One of the falsehoods that has been stuffed into your brain and pounded into place is that moral knowledge progresses inevitably, such that later generations are morally and intellectually superior to earlier generations, and that the older the source the more morally suspect that source is. There is a term for that. It is called chronological snobbery. Or, to use a term that you might understand more easily, “ageism.”
Calling him "small minded and uninformed" is an example of what he's talking about.
You are unable to address his actual points and truths, so you resort to insults that offer nothing to anyone.
You are not successfully presenting an alternate point of view, which is exactly what he is saying is going on with this generation that struggles to engage in a reasonable way.
It's a real pity he's teaching in a law school - what a waste.
It's a real pity he's teaching in a law school - what a waste.
@Lambchops Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
Can you explain what you mean by the above statement?
who else is disturbed at the education level in america where professors write like prepubescent fans of sam harris? of course, it's not just america, canada has that raging cultist lunatic jordan peterson.
>I don't think this speach is trying to talk anyone out of supporting the validity of any particular "ism"
that's literally what it's doing.
In my experience most lawyers are amoral creatures that are concerned with making money and little else. I'm sure there are exceptions, but that would seem to be the norm I have encountered.
I just think it's a pity to have someone so devoted to teaching critical thinking just to have the recipiants of this education end up as lawyers anyway.
.... what a waste
this author is also rapidly homophobic and thinks gay marriage with be the doom of society or some stupid ****.
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>I don't think this speach is trying to talk anyone out of supporting the validity of any particular "ism"
that's literally what it's doing.
this author is also rapidly homophobic and thinks gay marriage with be the doom of society or some stupid ****.
this author is also rapidly homophobic and thinks gay marriage with be the doom of society or some stupid ****.
So, what are his points that you disagree with, and what are your counterarguments?
You got a 1 week ban from Moderated Section of W2 Forum for breaking the rules of the Moderated Section forbidding obscene language, but you are most welcome to continue the topic in General Discussion.
we should be teaching young people to differentiate between information, advertising, campaigning and straight-out bull****. I worry that the next generation may lose the ability to tell these apart. :(
who else is disturbed at the education level in america where professors write like prepubescent fans of sam harris? of course, it's not just america, canada has that raging cultist lunatic jordan peterson.
who else is disturbed at the education level in america where professors write like prepubescent fans of sam harris? of course, it's not just america, canada has that raging cultist lunatic jordan peterson.
Sam Harris is even worse than Peterson imo
I'm going to comment on the rules for the Moderated Section.
First of all, I will readily admit that I have myself had explosions of profanities during moments of emotional upheaval. Absolutely.
I had one a few weeks ago that was witnessed by quite a number of people. I was in an emotional state, not a thinking state. And all kinds of things were coming out in typing. I wasn't under self-control at that time. I was reacting emotionally, without thinking it through.
That's the goal of this section, to have a place where useful discussion can take place, where views can be presented in a place where "wow you're a retard" or "that's so *****phobic!" isn't all that's required from an opposing viewholder.
The purpose isn't to nitpick, but to prevent abuse, and in the interest of fairness, intentions, thoughts, and motives can't be a factor in upholding the rules, nor can my liking or nonliking of the person in question. I've already seen at least 4 people I like undergo a ban, including myself.
I support the concept of having a place where we need to exercise self-control before expressing ourselves.
The entire rest of the forum is still open and free to all users, so you still have a place to express yourself unfettered by any boundaries other than blid's generally laid-back and chill emotions. ;)
You are right, Lamby! I looked and looked and looked after you mentioned it, but it took me awhile til I finally found it.There's no such rule stipulating one week bans.
You also get the 1 week ban as per Moderated Section Rules.
And before you get all wound up, keep in mind I myself was banned from the section for making a joke about people singing like frogs. ;)
It was very noble of you to confess and I apologize for my oversight.
Your worldview in a nutshell:
I'm an atheist and I believe in evolution (which teaches that white people are more evolved than other races and which Hitler used to promote his desire to create a superior Arian race by killing races he considered inferior). Death speeds up evolution, so death is a good thing, so killing genetically inferior, less evolved people is a good thing and will help get the human race to progress to superiority faster.
