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Title: [solved]Windows 10 thanks Aqrit!
Post by: Delete mine too on July 30, 2015, 06:11:00 PM
Not sure where this thread belongs.

Installed Windows 10 last night. Tonight I will try with war2 all versions and software normally used. I will update this thread with fixes, and known errors.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 30, 2015, 07:03:09 PM
Did you upgrade from 7 or 8?  Drivers from old ver compatible in 10?


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Delete mine too on July 30, 2015, 07:38:14 PM
8.1 windows upgraded to 10.

I think my sound drivers need to be rechecked. And maybe graphics too. I did have to disable my touch screen. I experienced a crash with the voice, and cpu talking to me on an i5....

Do not use any compatibility options they will cause war2 to crash. Colors are perfect for me. Battle.net is still messed up no icons, text overlaying... It feels just like win 8 errors. Like I said when I did the beta.

We'll I heard there is a fix not out yet but it breaks ss. I want involved in this project.

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 30, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
They give you a new product key once upgrading?


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Delete mine too on July 30, 2015, 09:02:16 PM
Nothing just upgraded.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 30, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
I'll probably wait til SP1


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: shesycompany on August 01, 2015, 11:47:19 AM
im staying with vm's, oracle works great and a prog called bs player has a option to make it go to 640 and then run full screen walla.

next move for me is back to linux.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Quaaka on August 12, 2015, 02:13:48 PM
I just upgraded from Window 7 and cannot see the text in all boxes from login to game setup and can only see the messages when someone sends a message.  I set up a game (by default) and it seemed to be ok.  Just having problems at the menu sections and am running the latest version of WCII.
Title: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 12, 2015, 02:37:33 PM
...latest version of WCII.

It's "War2", don't use wc2 or wcii...Blid will go emo [emoji58]

Source:

IT'S NOT "WC2" YOU INGRATES.  IT'S "WAR2"

IF YOU WEREN'T NEWBIES YOU WOULD KNOW THAT.

THE GAME LITERALLY USED TO INSTALL INTO THE DIRECTORY C:\WAR2.  AND YOU'D HAVE TO GO INTO DOS AND INTO C:\WAR2 AND RUN WAR2.EXE OR MAYBE WAR2.BAT TO PLAY.

"WC2" IS A NEOLOGISM USED BY NEWCOMERS WHO ARE APING THE "WC3" ABBREVIATION THAT TOOK HOLD FOR WARCRAFT 3 AFTER WAR2 HAD ALREADY BEEN CALLED "WAR2" FOR A DECADE.

OH, AND, YOU KNOW, THE GAME ITSELF IS HOSTED ON SERVER.WAR2.RU.  AND THIS IS FORUM.WAR2.RU.  DUH.

IL PLEASE CREATE A FILTER THAT AUTOMATICALLY CENSORS ALL USES OF THE LETTERS "WC2" INTO "WAR2."  PEOPLE NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT THE FREAKING GAME IS CALLED.  WE MUST NOT CAVE IN TO FORCES OF MODERN DEGENERACY.

Besides that...windows 10 worth upgrading to? Just little concerned some of my in-house dev tools won't work it [emoji52]...Seems like we just got everything stable on 7 lol.

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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: shesycompany on August 12, 2015, 09:53:55 PM
ryu look up top ^^ at news!!  ::) :o
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mousEtopher on August 13, 2015, 11:15:48 AM
I just upgraded from Window 7 and cannot see the text in all boxes from login to game setup and can only see the messages when someone sends a message.  I set up a game (by default) and it seemed to be ok.  Just having problems at the menu sections and am running the latest version of WCII.

Display glitches in the chat lobby are a problem in Win8 too with no known solution. Unfortunately there's probably no fix for what you're seeing either.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 13, 2015, 12:14:14 PM
I just upgraded from Window 7 and cannot see the text in all boxes from login to game setup and can only see the messages when someone sends a message.  I set up a game (by default) and it seemed to be ok.  Just having problems at the menu sections and am running the latest version of WCII.

Display glitches in the chat lobby are a problem in Win8 too with no known solution. Unfortunately there's probably no fix for what you're seeing either.

How would we go about updating the actual client to solve this issue(s)? Windows 10 is going to be the prominent OS in the future for all new PCs...we should start exploring ideas in updating the client for 10 now to avoid future problems [emoji31]


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mousEtopher on August 17, 2015, 05:51:08 PM
Not sure, I wonder if the problem happens with War2BNE? I know there are some display differences between BNE and Combat, e.g. lobby screenshots actually work with BNE. Maybe this is a Combat-specific problem.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 18, 2015, 11:23:19 AM
The big question, as always, is how Windows10 reacts with Starcraft.  Bw still uses the same pvpgn type lobby as War2 does, right?  So we can look to how the (much bigger) bw community is reacting and responding to this for guidance.

