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Theory of evolution
« on: May 01, 2017, 01:26:13 PM »
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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2017, 01:34:28 PM »
Well one of the speakers gave him the answer.

The change of "Kind" as the reporter wants it only happens gradually over huge time spans.
As a result we can only observe parts of the chain of evolution.

So a fish that became a mammal first did a huge amounts of changes to other fish until it slowly appeared as a mammal.

And that we can not directly observe it, as we are talking about great numbers of different species.
We can though observe and prove evolution at a smaller scale. And by Occam's razor the simplest theory that fits the model and proves the hypothesis is the most probable.

Thus statistically speaking, Evolution has a higher probability of being right than any other hypothesis or religion because more data fit on that hypothesis than on any other (for now).

Also scientists do not believe in Darwin's evolution theory. They have proved it in the small scale and they statistically argue that is the most probable theory for explaining the biodiversity of the planet.

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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2017, 02:29:34 PM »
Its still an unprovable theory that requires some level of "faith."

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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2017, 07:52:00 PM »
Every theory is unprovable because science never deals in absolutes, all scientific conclusions are theories based on observable evidence, correlations & probability, which are always subject to review & revision in the case of new information. A "belief" in any scientific theory indicates a high degree of confidence in the likelihood that it is true on the basis of collected evidence, even if it cannot be known with 100% certainty. "Faith" can be differentiated as belief in the absence of any evidence either for or against. This guy's point is semantical only & ignores or is unaware of basic tenets of science & the scientific method.
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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2017, 02:20:35 AM »
The scientific method clearly signals out "observations" in its steps.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

Now I ask you please give me an example of observable evidence of darwinian evolution.
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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 11:09:04 AM »
The scientific method clearly signals out "observations" in its steps.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

Now I ask you please give me an example of observable evidence of darwinian evolution.


Lol, even in the video they speakers gave plenty of observed examples for the Evolution Theory. You can choose to ignore the examples to the premises that no fish grew legs in one generation mutation.
But it is an observable fact that species evolve.

I think the easiest way to help you understand the mistake of the reporter is the human tail!

Do you know that we used to have a full tail? Have a look here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_vestigiality)
All those characteristics are evidence of evolution.
That we can not find the full chain from a fish to human it does not refute it.
And based with the evidence we currently have it is still the most probable theory!

And of course there is a probability that it is wrong. But faith has nothing to do with it.
If someone suggests a more probable theory and gives the appropriate observations, then the scientific world will adopt it.

It is exactly the same with the big bang theory.
We have observations that indicate the big bang theory.
And under those premises the most probable theory is the big bang theory.
Another theory could be this:

But which is more probable?

Some questions, science answers them with a confidence! Over time by collecting more observations and performing more experiments we can increase or decrease that confidence.
But in practice we can never reach a 100% confidence.

Faith comes with a 0% confidence and 100% belief
When for something we have no evidence, we say we believe it is like that!
Having 0 evidence does not necessarily makes the belief wrong.
For example: We have no evidence that Heaven or Hell exist. Some people believe at the existence of heaven and hell, while others do not.
Statistically, speaking we have no indication of who is right. In terms of quantum physics it is a 50%-50% chance that the heaven & hell at the same time exist and do not exist.

Is now we could scientifically observe that a place exists (other than earth) that directly is affected by the death of humans then we would have an observation for the existence of heaven or hell. That would mean that the confidence of the hypothesis would increase by a chance!

lol, I enjoy this type of discussions!

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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 07:06:27 PM »
faith and believe, r the wrong words when talkin about evolution. those r the opposite/religious peoples words. forget those words when talkin about any science. when u say those words always the "enemies" catch it and use it. it is just the same as "nazi-card"
just to make ppl quiet. nazi! racist! u believe! u have faith!

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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2017, 10:16:38 AM »
oh dear.

why didn't they just respond with "google it?"

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-give-an-observable-evidence-in-regards-to-Darwinian-Evolution-not-adaptation-not-speciation-but-a-change-of-kinds

Its not observable because it the theory says it happened over 65 million years ago.
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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2017, 02:57:16 PM »
Probably not going to get involved in this as its the type of thing I wasted my time with ten years ago, but just wanted to pop in and say Tora you have zero understanding of evolution and you're dumb as shit.
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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2017, 07:40:48 PM »
^^Lol say you love me Azazal
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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2017, 12:49:17 PM »
why does the video have an isis flag watermark in the left corner
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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2017, 12:52:04 PM »
oh dear.

why didn't they just respond with "google it?"

https://www.quora.com/Can-you-give-an-observable-evidence-in-regards-to-Darwinian-Evolution-not-adaptation-not-speciation-but-a-change-of-kinds

Its not observable because it the theory says it happened over 65 million years ago.


does vestigiality exist? is your tailbone a byproduct of evolution or not?
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Re: Theory of evolution
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2017, 10:18:36 PM »
does vestigiality exist? is your tailbone a byproduct of evolution or not?

So what, your saying human evolved from fish?