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1) Server.War2.ru / Re: Question for U8t3ior2d2c3polastjedi....
« on: January 12, 2018, 10:53:39 PM »
* Lambchops enjoys the view despite having to crane his neck to see past the enormous elephant in the room

2) General Discussion / Re: 'Murica thread
« on: January 12, 2018, 10:47:02 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/7psmgr/so_this_just_happened/

how long has american media been like this? i've mostly avoided mainstream media for a long time now.

I would laugh, but the sad truth is that this will probably win him votes.



3) General Discussion / Re: Some people
« on: January 12, 2018, 10:28:51 PM »
Ok, just briefly:

on the molten sea:

The words in the bible, which you say are infallible, are describing a molten sea and giving its dimensions. People can draw as many pretty pictures of excuses as they like. Which page of the bible is that illustration on?

If the bible is describing the diameter of one part of this vessel which contains the 'sea' then describing the circumferance of another part of it and attributing them both to the same thing, then that is an error intself.

Why would GOD in his perfect wisdom choose to provide these irrellivant dimensions in his all too brief accout to his beloved creations. Maybe GOD suggested to some MAN that "hey you should tell them about the molten sea, that's pretty cool" ... and then some man did his best to describe it, and just kinda roughed out the dimensions eh? Seems a bit more likely than the holy spirit commanding someone to accurately measure completely different parts of an odd shaped vessel then attribute the measurements to the contents of the vessel. Doesn't sound like the kind of mistake GOD would make, more like that of a man.

on wives and commandments.

Thats all nice and you can interpret it with nice unicorns and rainbows or as "her body is my body" i.e. "she is my property" and should respect me. That is about the interpretation, not the words.

Just please direct me to the passage in the bible that mentions consent, I mean if the holy spirit in its perfect wisdom thought we needed paragraphs incorrectly describing some old pot, surely there's a word or two in there on consent? As we are describing the perfect morals for all of humanity, I'm pretty sure that will be in there somewhere (hopefully carved into a stone tablet ;))

on multiple prefixes for the word "evolution".

Ok. Firstly, I'm not in a tizzy. I wouldn't tizzy at you :)
There was no confusion. The introduction of all these "diferent types of evolution" is just a word game that attempts to obfuscate the issue (hence propoganda). The fact that it comes from a religious source is evident because every one of them is described as being "the origin" of something. This is obviously written from a religious viewpoint as that is what gets creationists in a tizzy (lol) the origin of life.

As I said immediately prior to the quoted section "There is only one meaning for the word evolution, and that is not it. Evolution describes a change that happens over time, it does not describe the origin of any basic object, only how a system changes."

Even Darwin (who was neither prophert nor messiah, just a man with the start of an idea) entitled his book "on the origin of species" NOT "on the origin of life". It attempts to describe how life evolves over time, thereby how new species come about, it has nothing to do with how life was created in the first place.

on "proof"

There is an absolute mountain of evidence that proves evolution. Fossil records dating back millions of years. Just because you dont live long enough to see it happen in front of you does not mean it doesn't happen. I believe last time I had this discussion I ended up saying: I don't have to actually throw myself into the sun to prove I will be burnt, just knowing it's hot, and that hot things will burn me is sufficiant.

So how are you going at proving the existance of GOD? .... not like oh the world is so wonderful therefore GOD must have made it, I mean like maybe a fossilised GOD footprint or something?

      .... and BTW which page of the bible describes the computer you're using to post these messages? ;)

on hey you missed a bit

The bible was written by men right? I mean even if they are writing down what they remembered hearing Jesus say or whatever else was going on at the time, they were all just men ya? There is no gospel of Jesus, let alone a gospel of GOD. So then after these men wrote it down the way they remembered it, then other men transcribed what they had written multiple times, and into multiple languages. Then a bunch of men sat down and decided which of these stories they thought were best and which ones they didn't like, then they put those stories into a book and called it "The Bible" and declared it to be the word of GOD. Men did that right?

