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Which is more of a hack

a bar that shows how far along peons are in the chopping process
9 (75%)
Keyboard modifications such as -  changing the p key to q so its closer to your left hand, or w/e else you cando
3 (25%)

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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2019, 04:14:54 PM »

Why not to change one key to another?
There's 7 languages now, 5 optionally different hotkeys.
If you want some kind of of custom keyboard - do it!
I think so.


100% THIS. DIFF KEYS FOR DIFF LANGUAGES MAKE ANY KEY MODIFICATIONS NOT A HAK
I BELIEVE MESSIAH HAD A CUSTOM HOTKEY UTILITY FOR W2. I ALSO STARTED SIMILAR PROJECT BUT GOT BORED HALFWAY TRU.
QWE ASD ZXC HOTKEYS DIDNT RLY SUIT ME
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2019, 04:19:31 PM »
There's 7 languages now, 5 optionally different hotkeys.
This has always been the thing. People grew up using different versions of War2 with different hotkeys that they got used to.  Hotkey has never been standard for everyone

You talk about a game in 32 bit created in 1995, time have change and every game allow you to customize your hotkeys because they dont want to alterate the real skills player for money.

Do you understand that part where money dont do skills?

If someone have money to buy a keyboard wich allow you to get better then the game itself allow you to be and someone dont have that money, then it's a big probleme for the true skillz rating.

I have no probleme with the fact that peoples can switch hotkeys for what they want untill everyone can do it by the game itself.

I got a probleme with the fact that some people can afford those privilege and some other else cant.
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2019, 04:22:29 PM »
Once again, you can use this on ANY keyboard, but some keyboards come with software to do it for you.

https://www.autohotkey.com/

FREE FOR EVERYONE.
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2019, 04:30:54 PM »

Why not to change one key to another?
There's 7 languages now, 5 optionally different hotkeys.
If you want some kind of of custom keyboard - do it!
I think so.


100% THIS. DIFF KEYS FOR DIFF LANGUAGES MAKE ANY KEY MODIFICATIONS NOT A HAK
I BELIEVE MESSIAH HAD A CUSTOM HOTKEY UTILITY FOR W2. I ALSO STARTED SIMILAR PROJECT BUT GOT BORED HALFWAY TRU.
QWE ASD ZXC HOTKEYS DIDNT RLY SUIT ME
his hotkey tool had a sexy lady picture on it
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2019, 04:33:34 PM »
I think they're pretty equivalent in that they're both potentially giving the player an unfair advantage. One is an actual hack and the other is a hardware modification.

I'm curious what constitutes a macro hack? Double click for example gives a very clear advantage. Using 1 button to perform 2 actions... most seem ok with that. Are they ok with designating the #1 key (ctrl+ 1 + O).. so if you were to hotkey your barracks 1,2,3,4 you would just have to type those numbers and an ogre would auto create?
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2019, 04:38:25 PM »
I'm curious what constitutes a macro hack? Double click for example gives a very clear advantage. Using 1 button to perform 2 actions... most seem ok with that. Are they ok with designating the #1 key (ctrl+ 1 + O).. so if you were to hotkey your barracks 1,2,3,4 you would just have to type those numbers and an ogre would auto create?
IF ZELYA'S ACTION TRACKER WAS MADE AVAILABLE, THEN WE COULD DETECT THE FILTHY DOUBLECLICKERS WITH 100% CERTAINTY
THEN SUM KIND OF POLICY COULD BE ENFORCED EVEN AGAINST THAT
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2019, 04:39:23 PM »
Why is it so big a deal with chop bars. It won't win player's game because he sent peon to gold who started chopping tree first. At chop farms it's pretty useless because good players have their building order and it won't help new player to make better build placement.
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2019, 04:44:55 PM »
Once again, you can use this on ANY keyboard, but some keyboards come with software to do it for you.

https://www.autohotkey.com/

FREE FOR EVERYONE.

It dont modify Warcraft II, it modify my entire windows, no thank you.
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2019, 04:45:08 PM »
It could definitely win/lose games in some situations.. low resources it would have a very real purpose. Chop farms.. or maybe a game where 2 players played for an extremely long time.. killed most of each other's units/buildings and each player is left with very minimal resources and units.

There have been plenty of games I know I've lost simply because other was using double click. The game was so close, but that 1 less action they had to perform that takes a fraction of a second to complete gave them the winning edge.
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2019, 04:49:37 PM »
Why is it so big a deal with chop bars. It won't win player's game because he sent peon to gold who started chopping tree first. At chop farms it's pretty useless because good players have their building order and it won't help new player to make better build placement.

Dont try to explain something so much advanced to a couple of b players, let them keep counting there chop while we lust and they still hold counting chops. Lol
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2019, 04:52:20 PM »
And only opinions i saw that chop bars are huge advantage on chop farms from people who barely play chop...
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2019, 04:54:11 PM »
Dont try to explain something so much advanced to a couple of b players, let them keep counting there chop while we lust and they still hold counting chops. Lol

8-2 nox, 8-2.

not just a couple of b players anymore, newb.
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2019, 05:00:00 PM »
Dont try to explain something so much advanced to a couple of b players, let them keep counting there chop while we lust and they still hold counting chops. Lol

8-2 nox, 8-2.

not just a couple of b players anymore, newb.

Wtf is 8-2, what that even mean.
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Re: Which is more of a hack ?
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2019, 05:02:52 PM »
Who is zeyla?feature?