how many times did I have to tell you that I wanted action taken against van
I didn't remember very well what was actually said last summer, but I found this:
Okay, so van has harassed you too. So why are you defending him? Or saying asking for it to stop is wrong?
only for you to keep making personal attacks against me
What personal attacks? Post it here please because I have no idea what "continued personal attacks" you're referring to from that time period (last summer). I never had an issue with you until you began inserting yourself into other situations going at me when I was in the same frustrated frame of mind any normal person would be in had they experienced what I had.
You literally made me side with van because of how shitty you really started to be, and the fact that I have to defend garbage like van speaks volumes to just how wrong you are going about everything.
Be more specific. Show posts or SS's or quotes or something so I have some clue what you're talking about regarding what I did against you last summer or prior to that. I really have no idea.
Yet anyone who has challenged you slightly is labeled a "hater", an "anti-babyshark toxic"
This is total nonsense. I have some 800 posts on this forum, many of them responding calmly and rationally to people who are calling for me and my kids to be killed.
A hater is someone who just shows up for no other purpose than to irritate, attack, inflame, annoy. I have a purpose with my posts that is for the good of the individuals and society in general reading them. Truth matters. I want people to be saved and go to heaven, and on earth I want society to be free, civil, courteous, stable, safe, and so on. I want children to be born to stable parents who love them. I want people to be able to live unmolested and so on. I want human good, human happiness. Humor or entertainment can be other purposes for posting and I have done some silly stuff too for sure. Show me evidence anywhere that I call someone a hater for merely challenging me if they are genuinely seeking the truth and not just make empty, unfounded attacks.
"Trying to kill warcraft 2" and the list goes on, look at maciek, all he asked was a question, which slightly somewhat challenged and you accused him of many things one of which includes trying to kill this game. You're trying to defame him, and you are a liar,
Maciek was not merely asking a question. He was telling whoever he was talking to (Tupac in this case) that he is not welcome here. If you can't see that, you can't read like a normal person and that's not something I can do anything about. If you think this is wrong, Maciek can easily clear up the misunderstanding by replying that "Tupac and BabyShark are welcome here because they haven't actually broken any rule we have here." There have already been several people calling for both Tupac and myself to be banned, not for breaking any written rule, but for playing W2 somewhere where people aren't spammed "you suck nigger dick" over and over, and perhaps myself for calling people out on things like harassment, power abuse, lies, and so on. People generally like to carry out their evil deeds unquestioned.
Herod put John the Baptist in prison for telling him he can't lawfully marry his living brother's wife, then later beheaded him. He didn't want someone telling him that adultery was wrong and was ready to kill an innocent person for it.
Like I said in my initial post, You are 2 faced and hypocritical, and these posts of yours in this thread alone are more then enough proof of that.
Hypocrite definition: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs (dictionary.com)
Name the belief I have and name the words or actions that contradict it.
I do not have a belief against calling out people on poor behavior or bullying.
Show me what lies you're talking about? You have yet to mention a single one.
And your response was to scare off your friends and attack them instead of the aggressors
Please be more specific. No clue what you're referring to here.
and then follow up with the aggressors family instead of the aggressor
If you have a better way to deal with long-term harassment in the absence of admins doing a thing about it, I'd like to learn it. If you think talking nicely to van and asking him to please stop would have any effect, you are not in touch with reality.
You've become dishonest within your next post numerous times now.
Show every example and be specific. You have yet to mention a single lie.
you've taken this to such an extreme level that you've just made him [van] the good one in all this. That is painful to say
Interesting you think someone who threatens to slash your throat is "the good one in all this". I have never threatened your or anyone else's physical safety in this forum (but yes, I've made jokes about biting off arms that are obviously jokes with people I am comfortable joking around with).
Since you value honest discussions and can be challenged without wanting to silence someone so much (all which have been lies to this point), can you please tell me where in God's word that lying for your own personal gain at anothers expense is a good thing? You have done this on the forums, you have done this in-game, and I don't care to know where else as that list is probably many. But please tell me what good Christians do this? You like bringing God up alot, so I will hold you to YOUR standard, (Not mine) as you believe that you are a Good Christian
The only people I have wanted to silence via W2 authority are people like van and LeeRoyJenkins (and others who behave like them) on account of their continual unprovoked attacks and harassment of myself and other users, creating a hostile atmosphere that new players generally want nothing to do with and even long-term players get fed up with their nonstop verbal diarrhea. They should have both been banned a long time ago in increasing increments with each violation.
