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Re: New features
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2019, 08:29:20 PM »
You're being petty and narrow-minded, maciek.

Some of us are actually interested in the long term success of this game.

What has been done with the Russian server by the 15 or so people in control of it who want to foster an atmosphere that is unwelcoming to women, children, old people, black people, Christians, and all new players is robbing Warcraft 2 and the people who love it of a future with the best game ever made.

No one has done anything to you. What is your agenda? What's your plan/mission/purpose?

People should be able to enjoy W2 and life in general regardless of their age/gender/color/skill level, and that's part of our purpose: to collect the rejects and undesirables who are not welcome to play at the Russian server. The people you guys ban from every game and tell to kill themselves and uninstall W2.

You don't own W2. None of us do. Blizzard created and gave us the game. So for you to say people are not welcome to invite even the rejects of ru to play W2 elsewhere is just showing yet again what's wrong with the snobby and self-absorbed ru players who can't think farther into the future than the current game.

Warcraft 2 sold 3 million copies. It was one of the most popular games of its time. The play value is still there. There is no reason W2 doesn't have 100 or more players a night other than gross mismanagement and pushing out all new players. There have been MANY. I've talked and gamed with more new players than I can count in the last few years.

They all say the same thing. It's toxic and they get banned repeatedly. Aren't allowed to play. Are insulted and pushed out.

You want to kill W2. That's not a bright move for someone who enjoys the game.

Everyone who cares about W2 should welcome new players and care about the future of W2 and how the community is run.

You can be the kid at the playground who draws a chalk circle around yourself, says no one is allowed in your circle, bites anyone who comes close, and then complains about why no one wants to be in your circle.

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Re: New features
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2019, 09:48:56 PM »
That's your opinion. Plenty of people play on my server.
so ask those people on your own forum??????
You have now been added also.
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Re: New features
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2019, 10:04:09 PM »
I think some of the haters at ru can be rehabilitated when removed from the cess pool.

A little kindness, patience, forgiveness in all directions can be a tremendous start in reaching peaceful co-existence among humankind.

But ofc the bad behaviors have to stop. Banning and muting "powerless" people with no warning for no reason, pushing out/banning all new players from games, racist filth, sexual and sexist filth, long-term harassment of targetted individuals, death threats, and the like.
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Re: New features
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2019, 01:25:17 AM »
just a non-toxic thread here guys
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Re: New features
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2019, 02:00:15 AM »
Ability to watch without being in game taking up a spot.




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Yes, that's a feature I'll check into this weekend. I can currently make the user stay in game without unit/building. I wasn't able to make an extra slot yet.



I was able to hide from a slot and start the game before the host does. But it would bug out and drop some people when they joined. It's a work in progress.

That would be sweet!



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I have had ideas about this also. The problem is that it would be simultaneously an awesome mod that would be uber kewl AND the worst thing ever...  ... because it's a map hack.

If you can have unlimited watchers, there's nothing to stop someone from having a "watching" account from a laptop sitting next to them while they play .... and then it's just a map hack.

It's a tricky one ???




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Re: New features
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2019, 04:30:54 AM »
I like how you leave unwelcoming to gay people and muslims in your speech babyshark, Seeing as how you've attacked those 2 types of people in your posts on these forums. Funny how the toxic server is more welcoming to those types of people then you are.

You also went after a mans wife who doesn't even play warcraft 2 and got in contact with them. You're really in no position to be talking about "threats" that dugs supposedly makes to noobs.

I've never had a problem with Tupac, I never played with him much but I can still say i like him more then most people on here,  you on the other hand are very 2-faced and hypocritical.

Also this is hilarious

so ask those people on your own forum?

You want to kill W2


Gotta love the deductive reasoning in that.. "hmm he asked me a question , how dare he, he must want the game to die!!!!"

Remember when you used to join all games I was in and tell people I was kyle just so they would stack teams? (lol proving just how obsessed you were with kyle before he even cared to talk to you before you started making obsession claims about him)

This now means you want Warcraft 2 to die!! Oh, and lets not forget that you wish death upon all unborn children!

^^ that's how ridiculous you sound, lay off whatever is making you so paranoid. It's already cost you 2 friends that I know about. And god knows how many more that I don't know about.  Nobody is out to get you like you are to get peoples wives. You get trolled on a regular, yes, no ones out to get you though.

 
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2019, 06:19:54 AM »
Usually I don't bother responding to people whose solitary goal is to be haters, but I will address these as you never tire of beating your head against a wall apparently.

I like how you leave unwelcoming to gay people and muslims in your speech babyshark, Seeing as how you've attacked those 2 types of people in your posts on these forums. Funny how the toxic server is more welcoming to those types of people then you are.


The types of traits I mentioned are things that people cannot change. You can't change what age/sex/color you are. Whether you can change your religion is debatable, as you can not change what you believe to be true to what you know to be untrue. However, if your beliefs are untrue and you are a logical person, you can be persuaded with reason and evidence to change your views from false/inaccurate ones to correct ones.

Sexual behavior is behavior. If you give licence to all sexual behavior and preferences as decent and good behavior, you have zero moral grounds to condemn or criticize those who would have sex with children, sex with unwilling participants, sex with animals, sex with corpses. I stand by God's Word and reason on sexual behavior, that sex is designed for a man and a woman to have a baby together, and that baby will be best off if his parents are married and committed to each other and to creating a stable loving family.

