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Re: Trump won and all I can think about is ^adam^
« on: November 22, 2016, 12:47:06 PM »
brainwashed dumbocrats advocating their own demise by supporting clinton, obama and the entire democratic party.

The left is saying trump will inherit a good economy.

And that's fine for people who are incapable of expanding their research beyond paid and bought for news outlets who want to enslave you for their benefit. But for realists who can care enough to look for the facts here they are.

The only reason obama won is because bush strayed far far away from republican values and principles. Nearly tripling the size of the federal government. These are the consequences of bush's actions in-directly with obama. And now trump will inherit a shit economy just like reagan did. And when reagan fixed it, people thought that clinton was responsible because they're uneducated.

"When bush left me the white house, it was clear we had big differences as well " - obama





just remember the elites operate on the fact that they know if there's a nuclear attack they're going to be half way to Australia before anyone even knows about it. What will you do?
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Re: Re: Trump won and all I can think about is ^adam^
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 12:57:32 PM »
How did Bush stray, economically, from Republican values?

I see those graphs and believe that's due to wealth being more and more concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, which stalls the velocity of money, and which is basic Republican monetary policy (which is bad).  Shit like Trump's corporate welfare infrastructure proposal is extremely inefficient versus standard state-sponsored programs which have vastly higher fiscal multipliers.  When the median family income is crashing and debt is through the roof you're saying we need to give less to people and give more tax breaks to the rich.  Yeah let's see how that works.  Look at your own graph, bottom left, workers' share of the economy crashing.  Ouch.  Trump and Republicans want to accelerate that crash with their proposals for the benefit of the CEO class.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2016, 01:01:49 PM »
How did Bush stray, economically, from Republican values?

I see those graphs and believe that's due to wealth being more and more concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, which stalls the velocity of money, and which is basic Republican monetary policy (which is bad).  Shit like Trump's corporate welfare infrastructure proposal is extremely inefficient versus standard state-sponsored programs which have vastly higher fiscal multipliers.  When the median family income is crashing and debt is through the roof you're saying we need to give less to people and give more tax breaks to the rich.  Yeah let's see how that works.  Look at your own graph, bottom left, workers' share of the economy crashing.  Ouch.  Trump and Republicans want to accelerate that crash with their proposals for the benefit of the CEO class.
that's bullshit. Tax cuts for the rich don't help anything. That's why bush's tax cuts were a joke. You have to cut taxes on lower and middle class for the economy to boom. Every single candidate has said they will do that since reagan, none has do so since reagan. That's why economists are advocating a non-politician to work on the economy, because it's clear they have no intention to fix it. In fact some are saying that it's intentional.
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Re: Re: Trump won and all I can think about is ^adam^
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2016, 01:03:26 PM »
The biggest beneficiaries of the Trump tax plan are by far the rich, though, correct?
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-promised-rich-would-pay-their-fair-share-his-tax-plan-would-make-them-much-wealthier-1591905
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Re: Re: Trump won and all I can think about is ^adam^
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2016, 01:06:21 PM »
77.7% of tax savings would go to the top 20% of people.



The bottom 40% get a combined 4.1% of the savings.  The bottom 60% reach a combined 10% of the savings.  The top 40% get the other 90%.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2016, 01:09:29 PM »
The biggest beneficiaries of the Trump tax plan are by far the rich, though, correct?
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-promised-rich-would-pay-their-fair-share-his-tax-plan-would-make-them-much-wealthier-1591905


i didn't hear anything about taxes in that video. But cutting taxes on the wealthy wouldn't hurt anything either if that was the case. As long as there is tax cuts in the middle and lower taxes on the wealthy are pretty irrelevant. This illusion of "greed" of the top 1-10% is just a narrative that is almost 100 years old to incite anger and division among common sense regulation so people don't know how anything works. And believe me, it's beyond effective. Hilary almost won.
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Re: Re: Trump won and all I can think about is ^adam^
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2016, 01:10:38 PM »
Look at the chart. Lol the top 1% get 71.5% of the savings.  Pretty much exactly the outcome one should expect from putting a billionaire Republican in charge.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2016, 01:18:22 PM »
Look at the chart. Lol the top 1% get 71.5% of the savings.  Pretty much exactly the outcome one should expect from putting a billionaire Republican in charge.

