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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: ~ToRa~ on June 13, 2016, 02:21:46 PM
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Hi guys,
I've been giving some thought as to how to make ladder prizes and tournament prizes more accessible to the average user. Currently the only one that has cashed in on the prize ladder is swagier which seems unacceptable. Furthermore every tournament I've hosted up to now have been the same 3-5 users winning every time.
So I've decided to make a few changes around the server in order to boost competitiveness and hopefully get more people playing.
Firstly I will be redistributing the Master icons to the top players on the server.
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=2241.new#new (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=2241.new#new)
In the near future I will be hosting tournaments that will exclude anyone who holds a Master icon.( I will also host Masters only tournaments.)
Here is the list of users who will receive a Master icon,
u8t3io3p, braviet, Shotgun, Startale, Alf-Attack, BHC-Jesk, Medivh, Viruz, 00Joe, 00Logan, and Knitterhemd.
If you feel as though your name is missing (I purposefully left out swift) please pm me or leave a comment bellow.
As I said in the other thread, if you didn't receive a Master icon don't worry I haven't forgotten about you.
By taking the top players and putting them to the side. We will make it easier for regular player to compete in their own tournaments and their own ladder tiers. Thus making it easier for more players to win prizes and icons on the server.
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Hi guys,
I've been giving some thought as to how to make ladder prizes and tournament prizes more accessible to the average user. Currently the only one that has cashed in on the prize ladder is swagier which seems unacceptable. Furthermore every tournament I've hosted up to now have been the same 3-5 users winning every time.
So I've decided to make a few changes around the server in order to boost competitiveness and hopefully get more people playing.
Firstly I will be redistributing the Master icons to the top players on the server.
[url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=2241.new#new[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=2241.new#new[/url])
In the near future I will be hosting tournaments that will exclude anyone who holds a Master icon.( I will also host Masters only tournaments.)
Here is the list of users who will receive a Master icon,
u8t3io3p, braviet, Shotgun, Startale, Alf-Attack, BHC-Jesk, Medivh, Viruz, 00Joe, 00Logan, and Knitterhemd.
If you feel as though your name is missing (I purposefully left out swift) please pm me or leave a comment bellow.
As I said in the other thread, if you didn't receive a Master icon don't worry I haven't forgotten about you.
By taking the top players and putting them to the side. We will make it easier for regular player to compete in their own tournaments and their own ladder tiers. Thus making it easier for more players to win prizes and icons on the server.
Anyone in that list who not playing with HA regulary should not have this icon, starting by shotgun.
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Shotgun actually has been playing more as of late.
http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=Shotgun (http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=Shotgun)
The only one that I do kinda feel like removing is maybe Viruz since I don't know if he plans to continue playing regularly or if he plans another vacation again.
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Shotgun actually has been playing more as of late.
[url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=Shotgun[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=Shotgun[/url])
The only one that I do kinda feel like removing is maybe Viruz since I don't know if he plans to continue playing regularly or if he plans another vacation again.
If someone is master, then there no reason to dont give them what they deserve, even if is not playing alot, now it's only depending on what your basing yourself to said if someone is more master then other.
Is that the top 10, is that the last victory on tournament, why Viruz is considering a master right now, and please dont tell me his past because we dont live in past anymore... What did he do to deserve that master icon?
And whos the fuck is logan btw, master??? really?
And shotgun should literally not be in that list, no AH, no favor, period, stop hacking fucking dumb newbe.
Sweet boy.
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Logan is Lux
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Ok and why he is considering master hes not even in top 40.
Did he won recent tournament? or something?
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Being a "master" and gaining a Master tag means you have reached a level where the most players dont stand a chance against you. I play this game every day, I know who are the best players on the server.( EQ currently u stand 0% chance of winning a series against any of the players I'm giving a master tag to.)
At the moment we are trying to revamp the way prize payout and tournaments are done around the server. By excluding players who are known to be unbeatable from future tournaments we will make games more competitive for more users.
Currently the way Masters are being selected is thru mine and the other admin's judgement.