Never have I banned or excluded anyone from my games for being Muslim or gay. Never. I have welcomed them (and lots of rude people that have hated on me) into my games. I welcome honest and genuine discussion, as well as non-hateful humor. You don't have to agree with someone's ideas or behavior while still seeing them as a human being created and loved by God and to be treated with courtesy and kindness and truth, which is more loving than pretending lies are true to the detriment of the person in question.

The toxic server is not welcoming to gay people or Muslims, contrary to your claim. "Die, faggot" "cocksucking faggot" etc etc are all considered homophobic terminology according to this manual:

https://www.glsen.org/sites/default/files/GLSEN%20Safe%20Space%20Kit.pdf

And the Muslim guy with the Arabic name was name-called "dummy" "idiot" "retard" whatever it was and I am the one who banned the person who was attacking him from the "moderated" section, because I do respect the humanity of the Muslim as a human being who should be treated with respect, like other people with whom I disagree in viewpoints. I'm the one who protected the Muslim guy. http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,4030.0.html

Muslims and gays and atheists are all welcome to play at War2USA, but they should probably be comfortable with having their beliefs challenged and not think everyone who disagrees with them should be killed/silenced/jailed or they might be uncomfortable because I want everyone to be saved and that can only happen if people's wrong thinking is challenged.


You also went after a mans wife who doesn't even play warcraft 2 and got in contact with them. You're really in no position to be talking about "threats" that dugs supposedly makes to noobs.


This claim is so ludicrous it's laugh-out-loud worthy.

Here is a video of someone "going after" someone:

Unprovoked Attack On Video In Brooklyn - YouTube

Let's examine the facts of the situation with "niggers should be hanged" van.

Van spams me with unprovoked rude and vulgar one-way messages for close to two years. He is not the only one, but he and LeeRoyJenkins were by far the most persistent.

I ignored it, shrugged them off as delinquent cases impervious to reason or sense after trying civil discussion and understanding early on failed. I repeatedly squelched them both.

Yet the messages continued coming after months and months and months of ignoring. Ignoring wasn't working. It was distracting my gameplay.

I asked the admins for help, more than once. Mouse tried to ban LeeRoyJenkins, Tora unbanned, Mouse banned, Tora unbanned. More time went by and it still continued. Asked the admins for help again. Then Mouse accused me of lying and muted me on Discord. They did nothing to help me, but stood by the racist abuser.

I determined to stand up for myself and get the endless harassment to stop. Instead of calling the police, I decided to take a less drastic step, the equivalent of telling a mom her kid is out of line. I sent his wife one polite message asking for the harassment to stop or I would have to take the persistent harassment to the police.

I have a right to defend myself from creepers who can't behave like normal human beings.

To turn this around and say that is "going after" her is beyond ridiculous.

Somehow, I should be subject to years of "you suck nigger dick", "you're an ugly cunt piece of shit", "you blow" etc. and having my games disrupted regularly.

But some other woman is so delicate or so important that telling her "please get this to stop" is somehow bad?

If you can't see how blatantly hypocritical you are, thinking one woman should be harassed endlessly by vile individuals while another can't be asked "please stop the harassment" is preposterous. You're so full of hate towards me for unknown reasons that you can't even think straight.

Why on earth would you be in such a rush to protect "niggers should be hanged" van anyways? It's because of that protection from people like you and the admins that the Russian server has so many new players leaving it on account of toxic atmosphere created by a smallish percentage of the overall userbase.

Gotta love the deductive reasoning in that.. "hmm he asked me a question , how dare he, he must want the game to die!!!!"


His question is essentially not a question. It's a "get lost, you're not welcome here." Which is the same reaction most new players get from the overall Russian server community as a whole.

I want to foster a place where all those people are welcome.

Remember when you used to join all games I was in and tell people I was kyle just so they would stack teams? (lol proving just how obsessed you were with kyle before he even cared to talk to you before you started making obsession claims about him)


I love Kyle. Often, not his behavior, but the person God made, I can genuinely say that I do. I pray for him regularly. I wish him to know God's love and forgiveness, that we all need.

I'm pretty sure you were the one joining my games as I was usually hosting when I was playing. And I played with an awful lot of people so I can't remember each exchange that ever took place. I may have joked about you being Swift a few times, but it was purely a joke ("the" joke, since everyone was always guessing smurfs were him) and nothing to do with teams or anything else. Now that I know you're very sensitive to it, I wouldn't do it again. Anyway, you seem upset about something that happened almost 3 years ago that was a joke and the same one everyone at that time was regularly making and took place before I go to know Swift on any personal level, so clearly not an obsession with Swift. Even if I wanted to marry Swift and tattood his name on my butt and forehead, what would it be to you? You jealous? I would generally just steer clear of people who have determined to hate me for no good reason like yourself. Your mission remains very unclear. What are you hoping I will change about my behavior? Or are you just out to attack for no reason because you're bored?

Oh, and lets not forget that you wish death upon all unborn children!


This one is completely groundless and out of nowhere...

I have always been pro-life. I don't even have a clue where this came from.

Also kind of makes it clear that all your attacks are just venting your personal frustration and nonsense accusations for undeterminable reasons at some random person online with whom you don't agree ideologically.


