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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2018, 08:52:56 AM »
damn i hope someone has these backed up
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2018, 08:55:29 AM »
alex jones made his fortune exploiting fears off mentally ill people.
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2018, 11:07:57 AM »
i dont love the idea of these massive social media companies like facebook and google deciding what can be shared and what cant (that should be decided by a revolutionary peoples tribunal) but alex jones threatens people and clearly violates the terms of service in addition to selling unhinged dangerous nonsense to the gullible and paranoid and schizophrenic.  fuck em
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2018, 06:08:25 PM »
i dont love the idea of these massive social media companies like facebook and google deciding what can be shared and what cant (that should be decided by a revolutionary peoples tribunal) but alex jones threatens people and clearly violates the terms of service in addition to selling unhinged dangerous nonsense to the gullible and paranoid and schizophrenic.  fuck em
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2018, 06:37:50 AM »
     This is essentially a modern day digital book burning. It’s very disconcerting when Big Tech assumes the role of the Thought Police, because the people can’t be trusted with information. Most people who listen to him know he’s performance art-entertainment intersperssed with political commentary. The vast majority of people are able to differentiate between a bogus satirical conspiracy theory and a sound political argument. The thing is a large segment of the MSM is derelict in their duty and are overly concerned with regurgitating partisan talking points, instead of actual hard hitting journalism. Media black outs, censorship and blatantly dishonest spin have become the new norms depending upon who we’re protecting or targeting. We live in a world of scandals and cover ups, where the IRS, DOJ and FBI target their political enemies. We still can’t see the Fully unredacted 9/11 report, JFK assassination or get a straight answer to the Vegas shootings. It’s understandable, why people seek answers even from someone outlandish in search of clarity. Most of what he utters is nonsense, but he occasionally touches on some valid points and when you throw enough speculation out there, some darts are bound to hit close to a nerve. It lends some credence that perhaps 1 of his theories struck a chord, which would explain the way they after him in such a drastic and coordinated effort in unison (10 tech companies). By making him a martyr, they have shot Info Wars app to number 3 in the App store.

   The more curious question becomes, what were the true intentions behind the ban? I reviewed some of his earlier suspensions and all he did was repost viral videos, that others had with out consequence and merely interjecting his own view point to the material. He has documented proof his accounts were in good standing before the purge and 1 of his last posts was people of all colors coming together in harmony to challenge radical ANTIFA in Portland, his position was it was devastating for their narrative and that’s the reason they NEVER bothered to provide a specific justification. There is no standard of consistency applied to other disreputable groups, like Farakhan, ANtifa, Holocaust Deniers. During Zuckberg’s testimony, he claimed it was supposedly a platform for “ALL VOICES”, where the dubious can easily be refuted by fact checkers and critical thinking. This is evident of a much larger pattern, where Big Tech continually targets libertarian and conservative ideas and thought leaders. Double Standards, shadow banning, search-feed filters, demonetization have been effectively utilized to the point where most people don’t realize they’re being told a lie or a 1/2 truth. You can’t effectively function in a modern economy, when you’re arbitrarily vanquished off the grid. Gun organizations being black balled by banks and payment platforms, Tommy Robinson banned for exposing pedofiles and Muslim extremists. This would be like a private gas company coming out and saying they will no longer sell gas to black people. Under certain state laws political affiliation is a protected class and is entitled to legal protection under the law. These Orwellian tactics definitely violate the spirit of the 1st amendment, which was once held sacred by the left. The supreme court has described Social media as the modern town square and they are correct & when you deplatform someone, they become essentially  irrelevant & invisible with in the public sphere.
Senate Democrats are now on record wanting to regulate all digital platforms, defining tech as essential facilities, designating price controls and monitoring citizens for radicalization, misinformation, fake identities, users will have the power to demand certain content be taken down and hold platforms liable that don’t abide. According to Dem senator Chris Murphy; this is just the beginning and we need companies to take down more sites, “the survival of our democracy depends on it”.

