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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: ~ToRa~ on November 04, 2017, 10:57:40 PM
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I am officially resigning as war2 admin as of today effective immediately.
I joined the admin team about 2 years ago in the winter of 2015. I became admin in order to help grow the server community due to its dwindling numbers. It's been a good and fun ride these past 2 years however due to differences with the current admin team and player base I believe the time has come for me to resign.
The current admin team consists of IL, Blid, mousetopher, and myself.
IL- Il is the one who created this server. He is the one who has released all the patches and bug fixes up to this point. He is decent guy however he is extremely busy and has been unable release any patches of fixes in the past 2 years. I have pmed Il on multiple occasions asking him to let me hire a programmer to help him get things fixed more quickly. He has refused all my inquires and has been unwilling to hire outside help.
Blid- Blid is the longest tenured admin on the server. Many admins have gone MIA and disappeared but Blid has never done that. In 2015 I msged Blid and let him know how I felt about the state of the server. I requested he help me host monthly GOW tournaments to help boost the player base. Shortly afterwards he told me I should become admin which I accepted. Since becoming and serving as admin for 2 years it has been made plain that Blid is part of what is wrong with war2.
Blid insists on smurfing every time he logs on the server and refuses to ever play on his actual name. The guy never hosts games for the community and never talks to anyone on the actual server. In the past 2 years since I have become admin his contributions have been extremely minimal and have done virtually nothing help the player base. His main contribution and the reason he remains as admin is because he is "smart, mature, and responsible." Unfortunately intelligence isn't enough of a contribution to remain in such a high position for such a long time. Blid essentially has the ability to veto any decision I or anyone else makes without consultation from the community.
Example: Recently Ripe[Eur0] posted some garbage in the general section about attacking immigrants in Finland. Blid perma banned him over it and refused to lift the ban despite Ripe apologizing for it and saying he wasn't thinking clearly and he didn't mean it.
There are other examples as well but the bottom line is i'm currently not getting along with the admin team.
It makes no sense for me to be working with people who have limited vision for the future, do basically nothing, and yet insist their way is the right way.
Mouetopher- I like mousey she has made great contributions and her positives far outweigh her negatives. Which is why I will refrain from saying anything ill of her.
The player base- The war2 player base is extremely loyal to the game. It takes a certain kind of person to continue to play the same game for over 20 years. The player base is are very passionate about the game however they are highly flawed in many areas. The majority of the player base is unwilling to play with newer players. They scream they want war2 to be the way it was back in the early 2000s however they refuse to sacrifice their own entertainment to achieve that goal.
Bottom line is I joined this admin team to try and increase the player base and improve the server. To an extent I do believe I achieved that goal, however the current vision for the future of the server is differing from my own. Which is why I am now resigning from my current role as administrator of warcraft 2.
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who should fill your place?
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welcome to my world ... this server needs to DRAIN THE SWAMP! ... and start from scratch if it has any chance of ever being "Great again!" ... cant get shit done when iL is MIA 90% of the time, and the person he appears to delegate most of his authority to has zero interest on the actual gaming side... except smurfing and gaming once in a blue moon.
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To be honest though .. i just kinda always assumed iL left decision making to Blid. For all I know that's not true. Blid might just act like he's iL's right hand man. Could be just a fake ass front. Who knows. Would be interesting to see someone try to override Blid and see how iL handles it.
Blid needs to go and has needed to go for a long ass time now... assuming the prosperity of the server is the #1 priority any way.
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Wish things went better. Wish my experience was just a fluke .. but unfortunately comforting to know someone else sees what i saw. experienced some of the same things i experienced while i was admin. maybe people will start to listen. maybe wishful thinking.
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Doing away with smurfing somehow would make everything better. Action item#1
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You can't resign. You have to defend your title in the Admin tag series.
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absence of iL is the worst one. even the most passtionate people encounter this brick wall eventually
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Il was online 2 days ago.. Its bad news for w2, anyway thanks tora for everything
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Tora, admin isn't an easy job. You've decided to step away from it, but perhaps one day in the future return!
Hope you stay active in the community!
Thanks for all the good you did do for our little W2-loving group of people and all the ways you helped keep the enjoyment of this awesome game alive for everyone! :)
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What will happen with master theard? will u continue it? or its over? tours?
