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Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: iL on June 26, 2015, 05:59:13 AM
(I just got pause for several days before post this to relax myself and to not be emotional.)

Well, i appreciate all good things tk[as] made for our server and our community. For his advertising for our server, for his activity on that way. For some good ideas and suggestions about making the server active. He was really good and active member of community with his own and specific view.

3 days ago i saw that post from him:
i have seen LB ban people because they were bashing muslims... then I have seen LB call people niggers and faggots. Then he made the name Teron-Gorefiend to talk shit on people and use hate speech towards them so it didn't seem so inappropriate coming from his admin name, and nobody else could make fun of him and call him a muslim because nobody knew LB and Teron-Gorefiend were the same person.
I've been wondered if Lb discovered his new account for anyone, i know he had no plans to do it.
When Lb paused his mod activity he created new account to just play and talk as an ordinary user, he also told several friends about that and asked them to not discover his privacy. One of that "friends" was tk[as].

I absolutely have no idea what happened with tk[as] why he suddenly decided to break Lb's privacy, but i absolutely don't know any reason to betray someone who trusted some secret to you when he supposed you to be his friend.
My conception is you can criticize your friend (or your ex-friend) if you disagree with him, but you never should discover any privacies he trusted to you when you have been friends.
Independently of current relations between you.
In this situation tk[as] could say the same (if he have such opinion about Lb) but don't publish new Lb's aka. Sence of his post would not be changed then.

I also have no ideas why tk[as] hates Lb so much. I understand if he hates me and "my own" server, but why Lb?
I also have to say i looked after both Lb's akas and never saw any abuse from his side.

So, my own point of view on this situation with tk[as]:
- i don't want tk[as] to be a part of our team anymore.
It's not about banning him as soon as he didn't break any server rules, but his behaviour looks unacceptable for me.

Also warnings to other members of community:
- Don't trust tk[as], if you confided any information to him you should assume that your information can be leaked if it takes into his head.
- If you shared some of your pages, accounts, rights, etc to tk[as] - stop his access as soon as possible. Or at least make backups. Otherwise you can suddenly lose all the data he have an access to.

P.S: tk[as], if you have anything to explain here, let's do it.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on June 26, 2015, 06:09:12 AM
Well, you have to realize that if LB decided to "play the game as an ordinary user", people from the same game can get his IP and, eventually, reveal his true identity, so it's not a serious "crime".
Also, I have ss of lightbringer posting my IP on public channel, so it's not as 'unacceptable' as one might think

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- i don't want tk[as] to be a part of our team anymore.
this sounds serious, but as far as i know, tk[as] decided to leave the team on his own? He wasn't really performing any duties for months. Wasn't even active that much.
But the statement is fair nonetheless. Reasonable thing to do - don't trust tk[as]!
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Delete mine too on June 26, 2015, 06:25:09 AM
Sucks but all flaws need to remove and it should give opportunity to let someone else take his place. You could always give command groups so people can do tags, or bot removal, etc. It sucks to see another member fall.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 08:20:33 AM
(I just got pause for several days before post this to relax myself and to not be emotional.)

Well, i appreciate all good things tk[as] made for our server and our community. For his advertising for our server, for his activity on that way. For some good ideas and suggestions about making the server active. He was really good and active member of community with his own and specific view.

3 days ago i saw that post from him:
i have seen LB ban people because they were bashing muslims... then I have seen LB call people niggers and faggots. Then he made the name Teron-Gorefiend to talk shit on people and use hate speech towards them so it didn't seem so inappropriate coming from his admin name, and nobody else could make fun of him and call him a muslim because nobody knew LB and Teron-Gorefiend were the same person.
I've been wondered if Lb discovered his new account for anyone, i know he had no plans to do it.
When Lb paused his mod activity he created new account to just play and talk as an ordinary user, he also told several friends about that and asked them to not discover his privacy. One of that "friends" was tk[as].

I absolutely have no idea what happened with tk[as] why he suddenly decided to break Lb's privacy, but i absolutely don't know any reason to betray someone who trusted some secret to you when he supposed you to be his friend.
My conception is you can criticize your friend (or your ex-friend) if you disagree with him, but you never should discover any privacies he trusted to you when you have been friends.
Independently of current relations between you.
In this situation tk[as] could say the same (if he have such opinion about Lb) but don't publish new Lb's aka. Sence of his post would not be changed then.

I also have no ideas why tk[as] hates Lb so much. I understand if he hates me and "my own" server, but why Lb?
I also have to say i looked after both Lb's akas and never saw any abuse from his side.

So, my own point of view on this situation with tk[as]:
- i don't want tk[as] to be a part of our team anymore.
It's not about banning him as soon as he didn't break any server rules, but his behaviour looks unacceptable for me.

Also warnings to other members of community:
- Don't trust tk[as], if you confided any information to him you should assume that your information can be leaked if it takes into his head.
- If you shared some of your pages, accounts, rights, etc to tk[as] - stop his access as soon as possible. Or at least make backups. Otherwise you can suddenly lose all the data he have an access to.

P.S: tk[as], if you have anything to explain here, let's do it.

What about the fact we cant made 2 account on the forum? It's because he is admin if he can overpass the law made 2 accounts and even worst insultes people from secret account when he is admin? Where the punishment for light, tk just said the truth.

And who cares about his privacy when he have acces to all our smurfs and all our ip? Pretty sad to smurf peoples like that when your admin and your suppose to show exemple.

Your totally take out the only admin of your team where community have confident, so yes i trust tk way much more then you or any one of your liar staff, tk do his job right, hes neutral he dint need to hide himself, he assume and he dont lie.

Being crazy and bootk tk off for light because he told us how lightbringer is a dumb fucker who smurf and insult us, now just believe if he can protect him at this point for some stupid reason how he will protect him if he hacks.

It's just look like iL his a slave of the muslim trap.

please just ban yourself and bring light with you.

It's look like you got a boner on light for the last 8 month, so maybe you guys can stand togheter with some candles and choclate never came back and leave us the decent admin tk!

Thank you.
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 09:09:51 AM
I am just not sure why TK is so bitter, as blid would put it...we all have things about the current administration that piss us off or don't agree with but I just don't get why he is raging at everyone...

Also is LB Teron? Is that confirmed?


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 09:16:23 AM
I am just not sure why TK is so bitter...we all have things about the current administration that piss us off or don't agree with but I just don't get why he is raging at everyone...


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Because he is actually the only one who have take time for real the last 10 years, all these admins can brag to be here, but they are not, they are on forum talking nba, using overpower abuse and act like if they work hard when tupac do same job as iL in 3 days when iL took 8 month.

They are liar, lazy and abuse of their power.

Tk have been there for ten years, take cares of forum but also and most importantly take cares of the client everyday, help peoples, explain them, play with them, make videos to learn them, paid from his own pocket for the server.. Tk is actually our best admin no matter what they said, and i understand tk if he dont want to work with peoples who destroy everything he build. Lightbringer is a baby, going to cry at iL everytime he get caught of accused of something and his little slave iL do everything he want.

And yes Teron is lb like lb is an hacker, this dude is a garbage, smurf and insult us and cry to il after because he get caught, nice admins we have let me tell you.

Actually iL just proof one more time everything i said since 8 month, he is retard and cant take good decision.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 09:25:01 AM

I am just not sure why TK is so bitter...we all have things about the current administration that piss us off or don't agree with but I just don't get why he is raging at everyone...


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Because he is actually the only one who have take time for real the last 10 years, all these admins can brag to be here, but they are not, they are on forum talking nba, using overpower abuse and act like if they work hard when tupac do same job as iL in 3 days when iL took 8 month.

They are liar, lazy and abuse of their power.

Tk have been there for ten years, take cares of forum but also and most importantly take cares of the client everyday, help peoples, explain them, play with them, make videos to learn them, paid from his own pocket for the server.. Tk is actually our best admin no matter what they said, and i understand tk if he dont want to work with peoples who destroy everything he build. Lightbringer is a baby, going to cry at iL everytime he get caught of accused of something and his little slave iL do everything he want.

