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RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus] 518  15

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RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« on: March 13, 2019, 05:48:05 PM »
That is not Warcraft II from Blizzard! That is clone based on opensource wargus/stratagus.
Though developers do not position their project as a wargus: they don't follow wargus way: to use resources from War2TD/BDP for DOS. They use resources from War2 The Dark Saga or create them theirselves.

That is not a release to play on our server as it's not a Blizzard war2, but it's a very good thing to look how new wargus/stratagus engine look like.
Final stratagus version now is 2.4.2, but it still have some problems, so developers used previous stable one: 2.3.

The main goal is project is good, high-quality graphics, video and music. They create their own beautiful art in high-res and their own music in high bitrate.
Everything to dive into Warcraft II atmosphere!

Now there are 2 campaings: TD orc and TD human are ready.
Everything in english.

It also supports it's own multiplayer (you can use hamachi to try).
You feel free to download it here from our ftp: ftp://ftp.war2.ru/war2/Warcraft%20II%20R.7z
Just unpack and run.
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 08:59:39 PM »
Nice!! Thank you very much!! :thumbsup: :peon:
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 06:10:51 PM »
I dont understand why ppl want change  this game,

- free repair till bulding is complete
- voice repair is like hit by peon
- you can go back with 2-100(125) wood
- going to mine/wood when peon got allready gold/wood
- if my units just stay they will go insta attack if they see opponents in unit sight
-really points
-tower had 6 range and he just focus  hall not peons mining

also i saw(maybe in diffrent version) when i could go to my ally base and start mining from his gold to his hall with my peon ......
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2019, 02:41:31 AM »
WARCRAFT 2 REMASTERED РЕЛИЗ - YouTube

Were you speaking about it?
It's dark saga I think

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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2019, 10:05:18 AM »
No, im talking about wargus and this is wargus hd, not warcraft 2 hd
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2019, 11:19:00 AM »
I dont understand why ppl want change  this game,

- free repair till bulding is complete
- voice repair is like hit by peon
- you can go back with 2-100(125) wood
- going to mine/wood when peon got allready gold/wood
- if my units just stay they will go insta attack if they see opponents in unit sight
-really points
-tower had 6 range and he just focus  hall not peons mining

also i saw(maybe in diffrent version) when i could go to my ally base and start mining from his gold to his hall with my peon ......

Agree.

Wargus is well written. It is good programming - but it is bad wc2.

I just played this again and remembered why I've always hated it:

It's a bad cover version of a classic song. :(
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2019, 04:53:36 PM »
WARCRAFT 2 REMASTERED РЕЛИЗ - YouTube

Were you speaking about it?
It's dark saga I think
Yes, that's their project, you find it in russian!
Yes, that is wargus, not a war2, i think they called it warcraft 2 for avdertising purposes...
Not so honest name, but that is still a good wargus build to just download and play.

Wargus is well written. It is good programming - but it is bad wc2.

I just played this again and remembered why I've always hated it:

It's a bad cover version of a classic song. :(
Agree with you in general, hehe.

At the same time i think somebody can improve that "cover version": fix some strange game behavior, make it more similar to original, so that would be better to play.
I think wargus can find it's place: for example for mobile devices:
You can play campaign or single game or w/e or your ipad/android device for the road: somewhere on train or in plane. It requires to adapt it to touchscreen then. War2 have no source code and don't think it's possible to port it to mobiles.
At the same time i don't think there's any reason to use wargus under windows/linux/ios on computers where we can start war2 under wine and it works fine.
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2019, 01:36:22 PM »
Yeah, they say it's not wargus, but has smth from it, it's stratagus or smth....now I think they have problems with blizzard.
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2019, 02:58:45 PM »
played 3 missions human campaign

- no more micro with ships
- ships got more delay after hit to move
- right click isnt working with peons, need to use Attack to attack
- ai units is stupid in w2, but I didnt know its possible make worse ai XD
for example
1.I attack with destroyer vs troll and destroyer and if i use A click in ground he will focus troll.. wtf
2. I can repair tower and be next to grunt/troll/ogre ai will ignore my peon just focus tower
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2019, 03:27:21 PM »
Yeah, they say it's not wargus, but has smth from it, it's stratagus or smth....now I think they have problems with blizzard.
Yes, they use exactly the wargus scripts for gameplay. I tried last stratagus+wargus from github - gameplay is absolutely similar. I don't know if they fixed something from stratagus or wargus: their project is not opensource, they used previous version of stratagus (2.3, and last version is 2.4.2), they don't tell what exactly they changed in wargus scripts and they don't have plans to make the gameplay closer to original war2.
As i understand, they work 99% on graphics only.
But it's still the easiest way to look to current wargus/stratagus.
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2019, 06:41:48 AM »
And they said that we contacted them, but not in the best way...
And they said their goal is not multiplayer but just to make the new generation to see how was the old good war2.... Sad but good luck to them anyway, I wrote about our server on all their videos, had some replies and questions, sent them to our forum, maybe some new players will come.
Anyway good luck to them, anything about war 2 is good for all of us.
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2019, 02:37:48 PM »
Looks like we need to fix lua scripts for wargus ourselves if we want to get better wargus, closer to war2.
"Remasterers" don't care, wargus developer don't care.

Is anybody experienced in lua here who want to help?
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2019, 02:14:50 AM »
my balls are heiver that n war2 hahha poor shits
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Re: RELEASE: WARCRAFT II: TIDES OF DARKNESS REMASTERED [wargus]
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2019, 02:23:20 AM »
you fucked