4) Server.War2.ru / Re: Question for U8t3ior2d2c3polastjedi....
« on: January 12, 2018, 04:36:01 AM »
* Lambchops looks at his feet, whistles, then looks out the window for a while, says nothing, and wanders away....  :blank:

5) General Discussion / Re: Some people
« on: January 11, 2018, 10:52:50 PM »
I have a moral code that does NOT include lying, cheating, stealing, raping, killing, bullying, racism, homophobia and a whole lot of other stuff that the bible is quite ok with.


The Bible isn't okay with these things.

Not all of them, and ....a whole lot of other stuff... and the bible has a very long history used of being used to justify hate crimes.

Tell me about your moral code? :)


I believe I just did give you a very simple outline above, but further to that....

What is right and wrong and how do you know?

What is that code based on?


.... the entire point is that we are required to take resposibility for our own deeds, to weigh the consequences of our actions and interactions and make judgement as to their virtue or malevolence based on what we find in our own souls. Life if far to complicated to just look up all the answers on a cheat-sheet. 

Furthermore no such cheat-sheet exists to cover all possible moral dilemmas. The obvious ones (Tho shalt not kill) seem easy but life is not always black and white.

If the physical is all there is, and there is no author of the universe, then how can there be a basis for morality?

How can there be a basis for reason, if our existence is a chance accident? How can we trust our thoughts? And why does it even matter?

If we randomly evolved following the explosion of nothing billions of years ago, on what can the concepts or ideas of "right" and "wrong" be based?


Now we are straying out of ethics and into general philosophy. I'm sorry if these questions are keeping you up at night, but I have no problem whatsoever with the notion that I have a moral obligation based simply on the fact that I am a sentient being that knows right from wrong, therefore I should behave appropriately or I am denying my own essece.

Neither a rock floating through space nor a venemous jelly-fish know right from wrong so cannot be judged for either wiping out the dinosaurs or fatally stinging a surfer.

I do, therefore I am, and should.

Also, if the device is "clearly very simple" as you suggest, then it should be an easy task for you to make one. I invite you to post pics and videos of your very simple creation. ;)


Haha, nice. If I still had my shed and all my tools actually I could reproduce that device. It would take many many hours of painstaking work, and I would never even consider doing it, but it is quite possible.

But as we are just talking about the complexity of the device, I (or you) could quite easily cut out scaled replicas of all the components out of construction paper without very much effort and thus demonstrate its relative simplicity.

None of us, with or without a shed, tools or construction paper is going to create an accurate representation of the complexity of a multi-core processor.... nice try ;)


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The real dilemma for me here is that I don't actually want to argue against your religion. I like you, bible and all. I am not the mean kid in the schoolyard that wants to take your bible and throw it on the roof, but please excuse me if I just read my science book ok?

                                                             :critter:


6) General Discussion / Re: Some people
« on: January 11, 2018, 09:46:15 PM »
Collins also contains the "word" MILF, that does't mean it isn't a term invented by people peddling online porn in the late '90s.

Are you saying your definition of evolution is different from the one in this dictionary?

My point was about the term "evolutionist" not the word "evolution". In fact that was the first dictionary definition you quoted. Pretty sure you are just trolling me now.

There are a number of different meanings for the word evolution and the different things that have come into existence.

No. There is only one meaning for the word evolution, and that is not it. Evolution describes a change that happens over time, it does not describe the origin of any basic object, only how a system changes.

Stellar evolution: the origin of stars
Chemical evolution: the origin of the elements
Cosmic evolution: the origin of time, space, matter from a "big bang" of nothing exploding into the universe
Organic evolution: the origin of life from non-life
Macro-evolution: the changing of.....
                                                ......ONLY micro-evolution is scientific
Ok if you really want to know then pay attention to this bit: None of those things are scientific. I'm pretty sure you've sourced them from some religious propoganda material or other, but I do know they didn't come from science or the correct definition of the word "evolution". This is just someone trying to construct a house of cards on top of a bed of split-hairs in order to deny the blatently obvious.

There is no known scientific mechanism that allows for the creation of new information required for new features, like wings or lungs or bones or kidneys or a mouth or feathers.

I believe it's called "evolution". It's a very well known, well studied and well documented process.

