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Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« on: March 26, 2019, 01:31:50 PM »
Balancing humans? It wouldn’t even take long to modify the .exe file, it has already been cracked.  I am wondering why it hasn’t been done. Are you against patches? Do you only like orcs? I really don’t understand. And if anyone states that on even faster/fastest that humans are balanced, we would have to have a separate discussion.

Just makes no sense.
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2019, 01:53:06 PM »
dont touch balance thx
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2019, 02:23:36 PM »
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2019, 02:57:09 PM »
Okay arch, only play humans then.
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2019, 04:39:50 PM »
You could make a good case that humans are stronger on Water maps.
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2019, 05:42:27 PM »
The only thing that needs to be patched/balanced are those fucking ballistas misfiring
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2019, 07:08:24 PM »
The only thing that needs to be patched/balanced are those fucking ballistas misfiring

this would be a nice thing to patch.
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2019, 07:11:47 PM »
Yeah the 8 pro gow players that pick orc say the game is balanced. ;)
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2019, 02:51:27 AM »
Yeah the 8 pro gow players that pick orc say the game is balanced. ;)
And? Cause you want pick human we should rebalance game cause all players know Lust is op?
Its possible to win
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2019, 04:59:56 AM »
Playtesting and getting everyone to agree on a set of mods would be much harder than the mods themselves.

I'm sorry I never finished my LiveMod project, I think that would be a good approach to the issue. It lets map designers add a set of mods to an individual pud file. Everyone needs to be running the LiveMod program, but the mods are loaded from the pud file so everyone gets the same mods and they are only applied for that game, then reset afterwards.

The alpha test worked fine. It's just a bunch of time I don't really have to get a finished version done, and then it might be hard to convince people to d/l and run LiveMod. Would be a good thing to add to the next CE release.

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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2019, 06:10:09 AM »
Playtesting and getting everyone to agree on a set of mods would be much harder than the mods themselves.

I'm sorry I never finished my LiveMod project, I think that would be a good approach to the issue. It lets map designers add a set of mods to an individual pud file. Everyone needs to be running the LiveMod program, but the mods are loaded from the pud file so everyone gets the same mods and they are only applied for that game, then reset afterwards.

The alpha test worked fine. It's just a bunch of time I don't really have to get a finished version done, and then it might be hard to convince people to d/l and run LiveMod. Would be a good thing to add to the next CE release.



Yeah about that I'm adding it too war2usa client. Can we encrypt one of the config files. There is some stuff I dont want taken I spent hours reversing out of war2.
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2019, 06:13:43 AM »
dudes i got it..warcraft 2 randomizer! or not thinking.... but it would be a web page that spit out a random generated spells .exe and cant duplicate spells so every spell isnt lust and u just guess your race lol and have to buy pretty much ever spell and see what it is..ah we can dream

i dont think the casual user likes memory programs ,lots of people think ru version of war2 is a virus or something.

but then again lamb proggy would be great a text box and it generates a name for the order of spells cat123 and people type it in boom spells set.

or it reads and writes it to a custom randomizer  pud it makes to a selected map!
there you go.... blizz on holyv ! death coil on knights you will never know! poly morph at the cost of slow/lust..

people want op,it may or it may not :D
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2019, 07:38:56 AM »
Gryphons cost @ 1500 gold would probably balance the game.  Would probably be the most reasonable  change without breaking the game code.
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Re: Is the community as a whole not in favor of..
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2019, 11:05:29 AM »
Balancing humans? It wouldn’t even take long to modify the .exe file, it has already been cracked.  I am wondering why it hasn’t been done. Are you against patches? Do you only like orcs? I really don’t understand. And if anyone states that on even faster/fastest that humans are balanced, we would have to have a separate discussion.

Just makes no sense.

You havent played a real humans player yet.  Look up Dugz,  he's probably the last of the humans players that still plays.  Humans are the better Water race as well as the better control race.  Orcs are simply better at brute force which is FAR easier to play than control.  Think of orcs like the "White Weenie" decks of Magic The gathering and Humans as the Control Blue decks.  One takes brains,  the other doesnt.  Humans will ALWAYS win if they are played by players of equal skill in the respected races because control always wins in War2 but it's not as easy as it sounds.

And a gryphon even at 500g would still be to expensive to use as a unit like a grunt in the same situations.  Just ignore the air units all together and your game skill will improve 80% just from ignoring those HIGHLY situation units.  They are the correct cost for the situations they need to be used in already,  so no changes to the air units really needs to be made.  They cost a lot because you're not suppose to have an entire army of them.