And yes Teron is lb like lb is an hacker, this dude is a garbage, smurf and insult us and cry to il after because he get caught, nice admins we have let me tell you.

Actually iL just proof everything i said since 8 month, he is retard and cant take good decision.

TK was a great admin why I was so dumbfounded that he would quit his position. Yes the current administration does have many problems stemming from their lackluster, they get nothing done without iL. Lol talking about NBA? Admins are human I am pretty sure he has other interests besides this game...just wish they would do more to help this server like TK did.

Also I don't understand how these Admins expect the players to get along with each other when there is so much internal conflict between themselves...this is ridiculous the amount they fight. I wonder what fights they have had on Admins only boards...


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 09:31:04 AM

I am just not sure why TK is so bitter...we all have things about the current administration that piss us off or don't agree with but I just don't get why he is raging at everyone...


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Because he is actually the only one who have take time for real the last 10 years, all these admins can brag to be here, but they are not, they are on forum talking nba, using overpower abuse and act like if they work hard when tupac do same job as iL in 3 days when iL took 8 month.

They are liar, lazy and abuse of their power.

Tk have been there for ten years, take cares of forum but also and most importantly take cares of the client everyday, help peoples, explain them, play with them, make videos to learn them, paid from his own pocket for the server.. Tk is actually our best admin no matter what they said, and i understand tk if he dont want to work with peoples who destroy everything he build. Lightbringer is a baby, going to cry at iL everytime he get caught of accused of something and his little slave iL do everything he want.

And yes Teron is lb like lb is an hacker, this dude is a garbage, smurf and insult us and cry to il after because he get caught, nice admins we have let me tell you.

Actually iL just proof everything i said since 8 month, he is retard and cant take good decision.

TK was a great admin why I was so dumbfounded that he would quit his position. Yes the current administration does have many problems stemming from their lackluster, they get nothing done without iL. Lol talking about NBA? Admins are human I am pretty sure he has other interests besides this game...just wish they would do more to help this server like TK did.

Also I don't understand how these Admins expect the players to get along with each other when there is so much internal conflict between themselves...this is ridiculous the amount they fight. I wonder what fights they have had on Admins only boards...


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Because dude, people are not gonna be slave all their life because evil ryu and claw ask it... I mean he work ten years dude, ten years at doing the way THEY WANT... Maybe tk is just tire to work and paid for something going in other direction he see.

And your right peoples are human and probably do something else, but in blid case it's not even a question of doing something else, it's just a question of doing totally nothing for the server, seriously tell me what blid is doing here?? I mean, he was decent before when he was a figure of autority, he was not playing, he was not doing nothing important, but at least he had the right to said something and admin will respect it.. But now... He cant even said what he want, even moustopher over pass his word and make him useless, anyway, he is not even more neutral, he total ignore peoples post, another useless admin.

Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 09:49:07 AM
Actually i want to said sorry at Tk.. I dont know if im a part of what happen today, but i think tk open his eyes 8 month ago when he realize everything of what i was saying was true, but anyhow if it's the case or not, im sorry to see you gettin treat like a garbage we throw after ten years by the people who suppose to support you, but still, your totally the best admin we had in ten years, you put work of 5 admins and love of 10.

They can take out the lumberjack of the wood but they cant get the wood out of the lumberjack.

You made alot for this server but your even more a man to keep standing for what you believe and tell us the truth, thank you tk.

Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 09:52:50 AM
I never asked anyone to be a slave...Just contribute.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
I never asked anyone to be a slave...Just contribute.


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By saying the same stupid thing over and over you make peoples slaves, tk already contribute and already proof everything he have to do.

Your manipulation mean nothing to me.

Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 10:04:01 AM

I never asked anyone to be a slave...Just contribute.


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By saying the same stupid thing over and over you make peoples slaves, tk already contribute and already proof everything he have to do.

Your manipulation mean nothing to me.

It's funny that your feeble mind thinks that I was trying to manipulate you lol...I already said that TK has contributed a lot, I just don't agree with his quick departure because the server needs people like him.

I am just sadden by this circus we having going on here...i miss talking to him and LB on the server.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 10:05:43 AM

I never asked anyone to be a slave...Just contribute.


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By saying the same stupid thing over and over you make peoples slaves, tk already contribute and already proof everything he have to do.

Your manipulation mean nothing to me.

It's funny that your feeble mind thinks that I was trying to manipulate you lol...I already said that TK has contributed a lot, I just don't agree with his quick departure because the server needs people like him.

I am just sadden by this circus we having going on here...i miss talking to him and LB on the server.


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Exactly what i said, you prefere him to be a slave community because we need him but your not even a man to support him, your like a baby who want everything at same time, you have to take choice, are you standing with people who contribute and have honor for real are youre standing with the lazy one who lie to us everyday.

Your not gonna have both, be a man.
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 10:14:49 AM
Lol? Find a quote that says I wanted him to be a slave to the community. Contributing doesn't make you a slave, makes you an actual member of society. Which is the least I could say for yourself...your just a failed trolled who embraces himself over old records and a non existent legacy...your pathetic.

lol be a man? EQ when you actually get friends you'll understand why it's hard to even loose one.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 10:16:16 AM
Lol? Find a quote that says I wanted him to be a slave to the community. Contributing doesn't make you a slave, makes you an actual member of society. Which is the least I could say for yourself...your just a failed trolled who embraces himself over old records and a non existent legacy...your pathetic.


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Do you know what society do when they are not happy about something? They manifest, and right now, it's exactly what alot of peoples do, they manifest, dont ask them to contribute on something they dont approved, because it's became slave treatment.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 10:20:17 AM

Lol? Find a quote that says I wanted him to be a slave to the community. Contributing doesn't make you a slave, makes you an actual member of society. Which is the least I could say for yourself...your just a failed trolled who embraces himself over old records and a non existent legacy...your pathetic.


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Do you know what society do when they are not even happy about something? They manifest, and right now, it's exactly what alot of people do, manifest, dont ask them to contribute on something they dont approved.

I never said they had to contribute to anything they didn't support, but I believe everyone can contribute to overall advancement of this server whether it be through coding or advertising...I mean if you oppose that type of contributions why even be here?

I dislike the current administration and how they have been running things but that's not gonna stop me from doing things to advance this server. Not even you EQ [emoji39]


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 10:23:03 AM

Lol? Find a quote that says I wanted him to be a slave to the community. Contributing doesn't make you a slave, makes you an actual member of society. Which is the least I could say for yourself...your just a failed trolled who embraces himself over old records and a non existent legacy...your pathetic.


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Do you know what society do when they are not even happy about something? They manifest, and right now, it's exactly what alot of people do, manifest, dont ask them to contribute on something they dont approved.

I never said they had to contribute to anything they didn't support, but I believe everyone can contribute to overall advancement of this server whether it be through coding or advertising...I mean if you oppose that type of contributions why even be here?

I dislike the current administration and how they have been running things but that's not gonna stop me from doing things to advance this server. Not even you EQ [emoji39]


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Do you have probleme to read what tk said? Actually he dint approve the half of the staff, so dont ask him to work with this staff, period dude, there no anymore contribution, tk have a vision and nobody in that staff respect his vision, so why he will keep to contribute, i totally understand him.

Actually i dont even know why blid is still contribute too, blid is like the new bitch of that staff, paid the server while they spit on him, BIG lol.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 10:27:07 AM
I never heard anything about any rule that you can only have one forums account.  Did I miss that one?
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 10:28:26 AM
I never heard anything about any rule that you can only have one forums account.  Did I miss that one?

If i remember when iL made the forum he was trying to implant alot of different way to make people only have 1 account, i also remember we had to use a password or something like that to proof we never made account before to create a new one.

He was also talking about e-mail cd key thing or whatever all the slowtard projet he have.