^^ that's how ridiculous you sound, lay off whatever is making you so paranoid. It's already cost you 2 friends that I know about. And god knows how many more that I don't know about.  Nobody is out to get you like you are to get peoples wives. You get trolled on a regular, yes, no ones out to get you though.


I am not paranoid. Everything I am claiming here is true. The claim that I am "trying to get peoples wives" just makes you look silly. It's nonsense and you probably know it. You're simply trying to defame me and make me look like an aggressor when that is clearly the opposite of the truth. Trying to get long-term harassment to stop is not the same as initiating creepy unwarranted behavior to random people or their wives.

I am not sure why you are concerned about my W2 friends (or loss thereof). That is the nature of humanity and of a sinful world. If people want to stop being your friend because of your religion, because you stand against racism and bullying, because you tell the truth, because you care about people being mistreated, etc., or because they are unwilling to forgive the repentant for the deeds of the sinful nature we all have, the fault lies in the other person. If you think I actually did something (like proclaiming that all black people should be killed) that hasn't been addressed and that I haven't apologized for, I am listening.

I am not sorry for telling the truth, or for caring about people, or for standing up to online bullies, who are the only people I "go after" in the online world.

If you're concerned about psychos taking things too far, why don't you address the person on Team Russia who called Tupac's employer and falsely accused him of criminal activity, attempting to cost him his job?

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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2019, 10:23:38 AM »
but I will address these as you never tire of beating your head against a wall apparently.

Says the one beating their head against a wall repeatedly , how many times did I have to tell you that I wanted action taken against van and that I was ON YOUR SIDE, only for you to keep making personal attacks against me completely unprovoked? That doesn't make me a "hater" when i go on to point how hypocritical and full of crap you are later on.  "You're simply trying to defame me and make me look like an aggressor when that is clearly the opposite of the truth" as you would say. You literally made me side with van because of how shitty you really started to be, and the fact that I have to defend garbage like van speaks volumes to just how wrong you are going about everything.

but they should probably be comfortable with having their beliefs challenged and not think everyone who disagrees with them should be killed/silenced/jailed

Yet anyone who has challenged you slightly is labeled a "hater",  an "anti-babyshark toxic" , someone who is "Trying to kill warcraft 2" and the list goes on, look at maciek, all he asked was a question, which slightly somewhat challenged and you  accused him of many things one of which includes trying to kill this game. You're trying to defame him, and you are a liar, Like I said in my initial post, You are 2 faced and hypocritical, and these posts of yours in this thread alone are more then enough proof of that.
et's examine the facts of the situation with "niggers should be hanged" van.

Van spams me with unprovoked rude and vulgar one-way messages for close to two years. He is not the only one, but he and LeeRoyJenkins were by far the most persistent.

And your response was to scare off your friends and attack them instead of the aggressors, and then follow up with the aggressors family instead of the aggressor
I welcome honest and genuine discussion, as well as non-hateful humor

You really don't though, for all 3 of those things. You've become dishonest within your next post numerous times now.


Why on earth would you be in such a rush to protect "niggers should be hanged" van anyways? It's because of that protection from people like you

I WANTED HIM BANNED. I HAVE TOLD YOU THIS at least 5 times on DISCORD, PRIVATE MESSAGES, IN-GAME  AND PUBLICLY ON THESE FORUMS. Who is banging their head against the wall again refusing to listen to any logical reason? That's right, YOU!  You are so absolutely absurd in your vendetta against him that you took it out on everyone and even started making accusations against me that I actually had to side with that piece of garbage, it pains me to do so, when you're not acting like this, I like you alot more then i like him at any given time,  and if he was posting regularly, he'd be getting shit from me on a regular basis, worse then what you think im giving you, since you've multiplied everything 10 fold) but you've taken this to such an extreme level that you've just made him the good one in all this. That is painful to say
I stand by God's Word

Since you value honest discussions and can be challenged without wanting to silence someone so much (all which have been lies to this point), can you please tell me where in God's word that lying for your own personal gain at anothers expense is a good thing? You have done this on the forums, you have done this in-game, and I don't care to know where else as that list is probably many. But please tell me what good Christians do this? You like bringing God up alot, so I will hold you to YOUR standard, (Not mine) as you believe that you are a Good Christian

I want to foster a place where all those people are welcome.

By silencing  or branding everyone who would dare ask you a question without your permission?
Oh, and lets not forget that you wish death upon all unborn children!


This one is completely groundless and out of nowhere...

I have always been pro-life. I don't even have a clue where this came from.

Also kind of makes it clear that all your attacks are just venting your personal frustration and nonsense accusations for undeterminable reasons at some random person online with whom you don't agree ideologically.

That was only an example of how extreme you make every little thing and question, which you have proven is exactly how you react, I really don't know how obvious I could've made it by saying " ^^^ This is how ridiculous you sound", I said something absolutely ludicrous the same way you did, without a thought, without question, without checking anything simply to show you How absurd you look in your reactions to simple posts and questions. It was designed to be completely groundless and out of nowhere, ITS WHAT YOU ARE DOING and you need to see it in a different light
Also kind of makes it clear that all your attacks are just venting your personal frustration and nonsense accusations for undeterminable reasons at some random person online with whom you don't agree ideologically.

YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY THIS TO EVERYBODY, EVEN YOUR OWN FRIENDS, that is the point you are too blinded by your rage at van, leeroyjenkins and dugs to see, YOU ARE DOING THIS, I am showing you what you are doing in another form and how you drive people away from you even if you were right in the van/leeroy instance initially
I'm pretty sure you were the one joining my games as I was usually hosting when I was playing. And I played with an awful lot of people so I can't remember each exchange that ever took place. I may have joked about you being Swift a few times, but it was purely a joke ("the" joke, since everyone was always guessing smurfs were him) and nothing to do with teams or anything else. Now that I know you're very sensitive to it, I wouldn't do it again. Anyway, you seem upset about something that happened almost 3 years ago that was a joke and the same one everyone at that time was regularly making and took place before I go to know Swift on any personal level, so clearly not an obsession with Swift. Even if I wanted to marry Swift and tattood his name on my butt and forehead, what would it be to you? You jealous? I would generally just steer clear of people who have determined to hate me for no good reason like yourself. Your mission remains very unclear. What are you hoping I will change about my behavior? Or are you just out to attack for no reason because you're bored?

Lol, "Now that i know you've very sensitve to it, i wont do it again, you still hate me for no reason though", Realize the failure to admit any fault in your behavior or even attempt to apologize? I don't dislike you for the stuff you did 3 years ago, it was entertaining for a while actually. I simply used it as an extreme example which is HOW YOU ARE OPERATING to prove how you take anything said to you in an extreme manner.  But the fact that you thought that somehow the example I provided actually bothered me that much and caused me to hate you (Which I don't actually hate you, thats YOU being paranoid which is the entire reason we have a conflict in the first place), and you refused to admit any fault in your behavior and apologize speaks volumes. You are proving how 2 faced you are, but please, tell me in your next post how much I hate you, you also say my mission is unclear.  Well if I really hated you that much in all your extreme instances, then wouldn't it be obvious? You have to know theres at least some truth to what im saying if you are that unsure of "my mission", so just get off your high horse,  for just 5 minutes and actually really listen to what those around you have to say?

I am not sorry for telling the truth, or for caring about people, or for standing up to online bullies, who are the only people I "go after" in the online world.

You slowly became the bully. That is the problem. And you've known me long enough to know that I will go after them if they try anything with me. And don't you twist it. YOU DID just that, not anywhere near the level of other people like van, equinox or whoever have done with me, which is why I've been more lenient with you. But you still did it. And you keep avoiding the fact that you did it by trying to turn it into something that it's not and making it worse.

 
I am not sure why you are concerned about my W2 friends (or loss thereof). That is the nature of humanity and of a sinful world

Don't blame humanity and a sinful world for what you did. The world is shitty yes, but the world didn't make you act the way you did to your friends. That minuscule part of humanity was all you. No one else.



If you're concerned about psychos taking things too far, why don't you address the person on Team Russia who called Tupac's employer and falsely accused him of criminal activity, attempting to cost him his job?

I have not heard of this, but do you guys have some proof of this? Not that it will change my stance on the issue me and you currently have. But I have no issues with Tupac as i've said before. I wish no harm upon him, nor have I wished harm upon you for that matter for as much as you seem to think I have.   

I am not paranoid.

Your paranoia is what caused our issue to begin with. And the fact that you keep having to brand me as some hateful for no reason beast like an infant after every post is more then enough proof of that. Just stop, look, and listen. Then think. It will become clear.
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Re: New features
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2019, 01:55:30 PM »
how many times did I have to tell you that I wanted action taken against van


I didn't remember very well what was actually said last summer, but I found this:


Okay, so van has harassed you too. So why are you defending him? Or saying asking for it to stop is wrong?

only for you to keep making personal attacks against me


What personal attacks? Post it here please because I have no idea what "continued personal attacks" you're referring to from that time period (last summer). I never had an issue with you until you began inserting yourself into other situations going at me when I was in the same frustrated frame of mind any normal person would be in had they experienced what I had.

You literally made me side with van because of how shitty you really started to be, and the fact that I have to defend garbage like van speaks volumes to just how wrong you are going about everything.


Be more specific. Show posts or SS's or quotes or something so I have some clue what you're talking about regarding what I did against you last summer or prior to that. I really have no idea.

Yet anyone who has challenged you slightly is labeled a "hater",  an "anti-babyshark toxic"


This is total nonsense. I have some 800 posts on this forum, many of them responding calmly and rationally to people who are calling for me and my kids to be killed.

A hater is someone who just shows up for no other purpose than to irritate, attack, inflame, annoy. I have a purpose with my posts that is for the good of the individuals and society in general reading them. Truth matters. I want people to be saved and go to heaven, and on earth I want society to be free, civil, courteous, stable, safe, and so on. I want children to be born to stable parents who love them. I want people to be able to live unmolested and so on. I want human good, human happiness. Humor or entertainment can be other purposes for posting and I have done some silly stuff too for sure. Show me evidence anywhere that I call someone a hater for merely challenging me if they are genuinely seeking the truth and not just make empty, unfounded attacks.

"Trying to kill warcraft 2" and the list goes on, look at maciek, all he asked was a question, which slightly somewhat challenged and you  accused him of many things one of which includes trying to kill this game. You're trying to defame him, and you are a liar,

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Maciek was not merely asking a question. He was telling whoever he was talking to (Tupac in this case) that he is not welcome here. If you can't see that, you can't read like a normal person and that's not something I can do anything about. If you think this is wrong, Maciek can easily clear up the misunderstanding by replying that "Tupac and BabyShark are welcome here because they haven't actually broken any rule we have here." There have already been several people calling for both Tupac and myself to be banned, not for breaking any written rule, but for playing W2 somewhere where people aren't spammed "you suck nigger dick" over and over, and perhaps myself for calling people out on things like harassment, power abuse, lies, and so on. People generally like to carry out their evil deeds unquestioned.