I don't believe I am a "good Christian". I have never said that. I am a Christian because I acknowledge that I am a sinful and fallen human being, full of sin and evil, and needing saving. I need Jesus because I'm sinful, not because I think I'm good enough without Him. It's actually non-believers who think they are good enough without Jesus on their own who think they are good. Christians know we are sinful and need help. If you don't believe in the authority of God or the Bible, where do you think moral authority comes from? You accuse me of lying without evidence, implying you believe lying is wrong, but if we are an accidental chemical reaction and nothing more than particles in motion, how can *anything* ever be wrong? Your knowing lying is wrong shows that you know that God's standard of morality is the truth.
You are once again accusing me of lying. What lies? Be specific. If this is still about a 3 year old joke of someone just being silly a couple of times in game, that's pretty sad.
Have I ever lied? Of course. Who hasn't? I am generally a very honest person. If I accidentally take something from the store without paying, I return it when I notice or go back to pay for it. I'm not a perfect person nor have I ever claimed to be.
By silencing or branding everyone who would dare ask you a question without your permission?
Who did I silence lol? Maciek can talk all he wants. I never suggested he be muted or banned or silenced. I generally don't have a problem with Maciek, never have, don't know him, and I know his only problem with me is from Swift's smear campaign that clearly brainwashed a lot of people who never had an issue with me for years before it. I'm just tired of people like Tupac (who has done far more for the W2 community than most people with putting in hours of time and work and lots of money and giving newcomers tech help, including a friend I invited to play W2 for the first time some months ago) being told he should be banned or that he isn't welcome based on false accusations or the fact that he wants a better place to play W2 than the Russian server where there are no rules, yet people like DeathKnight~ and Tupac and myself are muted or banned without warning for breaking no rule and no evidence on false accusations.
That was only an example of how extreme you make every little thing and question, which you have proven is exactly how you react, I really don't know how obvious I could've made it by saying " ^^^ This is how ridiculous you sound", I said something absolutely ludicrous the same way you did, without a thought, without question, without checking anything simply to show you How absurd you look in your reactions to simple posts and questions. It was designed to be completely groundless and out of nowhere, ITS WHAT YOU ARE DOING and you need to see it in a different light
You lying against me saying I want to kill babies is not proof that I have lied, but proof you have. I'm still waiting for you to specify what "lies" I've told. Yes, 3 years ago I acted silly and said "IT'S SWIFT" in game, about you. I had no idea you would still be upset about it 3 years later. I am not sorry for being silly as it's part of who I am, but I am sorry that it affected you this way and I wouldn't do it with you again for that reason. I'm not out to make people sad, but to make them laugh. I think you and I just don't have compatible personalities, that's all. I'm fine with leaving you alone like I have for the past 3 years, but if you show up to criticize or attack me or falsely accuse me, don't call any response "unprovoked". I am often responding to people who are calling to have me killed, and I'm the one being told I'm "extreme" lol. Your bias is showing.
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Also kind of makes it clear that all your attacks are just venting your personal frustration and nonsense accusations for undeterminable reasons at some random person online with whom you don't agree ideologically.
YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY THIS TO EVERYBODY, EVEN YOUR OWN FRIENDS, that is the point you are too blinded by your rage at van, leeroyjenkins and dugs to see, YOU ARE DOING THIS, I am showing you what you are doing in another form and how you drive people away from you even if you were right in the van/leeroy instance initially
Give me examples. Show me. Cuz I don't follow. I am generally not a ragey person, but anyone can be pushed over the limit when people go too far.
Van and LeeRoyJenkins are cancers to W2 and should have been banned. It would be my hope that "discipline" would help them stop their bad behavior and that they would start acting like decent human beings. Unlikely.
Dugs I have always liked. Enjoyed carrying him in games:
Dugs made a mistake. Dugs is a generally nice guy that I still like who made some bad decisions (like siding against the American standard "innocent until proven guilty" with Tupac (without which, all accused of anything by anyone are automatically guilty without evidence), banning the innocent nice guy DeathKnight~, and calling to have me banned for questioning him or challenging him to 1s, not sure which).
He invited smack-talk. He likes it. Dugs made an apology for DeathKnight's wrongful ban, a step in the right direction. I just want him to not ban innocent people. Then he showed how truly un-sorry he was by calling for me to be banned for not breaking ru's nearly non-existent code of conduct, while making sure everyone knows that he is a very important person and should not have to deal with newbs and waster individuals with his important time. I'd like for him to offer a genuine apology, not ban any more innocent people, but ban the guilty racist harassers like van and LeeRoy who make the Russian server a crappy place to play. And I'd like for him to 1s me in a 10 game 10 maps series of maps he can pick himself. He's called me newb enough times that I'd like to challenge him to game. Nothing wrong with that. People do it all the time. Reminder: he said there's no such thing as shit-talk gone too far. So you can't hold anything I do or say to Dugs against me since the invitation was there. It is not rage, it's done in good humor while still standing by my position that people shouldn't be banned from W2 if they haven't been shown to have broken the code of conduct (like Tupac, myself, and DeathKnight~) and should be banned if they have (like van and LeeRoy).