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Il was online 2 days ago..
iL played in the tournament 2 days ago)
http://www.war2.ru/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2292&forum=28#16159 (http://www.war2.ru/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2292&forum=28#16159)
But he comes on the server very rarely.
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who should fill your place?
What will happen with master theard? will u continue it? or its over? tours?
The server will be fine without me being admin. I don't plan the quit war2 entirely. I will still make my morning hosting rounds and i'll still be around to an extent.
I don't know what will happen to some of the projects I started. Most likely one or two members will need to step up and assume more responsibility.
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Thank you for all your work that was done. Hopefully some of your ideas will somehow work and after you will stop being an admin. Master challenge i a very nice ideea...
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That sucks, thanks for what you've done. I think the worst of this is how you offered to hire programmers to fix outstanding issues and they were refused. Complete bullshit.
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Only way this community will be around for more than a couple more years is if a few of us can get together and start a new server. People who are proactive. I'm not opposed to funding some of the costs if it has enough support and seems like a realistic possibility
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hahah, tk has been waiting his whole life for this thread :D
Mouetopher- I like mousey she has made great contributions and her positives far outweigh her negatives. Which is why I will refrain from saying anything ill of her
yay thanks man ! i wonder if i'd win an admin popularity contest at this point, hahahahaha
Blid essentially has the ability to veto any decision I or anyone else makes without consultation from the community.
Example: Recently Ripe[Eur0] posted some garbage in the general section about attacking immigrants in Finland. Blid perma banned him over it and refused to lift the ban despite Ripe apologizing for it and saying he wasn't thinking clearly and he didn't mean it.
this sounds incorrect. iL didn't weigh in, thus it was a 3 way decision, blid presented his case & i didn't oppose it, thus blid & i were effectively in agreement. Ripe saying x after the fact sounds like a meaningless token symbolic gesture anyway
You can't resign. You have to defend your title in the Admin tag series.
rofl BURTONNNNNN
absence of iL is the worst one. even the most passtionate people encounter this brick wall eventually
yeah. #hatecapitalism
That sucks, thanks for what you've done. I think the worst of this is how you offered to hire programmers to fix outstanding issues and they were refused. Complete bullshit.
the situation is more complex than "Tora was willing to save everything & iL said no" -- i doubt Tora would be willing to put up the cash needed to 1. hire anyone decent 2. fix all problems and 3. do it without iL's guidance through the maze of existing pvpgn customizations (as he has no time to offer it). the alternative is to start from scratch which is certainly possible & maybe the best course but that'd probably cost even more. like tk says it'd be great if anyone who has the means could eventually do that & probably the only way the war2 population could make any kind of meaningful comeback.
anti-admin camp, please present all arguments to the following -- the server is a public utility hosted & operated by volunteers for free for everyone's enjoyment, thus no one has any obligation to do anything to enhance it, thus no one is at fault for lacking the resources to continue their volunteer efforts at any time or in any capacity. the alternative to an imperfect volunteer server is no server. (although a better server would of course be better! but having anything is still great!)
furthermore, anyone can step up & offer to contribute at any time, and sometimes people do! and that's nice. Tora has done great work hosting tournies & very generously put up his time & cash for that and other things. hail!
finally, the idea that blid operating in the capacity that he does impedes the functioning of the server in any way is entirely unsubstantiated.
i contend these to be the TRUE FACTS about wc2. thank you good night
(wow 77 people online rn, so good)
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"hahah, tk has been waiting his whole life for this thread" ... no, not exactly. but it's definitely reassuring knowing im not the only one who saw this b.s.
and no it's really not any more complex than " "Tora was willing to save everything & iL said no" ... that's exactly how it goes. I dealt with the exact same b.s. as an admin. Most recently (while not an admin) i identified what seems to be a damn good fix for the hosting issue we've been talking about the last decade. Firewall hole punching is the term i believe. I gave links to the information and programmers for hire who were familiar with it and would know how to do it... and offered to fund/contribute. They ignored it. Completely ignored it.