...latest version of WCII.

It's "War2", don't use wc2 or wcii...Blid will go emo [emoji58]

Source:

IT'S NOT "WC2" YOU INGRATES.  IT'S "WAR2"

IF YOU WEREN'T NEWBIES YOU WOULD KNOW THAT.

THE GAME LITERALLY USED TO INSTALL INTO THE DIRECTORY C:\WAR2.  AND YOU'D HAVE TO GO INTO DOS AND INTO C:\WAR2 AND RUN WAR2.EXE OR MAYBE WAR2.BAT TO PLAY.

"WC2" IS A NEOLOGISM USED BY NEWCOMERS WHO ARE APING THE "WC3" ABBREVIATION THAT TOOK HOLD FOR WARCRAFT 3 AFTER WAR2 HAD ALREADY BEEN CALLED "WAR2" FOR A DECADE.

OH, AND, YOU KNOW, THE GAME ITSELF IS HOSTED ON SERVER.WAR2.RU.  AND THIS IS FORUM.WAR2.RU.  DUH.

IL PLEASE CREATE A FILTER THAT AUTOMATICALLY CENSORS ALL USES OF THE LETTERS "WC2" INTO "WAR2."  PEOPLE NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT THE FREAKING GAME IS CALLED.  WE MUST NOT CAVE IN TO FORCES OF MODERN DEGENERACY.
Lol
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 18, 2015, 11:30:23 AM
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24665324 (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24665324)

See a familiar name there?  xboi209!

Anyway, sounds like it is improved some if you run in windowed mode and this mcalauncher.  I know some people have got that going for War2 (windowed mode i mean) and we should probably focus on making it a bit more mainstream. 

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/414636-mca64launcher (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/414636-mca64launcher)

More xboi.  We are lucky he has an interest in War2.  i sent him a PM on teamliquid to inquire about if that launcher can be used for War2.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Delete mine too on August 18, 2015, 12:25:38 PM
The DLL needs corrected and I'm sure it would work perfect with war2. But for right now it's broken even in window mode.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Winchester on August 30, 2015, 09:56:39 PM
Heres what I get when I installed the latest version of war2combat on my Windows 10. Can't see chat, can't see games when I try join, can't see anything when I try make games even. The single player works fine though. Previous version was working just fine.

(http://i60.tinypic.com/21nir5t.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 30, 2015, 10:26:39 PM
Wtf, your other version worked though?  What version was it?  Do you think it would work again?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Winchester on August 30, 2015, 10:45:07 PM
previous version was that one that Lightbringer released. I think that was 3.15 maybe
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Winchester on August 30, 2015, 11:18:56 PM
your other version worked though?  What version was it?  Do you think it would work again?

I just redownloaded that 3.15 version now, and it's working again just fine now.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 31, 2015, 02:43:20 AM
Interesting...that 3.15 runs without problems.


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Title: Windows 10
Post by: IustinLZep on November 04, 2015, 11:17:33 AM
Hi Exinferis
 
In custom install in Windows 7 you can either choose full format or quick format, choose full format takes a bit longer but its the better choice
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on November 16, 2015, 12:18:21 PM
Delete file ddraw.ini from your install folder and try again....
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: tk[as] on November 16, 2015, 12:40:58 PM
I'm not extremely tech savvy

 How hard would it be to remove win 8 or 10 and install an older version of windows like 7 or vista.. if its fairly simple would it cost $$$ for the older versions?
Title: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on November 16, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
I'm not extremely tech savvy

 How hard would it be to remove win 8 or 10 and install an older version of windows like 7 or vista.. if its fairly simple would it cost $$$ for the older versions?

No it wouldn't cost more, if you are buying a PC, there are some suppliers that still ship New Windows computers with Wind 7 Professional if you request it.

I have seen this service provided more for desktops than laptops tho....

What are you exactly looking for? I can try to link you some stuff.


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: tk[as] on November 16, 2015, 03:51:48 PM
I want this laptop because it's cheap and can do everything i want it to do.. I had a similar laptop a couple years ago with almost identical specs and loved it.

They're charging $429 for windows 10 and $557 for windows 8 ... idgi

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite-C55-C5241-Laptop-Intel/dp/B010SBAJDS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1447706955&sr=8-3&keywords=i5+laptop (http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite-C55-C5241-Laptop-Intel/dp/B010SBAJDS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1447706955&sr=8-3&keywords=i5+laptop)

here's an extremely detailed and long review on it ...