Herod put John the Baptist in prison for telling him he can't lawfully marry his living brother's wife, then later beheaded him. He didn't want someone telling him that adultery was wrong and was ready to kill an innocent person for it.

Like I said in my initial post, You are 2 faced and hypocritical, and these posts of yours in this thread alone are more then enough proof of that.


Hypocrite definition: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs (dictionary.com)

Name the belief I have and name the words or actions that contradict it.

I do not have a belief against calling out people on poor behavior or bullying.

Show me what lies you're talking about? You have yet to mention a single one.

And your response was to scare off your friends and attack them instead of the aggressors


Please be more specific. No clue what you're referring to here.

and then follow up with the aggressors family instead of the aggressor


If you have a better way to deal with long-term harassment in the absence of admins doing a thing about it, I'd like to learn it. If you think talking nicely to van and asking him to please stop would have any effect, you are not in touch with reality.


You've become dishonest within your next post numerous times now.


Show every example and be specific. You have yet to mention a single lie.


you've taken this to such an extreme level that you've just made him [van] the good one in all this. That is painful to say


Interesting you think someone who threatens to slash your throat is "the good one in all this". I have never threatened your or anyone else's physical safety in this forum (but yes, I've made jokes about biting off arms that are obviously jokes with people I am comfortable joking around with).


Since you value honest discussions and can be challenged without wanting to silence someone so much (all which have been lies to this point), can you please tell me where in God's word that lying for your own personal gain at anothers expense is a good thing? You have done this on the forums, you have done this in-game, and I don't care to know where else as that list is probably many. But please tell me what good Christians do this? You like bringing God up alot, so I will hold you to YOUR standard, (Not mine) as you believe that you are a Good Christian


The only people I have wanted to silence via W2 authority are people like van and LeeRoyJenkins (and others who behave like them) on account of their continual unprovoked attacks and harassment of myself and other users, creating a hostile atmosphere that new players generally want nothing to do with and even long-term players get fed up with their nonstop verbal diarrhea. They should have both been banned a long time ago in increasing increments with each violation.

I don't believe I am a "good Christian". I have never said that. I am a Christian because I acknowledge that I am a sinful and fallen human being, full of sin and evil, and needing saving. I need Jesus because I'm sinful, not because I think I'm good enough without Him. It's actually non-believers who think they are good enough without Jesus on their own who think they are good. Christians know we are sinful and need help. If you don't believe in the authority of God or the Bible, where do you think moral authority comes from? You accuse me of lying without evidence, implying you believe lying is wrong, but if we are an accidental chemical reaction and nothing more than particles in motion, how can *anything* ever be wrong? Your knowing lying is wrong shows that you know that God's standard of morality is the truth.

You are once again accusing me of lying. What lies? Be specific. If this is still about a 3 year old joke of someone just being silly a couple of times in game, that's pretty sad.

Have I ever lied? Of course. Who hasn't? I am generally a very honest person. If I accidentally take something from the store without paying, I return it when I notice or go back to pay for it. I'm not a perfect person nor have I ever claimed to be.

By silencing  or branding everyone who would dare ask you a question without your permission?


Who did I silence lol? Maciek can talk all he wants. I never suggested he be muted or banned or silenced. I generally don't have a problem with Maciek, never have, don't know him, and I know his only problem with me is from Swift's smear campaign that clearly brainwashed a lot of people who never had an issue with me for years before it. I'm just tired of people like Tupac (who has done far more for the W2 community than most people with putting in hours of time and work and lots of money and giving newcomers tech help, including a friend I invited to play W2 for the first time some months ago) being told he should be banned or that he isn't welcome based on false accusations or the fact that he wants a better place to play W2 than the Russian server where there are no rules, yet people like DeathKnight~ and Tupac and myself are muted or banned without warning for breaking no rule and no evidence on false accusations.

That was only an example of how extreme you make every little thing and question, which you have proven is exactly how you react, I really don't know how obvious I could've made it by saying " ^^^ This is how ridiculous you sound", I said something absolutely ludicrous the same way you did, without a thought, without question, without checking anything simply to show you How absurd you look in your reactions to simple posts and questions. It was designed to be completely groundless and out of nowhere, ITS WHAT YOU ARE DOING and you need to see it in a different light


You lying against me saying I want to kill babies is not proof that I have lied, but proof you have. I'm still waiting for you to specify what "lies" I've told. Yes, 3 years ago I acted silly and said "IT'S SWIFT" in game, about you. I had no idea you would still be upset about it 3 years later. I am not sorry for being silly as it's part of who I am, but I am sorry that it affected you this way and I wouldn't do it with you again for that reason. I'm not out to make people sad, but to make them laugh. I think you and I just don't have compatible personalities, that's all. I'm fine with leaving you alone like I have for the past 3 years, but if you show up to criticize or attack me or falsely accuse me, don't call any response "unprovoked". I am often responding to people who are calling to have me killed, and I'm the one being told I'm "extreme" lol. Your bias is showing.

