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Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« on: September 28, 2017, 02:14:32 AM »
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2017, 06:52:48 AM »
sounds like a lot of people who aren't porn stars -- unfulfilled, depressed, isolated, doesn't know why they're here, uses intoxicants to cope. anti-sex religious morality is a terrible thing imo.
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 09:48:43 AM »
The notion that religious morality, specifically Biblical morality, is anti-sex is absurd.

Sex is designed for reproduction. Barring this process through physical or chemical methods is anti-sex. Those who block out the creative process of full natural sex, as is typical of couples not in committed long-term relationships, are the ones who are afraid of nature.

Sex is designed to be intimate and pleasurable. Those who love each other experience more intimacy and pleasure in sex. (here are the findings of one study https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/08/140819125944.htm)
Those who want to separate sex from love experience less pleasure, thus if anyone is anti-sex, it's the anti-pleasure crowd.

Sex is designed to bond a husband and wife together and strengthen and build the relationship. The hormone oxytocin in women and men and vasopressin in men, serve to bond a couple together in such a way that they are physically and emotionally going to desire exclusively the romantic partner and be uninterested in other members of the opposite sex. We can't deny the scientific facts that are revealed by studying our biology and behaviour patterns. Thus if anyone is anti-sex, it's the anti-bonding crowd.

https://www.thetrumpet.com/7750-the-emotional-corrosion-of-casual-sex

And here we are talking about casual sex that is unpaid and unprofessional, as opposed to being part of a job where girls as young as 18 are pressured into acts they don't want to do, such as anal penetration with sharp objects, and with people they don't want to do them with, such as men with syphilis that they find personally repulsive.

Over 60% of women in the sex work industry have symptoms of PTSD.
The average life expectancy for these girls is 50 years, over 20 years less than average for all women.
70-95% of prostitutes experience physical assault.
60-75% of prostitutes are raped while working as a prostitute.
95% of prostitutes experience sexual harassment that in other industries would result in legal action
Prostitutes are raped 8-10 times a year
(From www.prostitutionresearch.com)

That does not sound like a glorious lifestyle to me.

I think being treated with love and respect sounds a lot nicer than being treated like an object.
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 11:59:55 AM »
sounds like a lot of people who aren't porn stars -- unfulfilled, depressed, isolated, doesn't know why they're here, uses intoxicants to cope. anti-sex religious morality is a terrible thing imo.

Maybe both mass market pornography, which treats women as disposable commodities to be used and thrown away in service to men, and anti-sex religious morality, which treats women as permanent bio-assets to be used in perpetuity by men and kept in a state of submission to patriarchal authority, are bad.
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2017, 03:45:54 PM »
The truth lies in the middle: legalize porn stars, criminalize selling or viewing porn.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 05:15:33 PM »
Maybe both mass market pornography, which treats women as disposable commodities to be used and thrown away in service to men, and anti-sex religious morality, which treats women as permanent bio-assets to be used in perpetuity by men and kept in a state of submission to patriarchal authority, are bad.

I already dismantled the absurd notion of God who invented sex being opposed to His own invention. See above.

Calling a married woman a "bio-asset" is highly ignorant.

Ephesians 5:25 reads,

"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her."

God calls husbands to love their wives self-sacrificially, even be willing to die for her as Christ was for us all.

No one will die for their property.

Normal, healthy parents both love their children, so it isn't reasonable to consider a wife a "bio-asset" since he is not the only one who is happy to bring about children. They both work together as a team to bring up children.

Yes, wives are called to submit to their husbands. This may bring to mind forced tyranny or servitude, rather than the graceful, willing spirit of surrender that is a gift a woman naturally wants to give to a man she loves when she feels he loves her.

Someone has to be in charge of every country, sports team, business, group, internet forum, and family.

God gave the job to the man. In my opinion, men have the harder job. Leadership that puts the needs of others first, which is true leadership, which requires hard work and courage and self-discipline, is an absolutely beautiful, admirable sight to behold.

Submitting to a loving leader is a woman's great joy and pleasure. I don't know of many greater feelings in the world than the feeling of submission and surrender in response to a worthy man's devoted love. You feel like you'd do absolutely anything for him.

Of course, we as sinful people mess it up. Men fail to love as they should. Women fail to submit as they should. It's harder to love a woman who has become hostile upon feeling unloved. It's harder to submit to a man when he seems unloving and indifferent.

God's grace and mercy is there for all of us. We find forgiveness in Jesus Christ for everything we've ever done against God and other human beings.

God can bring healing to the broken and restore us when hope seems lost.

God is good!




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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2017, 06:20:58 PM »
Maybe both mass market pornography, which treats women as disposable commodities to be used and thrown away in service to men, and anti-sex religious morality, which treats women as permanent bio-assets to be used in perpetuity by men and kept in a state of submission to patriarchal authority, are bad.

I already dismantled the absurd notion of God who invented sex being opposed to His own invention. See above.

Calling a married woman a "bio-asset" is highly ignorant.

Ephesians 5:25 reads,

"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her."