But it's obvious if you dont know since kobe bryant is your hottest subject of the year.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: iL on June 26, 2015, 10:47:10 AM
Well, you have to realize that if LB decided to "play the game as an ordinary user", people from the same game can get his IP and, eventually, reveal his true identity, so it's not a serious "crime".
Yes, they can, but they didn't until tk[as] discover him.
Maybe Lb have been quite smart to not use both accounts at the same time or w/e. So if one revealed that identity that would be Lb's fault. But no one did, so it's tk[as]'s betrayal, i think so.

Also, I have ss of lightbringer posting my IP on public channel, so it's not as 'unacceptable' as one might think
Well, i don't welcome ip's discover without any solid reason, we can talk about details if you want.

this sounds serious, but as far as i know, tk[as] decided to leave the team on his own? He wasn't really performing any duties for months. Wasn't even active that much.
Well, i didn't have anything againt tk[as] personality before, only against him being admin. Now i do.

But the statement is fair nonetheless. Reasonable thing to do - don't trust tk[as]!
Yes, that is one of things i'm talking about.

What about the fact we cant made 2 account on the forum? It's because he is admin if he can overpass the law made 2 accounts and even worst insultes people from secret account when he is admin? Where the punishment for light, tk just said the truth.
Did we prohibit multiaccounting anywhere on the server or forum? Martin18 had 3 or 4 accounts.
Did we fight against that with ever? I don't remember such cases.

And who cares about his privacy when he have acces to all our smurfs and all our ip? Pretty sad to smurf peoples like that when your admin and your suppose to show exemple.
Yes, admins have such access as a part of their job, so what? I also have to say i looked after both Lb's akas and never saw any abuse from his side.


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Your totally take out the only admin of your team where community have confident, so yes i trust tk way much more then you or any one of your liar staff, tk do his job right, hes neutral he dint need to hide himself, he assume and he dont lie.

Being crazy and bootk tk off for light because he told us how lightbringer is a dumb fucker who smurf and insult us, now just believe if he can protect him at this point for some stupid reason how he will protect him if he hacks.

It's just look like iL his a slave of the muslim trap.

please just ban yourself and bring light with you.

It's look like you got a boner on light for the last 8 month, so maybe you guys can stand togheter with some candles and choclate never came back and leave us the decent admin tk!

Thank you.
Not related to my post, we already discussed that in many previous threads.

Also I don't understand how these Admins expect the players to get along with each other when there is so much internal conflict between themselves...this is ridiculous the amount they fight. I wonder what fights they have had on Admins only boards...
Also not quite related to thread, but what conflicts do admins have between themselves? All of us agree in some base questions, just a small discord in ban period or w/e.

Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 11:00:56 AM

I never heard anything about any rule that you can only have one forums account.  Did I miss that one?

I don't understand why he needed two accounts thought? This sort of behavior is usually associated with hackers and thieves as we have seen. Can you shed some light on this?


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: mousEtopher on June 26, 2015, 11:04:24 AM
I never heard anything about any rule that you can only have one forums account.  Did I miss that one?

No, don't think so. Ganz, EQ, USA-Archer are all known to have made multiple accounts and no particular action taken against them. I would say it's strongly discouraged though to prevent confusion.

@Ryu, he wanted to participate in a game he enjoys without being innundated with harrassment/religious slurs every time he logged on, which is the situation he found himself in when he made the aka. Totally understandable imo.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 11:09:00 AM
So you guys are totally boot an admin of your team because he told to the community the truth about another admin who smurf us and insult us with his secret account while he cry on his real account admin about being insulted and try to perma ban that peoples??

This staff is the most biggest fail ever, seriously...

They just use this door to boot tk since he dint cares about them anymore, you guys are total failure, no sens of morality, gonna boot our best admin for the muslim egocentric hacker one.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 11:10:57 AM
I never heard anything about any rule that you can only have one forums account.  Did I miss that one?

No, don't think so. Ganz, EQ, USA-Archer are all known to have made multiple accounts and no particular action taken against them. I would say it's strongly discouraged though to prevent confusion.

@Ryu, he wanted to participate in a game he enjoys without being innundated with harrassment/religious slurs every time he logged on, which is the situation he found himself in when he made the aka. Totally understandable imo.

We are not admin, we dont have to show exemple, and we certainly do not have acces to ip and other smurf peoples..

How the fuck someone can smurfs other while other cant smurfs him, fuck off dude, we are not playing arcade section.

Hes an admin acting like if hes only a player.
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 11:11:26 AM
I never heard anything about any rule that you can only have one forums account.  Did I miss that one?

No, don't think so. Ganz, EQ, USA-Archer are all known to have made multiple accounts and no particular action taken against them. I would say it's strongly discouraged though to prevent confusion.

@Ryu, he wanted to participate in a game he enjoys without being innundated with harrassment/religious slurs every time he logged on, which is the situation he found himself in when he made the aka. Totally understandable imo.

I don't agree with his choice of making a smurf, shows weakness in his ability as an Mod. He should be able to filter through all the hate and not get emotionally charged over small things even if it is stuff about his religion.

However, that doesn't excuse this community's hostility towards him. Things do need to change if we are expected to survive.



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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 11:11:44 AM
I think this song is really sad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27waAe7V-9s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27waAe7V-9s)
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 11:15:33 AM
I think this song is really sad:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27waAe7V-9s[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27waAe7V-9s[/url])


do your thang, let big boy talk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3h7ukM-qYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3h7ukM-qYE)

Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 11:16:35 AM
So you guys are totally boot an admin of your team because he told to the community the truth about another admin who smurf us and insult us with his secret account while he cry on his real account admin about being insulted and try to perma ban that peoples??

This staff is the most biggest fail ever, seriously...

They just use this door to boot tk since he dint cares about them anymore, you guys are total failure, no sens of morality, gonna boot our best admin for the muslim egocentric hacker one.

Pathetic.

They didn't boot TK out...he left himself...I believe blid even mentioned once that they never questioned his Admin duties even if it was against their wishes (I.e unipbanning all the banned gamers).

This administration does have major flaws, but I believe TK left on his own accord because he was disgusted at what the current administration was doing, or lack of doing I would say...(I.e overbearing rules on gamers, favoritism, etc.)



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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 11:20:06 AM

So you guys are totally boot an admin of your team because he told to the community the truth about another admin who smurf us and insult us with his secret account while he cry on his real account admin about being insulted and try to perma ban that peoples??

This staff is the most biggest fail ever, seriously...

They just use this door to boot tk since he dint cares about them anymore, you guys are total failure, no sens of morality, gonna boot our best admin for the muslim egocentric hacker one.

Pathetic.

They didn't boot TK out...he left himself...I believe blid even mentioned once that they never questioned his Admin duties even if it was against their wishes (I.e unipbanning all the banned gamers).

This administration does have major flaws, but I believe TK left on his own accord because he was disgusted at what the current administration was doing, or lack of doing I would say...



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Oh dont get me wrong about it, i totally know tk left by his own since 6 month ago already, but just acting like they does is totally a lack of respect and even more, it's nasty and yes disgusting, they just want to show they do what they want and how we are all stupid.

They totally laught in our face, i hope you guys are gonna believe me a good day, baddest staff ever.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 11:25:58 AM
Hes an admin acting like if hes only a player.
That's a good idea though.  Lots of places even have that as a policy, people post or play or do whatever under a normal user account, and the admin account isn't used for games or regular talk, so it can stay unattached and with a full appearance of neutrality.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 11:26:13 AM


So you guys are totally boot an admin of your team because he told to the community the truth about another admin who smurf us and insult us with his secret account while he cry on his real account admin about being insulted and try to perma ban that peoples??

This staff is the most biggest fail ever, seriously...

They just use this door to boot tk since he dint cares about them anymore, you guys are total failure, no sens of morality, gonna boot our best admin for the muslim egocentric hacker one.

Pathetic.

They didn't boot TK out...he left himself...I believe blid even mentioned once that they never questioned his Admin duties even if it was against their wishes (I.e unipbanning all the banned gamers).