And the wings have to work properly the first time or the creature will just be carrying around extra weight and baggage that is both useless and cumbersome and would have no reason to be retained. Wings are clearly a designed feature that can't come into existence randomly or by trial and error or chance.

Spend enough time jumping from one tree to the next and the guy with the best surface area to mass ratio has an advantage --- SUGAR GLIDER

Same with an eye. You can't have a non-functioning eye that serves any purpose, being half-complete. The eye needs all the parts functioning correctly out of the gate for it to work.

Not if you are a simple prehistoric creature living in a swamp full of similar creatures and you just want to find the sun. Then all you need is a single photo-sensative cell and you can tell which way the top of the swamp is. This would be so helpfull that your offspring would continue to develop more of these cells.

How about the circulatory system. Which came first? Blood, blood vessels, or the heart? If you have blood but no ....  (etc)

Ok this is a good one. 1) blood 2)blood vessels/heart
Many simple creatures dont have a proper circulatory system, they just have their organs floating around in a bunch of goop. When they move the goop kinda squishes around. the next thing that develops is valves, which just have a tendancy to allow more goop to squish in one direction that the other, which encourages the goop to actually circulate. at this point the entire creature can be thought of as a heart ... or a blood vessel. Obviously over many generations the creature with the best circulation has a definate advantage so the system becomes more and more refined.

How about male/female? Which came first, the male or the female? If the male came first, where did he put the sperm while waiting for the female to evolve? If the female came first, how did she get pregnant to produce a child while waiting for the male to evolve?

You'll like this. hehe. men are a virus. way back when life was very simple a chunk of dna came about that worked by sticking its dna into something else and letting that thing replicate it, instead of replicating by itself. This was a massive boon for life because it enabled the transfer of genetic traits and encouraged diversity which led to much faster and more efficiant evolution. The sperm, the womb and all the related naughty bits evolved later once this system was already in place.

This is why, despite the fact that asexual reproduction was around first, the forms of life that have evolved from the sexually reproductive branch (plants/animals/us!) have evolved much further in a shorter amount of time than the asexual forms of life like bacteria, which remain very simple.


Ok, now I've explained some evolution to you, here's a couple of questions:


The bible was written by men right? I mean even if they are writing down what they remembered hearing Jesus say or whatever else was going on at the time, they were all just men ya? There is no gospel of Jesus, let alone a gospel of GOD. So then after these men wrote it down the way they remembered it, then other men transcribed what they had written multiple times, and into multiple languages. Then a bunch of men sat down and decided which of these stories they thought were best and which ones they didn't like, then they put those stories into a book and called it "The Bible" and declared it to be the word of GOD. Men did that right?

As I understand it the bible tells you not to covert another man's wife (with the implication that she is his property), but it doesn't say you shouldn't rape your own wife ya? ... or famale slaves, or children?? (altar boys spring to mind!).... now I'm certainly not saying that GOD didn't forbid these things when he was spelling out our morals for us, but perhaps some MEN edited those bits out?

Hehe... also the bible says that PI = 3 ..... Yeah like I'm pretty damn sure GOD knows how to draw a circle, but I'm guessing that the men who were writing all this stuff down then rewriting it etc. probably didnt have the math skills to write down 3.14159265358979323846 so they just kinda rounded it down ya?.... the word of GOD.... they just kinda.... sorta... rounded it down a bit - ya?  ???




7) Server.War2.ru / Re: serious question
« on: January 11, 2018, 10:19:30 AM »
I got a kitchenaid 4 slice toaster for myself for Christmas and it's really good.  learning that I like to set the darkness to 5 for Ego waffles, but only a 2 for poptarts.  I get these big soft Snyders pretzels from the freezer aisle and those i set the darkness to 3-4 and they come out nice and toasted on the outside and soft and warm on the inside.

Nice man, that sounds like a seriously above average 4 slice toaster :)

8) Server.War2.ru / Re: serious question
« on: January 11, 2018, 09:34:41 AM »
Everyone knows "Allah" means "God" in Arabic right?

Yeah, and it's exactly the same GOD that the hebrews and the christians worship, they just bicker about the propherts.