God calls husbands to love their wives self-sacrificially, even be willing to die for her as Christ was for us all.

No one will die for their property.

Normal, healthy parents both love their children, so it isn't reasonable to consider a wife a "bio-asset" since he is not the only one who is happy to bring about children. They both work together as a team to bring up children.

Yes, wives are called to submit to their husbands. This may bring to mind forced tyranny or servitude, rather than the graceful, willing spirit of surrender that is a gift a woman naturally wants to give to a man she loves when she feels he loves her.

Someone has to be in charge of every country, sports team, business, group, internet forum, and family.

God gave the job to the man. In my opinion, men have the harder job. Leadership that puts the needs of others first, which is true leadership, which requires hard work and courage and self-discipline, is an absolutely beautiful, admirable sight to behold.

Submitting to a loving leader is a woman's great joy and pleasure. I don't know of many greater feelings in the world than the feeling of submission and surrender in response to a worthy man's devoted love. You feel like you'd do absolutely anything for him.

Of course, we as sinful people mess it up. Men fail to love as they should. Women fail to submit as they should. It's harder to love a woman who has become hostile upon feeling unloved. It's harder to submit to a man when he seems unloving and indifferent.

God's grace and mercy is there for all of us. We find forgiveness in Jesus Christ for everything we've ever done against God and other human beings.

God can bring healing to the broken and restore us when hope seems lost.

God is good!






I disagree.
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 06:35:28 PM »
I agree with you both, but also disagree, as well.
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 07:45:05 PM »
I already dismantled the absurd notion of God who invented sex being opposed to His own invention. See above.


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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 09:45:08 PM »
sounds like a lot of people who aren't porn stars -- unfulfilled, depressed, isolated, doesn't know why they're here, uses intoxicants to cope. anti-sex religious morality is a terrible thing imo.

Maybe both mass market pornography, which treats women as disposable commodities to be used and thrown away in service to men, and anti-sex religious morality, which treats women as permanent bio-assets to be used in perpetuity by men and kept in a state of submission to patriarchal authority, are bad.
sure, we could draw that distinction ; porn is just one thing that's being implemented in a suboptimal way as a result of suboptimal capitalism, just like everything else.

I agree with you both, but also disagree, as well.
rofl classic blidism :thumbsup:

@bs i appreciate your effort to create a coherent and cited rebuttal, i'll put more effort into organizing & articulating my own response later on
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 07:08:32 AM »
sounds like a lot of people who aren't porn stars -- unfulfilled, depressed, isolated, doesn't know why they're here, uses intoxicants to cope. anti-sex religious morality is a terrible thing imo.

Maybe both mass market pornography, which treats women as disposable commodities to be used and thrown away in service to men, and anti-sex religious morality, which treats women as permanent bio-assets to be used in perpetuity by men and kept in a state of submission to patriarchal authority, are bad.
sure, we could draw that distinction ; porn is just one thing that's being implemented in a suboptimal way as a result of suboptimal capitalism, just like everything else.

It's not "suboptimal capitalism," it's capitalism working as intended. If pornography producers can make more money treating women badly than treating women well (assuming for the sake of argument mass market pornography is not inherently bad for the performers), why would they treat them well? The point of capitalism is to make a profit, not be a humanitarian, and this is reflected everywhere you look in a capitalist society. It's not an accident.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 07:27:53 AM »
Porn is bad for both the makers of it and the consumers of it.

Disease, depression, suicide, abuse, rape, drugs, ruined reputation, deterioration of personal relationships, difficulty forming normal loving romantic relationships of trust and respect, and inability to become aroused or enjoy sex with a romantic partner are among the ailments that afflict the performers. Sex wasn't meant to be public and it wasn't mesnt to be a performance. It is meant to be a private, loving act of shared intimacy between a husband and wife (featuring ideally love, respect, commitment, trust, readiness to take shared responsibility for offspring that may result from the union).

Inability to obtain or maintain an erection, inability to respond normally to a real live woman, dehumanizing women, increased feelings and thoughts of violence or aggression towars women, loss or damage of personal relationships (particularly the most intimate/meaningful/supportive relationship of girlfriend or wife who is likely to feel hurt and become less able to respond sexually to her man when she imagines what he's thinking of while touching her) are among the issues that afflict consumers.

If divorce and family breakdown follow, the innocent children will suffer too.
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2017, 08:38:17 PM »
good luck
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2017, 08:55:34 PM »
Disease, depression, suicide, abuse, rape, drugs, ruined reputation, deterioration of personal relationships, difficulty forming normal loving romantic relationships of trust and respect, and inability to become aroused or enjoy sex with a romantic partner are among the ailments that afflict the performers.


i'm tired of hearing about capitalism
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Re: Former Porn Star Shares Her Experience
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 09:25:01 AM »
Porn isn't like the end of the world but I think i agree with BabyShark that at least in the ubiquity of it and how every type of hardcore thing you can imagine is immediately at your fingertips, that it fucks with people's mental and sexual well-being.  I think there's actually studies confirming it.  And the porn industry is really abusive to women.