I didn't remember very well what was actually said last summer, but I found this:
You first started something over PMs with me because of this comment I made on a thread and even tried to get me to modify/delete the post even though what I said actually happened on Discord.
Van also asked Britney Spears on the discord for head the other day. She has a music career to focus on and does not need this harassment.
What is your problem? What did I ever to do you that you would want to gang up to bully me? This isnt funny.
Thought you were better than that.
Which "thought you were better than that" in of itself is hilarious.
It came across to me and everyone else reading it that you think I'm making a big deal of nothing, calling a few "mean" messages harassment.
Which no one commented on i might add, so don't speak for everyone on a post like that, speak for yourself
Well you know, if you have an ounce of decency, you could go modify your post that seems to be mocking the victim of ongoing harassment that's been happening for over a year by psychotic losers. You are making a joke of it but I am now seriously fed up with it and the admins' failure to do anything about it, and the morons talking about my tits.
None of this is okay.
All this when what I said had actually happened, with a screenshot in PM no less, and responded with
I want van banned permanently as much as the next person. The guy to this day still harasses me because he lost to a single mage when I was playing humans from 4 and he couldn't kill a single unit while playing 2 on gow. He still can't get over that and will bother me whenever he sees me online.
Please don't go acting like i'm some saint just because we're cool with each other. I don't have a problem with you, i dont want a problem with you, judging by my history with people like equinox, you will know when I have a problem with you.
Afterwards is when the in-game stuff started to happen, you asking me again why i wont delete my comment on forums then attacking me with garbage like how I hate women and im sexist, and that I am protecting van and so on and so on (Even though my posts exposed him to harassing other people? And I only started to defend the guy months after this nonsense with you) all because i didn't want to delete/modify a non-hateful humor comment, (which your ok with you say on this thread!, the pms prove otherwise by you trying to silence/censor me because only your problems come first) while in that same post stating an actual event that happened. which I don't have the screenshots to prove the in-game stuff happened, As I don't care to screenshot much things that aren't things related to hacking like SS requests unless its something potentially more serious then that,
Quote from: Winchester on January 06, 2019, 10:23:38 AM
Yet anyone who has challenged you slightly is labeled a "hater", an "anti-babyshark toxic"
This is total nonsense. I have some 800 posts on this forum, many of them responding calmly and rationally to people who are calling for me and my kids to be killed.
A hater is someone who just shows up for no other purpose than to irritate, attack, inflame, annoy.
Show me evidence anywhere that I call someone a hater for merely challenging me if they are genuinely seeking the truth and not just make empty, unfounded attack
Well, heres a thread which proves you wrong http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,4457.30.html,
I haven't spoken to you since our in-game stuff happened to this point and I made no attack against you at all, all I write is
Im going to take a leap of faith here and guess that Swift has never spoken to U8 about babyshark once in his lifetime.
To which you respond, start Branding me with everyone else because I wouldn't fulfill your stupid request in august, and in the same post, much like your post to Maciek, think I have some ulterior motivation because of some short post, and even more! in the same post saying you would walk away if everyone stops talking about you, which they did, For several months yet you came back recently regardless of that, regardless of your word and started more drama!
The Anti-BabyShark Toxics have nothing but lies, insults, unfounded slanderous accusations, and now wild guesses and leaps of faith.
What's your motivation, Winchester? What are you after?
I would gladly walk away, but some people are adamant to chase and smear and malign me with lies and ridiculous accusations. People should know the truth.
Hypocrite definition: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs (dictionary.com)
Name the belief I have and name the words or actions that contradict it.
For one, pretending to be so against smearing people, yet you'll smear me, and people like Maciek for disagreeing with you, even if Macieks small post towards was what you say it was, in that he wants you and Tupac to go away, this does NOT mean he wants to kill warcraft 2, it would just means he wants you to go away. You are not warcraft 2, which certainly means he's not trying to kill you either. Secondly, pretending to being so anti-toxic to the point you started your own server for it, yet being one of the toxic ones here on the forums that aren't yours
Quote from: Winchester on January 06, 2019, 10:23:38 AM
And your response was to scare off your friends and attack them instead of the aggressors
Please be more specific. No clue what you're referring to here.
Above posts involving me should be enough.
Quote from: Winchester on January 06, 2019, 10:23:38 AM
By silencing or branding everyone who would dare ask you a question without your permission?