Lol, "Now that i know you've very sensitve to it, i wont do it again, you still hate me for no reason though", Realize the failure to admit any fault in your behavior or even attempt to apologize? I don't dislike you for the stuff you did 3 years ago, it was entertaining for a while actually.
So you're admitting my joking about your smurf name being Swift 3 years ago was "entertaining" yet you are accusing me of wrong-doing? I'm not sorry for my personality or silly side or joking, but I am sorry that my silly side affected you in a negative manner. Like I said, I won't do it again.
You slowly became the bully. That is the problem. And you've known me long enough to know that I will go after them if they try anything with me. And don't you twist it. YOU DID just that, not anywhere near the level of other people like van, equinox or whoever have done with me, which is why I've been more lenient with you. But you still did it. And you keep avoiding the fact that you did it by trying to turn it into something that it's not and making it worse.
I don't know you very well, actually. Give examples so I know what you're talking about. What exactly is the thing you're referring to when you say "you did it". Did what??
I don't mind if someone sees me as a "bully" of bullies, someone who will stand up to people who go around provoking and attacking or banning people for no reason.
But bring forward ONE single person with whom I initiated a problem with by going after them with rudeness for no reason. Ie. "Hey man, you're ugly!" to a random person. Good luck. If I'm provoked, I can get feisty like anyone else, as I am a normal human being and not a robot.
Don't blame humanity and a sinful world for what you did. The world is shitty yes, but the world didn't make you act the way you did to your friends. That minuscule part of humanity was all you. No one else.
"What I did"...which was??? What friends?? Be specific. Don't say "dishonesty, lying, hypocrisy" without giving evidence. Provide concrete examples cuz so far you have zero.
I have not heard of this, but do you guys have some proof of this?
I asked Xurnt if he did it and he didn't respond, which to me is an admission of guilt. If he could have honestly said "No, I didn't do it.", he would have. He messaged Tupac in a threatening manner the same day as the phone call that he had Tupac's personal information. He also has a criminal history, so it wouldn't be too surprising.
Any person who hadn't done this would quickly respond that they hadn't done it. No response in 3 months. Calling people's employers in order to try to lie against them to have them fired is deranged behavior.
Your paranoia is what caused our issue to begin with. And the fact that you keep having to brand me as some hateful for no reason beast like an infant after every post is more then enough proof of that. Just stop, look, and listen. Then think. It will become clear.
paranoia definition: 1. an extreme and unreasonable feeling that other people do not like you or are going to harm or criticize you (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/paranoia
I am not paranoid. Everything I'm saying has happened actually has. Honest constructive criticism intended to be helpful is fine. Just saying KILL! BAN! NAZI! RACIST! SLUT! MENTALLY ILL! PHOBE! LIAR! HYPOCRITE! EVIL! BULLY! in the absence of truth and real evidence of anything while trying to persuade anyone you're on the side of truth and compassion is being the hypocrite/evil/bully/liar that the accuser is accusing someone else of being.
I know plenty of people (basically most of the nice, normal, rational, friendly people) like me and we get along just fine. Check out my W2 streams to see the different atmosphere on the American server and how people just want to have fun and play a nice game without all the bullcrap the Russian server has going on.http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB-8vOiFP6WfBHhYBbcPKFg/videos
I don't initiate or create problems. Other people do. I just happen to not be a pushover who is going to run away from bullies. I make mistakes and when I do, I own them and apologize if I hurt people who didn't deserve it. (And being offended by the truth does not count as "hurt".)
So far, you have accused me of lying, hypocrisy, and being a bully with no evidence.
A bully is someone who goes after a person who is weaker or has a less powerful position - the people I stand up to are generally not in these categories, and initiate the bullying which I am simply trying to stop.
If you don't want to be called out by me, don't make groundless, intentionally provocative attacks, don't falsely accuse without evidence.
If you have a problem with something I say or do, be specific and provide evidence and examples.
Like when you say I "continued to attack you unprovoked for no reason", bring the evidence. I don't believe I ever attacked you unprovoked in my life.
Again, writing long essays like this is time-consuming and tedious, and if you just write another post filled with false accusations with no evidence mainly linked to other people who are perfectly fit to defend themselves should they feel the need, I'm not sure I want to take the time to write to someone who isn't really interested in a coherent discussion and is just bored and frustrated and throwing around wild unfounded accusations.