~Highlights~
Spoiler
!!!NOW!!! Updates on Tech Support (in addition to other updates)
***** 802.11n band wifi- no 802.11ac except via an adapter via the USB 3.0 port
***** Bluetooth readily detects and connects to speakers, headsets, headphones, keyboards and other Bluetooth devices
***** RAM CAN be expanded to 16 GB, contrary to Toshiba saying the max is 8 GB (see review for RAM specs), This determination was based on the specs (I used Speccy to do the analysis) of the Motherboard, CPU, Chip set, & BIOS. (and yes, I HAVE upgraded the RAM and include a link to the brand and model I purchased for it)
***** All Windows 7 & 8 computers are eligible for the Windows 10 upgrade
***** Decent speed, handles multitasking well, including during videoconferencing
***** Function keys can be locked into their alternate settings (This is the default)
***** Windows Easy Transfer makes it easy to transfer files, but won't always transfer settings- had to transfer my email and settings manually. HOWEVER, is not available with Windows 10. If you are simply doing the upgrade, though, your applications and settings will automatically be incorporated, and I've yet to find any of my old applications to be nonfunctional in Windows 10.
***** Numeric keypad & Directional keys. Some laptops have this, some don't. Toshiba has it. Convenient.
***** Peeling off the thin green film around the edges reduces sharpness, but this can be further reduced by making "bumpers" with silicone or rubber tape
***** Battery can be replaced by simply unscrewing the two screws that secure it, quite obvious to the discerning eye and also explained in the manual.
*****Should you have Windows 10 questions, feel free to ask.

~~*UPDATES*~~ have been added to include information about the Windows 10 upgrade, as well as instructions for restoring standard function mode for the Function keys (the default is the special function mode, and Toshiba isn't very clear about how to turn that off). 6/29/15- I have now updated the review with info on the RAM upgrade, which I just performed.

As I come from a family of engineers, both hardware and software, and myself a currently working in data management, I will be reviewing this system from that background, and my rating will be based on my analysis of the hardware, reliability, functionality, and upgradeability.

First of all, no nit picking. We all know what OS this comes with before making the purchase. Likewise the description is clear about the general hardware specs, but avoids some of the specifics. If you don't like Windows 8, it's no reason to bash the machine, especially as you can upgrade to Windows 10 for free come August. The reality is, you won't find much better than this within the price range this is set at. I have now upgraded to Windows 10, and after a couple of minor hiccups (errors in the update log- did searches on them and found fixes, which worked), Windows 10 is now running smoothly.

The Toshiba C55 C5240/41 is a decent mid-range laptop at a reasonable price. While it doesn't come with all of the "bells and whistles," it comes with enough for most purposes. However, as someone heavily into the digital arts, I like to improve things where I can, so I thoroughly researched this system and its maximum performance and upgradeablility. This laptop has now replaced my failing Lenovo G575. I have now used it both at home, and at work, where I'm responsible for data management. It has had zero issues with gaming, and I had no problems multitasking while videoconferencing, something I could never do with the Lenovo or even my Dell, both of which have equivalent RAM but slower processors.

This system can be purchased with Windows 8.1 OR Windows 10. It's important to keep in mind, though, that ALL computers (and phones and tablets) running Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 are ready and eligible for a free upgrade to Windows 10 for one year after the July 29, 2015 release.

Battery:
The battery appears to be very robust, with a charge lasting in excess of 5 hours. Should anything go wrong with the battery, removal and replacement involves the removal of two screws, rather than the flip of a switch or push of a button most systems have.

RAM (upgradeability):
The system comes with 8GB RAM at 1600Mhz, as 2x4GB (1600Mhz, Speccy shows each running at a frequency of 800Mhz, but that value gets doubled) SODIMM's. While this is adequate for most applications, I prefer having as much as my system can handle for my digital arts activities, especially when working with 3D animation. The manual states simply that Toshiba won't be responsible for anything that happens by swapping out the RAM. Calling Toshiba was no better. They told me that the system is rated for a maximum of 8GB RAM, which is what it comes with. That's rather ridiculous, as most systems these days come with the ability to add additional RAM. However, I'm not one to take them at their word. I opened up the back and could easily see that the motherboard and processor could handle up to 16 GB RAM. That left the question of the BIOS. Using Piriform Speccy, I looked up the bios and contacted the company responsible for it. The Bios can indeed handle the 16GB RAM I had already determined the motherboard and processor to be rated for. ****UPDATE 6/29/15**** I have now replaced the two 4GB SODIMM's with two 8GB ones. All is functioning smoothly, the BIOS is recognizing the additional RAM, and the system is purring like a happy kitten. The RAM I put in is this: G.Skill Ripjaws Series Laptop Memory F3-1600C9D-16GRSL 16GB (2 x 8G) DDR3 SO-DIMM 1.35v Dual-channel