9) Server.War2.ru / Re: serious question
« on: January 11, 2018, 06:24:36 AM »
why do you think your opinion matters? youre juts frustrated because out of your home and at difficult time of life, is ok, but its stupid of you to think that i care about literally anything you idiots post about richard dawkins.
a wanna-be non-hacker and someone denying evolution

Ok, that was much better. Well done :)

.... and for the record I havn't posted anything about richard dawkins, whoever that is.

10) Server.War2.ru / Re: serious question
« on: January 11, 2018, 04:11:39 AM »
well for starters you just called Lambchops a newb faggot whom I've never seen being mean to anyone.

Aww thanks @BabyShark :D I missed that one.

So for the record @jordan4385, I'm actually a non-homophobic newb hetro, so I don't actually take that as an insult. On the other hand if I was a gay newb I would probably take offence at the term 'faggot' and call you a cock-juggling lamer with the IQ of an average 4-slice toaster, but hey, I really don't care that much  ;)

-- edit --

Oh yeah on further investigation I think you meant to call Sentinal1 a newb faggot, not me. np stuff happens... and BTW I really don't give a toss who sucks who's weiner around here.


how can you be aware of richard dawkins..... almost made a point then totally blew it by spraying a bunch of inaccurate and irrellivant hate-fuelled abuse

Do you realise how utterly retarded you have to be to make me stick up for the fundementalist christian in a discussion like this? OMG how do you fail that hard? Ima call your mom right now and tell her to slap some decency into you.

11) Server.War2.ru / Re: serious question
« on: January 11, 2018, 03:52:50 AM »
... so how are we on the whole IP scanner issue? Does GOD approve or is it a false IP scanner?

12) General Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin Friends
« on: January 11, 2018, 03:43:32 AM »
lots of people like to collect useless action figures and keep them in the boxes and they can be expensive.  or old baseball cards.  so i guess bitcoin can have value sort of like that....

"For Sale: Original mint condition first release bitcoin. As new. Still in wallet. Will sell for 2 bitcoins or trade for galvanized box-trailer. Please forward photo of box trailer."

                ;D ROTF In hysterics ;D

I've been thinking of investing heavily into 'Poet Technology'. I've heard its technology is about to have a major breakthrough and once that happen I don't even think the sky is the limit.

hehe :thumbsup: nice one alf

13) General Discussion / Re: Some people
« on: January 11, 2018, 03:17:04 AM »
Where is the evidence that this old corroded box of gears ever did anything at all... let alone that it's a computer.... let alone that it's "highly advanced"?

Actually looked up the wikipedia page for this, it's a really interesting thing. From the inscriptions it was designed to plot the planetary rotations etc. There is a huge amount of conjecture about what it would have contained and there are various reconstructions based more on "what would have been there to do what they wanted" than what is actually in the remains. But even the experts that have spent years studying it say it is "one of the great wonders of the ancient world—but it didn’t really work very well!".

I think it is a facinating and wonderful ancient artifact - but comparing it against my computer that can look up it's wikipedia page and post on the forum at the same time as also calculate the positions of all the planets correctly, not to mention the X-Ray CT technology used to investigate the remains it's not really proof that technology is 'devolving' is it?

14) General Discussion / Re: Some people
« on: January 11, 2018, 02:33:23 AM »
 ::) *SIGH* ok I'll try to make this brief, and only cos I like you. BUT you have to promise not to get offended ok? So just remember you like me and you asked!

According to Collins English Dictionary (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/evolutionist)......

Collins also contains the "word" MILF, that does't mean it isn't a term invented by people peddling online porn in the late '90s.

The creationist viewpoint comes from the bible, it is part of belief system (i.e. Christianity) that governs how people view the world, how they should behave in it, their moral code, their view of history etc.... just about everything.

Adding an "ist" onto the end of the word evolution implies that anyone who understands the evolutionary process is a member of some other competing cult that is trying to replace religion with its own version. This is quite frankly laughable.


After millions of years of evolution humans have finally developed self-awareness. This is a very new thing.
I'd be interested in any evidence you have to support this claim.