This administration does have major flaws, but I believe TK left on his own accord because he was disgusted at what the current administration was doing, or lack of doing I would say...



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Oh dont get me wrong about it, i totally know tk left by his own since 6 month ago already, but just acting like they does is totally a lack of respect and even more, it's nasty and yes disgusting, they just want to show they do what they want and how we are all stupid.

They totally laught in our face, i hope you guys are gonna believe me a good day, baddest staff ever.

Well I agree, TK did leave on his own wishes but I am sure the current administration is at fault also for making him feel alienated and wanting to leave.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 11:29:14 AM
Hes an admin acting like if hes only a player.
That's a good idea though.  Lots of places even have that as a policy, people post or play or do whatever under a normal user account, and the admin account isn't used for games or regular talk, so it can stay unattached and with a full appearance of neutrality.

How is that a good idea? The reason your an Admin is because you have the ability to lead and also be part of the society. He shouldn't hide the fact that he is a admin just to get along with members of the community. I am sorry but that is just sad and pathetic if you feel you need to mask your identity to be liked. What the hell kind of mentality is that blid? I am shocked that you would even support anything like this. Admin is not a side job you put away when you feel your not liked.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 11:29:44 AM
Hes an admin acting like if hes only a player.
That's a good idea though.  Lots of places even have that as a policy, people post or play or do whatever under a normal user account, and the admin account isn't used for games or regular talk, so it can stay unattached and with a full appearance of neutrality.

Dude im totally against that and i totally want a pool vote right now..

How the fuck someone have acces to our smurf and ip and can smurf/insults/manipulated us after??? It's totally against our rights, i got the right of privacy even much then lightbringer against player... So how the fuck i got privacy against lightbringer when he became a normal player???

If someone have acces to my ip and my smurfs i want him to stay on his real account and protect me all the time,  i dont want him to became what i fear, what kind of stupid logic is that??!!

I mean hes totally have advantage on us right now as a normal player.

If you want to take exemple on other place, take exemple on almost 98% of everygame using one client.

Get on your horse your totally out of track son.

Worst staff ever, you guys are better take relaxing break pause for 2 month every 2 week and talk about nba, total scrubs.

Booting Tk, cant believe this shit.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on June 26, 2015, 11:39:13 AM
the thread is polluted already. too bad
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Rit on June 26, 2015, 11:58:42 AM
I appreciate everything that TK and LB have done for the server.  They assisted me in channel anytime I asked anything of them.  TK helped me get onto the old forums and LB even helped to assist me in forwarding Mafia's ports on his router when I ran into settings that were all in french.  LB was even willing to remote into his computer to assist me with this. I'm not sure what the exact issue is between TK and LB but I think they need to put it in the past and move on.  Let's face it, it's petty.  I think the differences we have with one another need to be settled right away so we can continue moving on in a direction that will benefit the server.

I think TK has some great ideas, but I think that his view on raising money is a bit optimistic.  I don't think it's so much that we need cash prizes to draw in old players who will only participate in a tournament on that one day.  A lot of us are getting older and just don't have time to play anymore.  Most of us were in our early twenties (college aged) when the server had been thriving a bit more.  I think it would be best to focus on a new generation of players.  We could even have tournaments that are exclusive to new players.  Why not create a board on the forum for new player introductions?  There are a lot of younger kids out there who are interested in the game but don't stay because they probably don't feel as if they fit in.  I've had quite a few of them reach out to me to play a few games with them and I try to help them as much as I possibly can.  When I reflect on what kept bringing me back to the server, I think about the atmosphere and the group of people I played with.  The new players need to feel welcome and the best thing we can do is to include them in our games and help them learn.  They will keep coming back if they have something to look forward to when they get on to play.  Burnt did a great job when he took in new players into the DW clan which I feel is something a lot of us can work with.  Money is not the answer here.  The bonds players are able to form with one another is.  I hope to see TK helping the server again and working with the admins in a way that isn't counter-productive.  I'd even like to discuss a few things with him and work with him to accomplish a lot of the things that he recommends. 

After some contemplation, I think I would actually be willing to take on an admin/mod position if I have the blessing of the admins and the players.  I'd like to help the server more and assist the players in the channel.  I also think we should start considering nominating a few admins/mods (people who can be trusted) who are active and can assist players in the channel.

Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Player on June 26, 2015, 12:00:24 PM
Dude im totally against that and i totally want a pool vote right now..

Too much of this horseshit in my opinion. Admins should just make a decision and move forward rather than waste time trying to measure everyone's opinion for every little thing.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 12:04:22 PM
Yeah lol we gotta vote on whether Lightbringer is allowed to smurf now?  Anyway I think Rit might be a pretty good mod and a replacement may be needed since our most active people tk and Lightbringer have stepped down.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 26, 2015, 12:05:21 PM
Too much of this horseshit in my opinion. Admins should just make a decision and move forward rather than waste time trying to measure everyone's opinion for every little thing.

decision bout what
its a pointless thread, bout how 1 dude trusted other dude now they dont trust each other anymore
another ophrah drama thread to eat popcorn with, thats what this is :P
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 12:10:02 PM
Dude im totally against that and i totally want a pool vote right now..

Too much of this horseshit in my opinion. Admins should just make a decision and move forward rather than waste time trying to measure everyone's opinion for every little thing.

Actually your totally right, but how we should let them take decision since they are totally out of track.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 12:11:04 PM
Yeah lol we gotta vote on whether Lightbringer is allowed to smurf now?  Anyway I think Rit might be a pretty good mod and a replacement may be needed since our most active people tk and Lightbringer have stepped down.

This game gonna die no need replacement, equinox is out of here.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 26, 2015, 12:12:00 PM
this 43 sec clip portrays this thread

the dude in light blue is tk, the dude in white is lb and equinox is the referree!!

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMKUjyGJym0#)
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 12:27:15 PM
Yeah lol we gotta vote on whether Lightbringer is allowed to smurf now?  Anyway I think Rit might be a pretty good mod and a replacement may be needed since our most active people tk and Lightbringer have stepped down.

This game gonna die no need replacement, equinox is out of here.
I thought you were gonna take the top of the ladder while streaming to prove all legit.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 12:28:24 PM

Yeah lol we gotta vote on whether Lightbringer is allowed to smurf now?  Anyway I think Rit might be a pretty good mod and a replacement may be needed since our most active people tk and Lightbringer have stepped down.

This game gonna die no need replacement, equinox is out of here.
I thought you were gonna take the top of the ladder while streaming to prove all legit.

Not the first time he's said that either [emoji23]


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: {Lance} on June 26, 2015, 01:28:56 PM
I dont believe TK did anything wrong actually.  LB has revealed PLENTY of my own AKA's just to be an asshole (I wouldnt doubt he's done it to others either, but I can only speak from my own experience).  Sounds like TK did it back to him to be an ass.  Karma is a bitch isnt it LB lol.  In the past I'd created smurfs for the exact same reason as LB,  to avoid the bs I usually dealt with when I was not in the mood for it.  I too never did anything wrong on those accounts either, yet he still felt it would be "fun" to reveal them and then begin to bash me so that others would join in.  LB deserves everything bad he gets, the dude is a loose cannon.  TK may be a jerk every now and then, but at least he's impartial when the time comes.  Revealing AKA's is not a big deal,  certainly not worthy of losing anything or being banned.  But it does do one thing.  It shows just how much of an asshole you truly are.  Both TK and LB have done revealed AKA's against other player's wishes for no reason other than the humor factor.  If TK loses admin over something so trivial,  LB should as well since they are both guilty of the exact same "offense" I guess you could call it.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on June 26, 2015, 01:41:15 PM
the 'slight' fact you forgot to mention is that you were supposed to be permbanned at a time. And getting banned you were. On sight!
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: {Lance} on June 26, 2015, 01:43:50 PM
the 'slight' fact you forgot to mention is that you were supposed to be permbanned at a time. And getting banned you were. On sight!