I decided to go with CL9 instead of CL11 as it tends to be a smidgen faster. After replacing the original DIMMs, the boot sequence initially takes you into the BIOS settings, which will reset to default. I only needed to re-establish proper date and time settings. However, the BIOS settings also allow the user to set additional security, including passwords for booting, BIOS access, and administrative use. The initial boot sequence after adding the RAM was quite slow, which I attribute to the BIOS updating according to the new RAM specs. After the initial boot sequence, subsequent boot speed has returned to normal.

The system is ASTONISHINGLY fast now, with virtually zero wait for applications to open, and zero noticeable performance issues when multitasking, including multitasking during a videoconference (i.e. screen share, browsing, Powerpoint slide show, etc all at once).

Bear in mind, however, that if you should require the system to be serviced by Toshiba, it will need to be restored to its original hardware configuration.

Wifi:
The Toshiba C55 is limited to 802.11n band by its built-in wifi adapter. For those of us with faster routers that use the AC band, an adapter will be a desirable accessory, and fortunately this system has (1) USB 3.0 port that can handle such adapters according to their full potential.

***** A note of caution. Some adapters, like the 802.11ac adapter by Startech, use Realtek network drivers. While these say they are Windows 8 compatible, the driver has an inherent flaw that will cause many Windows 8.1 systems (this is OS associated, not related to the actual computer) to go into the blue screen of death, requiring one to boot in safe mode (with networking) and 1. disable the driver, 2. uninstall the driver, and 3. completely delete the driver. 802.11ac USB 3.0 adapters by Netgear and TP-Link don't use the flawed driver, and I've experienced no issues with them. My preferred adapter is the TP-LINK Archer T4UH AC1200 High Gain Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter, 2.4Ghz 300Mbps/5Ghz 867Mbps, USB 3.0, WPS Button, Supports Windows 8.1/8/7/XP. Unlink the typical adapters that stick out the side of your system, making them vulnerable to breakage at the USB interface, the T4UH is a stand alone that connects via a cable. It is extremely sturdy and has two antennae. I've experienced zero issues with it and a strong signal from anywhere in my house.

In addition, not all adapters are Windows 10 compatible yet. My TP-LINK Archer T4UH AC1200 High Gain Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter has no Windows 10 drivers available, requiring me to utilize only the internal 802.11n wifi adapter until TP-Link comes out with a compatible driver. There may be issues with other products that have not been pre-configured for Windows 10 as well. While there are a number of things I don't like about Windows 10, this is so far the only major problem I've experienced.

USB and SD:
With one USB 3.0 port and two USB 2.0 ports, there is no lack of availability to tack on additional accessories such as a Blu-Ray-RW drive, faster Wifi adapters, and other items. Many people will want to get a USB 3.0 Hub to expand the availability of the USB 3.0, which is 5x faster than USB 2.0.

There is one SD slot, and it has thus far been quite fast and functioned perfectly with SD cards up to 128GB (I don't have any bigger ones).

HDMI / VGA:
This system has no VGA port. Should you wish to use a separate VGA monitor, you will need to use a HDMI to VGA adapter. The HDMI port on my system has thus far functioned perfectly, with no delays or loss of quality in either video or audio up to 1080p. I've yet to try it with a 4K setup. It has had zero difficulty with my 7.1 bluetooth & HDMI surround system, although the best I was able to test it with was a blu-ray with 6.1 audio, using my external Blu-Ray RW drive.

Audio:
Considering the size of the speakers, the audio of this system is reasonable. The internal microphone works well during the videoconferences I've been in, with no echo or sounding distant. Still, for recordings of my singing and such, I'll still be using my Samson C01U USB mic, and for listening to music, you will prefer using either external speakers or headphones. There is only one 3.5mm connection available for a headphone jack or microphone, but for higher fidelity 5.1 or 7.1 headsets, USB is always going to be your preferred option anyway. Bluetooth headsets also readily connect with excellent audio.

DVD-RW:
As noted above, this system does not have a Blu-Ray drive, much less a Blu-Ray RW drive. The DVD-RW multi drive, however, has functioned flawlessly with DVD's, CD's, as well as both reading and writing to DVD-RW disks.

Graphics / Screen:
Resolution for this system is limited to 1366 x 768, so it is not a 1080P system. When watching 1080P, you will do better by utilizing the HDMI port with a 1080P monitor or television. The system does include options for a 3D display. Color appears to be true, and I have noted no bleeding or artifacts when using HD media.

