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Thought experiment:
What if heaven is real and we had it and it was the USSR, and the devil (America) destroyed it?


Well, that's completely separate from trying to make logical arguments against the likelihood of any religion (always a futile waste of time).

Of course I don't very much buy this argument either; that's not quite what Marx said (he framed religion as a reaction from oppression, not a contribution toward oppression).  Lenin too: "It would be bourgeois narrow-mindedness to forget that the yoke of religion that weighs upon mankind is merely a product and reflection of the economic yoke within society."

People don't generally write off the only existence they've ever known in service of religion, and there are plenty of ways to incorporate religion into radical philosophy.  There are issues with the Church and various denominations basically being instruments of the ruling classes, of course, as is the case with most existing structures and organizations that must be destroyed in this world to build the next.

your rotting corpse helps a tree grow.

and what the hell is paradise? that's the most Utopian garbage idea of all time.
Paradise can be anything.  If you can imagine a god, surely you can imagine a paradise.  It's funny that you're so profoundly atheist that you can't even say it would be cool if there was a heaven, and a god, and the god has a big white beard and he's chilling up in the clouds flanked by angels playing harps, but the harps are metal as fuck, and everyone is overcome with love and joy or whatever.

of course the idea of living in a paradise is good. you can invent all sorts of ideas in your head that would be cool. but that's all it is , ideas. and the idea of paradise is so absurdly fantastical it borders on mental illness to believe in it. there's no universal idea of paradise, people would have their own ideas of what paradise is. women's ideas of paradise would differ from men's. an adult's would differ from a child's etc.. there are depictions of paradise where milk flows like waterfalls, but how the hell is that paradise to lactose intolerant people or someone who just hates milk? it's a vague fantasy. and why would a god responsible to letting capitalism run rampant on the garbage earth be the one to spawn it?
But Lambchops didn't even say he believed in it; he said he didn't really but that it'd be nice.

Anyway, it's simple to say that in a paradise, none of those contradictions would matter.  The souls who want a land of milk and honey would get it while the lactose intolerant person would be cured of that intolerance and the child's paradise would be full of puppies and toys or something even better than puppies and toys that we can't even imagine because it's not of the worldly realm and so on.  This is easy.

God can let capitalism run rampant because He chose to give humanity complete freedom, and if we suffer in this world, so much the greater will our joy be in the next; our suffering in the temporal sphere is minuscule compared to the eternal paradise of God's kingdom, our concerns are meaningless and all fades to nothing as our pain is completely washed over by God's love, as we transcend this world for the next.  Blah blah blah.  You don't need to believe any of this, but you do need to expand your mind if you don't even have the imagination to conceive of these things.

4) General Discussion / Re: Hurricane [s]Harvy[/s] IRMA
« on: Today at 12:47:30 PM »
How do you know who's been warned/hasn't been?  Alternatively I just blew past it without noticing it.

I mean, this probably isn't even what Lambchops was going for and it's likely he just likes the idea of there being a god, but it's such an easy answer.  Of course a literal paradise would be good my man, and, heck, while you're up there your corpse is still gonna be helping trees grow or feeding worms or whatever too, so it's win-win!

your rotting corpse helps a tree grow.

and what the hell is paradise? that's the most Utopian garbage idea of all time.
Paradise can be anything.  If you can imagine a god, surely you can imagine a paradise.  It's funny that you're so profoundly atheist that you can't even say it would be cool if there was a heaven, and a god, and the god has a big white beard and he's chilling up in the clouds flanked by angels playing harps, but the harps are metal as fuck, and everyone is overcome with love and joy or whatever.

Gee, why would it be nice for there to be an eternal paradise in the afterlife instead of just the rot and decay of your corpse?

8) Flame Wars & Offtopic / Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
« on: Today at 10:39:49 AM »
lol at claw crying about me posting about race and st louis in the race and st louis thread, because hes mad im anti-racist

9) Flame Wars & Offtopic / Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
« on: Today at 10:39:01 AM »
you fucktards really think every thread must be a commie thread? am i spamming your shitty ass "leftism thread of war2.ru" with capitalist propaganda? i made my own thread for muslim violence when i wanted to make a point and you faglers spammed that one also
i'm pretty sure race is the topic of this thread and my posts are all on topic?  many of them are specifically about st louis even

10) General Discussion / Re: Hurricane [s]Harvy[/s] IRMA
« on: Today at 10:37:27 AM »
so why exactly cant i start a thread "religion of peace" with videos in this section?

The Marxism/leftism thread is a free-wheeling forum for chat found in the General Discussion subforum.  Serious posting is not required. 

You can find most of the cool people in the leftism thread. You can just chill and do whatever and totally relax. "Take it easy" is the leftism thread motto, for example, that's how laid back it is there. Show up if you want to have a good time. Another good reason to show up is if you want to hang out with friends.

12) Flame Wars & Offtopic / Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
« on: Today at 08:30:22 AM »

13) General Discussion / Re: 'Murica thread
« on: Today at 08:09:20 AM »

14) Flame Wars & Offtopic / Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
« on: Today at 07:32:03 AM »
Do you mean Babyshark should put claw on her ignore list?

Discussion here is extremely serious. Proper capitalization is only fitting as a matter of decorum, even if not mandated by the rules themselves.

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