I would like to also like to add, we are making another icon that will replace prestige of the master icon.
Once again if anyone feels like a mistake has been made, and their name should be added to the masters list please msg me or leave a comment.
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Being a "master" and gaining a Master tag means you have reached a level where the most players dont stand a chance against you. I play this game every day, I know who are the best players on the server.( EQ currently u stand 0% chance of winning a series against any of the players I'm giving a master tag to.)
At the moment we are trying to revamp the way prize payout and tournaments are done around the server. By excluding players who are known to be unbeatable from future tournaments we will make games more competitive for more users.
Currently the way Masters are being selected is thru mine and the other admin's judgement.
I would like to also like to add, we are making another icon that will replace prestige of the master icon.
Once again if anyone feels like a mistake has been made, and their name should be added to the masters list please msg me or leave a comment.
fuck your stupid judgement, allowed peoples who dont support AH and peoples who dint accomplish nothing dont represent a master of warcraft II.
Your judgement is comming staight from your ass.
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Classic troll bait.
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No troll at all just the truth, dont be mad loser.
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WHAT ABOUT ME!?
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Your not allowed to be a master player because tora got the master judgment.
Hes so special!
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WHAT ABOUT ME!?
Not sure exactly what Tora has in mind but I bet if someone wins the tier 2 tournaments enough they can move up to master level or something. Earn it.
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whos the fuck is logan btw, master??? really?
someone leagues ahead of you in skill even with your hacks on and him with a resource disadvantage.
And shotgun should literally not be in that list, no AH, no favor, period, stop hacking fucking dumb newbe.
Sweet boy.
Words from the #1 hacker since 2002
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fuck your stupid judgement, allowed peoples who dont support AH and peoples who dint accomplish nothing dont represent a master of warcraft II.
So yourself right? You never supported the AH when Il was talking about making one, infact, you attacked him constantly while he was developing it!
dont be mad loser.
After seeing your not on the list because you're a shitty person and a shitty player (You need hacks to win), you think everyone else is mad, lol. You really do need to self reflect a bit. What was it you said yesterday? "Go outside super trash?" Perhaps you should do just that, and by that i don't mean stealing money and gambling it.
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WHAT ABOUT ME!?
Yamon if u were to series 2 people from the master list bo5, back to back do u do you think you can win?
Blid you are more or less right, when someone wins the tier 2 tournment 2-3 times in a row they will become a master.
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WHAT ABOUT ME!?
Not sure exactly what Tora has in mind but I bet if someone wins the tier 2 tournaments enough they can move up to master level or something. Earn it.
i'm better than half the players who have one. but i'm not going to complain. easy money sounds good to me ;)
just saying, not giving me one just proves how out of touch of an admin/player you are.
i'm the only player who has 2 accounts in the top 15, one of them has been inactive for almost a month, and i made a new account and got #6 on the ladder, higher than half the "master" tier list, and almost beat u8t in a series. And I do it all with the least amount of time spent playing than ANYONE in the competitive realm. How about that?
in fact not giving me one is so ludicrous that it makes me think you are biased towards me. Which would make sense because I was the only one who called you out on your shitty ladder that you think you can throw money at to improve. Funny how I told you everyone about this problem MONTHS ago and mousey comes up with this tier idea a few days ago. So good job in quickly fixing that problem. LOL JK. How about you keep your feelings out of your service to the server? And just like u8t won every prize for the #1 ladder spot, i'm going to win every "tier 2 tournament" with ease. Man if only everything you touched didn't turn to complete shit. Wouldn't that be nice?
Biased just like blid was when he had to give me a REAL master tag that actually had meaning to it, something that half of those players have never and will never EARN.
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Here's the list of players Tora chose:
u8t3io3p, braviet, Shotgun, Startale, Alf-Attack, BHC-Jesk, Medivh, Viruz, 00Joe, 00Logan, and Knitterhemd
You might be better than Knitterhemd. Who else? Medivh perhaps
You are not in the same league as JesK Szwag swift braviet etc
Anyway, it's a judgement call, Tora can always bump people down and move you up, don't be so sensitive
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Yamon I hold not personal grudges against you nor am I biased toward you.