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    Also kind of makes it clear that all your attacks are just venting your personal frustration and nonsense accusations for undeterminable reasons at some random person online with whom you don't agree ideologically.
YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY THIS TO EVERYBODY, EVEN YOUR OWN FRIENDS, that is the point you are too blinded by your rage at van, leeroyjenkins and dugs to see, YOU ARE DOING THIS, I am showing you what you are doing in another form and how you drive people away from you even if you were right in the van/leeroy instance initially


Give me examples. Show me. Cuz I don't follow. I am generally not a ragey person, but anyone can be pushed over the limit when people go too far.

Van and LeeRoyJenkins are cancers to W2 and should have been banned. It would be my hope that "discipline" would help them stop their bad behavior and that they would start acting like decent human beings. Unlikely.

Dugs I have always liked. Enjoyed carrying him in games:



Dugs made a mistake. Dugs is a generally nice guy that I still like who made some bad decisions (like siding against the American standard "innocent until proven guilty" with Tupac (without which, all accused of anything by anyone are automatically guilty without evidence), banning the innocent nice guy DeathKnight~, and calling to have me banned for questioning him or challenging him to 1s, not sure which).

He invited smack-talk. He likes it. Dugs made an apology for DeathKnight's wrongful ban, a step in the right direction. I just want him to not ban innocent people. Then he showed how truly un-sorry he was by calling for me to be banned for not breaking ru's nearly non-existent code of conduct, while making sure everyone knows that he is a very important person and should not have to deal with newbs and waster individuals with his important time. I'd like for him to offer a genuine apology, not ban any more innocent people, but ban the guilty racist harassers like van and LeeRoy who make the Russian server a crappy place to play. And I'd like for him to 1s me in a 10 game 10 maps series of maps he can pick himself. He's called me newb enough times that I'd like to challenge him to game. Nothing wrong with that. People do it all the time. Reminder: he said there's no such thing as shit-talk gone too far. So you can't hold anything I do or say to Dugs against me since the invitation was there. It is not rage, it's done in good humor while still standing by my position that people shouldn't be banned from W2 if they haven't been shown to have broken the code of conduct (like Tupac, myself, and DeathKnight~) and should be banned if they have (like van and LeeRoy).

Lol, "Now that i know you've very sensitve to it, i wont do it again, you still hate me for no reason though", Realize the failure to admit any fault in your behavior or even attempt to apologize? I don't dislike you for the stuff you did 3 years ago, it was entertaining for a while actually.


So you're admitting my joking about your smurf name being Swift 3 years ago was "entertaining" yet you are accusing me of wrong-doing? I'm not sorry for my personality or silly side or joking, but I am sorry that my silly side affected you in a negative manner. Like I said, I won't do it again.

You slowly became the bully. That is the problem. And you've known me long enough to know that I will go after them if they try anything with me. And don't you twist it. YOU DID just that, not anywhere near the level of other people like van, equinox or whoever have done with me, which is why I've been more lenient with you. But you still did it. And you keep avoiding the fact that you did it by trying to turn it into something that it's not and making it worse.


I don't know you very well, actually. Give examples so I know what you're talking about. What exactly is the thing you're referring to when you say "you did it". Did what??

I don't mind if someone sees me as a "bully" of bullies, someone who will stand up to people who go around provoking and attacking or banning people for no reason.

But bring forward ONE single person with whom I initiated a problem with by going after them with rudeness for no reason. Ie. "Hey man, you're ugly!" to a random person. Good luck. If I'm provoked, I can get feisty like anyone else, as I am a normal human being and not a robot.

Don't blame humanity and a sinful world for what you did. The world is shitty yes, but the world didn't make you act the way you did to your friends. That minuscule part of humanity was all you. No one else.


"What I did"...which was??? What friends?? Be specific. Don't say "dishonesty, lying, hypocrisy" without giving evidence. Provide concrete examples cuz so far you have zero.

I have not heard of this, but do you guys have some proof of this?


I asked Xurnt if he did it and he didn't respond, which to me is an admission of guilt. If he could have honestly said "No, I didn't do it.", he would have. He messaged Tupac in a threatening manner the same day as the phone call that he had Tupac's personal information. He also has a criminal history, so it wouldn't be too surprising.



Any person who hadn't done this would quickly respond that they hadn't done it. No response in 3 months. Calling people's employers in order to try to lie against them to have them fired is deranged behavior.

Your paranoia is what caused our issue to begin with. And the fact that you keep having to brand me as some hateful for no reason beast like an infant after every post is more then enough proof of that. Just stop, look, and listen. Then think. It will become clear.


paranoia definition: 1. an extreme and unreasonable feeling that other people do not like you or are going to harm or criticize you (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/paranoia)

I am not paranoid. Everything I'm saying has happened actually has. Honest constructive criticism intended to be helpful is fine. Just saying KILL! BAN! NAZI! RACIST! SLUT! MENTALLY ILL! PHOBE! LIAR! HYPOCRITE! EVIL! BULLY! in the absence of truth and real evidence of anything while trying to persuade anyone you're on the side of truth and compassion is being the hypocrite/evil/bully/liar that the accuser is accusing someone else of being.