Hmm. Well if you don't believe in evolution, then you don't. I have already wasted a fair bit of time discussing the proof of evolution in another thread, I really don't feel like looking it up and quoting it here because I don't actually think you're interested in it, only using it as a vehicle to propose that it is invalid. If you were actually interested in learning I would be far more inclined to spend my time teaching you about it.

Please feel free to provide any evidence you have that a single word in the bible is true. No no, don't paste that youtube link - I'll save you the trouble. There isn't any. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Nothing (that's the whole 'faith' bit right?).... but if it makes you feel better, then I'm happy that it works for you.

Just because I understand the evolutionary process does not mean that I use it as a philosophical base for how I live my life. Understanding what happened to get us to where we are does not legislate that as how we should move forward.
I absolutely believe that how one believes governs how one behaves. If one believes ...... their own professed belief system by asserting values ...... "lying", "cheating", "stealing", etc., which in their belief system ....

Really you are smart enough to understand this. This is the whole point. Evolution is not a "belief system". It's just what happened while life was evolving. I also know what happened in World War II, but understanding that does not mean that I want to start shooting people.

I have a moral code that does NOT include lying, cheating, stealing, raping, killing, bullying, racism, homophobia and a whole lot of other stuff that the bible is quite ok with. The notion that my morals have anything to do with my understanding of how life evolved is utter nonsense, and I think by now you should know me well enough to know that.

A couple of thousand years ago they were still nailing people to crosses. In another couple of thousand years I'm sure we will all have a better understanding of how to move forward. These are still turbulent times.
People are still being killed by crucifixion today. (link to list of horrible deaths)

Hmm. Well a few hundred years ago it was commonplace for 'kings' to have dungeons where they could lock up whoever they wanted and torture them with an array of horrific devices. This was normal and accepted. It's true that some people still do this sort of thing but these days we tend to hunt them down and remove them from society. Not perfect, but an improvment.


The idea that people are improving and advancing is entirely false. If anything, people are devolving, and I think there's evidence to support the idea that people were much more intelligent in the past than they are toda...... (link to some article on a coroded chunk of clockwork that may or may not have done anything in the first place)

The Antikythera Mechanism, an ancient, highly advanced computer from 100 BC "shouldn't exist".

Where is the evidence that this old corroded box of gears ever did anything at all... let alone that it's a computer.... let alone that it's "highly advanced"?

... but ok lets say, just for argument's sake, that it's not a paperweight, or piece of jewelery, or a torture device, or a failed experiment that never worked, or a sex toy, or who-on-earth-knows-what, and lets assume that it is a "computer".

How "highly advanced" is it compared to the computer you are using to post on this forum? Why would anyone call something that is just a few gears in a box "highly advanced" when it is clearly very simple??... the answer is in the context: because it was (supposedly) highly advanced for something that was made way back when technology was so primative.

So your example has actually just disproved your own premise.

                                    :critter:


                 .... please, mercy! No more. You win: GOD put dinosaur fossils in the ground to trick us! It's all true. I concede. Science is a lie. My computer actually works on holy spirit flowing out of the wall socket ;) .... with much love.

15) General Discussion / Re: My Bitcoin Friends
« on: January 10, 2018, 11:06:22 AM »

Bitcoin became popular due to its anonymity. At one point you could buy bitcoin and it was basically untraceable. Unless someone came under heavy scrutiny it wasn't possible for bitcoin transactions to me monitored.
Many marketplaces on the darknet don't even allow bitcoin anymore because it isn't secure. If there very people who made bitcoin popular stop using it I don't see how anyone can expect it to continue to thrive.

There are lots of other crypto currencies much more secure than bitcoin but in the end none of them are investable. Buying any cryto currency for the purposes of investment is akin to gambling. Could you make money doing it? Sure. Is it a smart thing to do with hard earned money? All successful investors agree unison thats its not a smart thing to do.

Exactly. It was a useful way to buy drugs and hire hitmen on the darkweb. That's why people started using it. But really CC's have no reason to increase in value at a greater rate than any other form of money... and what currancy increases in value? None of them. They all lose value all the time. It's called inflation. Duh.


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