SPB has is currently ranked #7 on the ladder and yet I haven't given him one either. Nor have I given one to Sparkz, Paperboy~sol, Donger, etc.
Tell me how does keeping you in the tier 2 turn this whole project to "shit" as you say?
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It may take a few tier 2 tournaments to discern who should have a master tag and who shouldn't honestly.
If yamon ends up just steamrolling everyone he probably should be considered for a master tag.
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Here's the list of players Tora chose:
u8t3io3p, braviet, Shotgun, Startale, Alf-Attack, BHC-Jesk, Medivh, Viruz, 00Joe, 00Logan, and Knitterhemd
You might be better than Knitterhemd. Who else? Medivh perhaps
You are not in the same league as JesK Szwag swift braviet etc
Anyway, it's a judgement call, Tora can always bump people down and move you up, don't be so sensitive
it's all good. nothing like a rage post early in the morning. still i'm extremely underrated and have been forever and probably always will be.
i hope to see BHC-Butcher in the tier 2 tournaments. considering i polymorphed him to death this morning
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Here's the list of players Tora chose:
u8t3io3p, braviet, Shotgun, Startale, Alf-Attack, BHC-Jesk, Medivh, Viruz, 00Joe, 00Logan, and Knitterhemd
You might be better than Knitterhemd. Who else? Medivh perhaps
You are not in the same league as JesK Szwag swift braviet etc
Anyway, it's a judgement call, Tora can always bump people down and move you up, don't be so sensitive
it's all good. nothing like a rage post early in the morning. still i'm extremely underrated and have been forever and probably always will be.
i hope to see BHC-Butcher in the tier 2 tournaments. considering i polymorphed him to death this morning
Flame Shield only next!
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Medivh is not really the same level as the rest of those guys except maybe Knitter.
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I am the only true master, rest are fake
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Your nothing shotgun, your an hacker who use different client for absolute no reason.
There not even australian version of warcraft II, i already check it dude, so why are you playing different client when you surely playing the english one and 4.0 Ru client is already english.
No reason at all except hacking.
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Remember when you told Il to kill himself because he was making the antihack?
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Lol, I don't even know what equinox is talking about, except for the fact he is saying I hack for some reason
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Lol, I don't even know what equinox is talking about, except for the fact he is saying I hack for some reason
Equinox leaves out the part where he's hacked so don't worry, just hacker rage.
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I am the only true master, rest are fake
Well, start recording some of your games so you can make some money.
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I really can't be bothered recording games
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Nobody cares about stream, dont need to listen that guy who certainly dont understand the concept of rules and justice, just use the anti hack like everyone newbe.
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How many gold brain to buy anti hack?
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Dude shut the fuck and told us why your not using anti hack.
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I think when you start the game using the Activated war2combt button it doesnt load anti hack.
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3 more gold i got the mouse
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I think when you start the game using the Activated war2combt button it doesnt load anti hack.
I think you should uninstall your actual dumb version and install the actual one on the website.
Let me help you.
http://en.war2.ru/downloads/ (http://en.war2.ru/downloads/)
the first one, 4.0.1
Its gonna install alone, pretty sweet and easy.
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That's the version I have.
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That's the version I have.
No it's not, desinstall your hackish one.
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Im sad to say you, it is
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selling vision proof gow 5 gold! 8)
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Nobody cares about stream
Nobody cares about your stream you mean.
But at least you haven't tried faking cancer for donations yet like the infamous EmilyisPro. Given your nature though I wouldn't be surprised if you went down this route.
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Hi all, I'm pretty new here so I have no idea who is entitled a matter icon and who is not....
But, giving master icon only under the judgement of one admin is a bit unfair! (Even if I believe the admin was non biased)
I would suggest a very simple solution! The admin sets a number of available master badges (10?) And organizes a small closed tournament with the 20 best! (5 groups of 4) then each 2 first of the 5 groups are the initial masters.