Fan:
The fan for this system is reasonably quiet, and seems to be quite efficient, for while the bottom surface of the system gets warm during use, it does not get hot the way my previous laptops have.

Peripherals (keyboard, mouse):
The keyboard of the Satellite C55 is a standard laptop keyboard with one major difference. Depending on personal preference, the default for the function keys can be set to be function OR to their alternate use. However, you cannot set the keys individually. Either all are set to function, or all are set to their alternate setting. Those with mouse issues have likely accidentally hit F5 in its alternate setting, which turns the touch mouse on or off. Also, the keyboard is 100% integrated into the laptop deck, which may improve durability, but also may make replacement more complicated.

***FUNCTION KEYS... Restoring F1-F12 to Standard Settings
The default setting for the function keys is in their "special" function mode. The manual isn't very clear about how to turn this off, should you prefer that to be reversed. Fixing this is pretty simple. Click on your Windows Start button to bring up your Apps by category. Scroll over to the Toshiba category. Click on "System Settings." Then click "Keyboard." Once there, you can use the drop down to set the keys to "Standard F1-F12 Mode," as opposed to "Special Function Mode." Select standard mode and click "ok." Your function keys will now work normally, without the need to press FN to utilize the function modes. Pressing FN with the keys will now activate their "special" setting.

The touchpad mouse seems to have high sensitivity, with all of the functions one might desire, including touch scrolling, tap select, border functions, fingertip expand and contract, and the ability to customize the functions for different actions. As with the majority of systems, one can also lock out individual functions. My preference is to lock out the tap select, preferring instead to use the left button to make my selections.

Security:
When setting the system up, you can improve security by requiring two passwords, one to boot, and a second one to log into your Windows account. It comes with McAfee LiveSafe pre-installed, although the registration appears to be dated to December 2014 instead of the date in which I first booted the system up. That's a bit annoying, as it means I've lost about half of the first year of registration for my virus protection and firewall. I have noted that while scanning, McAfee tends to utilize a significant percentage of available memory... over 30%. That does slow the system down quite a lot, and you may prefer a more streamlined application. I've tested McAfee, Norton, Kaspersky, ESET, AVG, Vipre, Windows Defender, and Zone Alarm on it. McAffee, ESET, and Norton hog the CPU, using 35-67% of the CPU when NOT performing scheduled scans. Kaspersky and AVG can likewise slow things significantly due to RAM utilization during scheduled scans. Vipre is among the leanest platforms, yet is better than any of those at blocking malware. I used Defender for a week and had to clear over 800 files and registry entries from malware that got through. I'm currently testing Zone Alarm on it, and an extremely pleased with performance of the laptop and the software. A number of these do have Game mode, which minimizes the security functions in favor of processor speed and limiting RAM utilization. Malwarebytes is a great supplement to any security platform.

From the applications I've tested, Vipre and Zone Alarm have been the ones I've been happiest with, with Zone Alarm currently edging out Vipre with my feature and performance preferences (but overall not any better than Vipre, and with Vipre you can purchase a lifetime license for not a whole lot more than an annual license).

Case:
While the molding for the entire package has very defined edges, I do not find it to be flimsy in the areas where most systems have their weak points, in particular the hinges for the screen. These are thick and robust, with smooth movement when opening and closing the laptop. It won't be difficult to install bumpers to deal with the sharp edges and corners via the use of silicone or rubber tape, or silicone caulk.

Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: tk[as] on November 16, 2015, 03:52:10 PM
*** More on Windows 10: If you are upgrading on the same system from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, your applications and settings will automatically be incorporated into the upgraded OS. If you are transferring between computers, Windows 10 DOES NOT have Windows Easy Transfer anymore. HOWEVER, there are a number of available applications that are capable of doing the transfer instead, and many of them are more reliable than Windows Easy Transfer ever was.

Spoiler
Other:
The CPU for this system is rated for speeds up to 2.58 Ghz, which is adequately fast for most digital arts applications, including gaming. The system appears to be fairly streamlined, without a lot of excess applications pre-installed. Bear in mind, though, that Toshiba makes accessing the BIOS rather tricky, which is an obstacle to overclocking.

You also have access to OneDrive, a cloud storage utility, should you prefer to save your documents in a place other than the hard drive. It also offers a convenient location for backing things up without the clutter of external media.

***UPDATE***
As of May 31, an icon identical to the Windows start icon has appeared on the right side of the taskbar. If you click it, you can now reserve your free Windows 10 upgrade, which is expected to be released in August.

