Author Topic: Tier 1-2-3 lists  (Read 38108 times)

Offline ~ToRa~

  • Server Admin
  • Death Knight
  • *****
  • Posts: 3492
  • The General
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2016, 09:03:11 PM »
Its not even about if its too much work. I'm very skeptical as to how many players would actually take an active roll in participating in something like this or reporting their wins and what not.
How about something like a month long tournament? For instance we could begin it on the 1st Sunday of every month. You guys can have 1 week to face your respective opponents. Here is an example of how the bracket would look,

http://challonge.com/Tier1ro1

After 1 week anyone that doesn't finish playing there opponent will either be moved up or auto Dq'ed 


Read the bold text EQ
war2 > war3

Offline Nox

  • Death Knight
  • *********
  • Posts: 4120
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2016, 09:04:30 PM »
Its not even about if its too much work. I'm very skeptical as to how many players would actually take an active roll in participating in something like this or reporting their wins and what not.
How about something like a month long tournament? For instance we could begin it on the 1st Sunday of every month. You guys can have 1 week to face your respective opponents. Here is an example of how the bracket would look,

http://challonge.com/Tier1ro1

After 1 week anyone that doesn't finish playing there opponent will either be moved up or auto Dq'ed 


Read the bold text EQ



Yeah and it look perfect without yamon, green agenda and swift add it to it.

Keep your lovely yamon if you really want, but swift need to be add in it.

And everything gonna be ok, winner win the legend status.

Do you know the song love is in the air?

I love this song.

Do you love it?

« Last Edit: September 26, 2016, 09:07:40 PM by Equinox2 »
Mr.120apm aka U8! Best player of the world losing 4v3 against Phillip5256.

Offline O4L

  • Ogre Mage
  • ********
  • Posts: 2041
    • View Profile
    • Warcraft 2 Server
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #77 on: September 26, 2016, 09:11:41 PM »
Spreading it out over that long of a period can lead to people on different timezones both saying they were waiting to play each other, and time is up, who advances?

I think it could end up pretty messy in that long of a period.

I have seen the Russian community pull off a successful one like that though a long time ago. So who knows, could try it, maybe with the cash incentive they would try to actually play their matches. 

Offline ~ToRa~

  • Server Admin
  • Death Knight
  • *****
  • Posts: 3492
  • The General
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2016, 09:26:29 PM »
Yeah I do think players will play each other if there are incentives. Could it fall flat of course.
But a lot players are complaining that they cant play in a single day tournament due to time constraints.
war2 > war3

Offline Sentinel1

  • Axe Thrower
  • ****
  • Posts: 265
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2016, 10:00:24 PM »
Extending the tournament over a certain amount of time seems like the best solution. 

For each tournament create a subforum.  Each round gets a thread.  Activity in the thread attempting to schedule the match can be used as evidence for forfeiture if the match hasnt been played by the allotted time.  Extending the tournament over time can also allow for longer series.

Offline Szwagier

  • Ogre Mage
  • ********
  • Posts: 1659
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #80 on: September 27, 2016, 06:32:43 AM »
1.problem is that few people in this list is not playing fe viruz but he still can own
2. problem is that lot of people  know well only one map fe lego
3. problem is that few people are better in diffrent maps fe spb on gow he is bad but on hsc he is good

U guys will never make "fair" tier list since we are playing most gow when this map is rlly inbalance.
In my opinion we should make tournaments with new maps, Tora can use generate map, it should be fair map http://www.warmaker.net and he will give to players 10 min before tour start to check map with editor


braviet is inactive right now, lot of ppl in this bracket arent checking this forum
« Last Edit: September 27, 2016, 06:42:45 AM by Szwagier »
http://www.youtube.com/user/SzwagierR


Equinox - the dumbest person in this game, do not argue with an idiot, because he will bring you to his level and overcome with experience

Offline Knitter

  • Grunt
  • ***
  • Posts: 242
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #81 on: September 27, 2016, 06:34:58 AM »
I really dont know why yamon got added to this. He didnt earn anything or proved anything by beating anyone good in series. I do not complain since im facing him and i know i got the easiest pick. ( just wondering why he got added )

Second of all i dont have internet at the moment. ( got no internet 2 weeks now ) some technical support is coming this week. Hopefully he can get my internet running again. Whenever i will return ( i hope this week) i will play yamon because brackets say so.
Only using my smartphone to check the forums at the moment.
Cheers Knitter

Offline mousEtopher

  • Administrator
  • Ogre Mage
  • *****
  • Posts: 2065
    • View Profile
    • War2.me
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #82 on: September 27, 2016, 07:46:04 AM »
U guys will never make "fair" tier list since we are playing most gow when this map is rlly inbalance.
In my opinion we should make tournaments with new maps, Tora can use generate map, it should be fair map http://www.warmaker.net and he will give to players 10 min before tour start to check map with editor

Really cool idea, +1 to something like this. Also lots of great kpuds & other maps that could be randomly selected as well.
squeak!