I know plenty of people (basically most of the nice, normal, rational, friendly people) like me and we get along just fine. Check out my W2 streams to see the different atmosphere on the American server and how people just want to have fun and play a nice game without all the bullcrap the Russian server has going on.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB-8vOiFP6WfBHhYBbcPKFg/videos

I don't initiate or create problems. Other people do. I just happen to not be a pushover who is going to run away from bullies. I make mistakes and when I do, I own them and apologize if I hurt people who didn't deserve it. (And being offended by the truth does not count as "hurt".)

So far, you have accused me of lying, hypocrisy, and being a bully with no evidence.

A bully is someone who goes after a person who is weaker or has a less powerful position - the people I stand up to are generally not in these categories, and initiate the bullying which I am simply trying to stop.

If you don't want to be called out by me, don't make groundless, intentionally provocative attacks, don't falsely accuse without evidence.

If you have a problem with something I say or do, be specific and provide evidence and examples.

Like when you say I "continued to attack you unprovoked for no reason", bring the evidence. I don't believe I ever attacked you unprovoked in my life.

Again, writing long essays like this is time-consuming and tedious, and if you just write another post filled with false accusations with no evidence mainly linked to other people who are perfectly fit to defend themselves should they feel the need, I'm not sure I want to take the time to write to someone who isn't really interested in a coherent discussion and is just bored and frustrated and throwing around wild unfounded accusations.
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Re: New features
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2019, 03:27:50 PM »
i'll reply to all that  tomorrow. Im going to sleep now.  quick little summary, Few things on forums ill prove, but the main issue where our issue started happened in-game because i wouldnt delete a post on one of your threads after you initially asked me to on pm here on forums, it wasnt anything bad, infact it was non-hateful humor which you claim earlier in this thread to allow. (pms available of your request)  and i didnt care to screenshot the in-game nonsense in the middle of a game, I thought you'd be a grown up about it over the next few days after it happened and then it would be water under the bridge. We had a second fight a few days later about it and Shortly after that i stopped playing again due to other games i play taking up most of my time. and only post on here, and then you started labeling me a hater or "anti babyshark toxic" etc when id say things like ill take a guess and say kyle and u8 have never spoken about you to each other in there life. thatll require some old post digging for the forum stuff but yeah, see you tomorrow.

 
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2019, 05:43:33 PM »
Modify chat formatting so the returned results from / commands aren’t indented all funky.


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Re: New features
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2019, 09:33:28 PM »
Short reminder just in case you missed it:
forum.war2.RU <<< this is the site you are on right now...

Why is there not a forum.war2.usa yet?
You are on war2.ru here with all the people you hate and want to go away from so be consistent and GTFO !
Make your own shit and leave us alone, quit talking here about your stupid project that no one cares or talk about anymore.

Make and host your own forum, no one talks about you here, no one cares about you or talks about you for months here, so stop being total parasites if you want to make your own stuff make it and be consistent about it but quit posting here where you say people are not worth your time.

While you are at it make your own site web and own downloads hosting stop using this forum where all people you hate are hanging out we do not enjoy having you around either.

Especially when you maliciously try to advert your shit that no one talks or care about.

In other words since this might not be clear enough gtfo we do not need your self centered self loved and egoistic power hungry asses here.

I do not often curse but man you guys are one kind of craving for attention snowflakes. You guys are annoying as fuck why do we still have to get you around? Why cant you just leave and do your own thing without coming back every freaking month to tell us how happy you are to have your own shit? And how happy you are that you can rule as you like because obviously community driven was a too foreign concept for you.
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Re: New features
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2019, 10:51:20 PM »
BabyShark threadjacks another topic into a tire fire. News at 11.

Also:

   
Quote from: Sepi
       
Quote from: WhatWouldjessu001Do
           
Quote from: tupac
               
Quote from: maciek
                   
Quote from: tupac
                     
Quote from: tk[as]
                           
Quote from: tupac
                                Most of the assholes here is blocked from my software.
                           
                            nobody joining ur server tupac...that's just the way it is. things will never be the same.
                       
                        That's your opinion. Plenty of people play on my server. You made your choice months ago. You are in the shit list already and won't be removed.
                   
                    so ask those people on your own forum??????
               
                You have now been added also.
           
            You're being petty and narrow-minded, maciek.
            Some of us are actually interested in the long term success of this game. [...]
            No one has done anything to you. What is your agenda? What's your plan/mission/purpose? [...]
            You don't own W2. [...]
            You want to kill W2. [...]
       
        just a non-toxic thread here guys
   

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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2019, 11:54:11 PM »
First off a lot of negative energy and hostility that is completely uncalled for. I recall you being one of the promoters of a cleaner, less toxic W2 community, but you've clearly changed your tune.

Why is there not a forum.war2.usa yet?

There is. Different web address, though.

You are on war2.ru here with all the people you hate and want to go away from

Name one person I hate. I don't hate. I tell the truth. There's a difference.

Make your own shit and leave us alone

Didn't address you by name, not sure where all the rage is coming from.

stupid project

I like W2. Maybe video games are stupid, and people who like to have fun are stupid, and people who want to help new players learn the game are stupid. Maybe.

Make and host your own forum

Why don't *you* make and host your own forum? You didn't make or host this one. What makes you think you have more right to be here than I do? I like W2.

no one talks about you here, no one cares about you or talks about you for months here

Are you suggesting people sit around in circles discussing you? And therefore...you're more entitled than I am to make posts on a public Warcraft 2 forum? I haven't seen many people discussing you in great length, either.

so stop being total parasites

Technically, everyone using Blizzard's game is a "parasite" equally, since no one here designed or created the game, and any community based on the game is drawing a crowd because of THE GAME, and not for any other reason. So to claim "rights" to Warcraft 2, you're being a parasite who can't admit he's a parasite.

