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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2017, 12:43:29 PM »
on the other hand i was watching a game a few weeks ago where yamon was another watcher.  lone was 6 and i forget who he was playing was 11.  lone went through the middle while the other guy went through s9, lone was going to get raped and yamon said 'go back.'  i thought he was just "willing" or "wishing" him to since theyre friends, and lo and behold he went back inexplicably, able to arrive before the other guy ran into 6.
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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2017, 12:46:19 PM »
burnt.. whats your take on Lone/Yamon's relationship. please tell us.

is what sentinel saying legitimate or no?
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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2017, 01:48:40 PM »
I run in and out of my base all the time from open spots. I don't remember Yamon tipping me nor have I ever asked for it.

In the FOC game I knew Swift was exping because that's what he did in all our games and I saw his main base setup,  and his trainnie with peons in it. I didn't know if he had 2-3-4 exps nor have I cared because I was ahead and my flyers were about to scout the whole map which was happening just as Nedro made his comments. I had an army and was lusting. I didn't know if he was hold or not and it would not have mattered (I assumed he was closer in tech with 1 less exp). Suspicion played no role, he was losing so he refused to finish the game in order to keep spamming "10-0 Lone I am bored of 1sing you". After the past couple of days I highly doubt I'm wrong in this. Competitive mindset is one thing, but bullshitting like this is ridiculous, annoying and should not be continued.

On the other hand I did ask Swift to teach me smth cause I know even with help I stand no chance whatsoever from 6 vs ST, especially when I skip a night of sleep cause of working. Also ST played on his smurf so I didn't think it mattered. Swift coached me in the past, 2-3 years ago in a few real games and it helped a lot back then.

Sentinel what name do you play on?

Regarding Nedro, we had a few chats. A few days ago (don't remember vs who) he commented in all-chat and gave clear and valuable information in my opponent favor, so it's not the first time. I don't think it's a big deal. Nedro careful with messages. Swift we won't 1s unless I get good or I have a good mindset. I'm having a crap time recently in and out of wc2.
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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2017, 01:55:16 PM »
See guys.. it's not tipping. Just coaching.
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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2017, 01:56:08 PM »
Gonna log on in a bit and play some games. if someone wants to join the games, go AC with me, and coach me as to what my opponent is doing and how i should react I would greatly appreciate it. thx.
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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2017, 02:04:08 PM »
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Regarding Nedro, we had a few chats. A few days ago (don't remember vs who) he commented in all-chat and gave clear and valuable information in my opponent favor, so it's not the first time. I don't think it's a big deal. Nedro careful with messages.


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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2017, 02:24:35 PM »
Yeah I can't see Nedro doing anything like that on purpose,  and Lone/Nedro would be a odd tipping relationship. I don't see players asking that of someone without much history/friendship between the two.
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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2017, 02:55:39 PM »
You are a hypocrite. You are doing essentially the same thing you are proclaiming Tk useless for doing. I don't go around randomly accusing players of tipping and can't remember the last time I accused anyone. You are making unmerited accusations,and discrediting my reaction in a moment without even having been there. Bad  form, especially for an admin.

Nedros case was interesting, and anyone who played the game from my perspective would have been highly suspicious as well. A watcher Occassionally making comments like "he's holding" / "4 halls" is enough to raise eye brows. Those are not things one would typically say to watchers who have vision from all players. It is also suspect that no comments were made regarding Lone's base. So yeah, me reacting after reading a small handful of comments Like that is not uncalled for at all. Both watchers agreed the whole event was rather suspicious. One watcher also commented that my opponent seemed to being playing as if he was being tipped, and so of course this added to my suspicion as well.

The event can either be interpreted as cheating or a coincidence / very odd.  Nedro seems like a nice guy, and I haven't know him to do anything like this before so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.



Oh lighten up Francis, that was 90% a joke. I know of one instance only when you accused Yamon of tipping after he scored a nice win, so naturally I extrapolated that to 100% of your war2 career :D But yes, I do concede this is a different situation and suspicion seems highly justified. It's nice that Nedro has attempted to clear things up by sharing his side and we are all discussing things rationally.

tk is still useless
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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2017, 03:19:35 PM »
Swift we won't 1s unless I get good or I have a good mindset. I'm having a crap time recently in and out of wc2.

That's fine. I was definitely justified in feeling suspicious though.. If you think I did it to get out of a game I was more likely than not going to lose, then we'll just  add a win to your column and call it 10-2 :p

As I have been saying, on my end I assume you were playing fairly, and I assume it was just a rather odd coincidence on Nedro's end.

No hard feelings, you are a very good player and I don't mean to make your gaming experience unpleasant. I have a bad habit of taking the mental warfare aspect of the game too far vs good players like yourself.
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Re: Accused of tipping
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2017, 03:36:13 PM »
You are a hypocrite. You are doing essentially the same thing you are proclaiming Tk useless for doing. I don't go around randomly accusing players of tipping and can't remember the last time I accused anyone. You are making unmerited accusations,and discrediting my reaction in a moment without even having been there. Bad  form, especially for an admin.

Nedros case was interesting, and anyone who played the game from my perspective would have been highly suspicious as well. A watcher Occassionally making comments like "he's holding" / "4 halls" is enough to raise eye brows. Those are not things one would typically say to watchers who have vision from all players. It is also suspect that no comments were made regarding Lone's base. So yeah, me reacting after reading a small handful of comments Like that is not uncalled for at all. Both watchers agreed the whole event was rather suspicious. One watcher also commented that my opponent seemed to being playing as if he was being tipped, and so of course this added to my suspicion as well.

The event can either be interpreted as cheating or a coincidence / very odd.  Nedro seems like a nice guy, and I haven't know him to do anything like this before so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.



Oh lighten up Francis, that was 90% a joke. I know of one instance only when you accused Yamon of tipping after he scored a nice win, so naturally I extrapolated that to 100% of your war2 career :D But yes, I do concede this is a different situation and suspicion seems highly justified. It's nice that Nedro has attempted to clear things up by sharing his side and we are all discussing things rationally.

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i'm starting to think there might be something to this "burn school"  .. you're on fire today mousy!