Offline d0ng3rdik

  • Grunt
  • ***
  • Posts: 52
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #83 on: September 27, 2016, 05:19:11 PM »
Here is where and how I believe Tiers should look:


This causes a bottleneck for a player to have to work harder to advance to the next tier

Tier 1:
Shotgun
Swazgier
Jesk
Viruz
00Steve
Startale
Alf
00Joe
Braviet
Foonat

Tier 2:
Knitterhemd
Player
00Logan
00Tony
Medivh
Yamon
Sepi
Mystical
Poscow
PB
Equinox
Teaboy
Tyrus
Tabac[Man]
JayHawkerz

Tier 3:
Donger
Koorb
SPB
Sparkz102
Ogremage
Jordan
Youngsta
TK
Dugs
ESN
YWFN
Slacher
Jynx
Harrywangs
Angel~Fire
$lick
Gleip~
Blid
Allstar
Max.X.OverKill


Let me know what you think, or should i say let the flaming begin!

What the fuck kind of list is this you dumb ape. I have crushing records vs tier3 and winning vs tier 1/2. Out of all the stupid shit I've seen on this forum this is what made me register. Good job you peruvian nigger and why am I on your list along with some others? I've played 2 months in the past 3-4 years.


 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=BHC-JesK&player2=RajonRondo  8-6
ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=D0NG3R&player2=
Medivh  4-2
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=SoH~D0NG3R&player2=Antti_Kiviniemi  3-0
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=D0NG3R&player2=SPB-  15-3
ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=RajonRondo&player2=MyStiCaL  2-1
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=Kunkka&player2=MyStiCaL  2-0
ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=Equinox&player2=RajonRondo  2-1
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=RajonRondo&player2=
Wargasm  2-0
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=RajonRondo&player2=^PaperBoy~SoL^  3-3
ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=Kunkka&player2=^PaperBoy~SoL^  2-0
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=RajonRondo&player2=ItS_HoT_In_HeRr  2-0
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=00STEVE&player2=RajonRondo  1-1
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=RajonRondo&player2=Knitterhemd  1-0
 ladder. war2. ru/record.php?player1=swift&player2=Kunkka  2-4 vs a hacker
 

« Last Edit: September 27, 2016, 05:31:45 PM by d0ng3rdik »

Offline Swift

  • Sappers
  • ******
  • Posts: 867
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #84 on: September 27, 2016, 05:41:10 PM »
Kunkka wasn't very good. I had to go especially light on him, and do B- moves.

I would recommend Tier 3.
The official Legend©®™ of Warcraft II.

Offline LuX

  • Grunt
  • ***
  • Posts: 142
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #85 on: September 27, 2016, 09:16:33 PM »
Good to see you too Nova. This list isnt anything set in stone and actually the more i think of it you would be a tier 2 player. I didnt know you had records like that vs those players.

Offline tk[as]

  • Server Admin
  • Dragon
  • *****
  • Posts: 5000
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #86 on: September 27, 2016, 09:55:10 PM »
this tier shit is a joke. different styles


not to mention 90% of the players mentioned in the tiers are more or less inactive/rustish. the tier system could literally change dramatically if all players spent 4-5 days playing solid war2.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2016, 09:58:15 PM by tk[as] »

Offline Swift

  • Sappers
  • ******
  • Posts: 867
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #87 on: September 27, 2016, 10:19:14 PM »
Good to see you too Nova. This list isnt anything set in stone and actually the more i think of it you would be a tier 2 player. I didnt know you had records like that vs those players.


He tried to trick everyone, by handpicking players he had winning records vs on certain names, meanwhile he often times had losing records vs those same players on different names.

Example, posted 8-6 vs jesk but in reality ladder seems to show it as 12-20 when you add in his other names.

http://ladder.war2.ru/record.php?player1=BHC-JesK&player2=D0NG3R 2-6
http://ladder.war2.ru/record.php?player1=BHC-JesK&player2=Kunkka 2-8

There's plenty of other examples of him doing that too, to some degree, I'm sure.

The official Legend©®™ of Warcraft II.

Offline ~ToRa~

  • Server Admin
  • Death Knight
  • *****
  • Posts: 3492
  • The General
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #88 on: September 28, 2016, 02:44:59 PM »
Here is my list,
Tier1
00kyle,
u8t3io3p
braviet
Shotgun
Startale
Alf-Attack
BHC-Jesk
Medivh
Viruz
00Joe
00Logan
Player
Knitterhemd
Sepi
00Steve

Tier2
tyrus
Yamon
Greenagenda
Mystical
Spb
ogremage
Mythical
-Koorb-
TWN-cancel
UNF0RG1VEN
Dugs[anz]
DoritoeFU
Allstar
$liCk
Ltfan
Tabac[Man]
Teaboy
^PaperBoy~SoL^
Ywfn
Sparkz102


Only real difference I see from everyones list from my own is the addition 00steve to tier 1. And maybe ywfn demoted to tier 3 and Soh~Donger to tier 2. Also a alot of players put foonat at tier 1. Anyone other additions anyone would like to add?
« Last Edit: September 28, 2016, 02:56:26 PM by ~ToRa~ »
war2 > war3

Offline Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

  • "The Architect"
  • Global Moderator
  • Dragon
  • *****
  • Posts: 5384
    • View Profile
Re: Tier 1-2-3 lists
« Reply #89 on: September 28, 2016, 04:04:48 PM »
greenagenda, spb, ogremage, twn-cancel, doritoe can play with those other tier 2s but arent really the same level.  cancel is like tier 4 tbh.  but if youre doing tourneys it should really be "tier 1" and "tier not 1"; don't need too many different levels for that...