Naa, he has done it as recently as within the last few months.  Most notably when the game had 8 players in it, he said "We need your spot lance,  see ya hacker" or some such non-sense.  He could have done it without spouting my name.  I have all of that on stream if it hasnt deleted itself yet.  It's not something I considered "highlight" worthy.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Light always been an asshole hypocrite cry baby hacker, everyone fucking know it, lightbringer is the most pathetic shit war2 ever met.

They really fucking boot Tk for light, i just cant believe it.

It's look like it was an easy way to get rid of someone who had different vision then them.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 01:49:41 PM

Light always been an asshole hypocrite cry baby, everyone fucking know it, lightbringer is the most pathetic shit war2 ever met.

They really fucking boot Tk for light, i just cant believe it.

It's look like it was an easy way to get rid of someone who had different vision then them.

Don't think they booted TK for LB.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 01:50:44 PM

Light always been an asshole hypocrite cry baby, everyone fucking know it, lightbringer is the most pathetic shit war2 ever met.

They really fucking boot Tk for light, i just cant believe it.

It's look like it was an easy way to get rid of someone who had different vision then them.

Don't think they booted TK for LB.


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Yah dude totally, because everytime something is not going like what light want he go cry to iL and he do what he want.. This is exactly why we still have this stupid client open and this is also why tk is boot today.

Did you dont even notice how blid il and everyone try to cover light ass all day long, light is good guy, ive never notice wrong with light, light suck my balls too, i like when light spread his ass for me.

I mean dude, light is a total jerk joke, there alot of problemes because of him, and instead they boot the most decent one!! LOL

Fuck this staff litterally.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on June 26, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
the 'slight' fact you forgot to mention is that you were supposed to be permbanned at a time. And getting banned you were. On sight!


Naa, he has done it as recently as within the last few months.  Most notably when the game had 8 players in it, he said "We need your spot lance,  see ya hacker" or some such non-sense.  He could have done it without spouting my name.  I have all of that on stream if it hasnt deleted itself yet.  It's not something I considered "highlight" worthy.


Alright, my bad then, you were not banned. But what you just said, brings something of even bigger importance into light - you were BROADCOASTING your games. On your public stream. Which is listed on the main website under your {lance} name (http://en.war2.ru/community/ (http://en.war2.ru/community/)). You really can't stream your games under your secret alies and complain about privacy AT THE SAME TIME.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 02:00:30 PM
And the most fucking pathetic thing in this story is about ALL OF YOU who gonna support this DUMBBEST MOVE DECISION EVER!!!!

Actually i think its the second most pathetic move ever on WAR2RU after to hire the most famous hacker lightbringer in the staff.

Please lance and tupac let's make your own server, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee, seriously, fuck them!
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 02:10:04 PM

And the most fucking pathetic thing in this story is about ALL OF YOU who gonna support this DUMBBEST MOVE DECISION EVER!!!!

Actually i think its the second most pathetic move ever on WAR2RU after to hire the most famous hacker lightbringer in the staff.

Please lance and tupac let's make your own server, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee, seriously, fuck them!

Moving on to another project EQ? Will this be UWC 2015 all over again? [emoji45]


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 02:32:56 PM
the 'slight' fact you forgot to mention is that you were supposed to be permbanned at a time. And getting banned you were. On sight!


Naa, he has done it as recently as within the last few months.  Most notably when the game had 8 players in it, he said "We need your spot lance,  see ya hacker" or some such non-sense.  He could have done it without spouting my name.  I have all of that on stream if it hasnt deleted itself yet.  It's not something I considered "highlight" worthy.


Alright, my bad then, you were not banned. But what you just said, brings something of even bigger importance into light - you were BROADCOASTING your games. On your public stream. Which is listed on the main website under your {lance} name ([url]http://en.war2.ru/community/[/url] ([url]http://en.war2.ru/community/[/url])). You really can't stream your games under your secret alies and complain about privacy AT THE SAME TIME.

lol
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: mousEtopher on June 26, 2015, 03:32:06 PM
I think TK has some great ideas, but I think that his view on raising money is a bit optimistic.  I don't think it's so much that we need cash prizes to draw in old players who will only participate in a tournament on that one day.

You misunderstood his idea. He proposed a tournament with a cash prize for new players only. A decent prize gives new users incentive to log on and play regularly enough to improve. When they do, they meet and form bonds with other players which fosters the atmosphere you're talking about. It's a great idea IMO.

There's also no denying that the FBA and other forms of advertising some months ago resulted in a big boost to the number of active players. Money isn't "the" answer, but it's a big part of it.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: GreenPlastic on June 26, 2015, 03:32:47 PM
Idk why anyone is in an uproar over tk being removed.  He hasn't wanted to be admin in a long time and has stated it multiple times.  I'm sure even he is surprised that they never actually took it away from him.  Exposing what he exposed isn't even something all that large.  He just spoke out about what he has seen.  Nox is just being himself and rallying and exaggerating behind the latest person to disagree with current administration.  I wouldn't be surprised if he starts spraypainting his monitor with Black Lives Matter in the near future. 

TK doesn't even have to defend himself on any of this because 1) He asked to be removed from admin multiple times and you guys didn't respect his wishes.  You basically put your heads in the sand and pretended it would go away.  2) Teron has had a douchey attitude and now that it comes to Light about who he is, well you all see what tk wanted you to see. 

IL acting like there is some major betrayal here is probably because he has been under constant attack and so has the server recently.  I'm sure most of you have been in situations where negative things just seem to keep happening.  His reaction is an overreaction but understandable.  What is indefensible is knowing that you have an admin on a smurf, who is being all the things you want to end on your server.  He has been racist, attacked players, and incredibly biased.  I get that he does probably 2-3 good things for every wrong thing but giving 3 homeless people money and then kicking the 4th you come across is nothing to cheer or defend. 

Admins should be above the pettiness they try to police.  Lightbringer should work on doing less of the harmful things and more of the positive things.  Making a smurf to take your aggressions out isn't the answer.  If you wanted to smurf to avoid the harassment, then don't create a new environment of harassment. 

Cliff's notes: Don't kick homeless people or tk will call you out.
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 03:37:16 PM
@joe at least you understand that admins have no business hiding as smurfs just to avoid being hated. Mr. Blid seems to think it's acceptable...


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 03:43:17 PM
Idk why anyone is in an uproar over tk being removed.  He hasn't wanted to be admin in a long time and has stated it multiple times.  I'm sure even he is surprised that they never actually took it away from him.  Exposing what he exposed isn't even something all that large.  He just spoke out about what he has seen.  Nox is just being himself and rallying and exaggerating behind the latest person to disagree with current administration.  I wouldn't be surprised if he starts spraypainting his monitor with Black Lives Matter in the near future. 

TK doesn't even have to defend himself on any of this because 1) He asked to be removed from admin multiple times and you guys didn't respect his wishes.  You basically put your heads in the sand and pretended it would go away.  2) Teron has had a douchey attitude and now that it comes to Light about who he is, well you all see what tk wanted you to see. 

IL acting like there is some major betrayal here is probably because he has been under constant attack and so has the server recently.  I'm sure most of you have been in situations where negative things just seem to keep happening.  His reaction is an overreaction but understandable.  What is indefensible is knowing that you have an admin on a smurf, who is being all the things you want to end on your server.  He has been racist, attacked players, and incredibly biased.  I get that he does probably 2-3 good things for every wrong thing but giving 3 homeless people money and then kicking the 4th you come across is nothing to cheer or defend. 

Admins should be above the pettiness they try to police.  Lightbringer should work on doing less of the harmful things and more of the positive things.  Making a smurf to take your aggressions out isn't the answer.  If you wanted to smurf to avoid the harassment, then don't create a new environment of harassment. 

Cliff's notes: Don't kick homeless people or tk will call you out.