"the server is a public utility hosted & operated by volunteers for free for everyone's enjoyment, thus no one has any obligation to do anything to enhance it" ... I personally think that's b.s.. If someone is spending their time and energy trying to enhance a project, and someone else who gives essentially zero contributions to that project stands in your way.. that's a problem... and im sorry but moving a thread around or locking a thread every blue moon is not a serious contribution. If he's still paying for the server I am 100% confident there are other people willing to take on the responsibility of 20-30 bucks a month. and i'm one of them
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Quote from: Player on Today at 01:22:01 PM
That sucks, thanks for what you've done. I think the worst of this is how you offered to hire programmers to fix outstanding issues and they were refused. Complete bullshit.
the situation is more complex than "Tora was willing to save everything & iL said no" -- i doubt Tora would be willing to put up the cash needed to 1. hire anyone decent 2. fix all problems and 3. do it without iL's guidance through the maze of existing pvpgn customizations (as he has no time to offer it). the alternative is to start from scratch which is certainly possible & maybe the best course but that'd probably cost even more. like tk says it'd be great if anyone who has the means could eventually do that & probably the only way the war2 population could make any kind of meaningful comeback.
Here are some of my conversations I've had with IL over the past 2 years.
Hey IL,
I don't know if you read the forums very much, but there's been a lot of discontent among the users.
They all want things done quickly and efficiently. I realize you are busy and have your own deadlines to get things done.
However I was wondering if there was a way that maybe we can expedite the process.
Right now Blid tells me right now you are working on the competing the anti hack with a hard ware ban.
Would you be interested in maybe accepting some outside help from say a private contractor?
It shouldn't be to difficult finding one from say
[url]http://www.guru.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.guru.com/[/url])
Hi, Tora!
Well, i'm very busy with my real life and my main work also, so i paused my war2 projects for a while.
Yes, i plan to improve my antihack soon, that just needs to think hard, so i still paused also.
Not sure how to use some outside help, previous tries (from other community member) haven't been succeed.
I don't think that it could be easy to find anybody who will make something perfect to use for us.
My previous experience shows that solutions becomes unusable and i have to remake them from scratch.
We talked with Lance about some help from his side, he looks like he could be useful, but he disappeared also.
That's also not so easy to find the way to split the antihack task to several people. I know what i want and i have some self-made code, but nobody will continue another's code, so then i need to split project so several parts and to give another part to anyone else...
I still hope i'll find enough time to finish that project for myself soon...
There are some more projects for war2 instead of antihack, but nobody want to work on that...
Hey IL how is everything?
I wanted to see what the update is with ther server situation. And how things are coming along.
I think I saw u mention u may need to change the server again or get some protection. If that is the case and you are short on funds, I wanted to let u know I am more than willing to sponser a more expensive server platform provided it does a good job.
Also if you are busy with work and what not I am also willing to supplement any loss of income u might encounter for time spent on working the server.
Hope to hear back from u soon.
Hi, Tora!
Nice to see you are here and ready to help!
I think our first task should be to get our plan: should we stay on linode, to return back to inferno or to setup some new hosting.
Implementing any additional proxying host (like cloudflare) could be checked, but i don't think it will give us some reasonable performance.
Hi IL,
Im back from vacation and I was wondering what was the update with the whole server hosting.
I think we discussed raising the memory for the server and what not.
Hi, ToRa!
I still didn't have enough time for the war2 to move it to new hosting, plan to do it soon...
Honestly IL im not very educated on software programming and what not.
However I willing to sponsor whatever hosting you decide to do.
Thank you, Blid is paying $10 per month for hosting already. I don't think we would need much more than $10 per month, there are some different hostings with ddos protection in range $10-20 per month. I just hoped Linode will be ok against simple ddos attacks, maybe it will, let me check that for several few days. Lance and GruntX tries to help me also.
I also didn't plan to ask any compensation for my time for 2 reasons: 1. it's just my hobby and i do it for fun. 2. I can't guarantee any successful result for some short time. I just do what i can i try to resolve the problem as quick as i can.
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^^Over the course of my tenure as admin I pmed IL numerous times. War2 is IL's hobby and for whatever reason he is unwilling to accept outside help.
Do I know how much it would cost to hire a programmer and get things fixed? No. However I was and am willing to find out how much it would cost. Also I am willing to raise the funds from the community myself included to pay for any said fixes. IL has never allowed me to help him fix issues with the server. That is the truth.
finally, the idea that blid operating in the capacity that he does impedes the functioning of the server in any way is entirely unsubstantiated.