it's also true that the top 1-0.1% are the only ones with the power to create jobs and generate revenue. The only reason cutting taxes on middle and lower class is so that money can be spent on the 1-01% and return their investments, and money will circulate faster. If people have more money to spend on investment, then people will invest, creating more growth, more jobs, and a higher GPD. Pretty simple cause-and-effect type scenario. That's why "Income Inequality" is such a ludacris term. Because people don't get to the top percentile with an income. They get it by creating values for others. E.g. investment. And to say they're greedy because they won't invest, is also ridiculous because it's within their best interest to do. The only reason companies held onto their cash during the bush tax cuts, is because all those tax cuts were for was publicity, you also have to end regulation on the free market to make companies want to invest. Which he Increased regulation. Trump wants to deregulate, which is why apple and ford are moving some factories back to the U.S. Evidence of deregulation being effective is most blatantly obvious with Hong Kong's flourishing economy. Where all you need to do to start a business, is wait in line for 30 minutes to get a $1 permit.
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Re: Re: Trump won and all I can think about is ^adam^
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2016, 01:30:18 PM »
Economic freedom is retarded.
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Re: Re: Trump won and all I can think about is ^adam^
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2016, 01:32:02 PM »
Economic freedom is retarded.

lets take a look at the alternative

that's the results of Venezuela's socialist movement.

Lets take a look at imperial socialism. Soviet Russia.


where there is economic freedom:


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Re: Re: Trump won and all I can think about is ^adam^
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2016, 01:50:01 PM »
lets take a look at bangladesh, the sweatshop of global capitalism






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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2016, 01:58:36 PM »
Global capitalism is not capitalism. You think a country with sharia law can implement freedom correctly? It's a sideways argument. Just like china took steps in the right direction, they're still way behind the US. and hopefully Bangladesh will see their days of prosperity as they head in the right direction.
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2016, 02:03:26 PM »
Global capitalism is not capitalism. You think a country with sharia law can implement freedom correctly? It's a sideways argument. Just like china took steps in the right direction, they're still way behind the US. and hopefully Bangladesh will see their days of prosperity as they head in the right direction.
Bangledesh doesn't have shariah law. There president is a women, and 99% of Bengalis are as religious as Americans. In other words they don't care about religion.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2016, 02:04:08 PM »
Global capitalism is not capitalism.
Where do you think your clothes are made?  Check the tag.  If all our biggest garment and fashion companies weren't having their goods produced by slave labor in unsafe facilities, our prices would go up and ownership's profits would go down.  Therefore, they'll see to it that they always have a source of cheap labor... they'll hold back labor movements in Bangladesh and if the workers there were to get too empowered, they'd pick up the factories and go somewhere else. That is "economic freedom."
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2016, 02:07:48 PM »
Global capitalism is not capitalism. You think a country with sharia law can implement freedom correctly? It's a sideways argument. Just like china took steps in the right direction, they're still way behind the US. and hopefully Bangladesh will see their days of prosperity as they head in the right direction.
Bangledesh doesn't have shariah law. There president is a women, and 99% of Bengalis are as religious as Americans. In other words they don't care about religion.
Islam is the national religion of Bangladesh. They neighbor with the Islamic State. America is primarily Christian. And all of our rights from our founding fathers, that you enjoy Tora, are "alienable rights given to us by God". The constitution, that has protected America since it's inception, is a highly religious document. Because you are an atheist and have never read the Bible, doesn't mean everyone else is. Just remember the same people who you hate " the propaganda, the elites" are the same ones pushing religion out of our minds with each passing day. In my personal opinion, being an atheist is trendy and it actually has less logic to it than being religious.