Nice long text but it mean nothing dude, we all know tk remove himself since six month ago, it's not a big news, you dont learn nothing here einstein, com more often on forum and you gonna see we follow the wave, we are not mad because they boot tk, we are mad because they act like rats and mad for the reason they choose to officialy boot tk instead of light, im pretty sure if light was the one who get booted we will see tk get back on a short future, but now we are slave of that dumb muslim.

War2Ru was dead, but now they just put it in a coffin.
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 03:58:36 PM
Idk why anyone is in an uproar over tk being removed.  He hasn't wanted to be admin in a long time and has stated it multiple times.  I'm sure even he is surprised that they never actually took it away from him.  Exposing what he exposed isn't even something all that large.  He just spoke out about what he has seen.  Nox is just being himself and rallying and exaggerating behind the latest person to disagree with current administration.  I wouldn't be surprised if he starts spraypainting his monitor with Black Lives Matter in the near future. 

TK doesn't even have to defend himself on any of this because 1) He asked to be removed from admin multiple times and you guys didn't respect his wishes.  You basically put your heads in the sand and pretended it would go away.  2) Teron has had a douchey attitude and now that it comes to Light about who he is, well you all see what tk wanted you to see. 

IL acting like there is some major betrayal here is probably because he has been under constant attack and so has the server recently.  I'm sure most of you have been in situations where negative things just seem to keep happening.  His reaction is an overreaction but understandable.  What is indefensible is knowing that you have an admin on a smurf, who is being all the things you want to end on your server.  He has been racist, attacked players, and incredibly biased.  I get that he does probably 2-3 good things for every wrong thing but giving 3 homeless people money and then kicking the 4th you come across is nothing to cheer or defend. 

Admins should be above the pettiness they try to police.  Lightbringer should work on doing less of the harmful things and more of the positive things.  Making a smurf to take your aggressions out isn't the answer.  If you wanted to smurf to avoid the harassment, then don't create a new environment of harassment. 

Cliff's notes: Don't kick homeless people or tk will call you out.

Nice long text but it mean nothing dude, we all know tk remove himself since six month ago, it's not a big news, you dont learn nothing here einstein, com more often on forum and you gonna see we follow the wave, we are not mad because they boot tk, we are mad because they act like rats and mad for the reason they choose to officialy boot tk instead of light, im pretty sure if light was the one who get booted we will see tk get back on a short future, but now we are slave of that dumb muslim.

War2Ru was dead, but now they just put it in a coffin.

Don't think it's dead per say but the admins are questionable...one quit, one smurfs, other supports smurfing, I don't get it.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: mousEtopher on June 26, 2015, 04:00:12 PM
@joe at least you understand that admins have no business hiding as smurfs just to avoid being hated. Mr. Blid seems to thinks it's acceptable...

Why not? Everyone else has the right to smurf. In and of itself it in no way constitutes an abuse of his authority. I don't think Light particularly cared whether people on War2 dislike him, but that doesn't mean he wants to get slammed with verbal abuse from people who have nothing better to do every single time he logs in. Is he, as an admin, in some way obligated to make his identity known at all times for the sole purpose of allowing people to throw shit at him if they so choose..? That's garbage.
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 04:03:14 PM
@joe at least you understand that admins have no business hiding as smurfs just to avoid being hated. Mr. Blid seems to thinks it's acceptable...

Why not? Everyone else has the right to smurf. In and of itself it in no way constitutes an abuse of his authority. I don't think Light particularly cared whether people on War2 dislike him, but that doesn't mean he wants to get slammed with verbal abuse from people who have nothing better to do every single time he logs in. Is he, as an admin, in some way obligated to make his identity known at all times for the sole purpose of allowing people to throw shit at him if they so choose..? That's garbage.

Well fuck if people hate him maybe he should do something to change their attitudes, being hated is not a good thing, it's not something that should be put away in the closet. Admin is a leadership position, fuck step down if he can't handle the heat.

Why this server has gone to shits, admins don't like to face their problems.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on June 26, 2015, 04:04:40 PM
@joe at least you understand that admins have no business hiding as smurfs just to avoid being hated. Mr. Blid seems to thinks it's acceptable...

Why not? Everyone else has the right to smurf. In and of itself it in no way constitutes an abuse of his authority. I don't think Light particularly cared whether people on War2 dislike him, but that doesn't mean he wants to get slammed with verbal abuse from people who have nothing better to do every single time he logs in. Is he, as an admin, in some way obligated to make his identity known at all times for the sole purpose of allowing people to throw shit at him if they so choose..? That's garbage.

+1

if racism, shittalk and whatever he's been allegedly doing NOT against the rules, im fine with it.
and im only saying that in response to joe's post. Obviously ryu and equinox dont matter and everybody skips their posts
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 04:06:01 PM
@joe at least you understand that admins have no business hiding as smurfs just to avoid being hated. Mr. Blid seems to thinks it's acceptable...

Why not? Everyone else has the right to smurf. In and of itself it in no way constitutes an abuse of his authority. I don't think Light particularly cared whether people on War2 dislike him, but that doesn't mean he wants to get slammed with verbal abuse from people who have nothing better to do every single time he logs in. Is he, as an admin, in some way obligated to make his identity known at all times for the sole purpose of allowing people to throw shit at him if they so choose..? That's garbage.

+1

if racism, shittalk and whatever he's been allegedly doing NOT against the rules, im fine with it.
and im only saying that in response to joe's post. Obviously ryu and equinox dont matter and everybody skips their posts

Cool story bro.
Like I give a shit what a thief says about me.

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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Rit on June 26, 2015, 04:08:39 PM
I think TK has some great ideas, but I think that his view on raising money is a bit optimistic.  I don't think it's so much that we need cash prizes to draw in old players who will only participate in a tournament on that one day.

You misunderstood his idea. He proposed a tournament with a cash prize for new players only. A decent prize gives new users incentive to log on and play regularly enough to improve. When they do, they meet and form bonds with other players which fosters the atmosphere you're talking about. It's a great idea IMO.

There's also no denying that the FBA and other forms of advertising some months ago resulted in a big boost to the number of active players. Money isn't "the" answer, but it's a big part of it.

lol... Yeah, I need to start paying attention instead of skimming through posts.  I think if you want to advertise, it would be nice to get some donations for post boosting on Facebook.  I'm not too sure it matters in a tournament for new players though.  However, if we're able to raise the money for it, by all means let's do it.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: GreenPlastic on June 26, 2015, 04:12:38 PM
Admins should be above the pettiness they try to police.  Lightbringer should work on doing less of the harmful things and more of the positive things.  Making a smurf to take your aggressions out isn't the answer.  If you wanted to smurf to avoid the harassment, then don't create a new environment of harassment.

He should be allowed to smurf.  As an admin, however, he shouldn't be adding to the negativity while he is smurfing.  If he doesn't want to be on the wrong end of racist comments then why does he put others in that same situation while anonymous.  There aren't any lessons to be taught that way.  It isn't as if the people he is insulting are going to wake up tomorrow and realize oh fuck thats what it feels like guess I better stop.  All he is doing is ensuring that the culture of insults, racism, and bad attitudes continues. 
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on June 26, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
My other forum accounts were banned. Why is he allowed to have one? Wtf

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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 04:20:17 PM

My other forum accounts were banned. Why is he allowed to have one? Wtf

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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 04:22:16 PM
@joe at least you understand that admins have no business hiding as smurfs just to avoid being hated. Mr. Blid seems to thinks it's acceptable...

Why not? Everyone else has the right to smurf. In and of itself it in no way constitutes an abuse of his authority. I don't think Light particularly cared whether people on War2 dislike him, but that doesn't mean he wants to get slammed with verbal abuse from people who have nothing better to do every single time he logs in. Is he, as an admin, in some way obligated to make his identity known at all times for the sole purpose of allowing people to throw shit at him if they so choose..? That's garbage.

Can you read what you just said, your totally approved the fact peoples call him name and insults him?? Did you even ask yourself why?? Because is the hypocrite garbage and you dint even know him, especially yourself!

