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Poll

Please, select all the options you agree with

Absolute freedom of speech
10 (34.5%)
Prohibit porno
7 (24.1%)
Prohibit acts of religious, racial, sexual intolerance
5 (17.2%)
Prohibit insulting
0 (0%)
Prohibit offensive language
0 (0%)
Prohibit defaming and baseless accusations
3 (10.3%)
I don't care
1 (3.4%)
Prohibit obnoxious pictures
1 (3.4%)
Prohibit offtopic garbage
2 (6.9%)
This poll is not fair
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted 17

Forum: freedom vs censorship 4893  24

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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2014, 09:37:44 PM »
You know what, nobody gonna have to ban me because im borred of this game, this game is a pathetic joke with retard admins.

Im just losing my time here.

I just buy a 6 month membership on wow, maybe im gonna came back if i see this 2.02 client get close and have new admins.

Have fun guys.



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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2014, 05:22:01 AM »
I voted for absolute freedom of speech as long as it's legal and NSFW links are properly signed 18+ and tagged (for example surrounded by spoiler tags, so only visible when clicked)
accepted as a reguest to change the poll. To split porn to 2 questions:
1. porn as you with
2. porn as a safe link behind 18+ tag
right?
yep, absolutely, marked 18+ and tagged with
Spoiler
, you don't want to view it, you simply don't. Lol.

The other thing are large, obnoxious pictures, offtopic garbage (hi smurfking) and links leading to uncloseable stuff or viruses - i'd mod that too, but it's not an issue of pure 'freedom' i suppose, freedom is only one of the factors
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HOWEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, I am all for unification. This is the official forum of server.war2.ru, so the rules MUST MATCH. You cant have people throw shit at one another with no consequences and then punish people with bans when they extend it to chat lobby, makes no sense.
Agree for unification for near future, it could be possible it this poll will be effective.
But you offer for total freedom, to let people throw shit anywhere with no punishment to each other, right?
Well, at this point unification is more important to me than w/e the policy's gonna be. I know I am probably way more liberal than the next person, which is why the amount of 'absolute freedom' votes is suprising to me. That's my opinion but i'm not trying to enforce it, i'll adapt to whatever admins or the community want.


Oh, btw, seeing how blid is acting here, i really think he's mad and being a drama queen that he's no longer in power. It's suprising, but the only logical conclusion
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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2014, 07:20:21 AM »
yep, absolutely, marked 18+ and tagged with
Spoiler
, you don't want to view it, you simply don't. Lol.
i see, porno should be splitted in 2 parts as you say: porno inside message and 18+-protected link to porno.

The other thing are large, obnoxious pictures, offtopic garbage (hi smurfking) and links leading to uncloseable stuff or viruses - i'd mod that too, but it's not an issue of pure 'freedom' i suppose, freedom is only one of the factors
Accept, should be added to poll.

Well, at this point unification is more important to me than w/e the policy's gonna be.
Here's another problem: people playing on the server are quite different than people writing on the forum. But who cares? People has been announced about the forum, so w/e? Ok, let me think about that.
I know I am probably way more liberal than the next person, which is why the amount of 'absolute freedom' votes is suprising to me.
That effect could be reached by wrong formulation.
Interesting thing is i could use different words with the same sence while posting the poll, and they'd vote absolutely different.

But i don't care anymore. People have to make choice themselves. Let them insult themselves, call niggers or what they want if that makes them happy.
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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2014, 07:39:11 AM »
But i don't care anymore. People have to make choice themselves. Let them insult themselves, call niggers or what they want if that makes them happy.
that sounds reasonable, you dumb nigger!

haha j/k, no offense. Idk man, i just stated my opinion, you can't please everyone so just do what you and other admins think is best for the community. Unification is important for that very reason - to avoid confusion and having two different set of rules for the two parts of the same war2.ru project. And I willingly admit that Im far away on the 'freedom' spectrum and what *I* think is right wouldnt be right for *everyone* - the average joe.
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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2014, 01:24:52 PM »
Just stop the slander.

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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2014, 12:47:58 PM »

You know what, nobody gonna have to ban me because im borred of this game, this game is a pathetic joke with retard admins.

Im just losing my time here.

I just buy a 6 month membership on wow, maybe im gonna came back if i see this 2.02 client get close and have new admins.

Have fun guys.
Halle-fucking-llujah.

More important than censoring certain words or trying to force people to be peaceful and respectful at all times (impossible), the goal should be to prevent disruptions that interfere with people's ability to use the server and play wc2. That's the whole point, right? We're all standing on ceremony in the name of impartially and nonintervention while EQ runs rampant, and the result is that he became a huge ongoing disruption to the community -- harassing players on the server, inciting arguments, making literally dozens of semi-coherent posts of nothing but pointless insults on the forum, blatantly spamming the forum in the first place ffs, wasting bandwidth, wasting admin's time, wasting EVERYone's time. Obviously intervention was needed, and I think the fact that it went on for so long is a failing of our administration. Banning is a extreme solution and should be used wisely, but sitting back and doing nothing can be just as detrimental.

We might just have to accept that preventing insults, racism, etc is beyond our power, at least on the server, and that admins should stay out of personal arguments so long they aren't disruptive to the server in general.  (Players have the squelch command at their disposal in such situations.) An exception to that might be if someone singles out one player and deliberately seeks to ruin their gaming experience on an ongoing basis.

The forum should be more heavily moderated simply because we DO have the power to control it, and allowing unchecked flaming on a forum is just asking for trouble. This isn't the place for people to rant on and on about why they think of each other's mothers and religions and race, such posts contribute nothing and should be deleted on sight IMO.
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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2014, 01:12:56 PM »
I think a fair compromise would be to let people say what they want in the general discussion eg) flaming, racism, insults, etc but keep it out of the other forums.
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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2014, 01:47:02 PM »
damn mousey ... your ICQ is newb.


my ICQ is/was 10121774    8)
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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2014, 01:55:18 PM »
people still use that? I think I stopped using that back in 2000.
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Re: Forum: freedom vs censorship
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2014, 11:01:17 PM »
thing is blid sees/judges literally 90% of the threads as racist.


u ask me why, cuz hes a racist prick himself.