I don't believe blid being admin "impedes" the functioning of the server. The problem I have with him is that he has done virtually nothing to help the server in the past two years. (the server having 77 users today wasn't a result of blid's recent contributions.)
I log 2-4 hours war2 gaming every morning averaging 20-25 hours a week. I play more in a week that blid does in a month. As do many other players on the server.
Furthermore he hasn't even logged on his actual name and played in years.
http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=blid (http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=blid)
Many players don't browse the forums and their only interactions with admins are on the server.
I am calling into question Blid's passion for this game. What exactly has he done in the past 2 years? And why exactly is he given administrator status?
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i dont believe ive ever said anything untrue about convos me and u have had. this is the first you've mentioned it. feel free to correct me if im wrong and be a little bit specific if u can
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I have no clue the topic it was in. You just said something to the extent of having conversations with both me and blid, where we said other things about one another. I am sure blid recalls it too. I remember asking him on AIM about it if he really had a convo because I know I didn't. I told you to post the conversation to prove you had it.
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If XuRnT ever banned anybody, they deserved it.
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also yeah .. i do like you. i like blid too. i like my boss at work too... but that doesn't mean i don't believe blid is destructive (maybe not intentionally) as admin. That doesnt mean i think my boss should be a boss. I can like people, but still believe they are 100% wrong for the position they're in. blid shouldnt be an admin. plain and simple
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we have had private conversations "talking shit" about blid or other admins .. things we were upset about. i had conversations with blid where he was talking shit about iL too .. complaining that iL thinks Americans are made of money .. iL changed server hosts (more expensive) without ever asking Blid if he'd mind paying the extra) .. had no desire to ever look through all of the conversations to find those small pieces. people believe me or they dont idc. ive never intentionally been dishonest about anything on these forums or in the community
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Alright here we go tk I found the post
blid would you like me to post some of your logs? ... is this the game you want to play? want me to show the ones about you talking about LB.. burnt... or the ones about iL ?
Let's see the logs!
its not gonna happen. blid knows what was said. everything was said in private.
im not going to play this shit
burnt.. me and u have had quite a few of discussions in private about other admins as well.. if i were to show private conversations between me and other admins, it would only be fair i showed ours as well, no? -,-
Show it all!
burnt has done a lot. i know... im just letting him know all of us have said things in private about eachother. so i would appreciate it if he of all people not instigate this already shitty situation
Show anything I have said about admins tk...
If I said something you or they feel is wrong let us have it out there.
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do u have this stuff saved in notepad or something?! lol. honestly i dont even remember the things we were discussing. but there have been multiple occasions where all of us have complained about things each other are doing or not doing. if u believe that's untrue of me to say so be it. not going to post logs.. not going to search through the text to find the logs.
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@XuRnT that was a very long and detailed post. But after reading it I have decided to resume my duties as admin.
You were very passionate in that post and it would be wrong for me to ignore yours and the communities plea.
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WTF. iL is a legend. What problems need to be fixed? Game is fine, no need for any crying or reality TV drama here. Thanks to iL for always looking after us.
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WTF. iL is a legend. What problems need to be fixed? Game is fine, no need for any crying or reality TV drama here. Thanks to iL for always looking after us.
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djkahn, someone needs to find him!force him back into messing with war2 :P
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@XuRnT that was a very long and detailed post. But after reading it I have decided to resume my duties as admin.
You were very passionate in that post and it would be wrong for me to ignore yours and the communities plea.
That's such a relief, gj Xurnt
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Disregard initial "I'm resigning" post? .. Best of luck getting cooperation in the future after all of this =/
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I could message iL right now and say.. hey iL I am ready to be admin.. and do whatever I want to do.. and step all over Blids toes.. but ya know what ~Tora~ .. we are making this game stay stable and keeping the userbase here and that's all that matters to me at the end of the day..
This is what made me decide to recide my resignation. Xurnt is right we are all trying to make to keep game stable and help grow the userbase. Me resigning does create more needless problems.
Thou be on the look out new admins. We plan to promote a couple people.
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WTF. iL is a legend. What problems need to be fixed? Game is fine, no need for any crying or reality TV drama here. Thanks to iL for always looking after us.
For example hosting games?
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I love how Burnt phrases this in Star Wars terms. “Those who sit upon the war2 High Council” =)
IL is like Snoke a dark mysterious creature who seldomly pops up.