Now he is admin, he is suppose to show exemple by his behavior and even more, by his presence and by his support and his help, this dude dint even act like an admin, hes acting like a player but more even worst, like a retard child hypocrite player.

He totally smurf us and insult us and manipuated us hide under his smurfs and try to ban people from his own main account for the same kind of behavior.

Light is a total garbage, totally.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 04:27:50 PM
Admins should be above the pettiness they try to police.  Lightbringer should work on doing less of the harmful things and more of the positive things.  Making a smurf to take your aggressions out isn't the answer.  If you wanted to smurf to avoid the harassment, then don't create a new environment of harassment.

He should be allowed to smurf.  As an admin, however, he shouldn't be adding to the negativity while he is smurfing.  If he doesn't want to be on the wrong end of racist comments then why does he put others in that same situation while anonymous.  There aren't any lessons to be taught that way.  It isn't as if the people he is insulting are going to wake up tomorrow and realize oh fuck thats what it feels like guess I better stop.  All he is doing is ensuring that the culture of insults, racism, and bad attitudes continues.

No he should not be able to smurf... Because let me tell you something, most of your win comming from the fact you know your opponennt, so when you decide to smurf you have that advantage to play without the fact your ennemies know you.. So you cleary play them as their real level since they have to adapt at you..

In that case if you take light on smurf and your also on smurf, hes gonna be able to clearly outplay you since he totally know who the fuck you are.

Im sorry but the fact he had acces to our ip and our smurfs put him in a situation where he have to be an admin and protect us, not became someone who gonna use that has his advantage.

You totally have no understanding gaming knowlede.

If people insult him, it's because there reasons, smurf should not be his exit door to save what peoples think about him and finally became what he pretend to not be, an hypocrit garbage!!!
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 26, 2015, 05:21:08 PM
 i initially figured/assumed tk knew teron-lb cuz he checked ips when he was admin,
so him revealing aka did sound lame and moral lacking and  deserved any shit talk on him, no doubt
but this thread cleared that out and that isnt the case, its just a dude trusting other dude privacy and the break of trust...


no big betrayal or anything as this thread escalates it. its just an argument between 2 dudes.

on the other hand,
nothing wrong with smurfing
what i find very very very funny is smurfing the forums..... for that long......
i tried that myself... but ceased [shortly after]... couldn't live with myself lol.

Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 05:29:39 PM
My other forum accounts were banned. Why is he allowed to have one? Wtf

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I didn't think you had other forum accounts, just one for you and one for your brother?
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on June 26, 2015, 05:51:12 PM
My other forum accounts were banned. Why is he allowed to have one? Wtf

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I didn't think you had other forum accounts, just one for you and one for your brother?
My brother had an account and I had a few.others as well. They all got banned.

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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 05:53:49 PM
The only account of yours that got banned was your "brother" and it was because you set up a bot with it to vote on posts nonstop.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 05:53:52 PM
My other forum accounts were banned. Why is he allowed to have one? Wtf

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I didn't think you had other forum accounts, just one for you and one for your brother?
My brother had an account and I had a few.others as well. They all got banned.

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Mine too dont worry.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 05:56:00 PM
And yours got banned, Equinox, when you were evading other bans on this forum.  I have the complete ban list in front of me.

No account was banned just because the user had another account.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on June 26, 2015, 06:04:18 PM
Why were mine banned?

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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on June 26, 2015, 06:06:06 PM
And yours got banned, Equinox, when you were evading other bans on this forum.  I have the complete ban list in front of me.

No account was banned just because the user had another account.

Ban exactly for lightbringer and from moustopher lie.

Ban your stupid dirty face.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 06:16:52 PM
Why were mine banned?

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I just told you, you had a bot set up with it voting up your own post non stop and voting down other posts etc
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on June 26, 2015, 06:19:03 PM
Could have just.told.me to.stop and give a warning.

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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 26, 2015, 06:33:53 PM
Could have just.told.me to.stop and give a warning.

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Not blid's style, ban first...warn later.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 26, 2015, 06:38:02 PM
Lol, it's a fake account run by a bot abusing the forums, why would I not just ban that?  Did I ban GaNz for it?  No...
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 26, 2015, 06:38:45 PM
yeah ganz just stop talking u ridicule yourself with each post
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on June 26, 2015, 06:59:47 PM
yeah ganz just stop talking u ridicule yourself with each post

your just mad cuz you were one of the bot's targets
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Player on June 26, 2015, 07:11:35 PM
lol... good laughs today w/ this thread. Thanks everyone
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Yamon on July 07, 2015, 02:30:09 PM
lol... good laughs today w/ this thread. Thanks everyone

yeah, seriously, how come no one could notice what  a piece of shit tk was when he was insulting me for no reason and being a complete asshole because he wanted to be admin instead of me? no one remembers this? that was Before they made this drunk wife beater an admin. And here i am, been trying to be an admin since 06, been helping the community the whole time, but tk was the prime candidate? i don't understand.

Can someone explain to me in what universe can you walk up to someone drunk, start insulting them with a bunch of empty idiotic insults and invalid points to an argument, get that person thrown out as admin, and become admin yourself, can someone rationalize that for me? you guys are lucky i still have an interest in your server.

So as far as i see it,

lol... good laughs today w/ this thread. Thanks everyone
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on July 07, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
lol... good laughs today w/ this thread. Thanks everyone

yeah, seriously, how come no one could notice what  a piece of shit tk was when he was insulting me for no reason and being a complete asshole because he wanted to be admin instead of me? no one remembers this? that was Before they made this drunk wife beater an admin. And here i am, been trying to be an admin since 06, been helping the community the whole time, but tk was the prime candidate? i don't understand.

Can someone explain to me in what universe can you walk up to someone drunk, start insulting them with a bunch of empty idiotic insults and invalid points to an argument, get that person thrown out as admin, and become admin yourself, can someone rationalize that for me? you guys are lucky i still have an interest in your server.

So as far as i see it,

lol... good laughs today w/ this thread. Thanks everyone

Wtf did you do?? No fucking thing dude, only hacks, steal account from the real yahmon and be the best groopie of one of the most famous hacker of all time.

Your nothing to be compare with tk, your a joke son.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: mousEtopher on July 07, 2015, 06:11:21 PM
I'd vote for Yamon.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: tk[as] on July 07, 2015, 06:59:21 PM
The only way war2 would have thrived (or will ever thrive) is if the people calling the shots (admins) are actively involved in the community. I was the only one actively involved with the actual community, but still found myself having to consult community related issues before taking action. It was very frustrating and I am extremely disappointed in the overall leadership and delegation of "powers" within the community (forums and server alike)

I'm disappointed in how things on the server/forums were/are handled

you're disappointed that i voiced all of my disappointments and called everyone out on why i am disappointed in them


we'll all get over it.. the server will either continue on the path it is currently going and die, or someone (preferably lots of someones) with more patience than I will step up, be put in charge, and start engaging with the community again.


doesnt make much difference to me. i did the best i could, but the fact remains.. it doesnt matter how many updates, upgrades, or modifications you make to the server or forums. if there are not multiple POSITIVE leaders actively engaged with the community to assist and support the actual members of the community, this server is doomed.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: tk[as] on July 07, 2015, 07:06:09 PM
if it doesnt happen you might as well make a new thread titled "Betrayal from iL" for allowing the community to die. For having the power to put effective leaders in charge and not doing so... but instead putting people who have technical capabilities (but also disease like personalities) in charge.

If I were in your shoes there would be at least 4-5 ACTIVE admins who proved to be BENEFICIAL and POSITIVE to the actual community.

Then there would be the others in charge of the technical side that would not have "public relations" powers if they were not equally as capable.