***NEW UPDATE*** Problem encountered (Hardware) and Tech Support Experience
June 3: On June 3rd, approximately after one month of use, my laptop began locking up. While the bottom surface never got remotely hot, any time the system was warmed up, it would hang to the point where the only option to turn it off was to either remove the battery or to hold the power button down to force a shutdown. Once this would happen a first time,it would then hang even more frequently, including during the boot process There were other symptoms as well, but the detail would be too lengthy of this review. What I will say is that wrapping my computer up to protect against condensation and placing it in my chest freezer for 30 minutes to an hour would allow me to boot without problems... until it warmed back up, at which point it would freeze up again.
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Having diagnosed the problem, I contacted Toshiba about warranty repair. I did not tell them I am a reviewer, as I did not wish to taint the experience and expectations for others who may require warranty repair. For shipping, I chose the option for a pre-paid box and label, approximately $30, which would be cheaper than the $40 it would have cost me to ship it myself, even with my boyfriend's FedEx discount. Toshiba has a nifty web tool that keeps the customer informed about where their system is in the repair process, and I monitored that closely. I also included a detailed letter with my laptop, explaining exactly what happened, and asking that they call me prior to shipping it back so that the repair process could be discussed, leaving no questions unanswered. However; they never called.

Overall, my tech support experience would rate about average. It wasn't stellar, but it could have been worse. In spite of the problem having already been identified, they went through the usual hassles of doing a factory reset, seeing if the problem would be replicated afterward (it did, of course), and doing my best to back up my critical data by freezing the system in the freezer, as I use the system both at home and at work at the online high school where I work tech support. Finally getting past that, I paid for my box & shipping and shipped the system to their repair center in Indiana. Daily, I followed the repair progress until I noted that it was on its way back to me. Upon return, I booted the system without difficulty and at present am reinstalling all of my applications, including Adobe Master Collection CS6, Corel Painter 2015, Cyberlink PhotoDirector 6 Ultimate, Corel Paintshop Pro X6, Corel Videostudio X6, MS Office, etc (I have a lot of multimedia software as I also teach digital arts). So far it has remained stable. Should that change, I will update this review.

I have yet to drop a star, as the system truly is a powerhouse for a system of its price range. You aren't going to find a system with this processor, amount of RAM, or capabilities for any less than this, unless it's purchased used. Complaints about keyboards not being back-lit or not having a touch screen are ridiculous, for again, you won't find anything comparable within its price range. Software-wise, it has the essentials, but not a lot of bloatware utilizing excess CPU power or RAM.

This isn't a gaming computer per se, but it does plenty well as a gaming platform, provided you adjust resolution to 1366x768 rather than the preferred 1920x1080 (1080p). The processor can be clocked to run faster via the bios and is rated for speeds up to 2.7Ghz (it is 2.2 Ghz as is). swapping the 8GB RAM with 16GB RAM also causes a significant improvement.

Conclusion:
The Toshiba C55 C5240 may not be a high-end gaming laptop, but it is quite capable for most uses, including most gaming. Even though Toshiba discourages upgrades to internal components such as RAM, I have determined that you don't have to be limited to the 8GB RAM it comes with. Just be sure that you are matching the DIMM type (CL11 SODIMM), number of pins (204), and bandwidth (PC3-12800 - 1600 Mhz, although Speccy detection shows each running at a frequency of 800 Mhz, which you double). While Windows 8 is not my preferred OS, I do not find that to be an issue to complain about, given that we all know what OS is installed prior to purchase- it's the hardware, compatibility, and upgradeability that matters, along with reliability and tech support. The 1TB HDD is plenty large for most uses, and not difficult to partition, should you wish to create a partition for backups. The system comes with security pre-installed, but it is not difficult to switch to something else, should you prefer a different security platform. I would recommend this system for just about all levels of user, although the most advanced users will prefer to either upgrade what already exists or purchase something that's much higher end. The only reason I can think of behind Toshiba's discouragement toward upgrading the RAM is that they would prefer a person to purchase an entirely new system, should they want something better. This is not necessary, as two 8GB DDR3L DIMMs run around $100 (less if on sale). I'll still give this 5 stars, but it's borderline, based on how unhelpful Toshiba was when I called to ask about expanding the RAM, and the less than stellar technical support I received for my hardware issue.

Overall, be you a student, working in an office, a gamer, or involved with network communications, this laptop is a great deal and has a lot to offer at a very low price. Toshiba DOES hold up to their warranty terms, albeit sometimes grudgingly... but I didn't have to pull the reviewer card to get what I needed done taken care of, so in that respect they are at least honest. The C55-C5240 is a nice little machine I feel quite comfortable recommending to just about anyone for most uses.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on November 17, 2015, 12:06:38 AM
Delete file ddraw.ini from your install folder and try again....