Burnt is like Annakin Sky Walker our supposed savior & best hope, but The Dark Warrior lives beneath the surface.
Tora is Qui Qon JIN^ Will resign at a moments notice to do whats right and follow his heart!
Mousey is like Count Doo KOO- A fabled ally of the REPUBLIC while secretely serving as a Proxy for Lance to subvert and take over the
server when the Moment is right to Strike! The CLoned Server exists for a reason and $pace is the Sith Lord vanquished from the REALM>
Blid is basically Uncle Owen - The Reclusive Hermit who acts as the Fun police! NO racing, NO 2on2 Ladder functionality GET OFF MY LAWN>>>>
Axo is Obe 1 Kanobi - No longer serves an active roll but still wields immense power and influence upon the war2 High Council!
Djinkhan - Luke Skywalker, The man has saved the lives of countless peons with his latency hack and war vid tutorials^^
Also resposbile for providing definitive proof catching Los Isely SCUM VALKRIE - Map Hacking in a replay
Ywfn - Yoda, Oldest and wisest war2 player out there^^
Jordan4358- JAR JAR BINKS , WHOOOsaa OKEY DAYYY
Gotta admire the passion Torra, but it’s hard for us to evaluate some of your claims with out specifics. What specific changes do you envision for the server short and long term? Maybe it would be possible for you to implement some of these on Mousey’s server in a Beta capacity and maybe some of them will be worthy of evaluation by IL at the appropriate time, if they prove successful.
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Doing away with smurfing somehow would make everything better. Action item#1
LOL. Yes, telling people what they can and cannot make as their screen names and how they can behave should make things better. God dam commie bastards. Blids a freaking socializer and he even knows that would not end well.
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WTF. iL is a legend. What problems need to be fixed? Game is fine, no need for any crying or reality TV drama here. Thanks to iL for always looking after us.
Smartest thing shotgun has ever said, besides garlic bread is the best. and dugs is gay.
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Only way this community will be around for more than a couple more years is if a few of us can get together and start a new server. People who are proactive. I'm not opposed to funding some of the costs if it has enough support and seems like a realistic possibility
blah blah blah. You guys have been working this narrative for 10 years now. You have no idea what it took to do what IL and team have done on the back and front end.
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Furthermore he hasn't even logged on his actual name and played in years.
[url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=blid[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=blid[/url])
Many players don't browse the forums and their only interactions with admins are on the server.
blid is a habitual smurfer. probably logged more games on his smurfs than you have in 5 years.
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I have no clue the topic it was in. You just said something to the extent of having conversations with both me and blid, where we said other things about one another. I am sure blid recalls it too. I remember asking him on AIM about it if he really had a convo because I know I didn't. I told you to post the conversation to prove you had it.
tk is a habitual drama creator.
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Jordan is a habitual homosexual
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I was admin with access to database. Tora had access I believe. I know how often Blid played for a Year or two. It was minimally at best.
IL has done a ton for the server .. But running a successful server that at the very least maintains its user base does not mean you make some updates/mods and then go ghost mode.. Its a continuous process.
Stop being retarded
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I was admin with access to database. Tora had access I believe. I know how often Blid played for a Year or two. It was minimally at best.
IL has done a ton for the server .. But running a successful server that at the very least maintains its user base does not mean you make some updates/mods and then go ghost mode.. Its a continuous process.
Stop being retarded
Blid uses witopia to smurf, i let me use my account. jokes on you, newb. one time tk banned my name 2gays1esn, i guess he didnt like it. Who is going to join a server whose admin bans names ?
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lol yo tk... tora saw me being friendly and playing actively, to the tune of hundreds of games, on one of my smurfs that he knows about. he just is mad i smurf or whatever
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il is dating and shit ..he is not gonna be in alot
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Who is going to join a server whose admin bans names
Alot of games ban people for offensive usernames. Though war2 shouldn't be one of them considering its community lol
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blid is a blatant idiot. and Il is competely gone.
obviously TK is right in saying it all needs to be redone.
I tried accomplishing this myself in what ways I could, with war2 custom ( which is far superior to war2combat in every way)
When that project failed, war2 lost like 50% of it's player base in disappointment.