Being good at technical related things does not = being good at dealing with the community and handling situations in a responsible manner
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: tk[as] on July 07, 2015, 07:07:40 PM
also .... yes, Teron-Gorefiend = LightBringer

why the fuck would I make that up? ... just pull it out of my ass for fun?



no, i told you guys so you could see what type of person he really was when he wasnt hiding behind his admin account.  ... A racist child like disease who acted similarly to koorb or allstar on the server.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: tk[as] on July 07, 2015, 07:41:16 PM
also iL  ... if you knew anything about me you would know that I have ZERO interest in stealing and/or compromising anyone's personal/private information that i had access to as an admin... you're a fool for even suggesting i might be a threat in that regard.

I asked not to be admin probably close to 6 months ago. I have probably only been on the server a dozen times since then. I have only been on these forums a dozen times since then. If I 1) had any desire what so ever to compromise the server or anyone on it's personal information and 2) had any idea at all of how to actually do it  ... im pretty sure I would have done it by now. but i have no desire to do that, ive never had any desire to do that, and i have absolutely no idea how i would go about doing it even if i wanted to.

if anything of the sort happens you might actually want to look into Lightbringer first. As far as I know he is the only one who took the time to use the database to crack people's passwords. I will not mention the admin's name, but there is another admin who knows lightbringer has done it... and i'm sure that admin will admit it to you in private.

Want to know how I found out he was able to crack people's passwords using the database?  He MSGd me bragging about it and then TOLD ME MY OWN PASSWORD. So there is a very real chance Lightbringer knows your password too iL.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: {Lance} on July 07, 2015, 09:57:33 PM
Newsflash,  there is no "cracking" necessary.  The hash reversal site has been around for years.  It's no secret that anyone who has access to the DB also has access to plain text pw's if they so desire.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: tk[as] on July 07, 2015, 10:28:10 PM
i know nothing of how any of that works,im just repeating what i was told by another admin who also knew of him looking up people's passwords.. it was implied there was a decryption tool or crack used... not plain text
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 07, 2015, 10:35:20 PM
You're all a bunch of bitches imo...pathetic.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Winchester on July 08, 2015, 07:45:22 AM
Wtf did you do?? No fucking thing dude, only hacks, steal account from the real yahmon and be the best groopie of one of the most famous hacker of all time.

Your nothing to be compare with tk, your a joke son.


And all you do is hack, hack, cry, hack more, cry more, brag that you hack and cry. And steal from your own family cause you're a piece of shit.

And give up on everything you do a week after starting (get given uwc board and abandons it straight away lmfao)
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: SmurfKinG on July 08, 2015, 09:52:24 PM
winchester = 655 posts

625 of those posts = replied to equinox
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on July 08, 2015, 11:38:37 PM
winchester = 655 posts

625 of those posts = replied to equinox

hahahahaha
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on July 09, 2015, 02:45:22 AM
winchester = 655 posts

625 of those posts = replied to equinox


yep. pathetic, the guy wouldnt exist without the other, just like harry potter and voldemort
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 09, 2015, 03:09:45 AM

winchester = 655 posts

625 of those posts = replied to equinox


yep. pathetic, the guy wouldnt exist without the other, just like harry potter and voldemort

EQ Harry Potter?


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Winchester on July 09, 2015, 06:12:56 AM
winchester = 655 posts

625 of those posts = replied to equinox


yep. pathetic, the guy wouldnt exist without the other, just like harry potter and voldemort

I existed quite well without him on the occult forums. But your dumb polack brain surely can't remember that.  Sorry for your pathetic genes. Maybe you can get Equinox to roll the dice for some better genes in your next life.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Winchester on July 09, 2015, 06:14:54 AM
winchester = 655 posts

625 of those posts = replied to equinox


Smurf king = 912 posts

900 of those posts = Pedophilia related or sexual innuendos relating to children.

Source


I rather be a pedophile than a homo

Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on July 09, 2015, 06:24:42 AM
why so racist and mad, bro. we hit the nail on the head and youre projecting things
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Winchester on July 09, 2015, 06:35:28 AM
I hit the nail on the head by stating your pathetic genes. Do i need to provide Sepi's quote with that?

And you're wrong obviously, I existed just fine without him on the occult forums. Sorry for your missing brain.

"why so racist"  - The forums biggest racist

Now run along and go make another thread crying how I called you a polack and how you want them to give me a warning. (hilarious coming from you, banned on occult forums more times then sly)
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: SmurfKinG on July 09, 2015, 07:49:51 AM
yeh in the occult it wasnt equinox it was messiah
same shit dragged for months....
until messiah left.

 
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on July 09, 2015, 08:26:20 AM
racism is allowed atm, so why would i
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Winchester on July 09, 2015, 09:16:41 AM
yeh in the occult it wasnt equinox it was messiah
same shit dragged for months....
until messiah left.



 


that was late 2013, I registered in october 2011. Large time gap there, you'd know, you liked me better then since I was under the legal age.

You were also a fan of the Winchester/messiah feud. Besides, he's not a frequent poster. Which in turn means less replies.

Do try again though.
Title: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 09, 2015, 10:37:03 AM
winchester = 655 posts

625 of those posts = replied to equinox


Smurf king = 912 posts

900 of those posts = Pedophilia related or sexual innuendos relating to children.

Source


I rather be a pedophile than a homo



meh just thought it was a funny pic
seeing all the rainbow profiles i saw around..
im like, people can do whatever they want with their lives , i guess its a good thing the Supreme Court ruling...
there more crucial things in this world to be concerned of than wondering about 3rd partys sexual lives

but im just not up to the point of rainbowing myself on facebook heh......but then again, i rarely change facebook profile pics... been with the same for 2 years.

they should've legalized marrying 16 year olds instead tho......



He's admitted wanting to legalize underage marriages [emoji52]

Smurf = PEDOKing




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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on July 09, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
16 yrs is not pedo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

not saying i agree with him, but questioning US status quo isnt unreasonable by default. for example they consider you mature enough to fight and kill enemy d00dz at the age of 18... only 3 more years and you'll have your first beer!
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 09, 2015, 10:49:19 AM

16 yrs is not pedo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

not saying i agree with him, but questioning US status quo isnt unreasonable by default. for example they consider you mature enough to fight and kill enemy d00dz at the age of 18... only 3 more years and you'll have your first beer!

Because people are still stupid enough to drink and drive at that age you moron. Just because you can pick up a gun doesn't mean you can handle your liquor.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Winchester on July 09, 2015, 11:02:25 AM
Claws defending pedophiles, now THATS PATHETIC. Are your chickens underage or something?
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 09, 2015, 11:13:22 AM

16 yrs is not pedo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

not saying i agree with him, but questioning US status quo isnt unreasonable by default. for example they consider you mature enough to fight and kill enemy d00dz at the age of 18... only 3 more years and you'll have your first beer!

Even if underage marriage is acceptable in some cultures, Pedoking's intensions are clearly for having sex with minors.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: I hate naggers on July 09, 2015, 11:32:13 AM
Just because you can pick up a gun doesn't mean you can handle your liquor.
jesus fucking christ, you agree with that. now i have cancer, have to un-read your post
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 09, 2015, 11:40:56 AM

Just because you can pick up a gun doesn't mean you can handle your liquor.
jesus fucking christ, you agree with that. now i have cancer, have to un-read your post

Sure I do, I met many young military vets. But some just can't handle their alcohol.


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 09, 2015, 02:19:34 PM
People shouldn't be allowed to drink until they turn 25, and then they should have to drink all the time.
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 09, 2015, 03:10:21 PM

People shouldn't be allowed to drink until they turn 25, and then they should have to drink all the time.

Like Pirates of the Caribbean??


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Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Nox on July 09, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
winchester = 655 posts

625 of those posts = replied to equinox



yep. pathetic, the guy wouldnt exist without the other, just like harry potter and voldemort


I existed quite well without him on the occult forums. But your dumb polack brain surely can't remember that.  Sorry for your pathetic genes. Maybe you can get Equinox to roll the dice for some better genes in your next life.



(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/615564winchesterreadytofucked.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=615564winchesterreadytofucked.jpg)
Title: Re: Betrayal from tk[as]
Post by: Winchester on July 09, 2015, 05:11:36 PM
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