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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: ~ToRa~ on August 21, 2017, 10:56:53 AM

Title: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 21, 2017, 10:56:53 AM
I recently stumbled upon a program that changes keys on a keyboard I tested it and was thinking to change "q" to "o" to make it easier to macro ogres.
But before I do I wanted to know if this is even allowed.

I do know a number of players who are doing it this moment.
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 21, 2017, 10:59:23 AM
doesnt seem like a big deal.  i believe the decision is made for us by some international versions of war2 already having different hot keys than the US version
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 21, 2017, 11:07:32 AM
Well here is the program,

https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com

One can reassign the hotkeys to suit their own preferences.
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Delete mine too on August 21, 2017, 12:33:24 PM
Well here is the program,

https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com

One can reassign the hotkeys to suit their own preferences.
Or you could just edit the file in the mpq....
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 21, 2017, 12:51:31 PM
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Well here is the program,

https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com

One can reassign the hotkeys to suit their own preferences.
Or you could just edit the file in the mpq....


Im bad with comps  how does one do that
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: I hate naggers on August 21, 2017, 01:27:21 PM
allowed since diff language versions have diff hotkeys
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: I hate naggers on August 21, 2017, 01:32:34 PM
lol that link is remapping windows keys
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Delete mine too on August 21, 2017, 07:25:21 PM
lol that link is remapping windows keys
Lol yea thats why I said something :)


And tora the tutorials is in development or support section I've went through this a year ago
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 21, 2017, 07:32:02 PM
lol that link is remapping windows keys
Lol yea thats why I said something :)


And tora the tutorials is in development or support section I've went through this a year ago

U got a better way to change the hotkeys? Can you tell me how to do it?
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: woofy on August 22, 2017, 05:21:59 AM
the question in the thread title is the opposite to the actual poll question
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: I hate naggers on August 22, 2017, 06:24:16 AM
messiah made a nice hotkey changer with some large-boob lady picture
i could totally rock the war3 version of hotkeys (QWE ASD ZXC) if it wasnt for muscle memory combinations such as 0p9p8p.. or 1a2a3a4a5a6a.. ("wtf claw how u attak with all at once")
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Szwagier on August 22, 2017, 07:32:24 AM
the hardest think about new hotkeys is that u need to stop using old hotkeys

"new game"

all players will remember forever bf bb bh  8)
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: eleison on August 23, 2017, 05:18:36 PM
Normally in rts the rule is, one "action" per keypress... One press one peon, no macros...
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 23, 2017, 05:35:18 PM
yeah macros definitely not allowed. but making peons with Q instead of P if someone wants is no biggie
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Ywfn on August 23, 2017, 06:42:19 PM
I've been playing so long with the current hotkeys that I can't imagine remapping them would ever result in measurable improvement.  I suppose if you played a lot you'd get used to new hotkeys.
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Szwagier on August 24, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
ofc ywfn, u need only time to remember them, but probably u still will remember old key, if u know them
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Delete mine too on August 25, 2017, 09:32:05 PM
The remastered StarCraft has built in lobby functions to allow custom hotkeys! All I can say is nice remake!!!
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Szwagier on August 26, 2017, 12:44:20 AM
No its not, u cant change cancel,  i thought they will make like in w3, guess not
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: CuZZo~ on September 04, 2017, 05:10:30 PM
Rebinding a key, so it may be accessed with as much ease an comfort to the gamer as possible, situational to the user.. Is no cheat by any means. If it is available for everyone, it offers no specific advantage to any one single person, but accessibility to all. If anything, to not allow the use of it, is more cheating than actually using it in essence. Simply by the facts, that not everyone has the same size of hands, and thus forcing a base set of key binds, ultimately can be a disadvantage to some, where it could give an advantage to others, with larger hands and longer fingers and such.   :thumbsup:  In all reality, war2 was the "Alpha" or the "Pioneer" if you would.. when they thought giving the option to hotkey, is there if you choose.. But since those days.. Any competitive gamer out there knows, hotkey's are mandatory, not optional.. lol. That being said, pretty much any game out there now with a competitive spirit, Allows customization of keys... and in my opinion, for good reason.
 
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: tk[as] on September 05, 2017, 12:15:53 PM
I know quite a few top players who do it.
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: tk[as] on September 05, 2017, 12:20:08 PM
I also know a player whose skill increase dramatically by doing it (spb)

I'm too lazy to relearn it though. It took me a month to learn how to use space bar
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: shesycompany on September 05, 2017, 06:30:29 PM
tupac is there any way we can put war2bne in it. :(
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: O4L on September 05, 2017, 06:46:23 PM
I think it's been working for ~Tora~ he has had some nice wins lately.
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: I hate naggers on September 06, 2017, 01:28:06 AM
Rebinding a key, so it may be accessed with as much ease an comfort to the gamer as possible, situational to the user.. Is no cheat by any means. If it is available for everyone, it offers no specific advantage to any one single person, but accessibility to all. If anything, to not allow the use of it, is more cheating than actually using it in essence. Simply by the facts, that not everyone has the same size of hands, and thus forcing a base set of key binds, ultimately can be a disadvantage to some, where it could give an advantage to others, with larger hands and longer fingers and such.   :thumbsup:  In all reality, war2 was the "Alpha" or the "Pioneer" if you would.. when they thought giving the option to hotkey, is there if you choose.. But since those days.. Any competitive gamer out there knows, hotkey's are mandatory, not optional.. lol. That being said, pretty much any game out there now with a competitive spirit, Allows customization of keys... and in my opinion, for good reason.
 

well, yes, but the same logic can be applied to selecting more than 9 units at the same time. It is obsolete, they got rid of it, but there are no mechanisms supporting this in war2BNE, just like reassigning hotkeys
it argues with "it offers no specific advantage to any one single person", but of course different hotkeys offer advantages/disadvantages to the player
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: Disgruntled on September 09, 2017, 02:06:03 PM
So... Lets say spb does do it
Also tora looked good today with his new hotkeys

What would we hotkey where?
Lets field some ideas
Title: Re: Is reassigning hotkeys cheating?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 09, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
The only thing i've changed it ogre to "q" and peon to "w".