Of course lance was a shit person, but a great developer. It's hard to say how war2 custom would have turned out, but I think lance would of been a necessary evil, and honestly what's the worst he could have done? There's being able to do something, and then facing the consequences.
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Well, just looked into the forum:
First of all: i'm really busy again in different projects which are as interesting as war2.ru, but have focus to earning money. So, my priority is moved to them. But i still have desire to improve and grow up war2.ru project. Very sad to come and say "yes, good idea, but i have no time again".
the situation is more complex than "Tora was willing to save everything & iL said no" -- i doubt Tora would be willing to put up the cash needed to 1. hire anyone decent 2. fix all problems and 3. do it without iL's guidance through the maze of existing pvpgn customizations (as he has no time to offer it). the alternative is to start from scratch which is certainly possible & maybe the best course but that'd probably cost even more. like tk says it'd be great if anyone who has the means could eventually do that & probably the only way the war2 population could make any kind of meaningful comeback.
The main problem is really "the maze of existing pvpgn customizations".
I think that works not so bad to delete it and start from scratch. I think evolution way would be much better than revolution one.
I'm ready to give some kind of API to people who want and can make something useful based on currently working software.
I think the best way in current situation: i have enough time for some emergency situations (like restart server, fix the database, etc), i also can find enough time to make some kind of quick hook for you if you are ready to make your own job related to war2.
The main problem is there's no people who want and can do things. At least i don't see these people.
Let me detail and structure the todo requests as i understand them:
1. social questions.
"Blid is bad, he banned me unfairly", etc.
Well, we have a team of admins who at least proved they keep the community for years.
XuRnT, Blid, Mousey, Tora, w/e? I hope all the social questions could be resolved without my attention. No technical knowledge requires for that questions. So i just try to go far from that part.
2. technical questions
let's look detailed:
2.1. questions that are not highly attached to current war2.ru infrastructure:
based on popular requests:
"let's make war2 with high quality resolution"
"let's make war2 working under linux"
"let's fix hosting for lags/closed ports clients"
please, append this list if you remember more...
This list could be implemented by anybody who want and know how.
No relation to "busy admins".
2.2. requests about new revisions for currently working software.
"let's update combat and add features x,y,z into it".
"let's make several improvements/add improvements on the bnet-server".
"let's finish antihack, make it catching hackers and make it mandatory".
That is really a problem as requires my active attention.
Let me explain the problems:
2.2.1. combat:
well, i can see 3 high-priority things:
- to add ddraw natively, not like "try 4, if not working try 3, if not working try 2". Need to follow next-next-next-next-finish and enjoy.
if anyone knows how to integrate current 4 ddraws into combat, would be great to do that.
As an option i see: a console application that checks if shaders or w/e are available on the current system and return errorlevel.
Could be called on installation process so select proper ddraw version.
Source code would be also appreciated. With no monstrous frameworks on libraries, clean winapi is welcomed.
Can anybody make such application or hire a programmer for that?
- to add dep exclusion on installation process for win10. If you use DEP activated on your win system, war2 will crash on start. You should add it to DEP exclusions.
My command: rundll32.exe sysdm.cpl, NoExecuteAddFileOptOutList ""{app}\Warcraft II BNE.exe""
That worked on win-vista/7/8/8.1, but not working anymore on 10.
Need a new command that will work on 10.
Also not sure if firewall working or not: "netsh.exe firewall add allowedprogram " and "netsh.exe firewall add portopening protocol"
If it's working on 10 or not. Need your help with that.
-to add videos/music to combat. Requires 600Mb on the hosting. Not sure i have enough space, but well, i'll find it if dep and ddraw will be resolved.
As soon as dep and ddraw problems will be resolved, i'll release new version.
2.2.2: bnet-server improvements:
yes, i remember somebody asked me about some kind of backend for his project, i still didn't make it. I said: "do it and i'll add the backend interface for you". Looks like i didn't get a confirmation the project is finished and my part required. Maybe i'm wrong, i'll look what happened with that project.
But there have been only 1 case when somebody really made (or tried to make) something.
Other conversations just stayed on the step "let's do that or that"...
Let me know if i forgot something.
2.2.3: antihack
Well, my fault i think. Looks like i still have no time to continue that project, so maybe would be better to admin i will no have time for that in the future.
Looks like we can try to attract a programmer who will have enough time and knowlegde for that. Also important condition: he should be a trusted person.