But I support Islam which teaches in a god (a god who doesn't exist, since I'm an atheist, so I support people lying to promote an imaginary god) who hates Christians and Jews and other non-muslims and instructs Muslims to murder them (so I again support and endorse murder, even of myself, since I'm a non-Muslim and I'm on the Quran's kill list), but people who question Islam (even though since I'm an atheist, I acknowledge that the religion is hokey nonsense worshipping and obeying an imaginary being) are racist bigots who like Hitler, but i think Hitler is evil, even though he follows my belief system of evolution and is helping evolution along by creating a master white race. But anyone who disagrees with me is a white supremacist bigot islamophobe, which are really, really bad, evil traits of people that should be silenced, imprisoned, or killed.
I also support homosexuality, even though it would slow down evolution because only male/female can reproduce. The world is overpopulated and we need to kill or block population growth, and even though the growth is slow and steady and living things have had millions of years to practice evolving to save themselves from various emergencies (like growing gills when you're drowning for example), I dont think humans will be able to evolve out of this problem because...well...no one has actually witnessed anything evolve new information into the gene pool when faced with a struggle to survive. I think acceptance of homosexuality should be forced on all people, but acceptance of heterosexuality should not. That one is optional.
I also approve of religions like Islam that call for the killing of homosexuals. Because it's still reducing the population.
I hate Christians because they're all bigots and irrational. We should kill them too. Or at least they shouldn't be allowed to talk. Their worldview is just too upsetting for mine and I can't handle it when I have no reasonable response to give or when they shred my worldview and make me feel not too smart. Like they are so racist because they don't approve of female genital mutilation or stoning and beating women. What disgusting racists. We need to approve of people who beat and stone and mutilate women and girls so people know we are not racist!
I don't understand why these terrible people are allowed to talk. Only I deserve to have an opinion because...because I'm not a racist Islamophobic homophobic narrow-minded bigot!
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@CumSavorer4385
You seem to have difficulty articulating your beliefs, so I decided to help you out.
@CumSavorer4385
You seem to have difficulty articulating your beliefs, so I decided to help you out. You claim I've misrepresented your worldview, so I thought it would be a positive thing to give you a chance to specify your actual worldview if it differs from the one presented. Here is a questionnaire to help you share your actual worldview.
If you want to show where I'm mistaken, please use the "Quote" feature, and within the quote, add a mark beside your chosen answers in this questionnaire, such as * or X or #, as you prefer, to indicate your responses.
I'll fill it out for myself, so you can just easily change the answers according to your views. To clarify, these are my answers representing my views. I invite you to change the answers to represent your own views.
I'm an atheist
True
False*
I don't know
2. I believe in evolution from single-celled bacteria to human beings
True
False*
I don't know
3. I believe Darwin's writings are scientifically accurate and true
True
False*
I don't know
4. Darwin taught that white people are more evolved than other races
True*
False
I don't know
5. Death (of all inferior genes) is essential to evolutionary progress, according to the evolutionary worldview
True*
False
I don't know
6. I'm a Muslim
True
False*
I don't know
7. Islam is a theistic religion
True*
False
I don't know
8. I believe Muhammad's version of god, Allah, is the real god who made the universe, and Muhammad is his prophet and accurately relays Allah's message to people.
True
False*
I don't know
9. Islam is a good religion, and I think the beliefs of the Quran should be protected and promoted.
True
False*
I don't know
10. Hitler believed in evolution and wanted to help evolution out by creating a more advanced race of human beings by killing the genes he considered inferior.
True*
False
I don't know
11. Evolution is helping people to become better.
True
False*
I don't know
12. I support and approve of homosexual behavior
True
False*
I don't know
13. I am a homosexual
True
False*
I don't know
14. A male and a male OR a female and a female can produce offspring in the absence of the opposite gender.
True
False*
I don't know
15. The world is overpopulated
True
False*
I don't know
16. We need to slow population growth
True
False*
I don't know
17. It is good to reduce the world population
True
False*
I don't know
18. It is good to reduce the world population by aborting unborn babies
True
False*
I don't know
19. It is good to reduce the world population by any means, including promoting war, homosexuality, abortion, promiscuous sex, breaking down natural family structure, promoting birth control, and promoting the undesirability of parenthood.
