« Sent to: Equinox on: September 26, 2016
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Sorry, have been afk in this weekend, just returned...
True your right, but being a good players will make you understand other clients are not only a hacking issue but also a latency issue, what your always forgeting, by knowing exactly what is the latency issue, it will be a long time ago you we will already have close thhose others clients.
QuoteI just dont understand since 2 years why you dont want to close those other clients, what is the probleme with that, can you just told me why you cant close them, we both know it took you 2 minutes by the control pannel of your adminship... Why cant you denied those acces?
Well, i know what is warlatency, i've been one who debugged the original utility and included it into combat patchers/loaders.
I didn't check how warlatency works on 18.104.22.168, need to check that, but maybe you right, you talked about that years ago.
I plan to limit other clients when i finish my antihack system, temporary solution for now is to look into status page and make sure antihack is applied to all the players in your game. Antihack is on => war2combat => 22.214.171.124
If i enable versioncheck now, i'll get many support requests with war2 not allowing some connections for some unusual reasons. And probably some lost newbies who will think the server is down and just leave.
Quotebut it need a world wide name, it can be WAR2COMMUNAUTY.COM, since it's not included any country.
Maybe i'm a little biassed about "ru", as soon as i'm russian, i don't want people to think Ru is evil. But another reason is ru belongs to known people who keep it in years. Of course, we can ask someone to let us take the domain war2.us or war2.com or to use burnt's domains like war2combat or war2server belongs to us, but i'm not sure that will be so useful for community as you talk.
QuoteI cant argue that, if you told me so, then ill hope its true, but your time probleme its a fact from long time ago, and you need to fix that, this server need someone who can take final decision at any moment.
I agree and i'd be happy to find adequate admin who can at least help me with my things or maybe even replace me.
Unfortunately i don't see such admins now: Tupac gives good help in support requests, looks at the server security and also makes interesting things in war2 research. Mouse supports the site and the server. Others fight against spammers and keep the server order. Maybe their job is not perfect every time, but we have what we have. They make their job in general.
QuoteEz.. I have never get the tool i needed for all of that, like the acces for the war2ru website and making my own promotion on it without to w8 on lazy admin, like having a staff to help me on it, like having the support of everyone.. All of what i need was in the pain, all of what i did was against peoples who take me as a competition. My website was not even something on what i want to really work. It was a way to show at your admins they are lazy, and making a website of forum can took 2 days, not 2 month... I have never make website for any other reason, just to show they are lazy. And it work great, 1 month later we had a new forum? NO?
Well, i see, that's sad when you have no normal access to the site you plan to promote. Maybe the best you can do is to make your own site on your own hosting (as you declared in your new thread: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2526.0.html
). If it will be useful and you will not promote it as something against current team, we will be glad to officially include it as a part of the whole war2ru project.
As mousey, who wanted to be a part of war2.ru admin team. First of all she made beautiful war2.ru site, then we made a forum together with her, and the same she didn't got into conflict with other admins. So she became a very good admins here. Of course some people in our community hates her, but that doesn't mean she is a bad admin.
I know that technically making the forum is 1-2 days, not 2 months, but the main question here is how to make sure people will join it. We checked the new forum in few weeks to make sure our configuration is ok, i also talked to axolotl to cooperate with him with this new forum. I hoped on his support to not loose the occult's content and community. That was much more important than to just run the engine.
Another important task is to find compromise between all the admins, otherwise they'd just leave our team, and we can't let leople just leave.
QuoteMy maps is not even arguable, everyone was playing them ask at anybody for The Amazing wood, fight for the middle, cliff hanger nox version, BloodyLands.
Streaming is personal firstly, but yeah i did alot of promo with war2ru.
I actually didn't see even 1 game on that maps (90% of games are GOW and chop, others are some more classic, archers, bgh or w/e). Anyways, i appreciate yours and others forces for war2 game and war2 commuinty.
I didn't watch your streams (no time), but i beleive streaming is an important thing for war2 promotion.
QuoteTrue i talkshit alot against others admins, the probleme is i was not like that before, ive been here for 10 years mores, did you ever seen me like that before i know about the hacking issue with other clients?Ive try to do the right thing and nobody have never listen me, acting like if i was crazy, lightbringer is the main source of our problemes, by over abuse of his power and banning me for my own free speech. By telling at everyone i was crazy and there was no hacking or latency issue with other clients cuz he build them and know what he said... Telling to peoples i was on burn out and just paranoid.
It was not the case.. How do you feel when you give so much of your time, passion, knowlege, creations while other lazy admins talkshit about you.
This guy have never love me since europe server 2000 cuz he was already suspect of hacking at that time, we are both french and we talk personal sometime, but he dont take that personal and mix evrything with warcraft II like banning me when thats nothing to do with the probleme.
This guy have never been neutral, he smurf himself and insult other peoples and after cry like a little bitch because tk told the truth about his smurf.
Do you realize you iL no other person then you, have made a thread to talktrash against tk because he told the truth about the fact lightbringer smurf peoples while he know everything on other.
Yes, i don't remember any events of talkshit from you against admins before that situation when you explored that 126.96.36.199 is vulnerable to maphack. Then you demanded to close the client. I thought about that and decided that will not be a good solution. Ligthbringer supported me, other admins too, and then you tuned against us and began that talkshit.