Who did I silence lol? Maciek can talk all he wants. I never suggested he be muted or banned or silenced. I generally don't have a problem with Maciek, never have, don't know him,
By silence I mean you just brand them a 'hater' or "anti babyshark toxic" as a means to ignore them, all because they questioned you or your beliefs. But you are also dishonest here, even though you don't know him, you do have a problem with him questioning you, which is why your slandering him and accusing him of having some agenda or mission. Even if he just wants you to go away, His not doing anything wrong on the level you accuse him of.
but if you show up to criticize or attack me or falsely accuse me, don't call any response "unprovoked". I am often responding to people who are calling to have me killed, and I'm the one being told I'm "extreme" lol. Your bias is showing.
You lying against me saying I want to kill babies is not proof that I have lied, but proof you have. I'm still waiting for you to specify what "lies" I've told. I am not sorry for being silly as it's part of who I am, but I am sorry that it affected you this way and I wouldn't do it with you again for that reason. but to make them laughI'm fine with leaving you alone like I have for the past 3 years, but if you show up to criticize or attack me or falsely accuse me, don't call any response "unprovoked". I am often responding to people who are calling to have me killed, and I'm the one being told I'm "extreme" lol. Your bias is showing.
Bias: inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group, especially in a way considered to be unfair.
Show me where I posted calling to have you killed to warrant extreme responses from you. You attacked me for days because I wouldn't remove a comment telling the truth with some slight humor (Humor which on this very thread you claim to be ok with! Non-Hateful! Lied obviously) in it. I have not called to have you killed at any point. Nor have I criticized you without some truth to it without you labeling me as a hater or an " Anti-Babyshark Toxic". YOUR bias is showing, as well as your inflated self importance. All you've ever been is unfair in these past few threads. Another thing you are hypocritical about. You have the biggest bias. "Maciek wants me to go away, HE WANTS WARCRAFT 2 TO DIE". <<< Not a bias at all? And lol, sorry that my baby killing comment bothered you so much, you've only been on the same level of extreme to push your agenda since August.
don't mind if someone sees me as a "bully" of bullies, someone who will stand up to people who go around provoking and attacking or banning people for no reason.
But bring forward ONE single person with whom I initiated a problem with by going after them with rudeness for no reason. Ie. "Hey man, you're ugly!" to a random person. Good luck. If I'm provoked, I can get feisty like anyone else, as I am a normal human being and not a robot.
Except you say that Dugs is a nice guy who just made a mistake, yet months later you magically reappear to continuously start attacking him and make accusations against him? You also attacked me in game for days for also being attacked by van? As if to say only your problems should be highlighted and no one elses and that I should keep my mouth shut?
Provide concrete examples cuz so far you have zero.
You need to listen to your own advice here. You throw around baseless accusations with 0 Proof constantly. IE: Maciek wants to kill warcraft 2 Why don't you provide concrete examples?. Dugs is threatening people, let me tell you something, Dugs sister was actually threatened once by someone on warcraft 2 and he stopped playing for a while because of it because it was too far.
Sorry that you contacting another man on a video games wife brings back flashbacks to that for some people
paranoia definition: 1. an extreme and unreasonable feeling that other people do not like you or are going to harm or criticize you
Yes, you possess an extreme, and unreasonable feeling that other people do not like you or are going to harm you or criticize you. That's why You're being called extreme , because one thing unrelated to killing equates to killing in your eyes. Hence why the baby murder example I used on you when you called me swift 3 years ago. It doesn't bother me at all, I've been accused of being the guy who actually threatened dugs sister when I wasn't which was actually a real problem when I was just actually a new player who found a link on youtube. the criticisms against you are not unjust, and are not intended to harm you, or show hatred towards you, despite how much you think it does.
Just saying KILL! BAN! NAZI! RACIST! SLUT! MENTALLY ILL! PHOBE! LIAR! HYPOCRITE! EVIL! BULLY! in the absence of truth and real evidence of anything while trying to persuade anyone you're on the side of truth and compassion is being the hypocrite/evil/bully/liar that the accuser is accusing someone else of being.
Other then point out how you've lied, and how you've become the bully to some people unrelated to your van incident, and proven to be hypocritical, please tell me where I said any of the other things about you. Quite frankly, you've called me most of those things based with no evidence of anything? Yes I defend van now, and this is months after you were calling me most of these things already pretty much forcing me to side with him.
If you don't want to be called out by me, don't make groundless, intentionally provocative attacks, don't falsely accuse without evidence.
The same applies to you. Don't think you're above being called out for groundless stuff with no evidence.