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Oldschool vs. Newschool

SPB Flower Tower
10 (90.9%)
{NaTe} Formation
1 (9.1%)

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SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« on: August 26, 2018, 03:18:59 AM »


Which goes down in the history books?
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2018, 03:37:29 AM »
what's the nate formation? spb flower tower is a legend tho.
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2018, 03:50:04 AM »
Ok so being the only people left playing means we can write the history books any way we want, but is anyone seriously going to try to assign intellectual property rights over blocking a ct with farms?

IDK about SPB or Nate - no doubt great players or whatever - but I was doing this kind of stuff 20 years ago playing customs and I don't really think it was original then.

This is a bit like trying to copyright a high-5... maybe you called it a "high-5" first, but im pretty sure a couple of neanderthals would have done it at some stage, even if they didn't post it on youtube ;)
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2018, 11:40:23 AM »
is nate formation the .gif thats shown?
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2018, 03:58:50 PM »
i wonder if its better to just use the "wall" and maybe double it  :o the "easy formation"  8)

flowertower seems most famous





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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2018, 08:54:41 PM »
cool gif! did you find or make that?
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2018, 10:32:49 PM »
That's the nate formation, its on battle.net website.

http://classic.battle.net/war2/gs/towers.shtml
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2018, 01:34:19 AM »
That's the nate formation, its on battle.net website.

http://classic.battle.net/war2/gs/towers.shtml


oh that's awesome! :D

is {Nate} USA-feature or someone else? Who is he? What a legend!
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2018, 03:32:40 AM »
oh shit everyone voted for the wrong dude  ;D
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2018, 04:02:13 PM »
That's the nate formation, its on battle.net website.

http://classic.battle.net/war2/gs/towers.shtml


oh that's awesome! :D

is {Nate} USA-feature or someone else? Who is he? What a legend!


Hes an old dude that played with Shlonglor and the likes on kali in the 90s.

flower tower is better because it reaches all the mining peons :P
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2018, 05:42:17 PM »
That's the nate formation, its on battle.net website.

http://classic.battle.net/war2/gs/towers.shtml


oh that's awesome! :D

is {Nate} USA-feature or someone else? Who is he? What a legend!


Hes an old dude that played with Shlonglor and the likes on kali in the 90s.

flower tower is better because it reaches all the mining peons :P


Haha I love that we have war2 historians here who know what's up. Thanks for enlightening me.
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2018, 04:35:35 PM »
There's another big difference too.  In the old days people would pstop unintentionally, put a cannon tower in their base, then send out their whole army to fuck some shit up.  Nowadays towers like spb's tower at 2 are there to assist his army when he's on his heels defending or to protect an exp in the late game macro stage so people can't just leave 5 ogres hitting the hall and move on to other stuff.
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2018, 05:41:28 PM »
Its an extremely inefficient way to defend peons in my opinion. Often it kills peons along with whatever units they send
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2018, 05:50:28 PM »
When I see an enemy with a flower tower.. I start to salivate because I know I'm about to have 2x as many peons as them
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Re: SPB Flower Tower or {NaTe} Formation?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2018, 06:02:38 PM »
Seems like you dont recognize its purpose, because like i just said, in the earlier stages it's meant to be backing up fighting units so someone can hold an attack off totally (ie not let grunts in their line at all with any luck, or if any get in there's defending grunts in the mix so peons arent getting attacked, and if any die to splash damage it's minimal). and in later stages, it's meant to prevent set-it-and-forget-it attacks, to keep the base from being flat wiped out without a full squad of ogres+dk.  They might get the peons but as long as the ct & hall hold, you've retained that expansion on the map, and can start pumping new peons, even if you didnt have enough ogres to hold off the attack and werent able to get more ogres up there quickly etc