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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2017, 11:43:57 AM »
in the first source it basically said that cuba doesnt have official crime stats, but i wanted to use REASON and FACTS in the debate and dug further
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2017, 11:45:41 AM »
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2017, 12:04:40 PM »
yet they do frequently kill innocent people
police are definitely killing black people disproportional to any other race (black defense movements like black panthers and blm didn't come out of a vacuum). but more importantly black people are more likely to get convicted than a white person who both have same criminal charges.

Can you post some actual government statistics that show African Americans being killed at a disproportionately higher rate than other races.   
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2017, 12:06:00 PM »
capitalism exploits and neglects people and doesnt care, thats how capitalism works, it's not how race works but you might be able to guess why this would work out poorly for black people in a racist nation with a racist history of slavery and discrimination


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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #64 on: August 18, 2017, 12:11:14 PM »
yes...

here's a link to peruse.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4672939/

 Its data indicate that, as of October 6, 2015, 886 people in the US have been killed by the police since the year’s start (217 black, of whom 64, or 30%, were unarmed
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #65 on: August 18, 2017, 12:19:20 PM »
yes...

here's a link to peruse.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4672939/

 Its data indicate that, as of October 6, 2015, 886 people in the US have been killed by the police since the year’s start (217 black, of whom 64, or 30%, were unarmed

If you look in the 2nd point of summaries you will see this

-Although deaths of police officers are well documented, no reliable official US data exist on the number of persons killed by the police, in part because of long-standing and well-documented resistance of police departments to making these data public.-

There are no reliable statistics of deaths on "Arrest Related Deaths" based on race.
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2017, 12:28:13 PM »
yea why? because police departments aren't willing to release information regarding their murders. shocking.
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #67 on: August 18, 2017, 12:33:20 PM »
yet they do frequently kill innocent people

police are definitely killing black people disproportional to any other race (black defense movements like black panthers and blm didn't come out of a vacuum). but more importantly black people are more likely to get convicted than a white person who both have same criminal charges.


Can you post some actual government statistics that show African Americans being killed at a disproportionately higher rate than other races.   

dont be a dweeb, innocent people have been shot without reason and the perpetrators have been acquitted.  philando castille, terence crutcher, eric garner, etc, in all these cases the killer was acquitted or charges werent brought.  dont try to lecture those who cry out at injustice.  it's on tape half the time (otherwise theyd lie about it, they always try).  before black lives matter it was even more routine

capitalism exploits and neglects people and doesnt care, thats how capitalism works, it's not how race works but you might be able to guess why this would work out poorly for black people in a racist nation with a racist history of slavery and discrimination


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGooHl2R_Y8


lol nobody is gonna watch these youtubes, just write some words if you have something to say
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #68 on: August 18, 2017, 01:07:28 PM »
yea why? because police departments aren't willing to release information regarding their murders. shocking.

lol ok.

This thread has to be the biggest troll ever.
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #69 on: August 18, 2017, 01:08:46 PM »
what the fuck are you talking about retard? don't get into these conversations if you can't argue anything.
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #70 on: August 18, 2017, 01:14:38 PM »
yea why? because police departments aren't willing to release information regarding their murders. shocking.

You can't make blanket accusations without evidence.
There may be instances of police departments withholding evidences but in most cases police departments do release all information.
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #71 on: August 18, 2017, 01:15:29 PM »
ont be a dweeb, innocent people have been shot without reason and the perpetrators have been acquitted.  philando castille, terence crutcher, eric garner, etc, in all these cases the killer was acquitted or charges werent brought.  dont try to lecture those who cry out at injustice.  it's on tape half the time (otherwise theyd lie about it, they always try).  before black lives matter it was even more routine

The number one killer of American Americans are African Americans themselves.
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #72 on: August 18, 2017, 01:17:15 PM »
yea why? because police departments aren't willing to release information regarding their murders. shocking.

You can't make blanket accusations without evidence.
There may be instances of police departments withholding evidences but in most cases police departments do release all information.


they release information readily when one of their officers dies, not when they're responsible for the death of others. what does that tell you?
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #73 on: August 18, 2017, 01:19:14 PM »
ont be a dweeb, innocent people have been shot without reason and the perpetrators have been acquitted.  philando castille, terence crutcher, eric garner, etc, in all these cases the killer was acquitted or charges werent brought.  dont try to lecture those who cry out at injustice.  it's on tape half the time (otherwise theyd lie about it, they always try).  before black lives matter it was even more routine

The number one killer of American Americans are African Americans themselves.
okay and we've already talked about why that might be, maybe we should fix that capitalism and oppression and racism stuff instead of blaming the people suffering the consequences

have you ever been to any of these abandoned areas, wastelands full of boarded up and crumbling rowhomes, the utter desolation festering there right in the middle of these cities?
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Re: the mystery of violence in baltimore
« Reply #74 on: August 18, 2017, 01:23:41 PM »
they release information readily when one of their officers dies, not when they're responsible for the death of others. what does that tell you?

There is no evidence to suggest that police have killed a disproportionately higher number of African Americans as opposed to other races.(White, Hispanic, Asian, etc.)
What you are doing is speculation.