Anybody try that yet?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on November 17, 2015, 01:05:12 AM
I'll try it soon, tried upgrading to win 10 and upgrade wizard crashed my whole cpu [emoji24]. Spent a whole day doing recovery. I'll try again soon tho...[emoji14]


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: tk[as] on November 17, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
Delete file ddraw.ini from your install folder and try again....

Anybody try that yet?

i cant find the file

i did a search on my entire PC  for ddraw.ini
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mousEtopher on November 17, 2015, 09:07:42 AM
ddraw.dll ?

(https://i.imgur.com/2vqT52Z.png)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on November 17, 2015, 11:15:52 AM
INGORE MY PREVIOUS POST ON DELETING DDRAW.INI. It was in my war2 folder for God knows what testing. I am enquiring on what could have caused it....
Anyone with a Win10 can you please backup War2Patch.mpq and replace with the version attached and report back?
Thanks
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: iL on November 19, 2015, 08:34:26 PM
On win10 make sure you have NO files ddraw.dll and ddraw.ini exist in war2 directory where you start war2 from.

ddraw is a wrapper that fixes an error in ddraw for win7 only!
Not useful but causes problems in win8 and win10.

When you install combat 4.01 make sure ddraw checkbox is disabled.
It should be disabled by default for any OS except win7, but you can enable it, that is strongly not recommended.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Paper_Boy on November 23, 2015, 05:43:10 AM
I hear in Windows 10 they install adds in solitaire and to disable them you have to pay a monthly subscription fee.  That is the most fucked up thing i've ever heard, taking advantage of retards and old people that don't know any better. What ever happened to buying software and owning it. Trying to switch everything to a subscription model screams desperation with so many better free alternatives out there.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mousEtopher on November 23, 2015, 07:49:11 AM
That is.. downright dystopian.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: shesycompany on November 27, 2015, 03:57:17 PM
windows 2000 was winblows last real one ..taking advantage of people was the next move.i really dont get the 8's and 10's and why you would want them.

people still play solitare :o worst card game ever!i suggest u delete, free up the kb's and do a
 "52 card pickup in flash" alternative.
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on November 27, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
Windows 10 is great.


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: iL on December 04, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
My test for that:
The latest version of War2combat has display glitches ([url]https://i.imgur.com/qTKsFBo.png[/url]) in Windows 10. Here are two things you can try:

  • When installing War2combat on Windows 10 make sure you UNCHECK the ddraw checkbox in the installer. It should be disabled by default for any OS except Win7. There should be NO files called "ddraw.dll" or "ddraw.ini" in the /war2combat/ directory. (ddraw is a wrapper that fixes an error in ddraw for win7 only! It causes problems in win8 and win10.)

    ([url]https://i.imgur.com/WqVsWVx.png[/url])

  • If that doesn't work you can install the previous version of War2combat (3.15), located here ([url]https://www.dropbox.com/s/cfs0twdp9ea1j1m/War2Combat315.exe[/url]).



Please try these things before you make a post about Win10 issues!



I just tried to install new clean windows 10 and war2 to it. That is what i see:

1. DDraw compat checkbox is disabled by default (that is correct behaviour).
(http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1269.0;attach=390)
2. I try to check the DDraw compat checkbox and install combat. Then i install it again to the same folder.
2.1. Checkbox is checked by default now. (options being kept from previous installation).
2.2. If i uncheck the DDraw compat checkbox before repeatedly installation, it will NOT delete these files (ddraw.dll and aqrit.cfg). That looks like a definite bug.

So, my plans for next version:
1. should do: to delete these files if you uncheck the checkbox during repeated installaion.
2. need to think about: don't remember last choice for this checkbox, always set is depending on windows version.
The question is about other checkboxes: all the checkboxes are being kept from previous installation, should i keep them all except ddraw?
3. even more agressive behaviour: to show gray (non-clickable) checkbox for directdraw (depend on windows version). I have no idea why you will need that ddraw fix under any win except 7.
At the same time i don't understand why anybody switch this checkbox on under win 8 or win 10. To click everything just in case or what?

4. i also can add functionality to delete ddraw for non-win7 computer into loader. You try to start war2ploader, it asks if you want to delete ddraw that is not compatible with your win version or continue as is.

Here are 3 more screenshots:
how it works with ddraw.dll:
(http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1269.0;attach=392)

And without it (that is how it should work). Here's no any known solutions to show icons in chat:
(http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1269.0;attach=394)

(http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1269.0;attach=396)
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mousEtopher on December 04, 2015, 11:59:11 AM
3. even more agressive behaviour: to show gray (non-clickable) checkbox for directdraw (depend on windows version). I have no idea why you will need that ddraw fix under any win except 7.