   Reagan was right when he said “If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism”.
It’s frightening to hear the left echo the sentiments of Stalin “Ideas are more powerful than guns, we wouldn’t let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas”.  Historically, monopolies always abused their power until they’re broken up or regulated so that might be the next step. Apparently, it doesn’t matter how many voices you silence as long as you stop Trump, Populism, restore net neutrality, access the Chinese markets and brain wash us a little closer to the precipice of socialism.

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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2018, 08:36:23 AM »
     This is essentially a modern day digital book burning.

i agree.
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2018, 08:47:54 AM »
"Reagan was right when he said “If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism”."

why would Reagan say that, he was a liberal.  ;D he also was a fascist tbh, same with alex jones.

of course americans still have a trouble time understanding what liberal means.
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2018, 08:59:36 AM »
Senate Democrats are now on record wanting to regulate all digital platforms, defining tech as essential facilities

But isn't this the only way to prevent the companies that own those digital platforms from doing the exact thing you're complaining about here?
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2018, 09:01:31 AM »
The Nazis burned ALL books except for their own published version of the truth. This is an entirely different thing and a quite normal action for a regulating body to take.

If a newspaper was publishing bomb-making and DIY suicide vest instructions they would be shut down. This source, it seems has also been deemed inappropriate - for whatever reason.

FB is bowing to massive public pressure. It cost them $120B before they did anything. They profit from controlling as much media as possible, including this well known site which they no doubt made millions from.

I have heard the infowars name, if its the guy I'm thinking of I have seen a couple of clips and he seems like an idiot but idk. If FB, or anyone else was shutting down ALL media from a given section of politics that would be a concern, but they will never do that.

They want EVERYONE using FB: republicans.. democrats... eskimos... native guys in grass huts. That's how they make mega-bucks.

The world market just gave them a $120 Billion kick in the nards for profiting by spreading garbage misinformation - they packed their trousers, paniced and banned the biggest pile of garbage they were making money from to try and look like the good guys.

The "book burning" rhetoric is exactly the sort of uninformed rubbish that shock-jocks make their money spreading.
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2018, 09:25:16 AM »
Senate Democrats are now on record wanting to regulate all digital platforms, defining tech as essential facilities

But isn't this the only way to prevent the companies that own those digital platforms from doing the exact thing you're complaining about here?

I can remember back in the '80 when they were desperatly trying to regulate the media in Australia.

One guy was buying up a massive amounts of media and controlling the information based on what made him the most money.

They introduced media ownership laws specifically to try and stop the monopoly. They failed - he just made too much money, owned too many companies and paid too many lawyers.

The guy's name was Rupert Murdoch and he went on to control a sizable portion of the world's public information.

State controlled media monopolies are bad but so are publicly owned media monopolies. The western world's media ... FB ... Murdoch... whatever else...  is not even properly regulated let alone state controlled.

If Murdoch - or some other guy - works out how to buy FB and google we are all in serious trouble. There wont be 'fake news' or 'real news' or 'your news' and 'my news' there will just be one story, which is the one story that the guy who owns it all wants to tell. The one that makes him the most money.

Media regulation continues to be an on-going battle. This is how it should be because the the worst possible outcome is having one entity controlling it all.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2018, 09:36:23 AM »
of course americans still have a trouble time understanding what liberal means.

Well somebody does  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2018, 09:45:38 AM »
of course americans still have a trouble time understanding what liberal means.

Well somebody does  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism



"The examples and perspective in this article may not represent a worldwide view of the subject"

nice link retard.
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2018, 09:51:31 AM »
fb price are dipping...soon as the big bore hits and catches fire everyone will quit and jump to another. everyone crash tom at myspace  ;D  :blank: seriously  >:(
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Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2018, 12:22:04 PM »
Reagan was a republican you dumb fuck