I feel your talkshit very harmful for our community, but i don't think banning you will be much better.
We discussed that between admins from time to time and one or another of us offered to let you stay as is.
I don't know about others, i just ignored your messages in last 2 years, because you make too many posts and (almost) all of them consist of harrasments against our admin team without any positive sence. No interest to waste my time for reading that.
QuoteDo you realize you iL no other person then you, have made a thread to talktrash against tk because he told the truth about the fact lightbringer smurf peoples while he know everything on other.
Yes, i remember that, Lightbringer stopped his admin job (for several months) after conflict with you, then he created another account to run away rasist attacks against him and told about that new account to 3-4 his friends, asking to not share his new account to others.
I looked for him, he stopped his admin activity in these months as i remember. He asked to remove his admin, but i didn't, because i've been happy to see him back any time.
And tk just suddenly discovered that private information with no reason. That's why i feel that tk's action as betrayal.
QuoteWhat kind of admin is that, not hate, we speak truth.... So yes i dont like this guy at all because he is an hypocrite and liar... For blid it,s easy, i think he is a good person, but i just he is lazy as fuck, hes doing absolutly nothing, the only he do here is talking about nba and politics... Why did he is admin?? he should just be a forum moderator, because this is what he is....
I personally like lightbringer point of view, our admin team talk together before making decisions. I like Lb's arguments, i'm not 100% agree with his decisions, but his arguments looks reasonable. I can make mistakes same as every other persons, so i prefer to discuss my ideas to others before to implement them. Lightbringer is one of these people.
I don't know what happened between you and him since europe server 2000, but he talked nothing bad against you in last 2 years (after that conflict) as i remember.
Let me know if i missed something. I'd say he just ignoring your offencing posts same as me. And i'm sure he will do the same for future. In spite of you attack him in many posts.
QuoteAnf for all the talkshit i do, im sorry, its not what i want, i just want this server to get better and bigger, and thats the only way i am understand and the thing move and you know it.
That looks like the most important thing about communication between people and community.
I understand that you want good for the server and community. That's why you talk shit to people. You expect that people read your shit against them and... they will change themselves and become good?
That is very popular behavior and it never succeeds. Can you remember any moments when talking shit about people will attract them to you or will let them change themselves?
100 of 100 you will not reach your puproses that way. They will answer your the same talkshit, then will ignore you and then they will just turn you out from their community.
If you want to help to community, make something positive, that will help the community. Make your things as an addition to things already working, explain why your things are better and useful for people who always used anything else.
Don't fight against existing team, otherwise you give them the only choice: to crash themselves (that they will never do) or to remove you.
I didn't look into last events happened in these weekend, but looks like you got in confict with tora or blid or mouse, so they gave you a warning...
So, what would you do with them being admin? What will you do with other members of community who disagree with your opinion?
I'm admin here for years and i can confirm that there are many discords between every 2 members even for obvious (as i think) questions.
If you want to be a leader in community, you have to find compromises with people who disagree with you, not to insult them, otherwise they will leave.
I see my main task is to save as many people as i can. Tupca is proud and he and don't accept unfair (as he think) warnings against him. You are proud and don't want unfair warnings.
How you plan to act on the place of current admins? You give someone an icon - another player will be angry for unfair icon against you and leave. You remove an icon - that player will be angry for unfair taking icon away and leave.
Many actions will be pleasant for some people and unpleasant for some others.
I think, turning talkshit to positive activity is mandatory term to begin some positive activity as a community leader. It's not enough, but it's a 1-st step.
QuoteMy probleme with him a being an admin is the fact im sure he use to hacks us for long time, and i just cant work with someone like that, because its against what i fight, i also hate the fact he can know every ip and see whos are the smurf while he smurf peoples, its not fair and its a kind of cheating, i hate this fact and thats 2 of the biggest reason why i hate this guy, my personal probleme with him have nothing to do, if it was the case i will not even think about this guy, but the way he use that power make me sick.
Well, i never caught him cheating, so i have no reason to suspect him of cheating. You can repeat 100 times he is cheater, i can repeat 100 times he is not. So, without proofs it's your assurance against my assurance, nothing more.
At least, for example, if you've been in admin team, i don't see any intersections of yours interests (let's state that you never catch each other, just other cheaters).
That will mean you continue play as is, lb plays as is, and together you help to catch/ban others who uses hacks. Looks reasonable compromise?
QuoteLike i said i dont use that behavior because i want everyone to die, i use that behavior because its my only way to get understand and make the things move, and yes its also because im mad of being in this position since i should be in a better then this one, and we all know it.
I am willing to do your desire if its really a big probleme for you, like keeping your entire staff there, but we gonna have to made rules and respect it.
I understand your desire to make things move, just looks like things are not being moved this way.
I argee that your ideas could be fresh for our admin team, so i'm ready to try your ideas even if they looks senseless for me. On condition that they don't require some destructive actions, like remove .ru and move to .com. Or to close server for half clients and make them not working. Or to make some activity against legal players.
Positive ideas are always welcomed, at least to discuss.