That's probably best. Or at least update the description to explicitly state "Win7 ONLY, not for use with Win8 & 10", the wording is a little ambiguous

At the same time i don't understand why anybody switch this checkbox on under win 8 or win 10. To click everything just in case or what?

Win10 is a free upgrade from Win7 so maybe the people having the problem already had war2 installed, then did the upgrade to Win10, thus the ddraw files are present. If these people are doing fresh installations of war2 on Win10 then I don't know -- it doesn't explain why so many Win8 users have the problem either.

Title: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 04, 2015, 12:03:34 PM
I know I did have that problem after upgrading from 7 to 10. Maybe put some instructions on forum when upgrading from 7 to fully uninstall and reinstall war2combat.


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 04, 2015, 12:05:44 PM
I found combat works on Windows 10 Home and Pro, but crashes on Enterprise for some reason [emoji54].


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 04, 2015, 12:13:44 PM
And without it (that is how it should work). Here's no any known solutions to show icons in chat:
That's not too important, but is that because of the file format of the icons?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: iL on December 04, 2015, 12:15:59 PM
I found combat works on Windows 10 Home and Pro, but crashes on Enterprise for some reason [emoji54].
That's interesting!
Just empty default win ent? Did you try it on different hardware? Also did you try home and pro on the same hardware?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: iL on December 04, 2015, 12:18:23 PM
That's not too important, but is that because of the file format of the icons?
It's because of different drawing methods for bnet chat, bnet icons and everything else. Something becomes broken in new windows...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 04, 2015, 12:45:42 PM

I found combat works on Windows 10 Home and Pro, but crashes on Enterprise for some reason [emoji54].
That's interesting!
Just empty default win ent? Did you try it on different hardware? Also did you try home and pro on the same hardware?

Yes, clean install from MSDN. Same hardware on all versions. I doubt many users would even have access to the Enterprise edition thought...so shouldn't be a major concern [emoji14]


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: iL on December 04, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Yes, clean install from MSDN. Same hardware on all versions. I doubt many users would even have access to the Enterprise edition thought...so shouldn't be a major concern [emoji14]
Well, the main task for me is to catch the crash. I haven't been able to turn war2 to crash. So, good howto is welcomed.

Did you install win 10 ent on virtual machine or real hardware? Did you install any drivers for your hardware? Did you try war2 with and without drivers?
I can easily try to install win10ent onto vmware esx, should it help me to get war2 crashed?
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 04, 2015, 04:44:18 PM

Yes, clean install from MSDN. Same hardware on all versions. I doubt many users would even have access to the Enterprise edition thought...so shouldn't be a major concern [emoji14]
Well, the main task for me is to catch the crash. I haven't been able to turn war2 to crash. So, good howto is welcomed.

Did you install win 10 ent on virtual machine or real hardware? Did you install any drivers for your hardware? Did you try war2 with and without drivers?
I can easily try to install win10ent onto vmware esx, should it help me to get war2 crashed?

No, it was installed on separate partitioned hard drive. Drivers were all the same, installed directly by MS as PC booted from Windows Install. I didn't manually install any new drivers or add any new hardware.


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Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: iL on December 07, 2015, 04:12:46 AM
I found combat works on Windows 10 Home and Pro, but crashes on Enterprise for some reason [emoji54].
Well, i just installed win 10 enterprise on vmware host, combat 4.01 works fine :(

P.S: check your DEP configuration on the system where it crashes: should be enabled for just main services. Note that if you switch it to enable for all the software, war2 should be added to exclusions (combat installer 4.01 adds it during installation process).
So, war2 can crash if you switch dep on for everything and then remove war2 from exclusions. Or install old combat version (not sure, when i added DEP exclusions, 3.05 or later)

P.P.S: if your DEP is ok and war2 still crashes, would be great to let me get a teamviewer access to that host or w/e...
Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 07, 2015, 04:14:12 AM

I found combat works on Windows 10 Home and Pro, but crashes on Enterprise for some reason [emoji54].
Well, i just installed win 10 enterprise on vmware host, combat 4.01 works fine :(

P.S: check your DEP configuration on the system where it crashes: should be enabled for just main services. Note that if you switch it to enable for all the software, war2 should be added to exclusions (combat installer 4.01 adds it during installation process).
So, war2 can crash if you switch dep on for everything and then remove war2 from exclusions.

P.P.S: if your DEP is ok and war2 still crashes, would be great to let me get a teamviewer access to that host or w/e...

Cool, I'll look into it.

I haven't had time to dig into the logs yet.


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