However if you want to learn garden of war, you should play garden of war classic.
Neither. Practice on nwtr, foc, hsc, 3v3, funfor3, pos, xmarks, friends, basically anything that is built in, thats what you should use for learning. Learning 1 map will not help at all no matter how much it is played over others.
lance sucks. It doesn't matter what maps you practice on, as long as you're not playing custom maps. However if you want to learn garden of war, you should play garden of war classic. Watching games and live streams will give you a good foundation. There are key ways to improve on war2. Playing better players consistently, remedying why you lost, and finding a mentor are all essential to learning. Keep in mind that this game is 20 years old, and if you want to compete against 20 year old veterans, you're going to need a mentor if you want to take it seriously. War2 is simply too complex to just pick up and run with at a competitive level.
The fact of the matter is that non-customs players end up playing Garden of War.pud (the original) about 95% of the time. We can talk about other classic maps all we want, but that's the truth, and if this guy wants to learn GOW, he should play and watch GOW.
Yamon recommended "Garden of war classic" and he was correct.
lance sucks. It doesn't matter what maps you practice on, as long as you're not playing custom maps. However if you want to learn garden of war, you should play garden of war classic. Watching games and live streams will give you a good foundation. There are key ways to improve on war2. Playing better players consistently, remedying why you lost, and finding a mentor are all essential to learning. Keep in mind that this game is 20 years old, and if you want to compete against 20 year old veterans, you're going to need a mentor if you want to take it seriously. War2 is simply too complex to just pick up and run with at a competitive level.
I was lucky someone helped me out a few days ago and he let me observe his build by demonstrating and tutoring me on the build order, and buidling placement. Also how to wall, how to expand, and how to defend the expansion. And also, how to attack with death knights using DnD and Whirlwind. I really appreciate what he did and I guess I would like to seek more mentors like him.
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You'd better have time to play 24/7, well at least if u wanna play in the tournaments. There are players that have played this game for over 20 years or so. I've stopped trying to be the best because I don`t have the time and now I just play for fun when I can.
You can ask around on war2, and everyone well tell you i am the most experienced mentor with unmatched results. My former students are:
Medivh: [url]http://ladder.war2.ru/index.php[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/index.php[/url])
Lone: [url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=lone[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=lone[/url])
and this was my mentor for half a decade, swift:
[url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=swift[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=swift[/url])
lone and medivh were both really new when i found them, but i could see very large potential in them. I will able to tell you if you have what it takes or not as well.
You can ask around on war2, and everyone well tell you i am the most experienced mentor with unmatched results. My former students are:
Medivh: [url]http://ladder.war2.ru/index.php[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/index.php[/url])
Lone: [url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=lone[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=lone[/url])
and this was my mentor for half a decade, swift:
[url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=swift[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=swift[/url])
lone and medivh were both really new when i found them, but i could see very large potential in them. I will able to tell you if you have what it takes or not as well.
I would love to be mentored by you however that might be asking too much as I am just an enthusiast and not having any pro gaming ambitions.
I just need a tutor to get my skill level up to speed somewhat for serious play but not necessarily for tournament level success.
That said I very much open to learn from you and the rest of the community. I really appreciate the help and inputs. Thank you. :)
The fact is that learning rushing, walling, and res management on one map will allow you to apply them to any other map. So learning new maps, once you know the game, doesn't really involve anything more than getting a concept of what the map looks like and maybe a few minor tricks, nothing more than that. The key is to just get that foundational knowledge of the game that you can only get from experience and watching others.You'd better have time to play 24/7, well at least if u wanna play in the tournaments. There are players that have played this game for over 20 years or so. I've stopped trying to be the best because I don`t have the time and now I just play for fun when I can.
I don't plan to join the tourneys, but I plan to be a spectator and want to learn how to play in those maps. :) Or just in-house tourneys with my brother and his friends :)
I like 1v1 and was late in getting "serious" in RTS genre. I started taking it seriously when sc2 came out. I played war 2 back in the late 90's but was ignorant of any competitive scene and strategies. When SC 1 came out my friends and i shifted to it and forgot about war 2.
Glad to be back and my brother and I were having a blast doing 1v1 on GOW BNE. He recruiting his friends to get back playing as well :)
More importantly, why do you have two losses to Medivh? And, why is Medivh losing to you?
Seems pretty embarrassing for both sides. :-[
Didn't you say Medivh is your student? How come you haven't taught him to beat you yet?i have. he's beaten me countless times, but the student never surpasses the master.
Didn't you say Medivh is your student? How come you haven't taught him to beat you yet?
Didn't you say Medivh is your student? How come you haven't taught him to beat you yet?
^-- Ya what he said.
And table the ego Yamon, it's disgusting, always has been, always will be. Why dont you post the warvid of the 12/2 beatdown that I handed you while you cried that your partners didnt help? I didnt receive help, so the crying was unwarranted. Then you proceeded to stomp off in a hissy fit leaving the game 20 minutes early instead of stick around to play again once the game finished.
For learning purposes just play classic GOW, EF and nothing else. If you want to have fun play other built-in maps, but they won't really give you any insight into essential mechanics that can't already be found on classic GOW. You will still find yourself on occasion playing maps that have a certain uniqueness to them like water maps, nwtr, and ones that have more gold scarcity than you will be used to on GOW, but once you understand GOW for the most part, you will be able to pick up those maps with just a few easy adjustments.
GOW BNE is a relatively similar map to classic GOW, and the way it is played has a lot of similarities as well as long as you don't change the game speed. Hardly anyone plays it though, so you might as well be practicing on the map that people do play so you can concentrate completely on learning the tactics and maneuvers that are exclusive to classic GOW.
Yamon also gave you a great piece of advice - focus on playing people who are better than you. If you don't make this a conscious effort, you will probably find yourself unknowningly resorting to almost only playing people you can contend with and it will slow your learning process.
Sure will do. Will practice on classic GOW and will be actively seeking out better players (in this case anyone in War2 server haha). Yup losing doesn't bother me, i see it as learning opportunities. It's very similar to Fighting games, Dont be afraid of losing to better players. In the process I get better. I got my ass handed to me constantly the other day, took a beating, but in the process I experience for the first time someone building a Rax in front of my gold mine and me didnt know who to handle it. I guess the key is to not let that Peon inside the base. Looking forward to playing in the war2 server alot. Many thanks to you all for the advice! Cheers!:)
Sure will do. Will practice on classic GOW and will be actively seeking out better players (in this case anyone in War2 server haha). Yup losing doesn't bother me, i see it as learning opportunities. It's very similar to Fighting games, Dont be afraid of losing to better players. In the process I get better. I got my ass handed to me constantly the other day, took a beating, but in the process I experience for the first time someone building a Rax in front of my gold mine and me didnt know who to handle it. I guess the key is to not let that Peon inside the base. Looking forward to playing in the war2 server alot. Many thanks to you all for the advice! Cheers!:)
I'm garbage at gow so probably at or close to your level (if you aren't already better than me :D), let's 1v1 sometime
Yamon, I've forgotten 99% of our gow lessons, can I get a refresher? c: