I have a little bit of time now, and it seems prudent to start with the most urgent and pressing concern you have raised, namely, my health, to ensure that everyone is safe:
I can see clearly that you are sick and you need help.
Can you describe the symptoms of illness that you see, and recommend which kind of doctor I may visit who may accurately diagnose me and provide remedy?
I do concede that I have had a cold lately, with a sore throat and a cough. Is that what you're referring to? If it is, I can assure you that this sickness is not life-threatening, and cannot be passed along over the internet.
You are just pathetic. You've had several hours to respond to my posts, yet all you could come up with was 'my health'!? And yet, you still managed to initiate several new threads as a decoy instead of addressing the real problem which you got yourself into and which don't want to deal with...
But since you mentioned it, you should know that the type of sickness you have is spiritual, not physical. You suffer from Islamophobia and everyone can see how you hallucinate that muslims are always trying to attack you or your religion. You convince yourself to believe that Islam is a religion of hate and oppression and use every opportunity you have to launch attacks on Islam. You keep on watching and posting videos of David Wood - who spreads lies about Muhammad and Islam with the most sarcastic smile on his face - and you have now become programmed to believe everything the guy says. Jesus Christ warned you against those types of people when he said:
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves." [Matthew 7:15]
Incidentally, in the same chapter, Jesus also warns you about judging others - in as much as you said the Qur'an teaches violence, not seeing that the Bible itself contains numerous verses teaching violence - so, Jesus Christ is telling you:
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
"For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
"How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." [Matthew 7:1-5]
Isn't it about time you overcome your irrational fears, get out of your coccoon and start thinking for yourself?
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Flaming is 100% disallowed in this section of the forum. Posters are encouraged to limit their posting here to substantive, conversationally ethical posts relevant to the topic of the thread & to express any disagreement they may have with any individual or stance in a coherent & respectful way. Other things which are highly discouraged & likely to result in punitive measures (determined on a case by case basis via the application of common sense) include: content that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, torturous, defamatory, vulgar, obscene*, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable or generally unlawful.*
The self-proclaimed Muslim trio of Tora, lightbringer, and Ze_saint have, instead of sticking to discussion, insisted on repeated and unfounded personal attacks:
You are just pathetic.
I can see clearly that you are sick and you need help.
The girl is retarded
Probably one of the many jobless/parent basement dweller/<insert favourite drug
here>abuser/living off government pity money/unemployed loser
You come tell me what you are worth. I bet pretty much nothing.
I have the freedom to address anything you post, or nothing at all. I am not legally obligated to engage with and spend time on people who insist on being rude and degrading.
This is a warning about personal attacks (such as "you are sick, you are retarded, you are worthless, you are pathetic") which contribute nothing to the topic at hand and are the type of actually offensive nonsense claims that betray your true intention here, which is to try to bully me into silence or to intimidate with numbers or to harass me, rather than pursue actual dialogue.
I have the right to not reply to you ever, if I so choose. That does not give you a license to spew discriminatory Christophobic hate.
This is a warning against personal attacks. A respectful apology would be nice, if you want to show that you value me as a human being (since I've been called worthless by the Muslims, although it's unclear if it was because I'm a woman or because I'm a Christian or because I'm a critic or because I live in North America...still waiting on the results of that one).
Stick to the topic, present evidence, attack opinions and beliefs, but personal attacks are not going to be tolerated in this section of the forum.
My reason for posting, my purpose in posting, is so that you and any other readers may come to know the truth of God and the love of God, that we see in Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for our sins and gives the only way of salvation to humankind. I pray for you 3 and a number of others. I don't hate you at all. I care about what happens to you. That's why I'm here.
What is your goal for me, from this interaction? What's your ideal outcome? Do you hope to turn me into a Muslim? What benefits does Islam offer, other than having to share your husband with 3 other women?
Any and every single one of Ze_Saint's issues can be easily addressed, but the problem is that even when he is presented with evidence, he refused to acknowledge it.
Ze_Saint view: The Bible does not say Jesus is God.
John 1:1-3, 14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
15 John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.’”
The evidence is clear, and plentiful. The Bible teaches that Jesus is God.
Whether you believe in the authority of God's Word and whether you believe what Jesus said is another matter.
But the Bible most certainly, without question, teaches that Jesus is God.
Regarding David Wood, tell me some "lies" that he has spread.
I've watched a number of his videos, and he is basically reading out of the Quran and hadiths.
It's very interesting that reading the Quran is considered "Islamophobic".
Islamophobia is a nonsense term used as a weapon to protect a bad religion from honest criticism. I say the religion is bad because violence against non-Muslims is bad and oppression of women is bad.
Together with "RACIST", they are used irrationally to silence any person who would investigate the religion of Islam.
So far, I have
1. Posted quotations from the Quran
2. Posted videos of Arab people speaking
3. Posted people reading the Quran and talking about what it says
4. Posted video evidence of Muslim activity
None of these things is racist. None of my concerns about Islam have anything to do with race. Those who say it does are desperately trying to find some smear label to stop people from open discussion and fact-finding. I am all for reading the Quran and finding out what it really says, and for listening to Arab people. and for looking at evidence, facts, statistics, studies, and listening to eyewitnesses.
I actually knew fairly little about Islam, other than the obvious common knowledge stuff like it was founded by some guy named Muhammad and that women live under a garbage bag-looking thing that must get really hot in the summer and have no rights, until Tora brought it up here:
And I started to do research and listen to Arab people and find out what the Quran teaches and find out what was going on in countries where thousands and thousands of Muslim immigrants were taken in and provided food and clothing and shelter.
What I learned was simply shocking. It opened my eyes to so much suffering and my heart goes out to these girls and women.
And the testimonies of Muslims that had become Christians were so moving and beautiful. That Jesus Christ's love had come to these people, both men and women, was the most beautiful thing I'd seen in a long time, and I started praying for Muslims and asked my church to start praying for Muslims again (as it had frequently in the past also).
The church body I'm a part of has actually helped sponsor Muslims coming to Canada:http://www.canadianlutheran.ca/refugee-sponsorship-demonstrates-christian-charity/
So the desire to attack and harm the person is a one-way thing. Christians do not want to hurt Muslims. Christians want to help Muslims and help them see the love of Jesus Christ, so they may be saved and have eternal life by faith in the perfect life and innocent death of Jesus Christ our Lord.