True
False*
I don't know
20. When faced with a struggle to survive, living things evolve new features, like gills or wings or lungs or legs.
True
False*
I don't know
21. Wings evolved because a wingless creature wanted to fly.
True
False*
I don't know
22. Wings evolved accidentally and randomly on an individual animal
True
False*
I don't know
23. Wings evolved accidentally and randomly suddenly into a whole population of animals all at once
True
False*
I don't know
24. Wings evolved into multiple individuals in population of animals and the wings were immediately fully functional
True
False*
I don't know
25. Wings evolved onto one individual only, but the wings were not fully functional
True
False*
I don't know
26. I think acceptance of homosexuality should be taught to all people
True
False*
I don't know
27. I think acceptance of heterosexuality should be taught to all people
True
False* (because it doesn't need to be taught, it's natural)
I don't know
28. Islamic writings call for the killing of homosexuals
True*
False
I don't know
29. I approve of Islamic writings and beliefs and values
True
False*
I don't know
30. I hate Christians
True
False*
I don't know
31. Christians are all stupid
True
False*
I don't know
32. Christians should be killed if they cannot be forced to stop being Christians
True
False*
I don't know
33. Christians should not be allowed to share their beliefs publicly
True
False*
I don't know
34. I find the Christian worldview upsetting and disturbing
True
False*
I don't know
35. All Christians that believe the Bible is the Word of God are racists
True
False*
I don't know
36. I approve of female genital mutilation forced on young girls
True
False*
I don't know
37. I approve of women and girls being beaten by their husband
True
False*
I don't know
38. I approve of women who are raped or falsely accused of adultery being stoned for adultery
True
False*
I don't know
39. Many women and girls in Islamic countries are abused and oppressed
True*
False
I don't know
40. The Quran and other Islamic texts prescribe female genital mutilation, calling it "circumcision"
True*
False
I don't know
41. Muhammad, in the Quran and other Islamic texts, prescribed wife-beating
True*
False
I don't know
42. Muhammad married a 6 year old girl named Aisha and consummated the marriage when she was 9 years old
True*
False
I don't know
43. Muhammad was a good role model and we should believe and follow what he wrote and taught
True
False*
I don't know
44. People who have wrong opinions or beliefs should be
ignored
silenced
taught*
imprisoned
killed
insulted and ridiculed* (occasionally, in a most friendly manner to help them overcome their illogical beliefs and be converted to the truth and find peace and joy and love ;))
I don't know
43. Muhammad was a good role model and we should believe and follow what he wrote and taught
True
False*
I don't know
Can you or can you not articulate what you actually believe? Do you not know? Are you scared to tell people?
Can you or can you not articulate what you actually believe? Do you not know? Are you scared to tell people?
No, I already said why I won't complete your questionnaire, because you are deceitful and argue in bad faith. You have not actually engaged with any of my expressed opinions, instead you lie about what I believe and argue with that, and refuse to apologize for lying. You are a bad faith actor in this discussion and until you acknowledge and apologize for your lies I will not engage you except to point out your falsehoods. Cheers.
43. Muhammad was a good role model and we should believe and follow what he wrote and taught
True
False*
I don't know
You haven't expressed any opinions other than you hate me and want me dead.
Instead of going by what some uninformed people have to say
@FlyDude
This video proves just how uninformed/misinformed people like yourself can so easily be swayed by someone spouting baseless accusations against Islam. But I'm inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are posting this video out of your ignorance about Islam and would invite you to read the Qur'an and reach your own conclusions rather than listen to a 10-minute summation by someone with no credentials.
is FlyDude a real person or is babyshark just using another name now?
Your reply proves what a bunch of whiny crybabies there are in the muslim world. Every time there is anything that even remotely transgresses (or in this case, merely disagrees with) Islam or its adherents there's a jihad or intifada, or at least a very weak and lame attack (such as calling me out as "ignorant/uninformed/misinformed" blah blah blah.
Let me know if there is anything in the video you disagree with, and why, if you wish to open discourse with me.
I find it hilarious that the guy talking about "credentials" just finished posting a picture of a brain-damaged boxer (R.I.P.) as evidence for why Islam should be held with any esteem at all. Lol...
Watch @ggreenwald demolish Bill Maher's hateful rhetoric against Arabs & Muslims. pic.twitter.com/Lbi1tbE4ot
— saeen (@SaeenDiddyCombs) January 8, 2018
that blatant projection from Bill Maher at the end, lmao! no self-awareness.Watch @ggreenwald demolish Bill Maher's hateful rhetoric against Arabs & Muslims. pic.twitter.com/Lbi1tbE4ot
— saeen (@SaeenDiddyCombs) January 8, 2018
that blatant projection from Bill Maher at the end, lmao! no self-awareness.Watch @ggreenwald demolish Bill Maher's hateful rhetoric against Arabs & Muslims. pic.twitter.com/Lbi1tbE4ot
— saeen (@SaeenDiddyCombs) January 8, 2018