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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #75 on: August 07, 2018, 12:44:30 PM »
To be fair, I've seen enough creepy and weird behavior over the years that I wouldn't be surprised if female players are disproportionately harassed on the server at a greater level due entirely to their gender. That tends to happen in gaming and online communities generally, and War2 attracts people from both of those audiences.

Historically, I have been in the camp that it's best to just let vulgar/harassing/etc behavior go, because the alternative--to attempt to police that behavior--potentially sends us down a path where some admin might one day try to enforce their censorship views in ways that crosses lines way beyond just restriction of the most egregious behavior.

However lately, I've found myself wondering if maybe it's time to change a bit. War2 is now a game played primarily by adults, many of who are in their 30s and 40s and are (or at least should be) perfectly capable of managing their behavior responsibly. Society is also changing, with tolerance for this sort of behavior at an all time low, and while i personally think it's not right, there are certainly those that support not just holding people accountable for what they say, but also people who "could" or "should" have done something about it. All it takes is for someone to come along who cares more about taking a stand than the community and the game, and there's a potential for a lot of collateral damage even for those that have never uttered a single aggressive/negative thing.

We've taken strong positions on overt racism, at least on the forum, before. Perhaps it's time to take a closer look at that boundary, along with some other commonly excepted societal boundaries, like sexism, and establish some bare minimum expectations of decorum, with defined penalties, similar to our policies on hacking. It's understood that enforcement will be difficult since people can just create another account through a VPN, but that could all be spelled out in whatever artifact describes the expectations.

Ultimately it's basically impossible to stop someone from logging in to an open server and harassing a particular player if they really want to, but we could, at the very least, establish that the vast majority of the community and the admins do not condone it and will at least create a little bit of a barrier to the most egregious of behaviors.
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2018, 01:03:35 PM »
Thank you YWFN for saying something.

Van is lying through his teeth.

I ask the admins to please pull up the private message history between van and myself and/or chat room transcripts of his abusive behavior. I am willing to pay for the work involved in this.

I thought ignoring would eventually stop the problem, but it did not.

I have routinely been messaged "you're a fat ugly bitch/cunt", "you blow", and every other manner of intentionally inflammatory comment out of the blue on a level that no one else on the server faces, in private messages by someone I never talk to or play with for over a year, maybe even two. It's been going on for a really long time and I'm fed up.

I don't have a lot of ss's for the reason I mentioned previously, that I simply routinely used /ignore or /dnd over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

This is from a tail end of a recent one way monologue when I'd had enough and thought it was time to put a stop to it.



There was also similar hateful language used on the discord server recently but mousey erased the evidence.
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #77 on: August 07, 2018, 01:06:23 PM »
Dont feel bad babyshark, van says repeatedly that i have a big forehead, and my ginger children have no soul. I have returned the favor by saying that his daughter will be nailed by 17 black guys by the age of consent at 16.
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #78 on: August 07, 2018, 01:21:13 PM »
I have routinely been messaged "you're a fat ugly bitch/cunt", "you blow", and every other manner of intentionally inflammatory comment out of the blue

For what it's worth, Van has said those exact phrases to me many times over private messages while playing, watching games he's playing, or just sitting in chat. I just assume he does it universally.

Please know, I'm not saying necessarily that you aren't getting it worse, defending that sort of behavior, or saying that there aren't others that are harassing you in disproportionate ways. All I'm saying is, in van's case, it is definitely possible that it is actually consistent with how he treats everyone else.
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #79 on: August 07, 2018, 01:51:23 PM »
yeah i got cussed out when i threw a flame shield on one of his units,while back.
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #80 on: August 07, 2018, 06:44:29 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #81 on: August 07, 2018, 07:08:40 PM »
I guess it is time to say good bye!  Just uninstalled warcraft 2!  Best of luck with the server
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #82 on: August 07, 2018, 07:39:24 PM »
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #83 on: August 07, 2018, 07:40:42 PM »
now.. after Babyshark called my wife a prostitute earlier in this post, and is now banning me from games.. would a "Typical" (possibly not mature) response be to talk shit and harass her?
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« Reply #84 on: August 07, 2018, 07:53:57 PM »
or should i just contact her parents and let them know about her behavior
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #85 on: August 07, 2018, 08:52:20 PM »
How about this for a solution, I wouldn't normally say it but this has become a big enough fiasco that it's getting out of hand, and this seems like an easy enough solution:

van and leeroy don't whisper Babyshark ever again.  There's no reason they need to do that to hang out on the server and they can still flame other people or talk shit in chat

Babyshark doesn't whisper them ever and doesn't contact them on facebook and definitely doesn't contact their family members.

Would that be too hard for anyone?


Awesome. What a great plan :)

Everyone take 3 deep breaths and go back to playing the actual game .... which is fun right?




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I guess it is time to say good bye!  Just uninstalled warcraft 2!  Best of luck with the server

Damn buddy.... so your wife beat you pretty bad then? ;D

Seriously I'd try to talk you out of it if I wasn't sure you'll be back in 48 hours.

Does your mom count?

OMG! Zinger! ... Lambchops report to the burns unit ... oh my that put me in my place.

For anybody else who really thinks they need to say something to BS or any other female, ffs be a bit smart and don't make it sexually based rubbish. Even if you don't think it makes you look pathetic for going there (which it absolutely does), in today's cyber-PC climate there's a fair chance you could actually end up getting in real trouble if, heaven forbid, someone actually did make an issue of it with the authorities. If it did end up in court, you would all get lumped in with Lee and his tiny dick and some female judge would throw the book at you. I would hate to see that happen, so remember there are now actual specific laws which make this stuff definitely illegal in the US and elsewhere.

There would be no more room in jail if every guy went for saying something sexual to a woman, like "I wold love to plow you". "Down to fuck?". "Can you Cleveland steamer you?". Not illegal to proposition a woman for a Cincinatti Surprise, unless its for money,


Of course not. But that is quite different to continually harassing someone sexually after there are official complaints about the behavior on the record. There are definitely laws against it. Duh. What planet are you from?


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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #86 on: August 07, 2018, 09:08:01 PM »
Tk, I was provoked beyond belief. Spammed hateful garbage for over a year by van and leeroy, then mocked and harassed further by a lot of people that I've always been decent to including yourself for trying to get it to stop.

I'm sorry for the post I made when I was very angry. You treated me horribly for no reason to garner such a response out of me, but that isn't who I want to be. I will remove it.

I will remind you that you are one of the people I defended when other people were attacking you. I told them to stop being mean. I don't like to see anyone bullied.

I will leave you alone, you will leave me alone. I hope we are agreed.
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Re: Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam
« Reply #87 on: August 07, 2018, 09:55:34 PM »
nobody bullies me. i typically understand the reaction i will get when i say/do things, or at least do/say them interested in finding out what the reaction will be.

p.s. .. i dont care if u call my wife a prostitute... i know what she is and what she isnt. nobody else here can say the same.. so why get offended over things that are not only false, but things said by people who literally have no clue if they're true or not?

just empty words meant to get under my skin. just like the shit van says. or leeroy... i dont have it in me to be bothered by it.