Also, i don't see such person in our community. I also not sure if that will be easy to hire such programmer who can make working code and make it updatable. If you find some random guy on some kind of freelance exchange, he will most likely release some kind of trash that you will have to rewrite from scratch when you want to update it. Also he should be trustworthy.
I can make the detailed specification for such antihack, how it should look like and programmed.
2.3 questions related to site&forum
looks like no problem with that, mousey is great and active admin who always ready to help with anything related to web questions.
My thoughts and offers:
The most problem is nobody can really make and implement some technical solutions for the project. For example, you can make an antihack, but yon need the server-side part of check clients, otherwise client doesn't make sense.
One good programmer is Lance, he can do that (if he have time, most likely he is not), but looks like he is not fully trusted.
Another guy who probably can is USA~Archer, but he makes some useful program by one hand and hacks the server by another one at the same time.
So, if you are a trusted person and you are ready to make some job yourself, you're welcomed for that. Important thing, is you should understand how to integrate it into current infrastructure (i have enough time to explain specifical details you can't know).
The problem is everybody who have skill, have no time and work on war2 for fun.
Looks like need to collect all the wishes related to technical questions in one place. To look and see.
Very difficult to observe all the requests spreaded by the whole forum.
Maybe to run some kind of the bugtracker or w/e to collect incidents/issues/wishes
Or just to make thread with such TODO list on the forum? Maybe some of them could be resolved easily by me or by somebody else?
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lamb has built the build hack detector. that may be useful in tools download or included in ru future build.
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This is all a bunch of blabbering bullshit. I log on every day play games for hours and have literally 0 issues with anything. The game works, games are played, and people come back. All this bitching an moaning is worthless. As far as I can see someone (I dont really care who) put a lot of time an effort into making the game work for me and im happy that it does. You all sound like a bunch of highschool girls whinning about nothing... Play the game and stfu. gg no re. Also, Thanks Tora for everything. Youve always been there to help me with any issues ive had.
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WTF. iL is a legend. What problems need to be fixed? Game is fine, no need for any crying or reality TV drama here. Thanks to iL for always looking after us.
Exactly what I said... 100% agree SG.
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lamb has built the build hack detector. that may be useful in tools download or included in ru future build.
Anybody have the source code? I saw that, looked great, but i didn't see it's code. As i understood he even use cryptors for his projects.
Would be interesting to include as a part of another tool, but could also be interesting as a standalone thing.
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wouldnt it be gooder to just create a launcher for w2, necessary to log in + memory protection? like bwlauncher
AH in its current form wont prevent dirty hax0rs from hax0ring
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wouldnt it be gooder to just create a launcher for w2, necessary to log in + memory protection? like bwlauncher
AH in its current form wont prevent dirty hax0rs from hax0ring
We can do that easily! But iL has built the antihack into the loader so it won't be shared to other developers.
You also have to add your new exe for the Warcraft 2 crash fix. When you multimage with a building war2 will crash.
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would there even be need for AH if we had that?
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wouldnt it be gooder to just create a launcher for w2, necessary to log in + memory protection? like bwlauncher
My opinion is that is more weak protection as hacker have to just kill it on his computer side some way and enjoy his hacks. Periodic synchronization with the server should be stronger against hackers. If you kill your antihack on the client side, you will be seen as a probable hacker.
Maybe no big deal, bwlauncher works fine and people enjoy using it. And that would be definitely better than what we have now.
If someone have a programmer who can make war2 launcher similar to bwlauncher, that could be also useable. As i see this option: server.war2.ru should check clients connecting with that launcher, so you need at least initial sync with the server. Something like certificate handshake between your client and the server. That certificate is what i have to install, everything else you can make yourself.
Of course, that antihack launcher should come from trusted person, to make people sure there's no trojans or backdoors inside it. Source code would be welcomed.
You also have to add your new exe for the Warcraft 2 crash fix. When you multimage with a building war2 will crash.
Oh, thx! Forgot about that, added
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I haven't been following these forms very closely in the past few years, so maybe I missed something, but this thread alone is fairly solid evidence as to why you need someone with the maturity level of blid or il in charge.
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Out of curiousity, if someone decided to develop any of the above, what level of skills would he need and how much time would these projects take approximately?