While you are at it make your own site web

Done.

but quit posting here

Why? It's relevant to the game of Warcraft 2, which is exactly the topic of the entire community, and is intended to be helpful to new players. Why aren't you telling other people to quit posting videos or anything else here? Why are you targetting me? Take a few deep breaths, let go of your rage, and try to come up with some rational responses.

we do not enjoy having you around either.

That is different from what you last said to me in Discord:



In the other Discord you also said you miss playing with me, not gonna hunt it down, but you can yourself if you care to.

So trying to understand where this level of rage and hostility is coming from is something of a mystery.

I'm suspecting a not-so-secret brainwashing station lurks beneath...or in plain view...in Russia, where people enter smiling, and come out foaming at the mouth and bleeding at the eyes with pitchforks.

What *exactly* is bothering you?

maliciously

I didn't enter maliciously, nor do I generally operate maliciously or with the desire to hurt or harm people.

In other words since this might not be clear enough gtfo we do not need your self centered self loved and egoistic power hungry asses here.

This is insanity. If people don't want to be spammed "you suck nigger dick" and other garbage for 2 years, they are power hungry, self centred, and egotistic. Great logic. You yourself said you don't want racist spam on your stream, and now you're backpedaling and being extremely and ridiculously loyal to racism and its proponents. You said on Discord that you're loyal to your values. What are your values? You seem to have embraced racism, hate, rudeness, bigotry, and silencing anyone who questions you by ganging up tactics.

I do not often curse but man you guys are one kind of craving for attention snowflakes.

Maybe you're a craving for attention snowflake. Empty insults are meaningless.

You guys are annoying as fuck why do we still have to get you around?

You're the one being annoying right now. Swearing at people, telling them they have no right to be somewhere, name-calling, raging rudely...this is sad behavior for any adult person, especially one who considers himself as having the higher ground.

Why cant you just leave and do your own thing without coming back every freaking month to tell us how happy you are to have your own shit?

Why don't *you* leave and see what you can create on your own? It's a lot easier to criticize than create, that's for sure.

And how happy you are that you can rule as you like because obviously community driven was a too foreign concept for you.

"Community driven" A community where newcomers are pushed out, people are banned for no reason, people are giving out death threats and saying they will rape people's mothers, a community where people can spew out "niggers should be hanged" and everyone is fine with it...except a few people who think that kind of hateful speech is vile and should not be tolerated, who are then told to GTFO for repeatedly defending other people.

I wasn't talking to you, if you don't want to read my posts, don't read them.

Be very clear. Exactly. What. Behavior. Of. Mine. Are. You. Finding. Fault. With.

Wanting to defend people from abuse, harassment, unjust banning?

Wanting to play Warcraft 2 in the absence of harassment?

Making a video to help new players? Sharing the video where new Warcraft 2 players might find it and learn a few things?

I didn't do anything to you to warrant this kind of nastiness form you.

You are the hateful person, not me. Telling the truth and calling out gross indecency as what it is is not hate.

You should take a good look in the mirror as your face is twisted into that angry scowl with hateful and rude words dripping from your lips, and ask yourself what kind of person you are being, and is it who you want to be?

Remind me, again, exactly what you're accusing me of. Not accepting racism? Well, boo-hoo. Racism is wrong and disgusting, no matter what your crowd says about it. Death threats to other users are wrong and disgusting.

You are the triggered snowflake who lost his temper because some person made a forum post or two you don't like, and your answer, as it is with typical unthinking people, is SILENCE/BAN/RID this place of truth and reason! We don't want to hear it!!

KILL ALL NIGGERS!!! KILL BABYSHARK!!! GTFO DIEEEE BITCHHHHHHHHHH



Is being rude and hateful to people who question racism one of your "values"?
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Re: New features
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2019, 12:10:16 AM »
I am talking about your war2.usa not about you personnally stop bringing it up...
When I say you I talk for all of you that keep saying war2.ru is shit and still cant get enough of it apparently.
Here this is not war2.usa this is war2.ru if you really do not like people on war2.ru why do you keep hanging out here why not just leave the forums too?

You decided that because that community was not going to make the changes You personally wanted then you had to make your own thing that you can impose your rule on... Good for you! But if that is really the case quit coming advertising it here because here are only the people you called toxic and that community you said was hopeless...

I am staying true to my principles by the fact that I am still believing in community driven projects not personal vendettas

You keep insulting the community and what it does saying your server is less toxic saying it is all better in your place yet you still come here to seek what?
Why exactly do you guys keep coming back here if you have your own forum?

Tell me what compels you to come here post again and again in that so called toxic forum and community you so hypocritically choose to hate and like when it pleases your own agenda?

You have a forum dedicated to war2 very good on your nice usa super good server that the whole non toxic super acceptable world plays on, where you can change what ever you want when it pleases you and moderate as you like, why post your things here then? Since it is sooo bad here?
Since you do not want to hangout with us and it is better why would you waste your time here with that toxic community?
Why not stay with your awesome community hmmmm?

I know why I just want you to say it and admit how dishonest you are being right now