That should resolve it. Also this games should be recorded in order to prove that there was no cheating.
Just an opinion here!
PS: instead of Master tag we could have leagues. I suggest 3 leagues every time a number of the best and a number of the worst move to the next/previous leagues.
This way we can have every"season" a championship.
All these solutions are really cool as an idea but how can you verify that people won't get two accounts?
Just my thoughts
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Its not based solely on my judgment.
I did consult with the other admins before I made the list. Furthermore I'm perfectly open to hearing arguments from players as to why they deserve one
As far as tournaments go, I've hosted numerous tournaments in the past year. Its always been the same 5-6 people winning them.
A lot of people seem to be missing the whole point of giving away master tags to the top players.
What we are trying to do is seperate the top players from the rest of the community, in order to host tournaments and leagues for more average players.
At some point we will probably unveil a new icon or perhaps even redistribute an existing one to all tier 2 players. The same will be done with tier 3, and so on.
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You seem to not understand the points of having rules, your personal judgement or even the personal judgement of other admin, nobody cares, your icons, nobody cares.
What we cares is rules, accurate rules, rules where everyone can reach without having to impress you or other dumb ass admin.
Best player will split themself with rules, dont need you and your personal judgement to split peoples, anyway, fuck you dude.
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Eq why you contribute something instead of criticizing all day.
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Eq why you contribute something instead of criticizing all day.
I contribute dumb ass i told you how to do a great systeme idiot and you keep doing your shitty decisions.
You want to do something brillant.
TOP 1 ladder = Lord
TOP 2 to TOP 10 = Master
No smurf, no other client allowed.
Thats what we call fair, legit, justice, and rules.
Not your dumb ass judgement.
You want icon for your tournament, do your own fucking icons and let the master one alone.
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First of all the ladder has already been proven to be flawed. So your idea is dumb.
Also I think I've gotten enough advice from you, how about you contribute by making a monetary donation to the server. Or maybe try and find someone that can fix the doubles ladder.
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First of all the ladder has already been proven to be flawed. So your idea is dumb.
Also I think I've gotten enough advice from you, how about you contribute by making a monetary donation to the server. Or maybe try and find someone that can fix the doubles ladder.
Fuck you and your dumb stupid donation, i dont need your money and you dont need mine.
Did i ever join any of your tournament, so why are you asking me money.
I use my money where i feel its worth it, not on shitty server leaded by shitty admin who cant take good decision for everyone.
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I use my familys money where i dont get permission first, I feel its worth it,
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You seem to not understand the points of having rules
Neither do you. You've broken every rule there is to be broken in-game and on forums.
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Its not based solely on my judgment.
I did consult with the other admins before I made the list. Furthermore I'm perfectly open to hearing arguments from players as to why they deserve one
As far as tournaments go, I've hosted numerous tournaments in the past year. Its always been the same 5-6 people winning them.
A lot of people seem to be missing the whole point of giving away master tags to the top players.
What we are trying to do is seperate the top players from the rest of the community, in order to host tournaments and leagues for more average players.
At some point we will probably unveil a new icon or perhaps even redistribute an existing one to all tier 2 players. The same will be done with tier 3, and so on.
All these where clear... what is not clear, why you choose N people do separate instead of using a 2-3 division system like in most sports.
You could even get the promotion/demotion system ready.
I would though purpose a 3 divisions for our purposes.
New players / average division / master division.
New players are obviously all that participate for the first time!
Master division can start with all players that have reached 1-4 place in previous tournaments. (Or the people of your judgement)
The rest you keep them in average division.
After each tournament, you promote the X best players from each division to the next! And demote the Y worst to the previous. Y could be 0 and in general we want it to go low.
After a few tournaments you will have your masters division!
The only problem I see to all that is how would you stop someone to fake an identity...
One could have 3 accounts and participate in each division (assuming he/she reached master division)
Anyhow, I'm interested in starting to participate to tournaments and having divisions would make it interesting!