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Title: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 11:46:41 AM
Little gift for my 600th post.

Let's see who think Moustopher dint have what it take anymore to be forum admin.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 11:55:31 AM
Not saying she hasn't done anything and should be removed because she has done stuff. I just think she needs to learn to control her anger and not publically declare she is not going to do something because shes "busy".

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 11:57:21 AM
Nobody even know who she is/was and she never even really played the game.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 11:57:38 AM
bye mousey was nice knowing ya
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 11:59:48 AM
Should be a special election to determine fate of current admins.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 12:03:21 PM
In all fairness I would rather have blid gone instead of mouse since he does absolutely nothing and is opposed to changing anything and everything related to the game/forums/site etc. Mouse can be a
Spoiler
bitch
a lot of the time and stuff but at least she does actually does something from time to time and is not outright opposed to any change whatsoever like blid is.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 25, 2015, 12:05:42 PM
What exactly am I opposed to changing?
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 12:07:12 PM
What exactly am I opposed to changing?

Everything, and you never moderate a single post even when its required.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 25, 2015, 12:09:45 PM
Ah now we get to the heart of the matter.  You have no examples of me opposing change but you're mad I don't delete posts when they insult you.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 12:10:53 PM
Exactly why he should stay...knows the how to moderate properly. I think he sees that over moderation can be a bad thing.

Unlike that psycho rodent [emoji37]

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 12:14:04 PM
Ah now we get to the heart of the matter.  You have no examples of me opposing change but you're mad I don't delete posts when they insult you.

your ladder? you let it rot like garbage for years and didn't bother fixing it when it was broken and it took many complaints on the forums. Letting people keep rank 1 for 6 months without playing a game many times. This is all offtopic, this post is about mousetopher.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 12:16:19 PM
Ah now we get to the heart of the matter.  You have no examples of me opposing change but you're mad I don't delete posts when they insult you.

your ladder? you let it rot like garbage for years and didn't bother fixing it when it was broken and it took many complaints on the forums. Letting people keep rank 1 for 6 months without playing a game many times. This is all offtopic, this post is about mousetopher.
That seems more of a coding issue...code should have a decay expression.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 12:18:10 PM
Just by the fact your not neutral blid, just by the fact your like her, not giving what this server deserve because you got some hate on some specific peoples, you guys are total selfish.

If you like someone your more open, if you hate someone your both total garbage.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: I hate naggers on March 25, 2015, 12:20:21 PM
She perfect.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 12:20:44 PM
She perfect.

Like your hacking creation lol
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 12:25:11 PM
She perfect.
Lmfao the [emoji373] finally joins the conversation. Everyone becareful....the rodent will assign warnings accordingly.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 12:26:02 PM
She perfect.
Lmfao the [emoji373] finally joins the conversation. Everyone becareful....the rodent will assign warnings accordingly.

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Did you ever notice how his kirby avatar look like a chicken??

Coincidence??
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 12:29:21 PM
She perfect.
Lmfao the [emoji373] finally joins the conversation. Everyone becareful....the rodent will assign warnings accordingly.

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Did you ever notice how his kirby avatar look like a chicken??

Coincidence??
Does it matter really? Its already been established that he practices beastility.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 25, 2015, 12:31:50 PM
I demote people whenever inactivity is brought to my attention.  I honestly like the Case's format.  Some people agree with me on that.  Others want some sort of skill ranking (like built-in ladder, but built-in ladder rankings are terrible).  But that's a matter of debate.  If someone wants to find a way to include a skill rating, that's welcome to me, but I'm not convinced that's how people should be ranked.  Like I said, that's something people have argued about but there's no clear answer and there's no part of this is just me refusing change.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 12:32:46 PM
She perfect.
Lmfao the [emoji373] finally joins the conversation. Everyone becareful....the rodent will assign warnings accordingly.

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Did you ever notice how his kirby avatar look like a chicken??

Coincidence??
Does it matter really? Its already been established that he practices beastility.

Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC 8000X

Not possible i still dont believe that...
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: I hate naggers on March 25, 2015, 12:35:00 PM
I demote people whenever inactivity is brought to my attention.  I honestly like the Case's format.  Some people agree with me on that.  Others want some sort of skill ranking (like built-in ladder, but built-in ladder rankings are terrible).  If someone wants to find a way to include a skill rating, that's welcome to me, but I'm not convinced that's how people should be ranked. 
that's a separate matter. I really think the best idea is to have two parralel ratings (cases for main rank and points for test purposes), we may switch to the other eventually if people like it. That's literally the best compromise idea there's ever been. Yep, mine. lolol.
How is it on topic, though. Go create a "is blid worthless" thread and post there, lil blid. This thread is about mousetopher worship
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 25, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
How is it your idea when that's what i just said in the post you quoted.  "If someone wants to find a way to include a skill rating, that's welcome to me, but I'm not convinced that's how people should be ranked."

The way i see it people would be ranked in the case's way though, but skill rating would be there and you could like click skill rating to sort by skill rating.

edit: but this is dependant on someone being able to come up with a good skill formula and being able to add it into the code.  i recall sending you or mouse the ladder code some time in the past.  now mouse probably has easy access to it.  If anyone wants to help with this, they're welcome.  Or if they want to code in some automated activity formula. that's cool with me.

o create a "is blid worthless" thread and post there, lil blid. This thread is about mousetopher worship
this is the only possible worthwhile discussion that's going to happen in this thread.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 12:39:28 PM
your formula is perfect, touch nothing, since i play 1 game per month im still the #2 of your server untill i play fifa2015.

Add my last game to the calendar, gonne play next one in 30 days.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 12:40:55 PM
I demote people whenever inactivity is brought to my attention.  I honestly like the Case's format.  Some people agree with me on that.  Others want some sort of skill ranking (like built-in ladder, but built-in ladder rankings are terrible).  If someone wants to find a way to include a skill rating, that's welcome to me, but I'm not convinced that's how people should be ranked. 
that's a separate matter. I really think the best idea is to have two parralel ratings (cases for main rank and points for test purposes), we may switch to the other eventually if people like it. That's literally the best compromise idea there's ever been. Yep, mine. lolol.
How is it on topic, though. Go create a "is blid worthless" thread and post there, lil blid. This thread is about mousetopher worship
More like to highlight her Whoreship between you and her. In addition, address her faults that need to be dealt with.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Winchester on March 25, 2015, 01:16:34 PM
She perfect.

Like your hacking creation lol

Which you'd use
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: mousEtopher on March 25, 2015, 01:17:23 PM
Not saying she hasn't done anything and should be removed because she has done stuff. I just think she needs to learn to control her anger and not publically declare she is not going to do something because shes "busy".

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The entire server project, to include the pvpgn, forum and website, is managed by volunteers. We all make contributions in our free time as our schedules permit. It's not our responsibility to instantly enact every single suggestion someone makes the moment they make it. The fact that I'm too busy to install yet another underutilized feature also doesn't mean I'm vetoing it for the entire project, I just figured I'd acknowledge the suggestion and share my thoughts. If blid, iL or Burnt want to install a calendar, they can go right ahead.

Better yet, those of you who have these ideas can take some initiative and implement them yourselves. EQ could, for example, create a Google calendar or similar and take responsibility for keeping it updated with relevant info, then it would simply be a matter of embedding (https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/41207?hl=en) it into the site or forum, which I or another admin can do quickly and easily. There's no reason contributions to the site or server have to be limited to being made by admins, but what generally sets us apart is that we're the ones who actually end up DOING stuff. Most people like to talk far more than they like taking action; approximately 99% of the simple suggestions I've made to the general populace to help improve the project and lighten our workload have been totally ignored.

Fortunately, I'm not going to keep wasting my time responding to all of these pointless gripes about every single thing I say or do, and will instead focus my energy on making actual, tangible improvements to the website. You're welcome.

She perfect.

Thank you my pet.

How is it your idea when that's what i just said in the post you quoted.  "If someone wants to find a way to include a skill rating, that's welcome to me, but I'm not convinced that's how people should be ranked."

The way i see it people would be ranked in the case's way though, but skill rating would be there and you could like click skill rating to sort by skill rating.

edit: but this is dependant on someone being able to come up with a good skill formula and being able to add it into the code.  i recall sending you or mouse the ladder code some time in the past.  now mouse probably has easy access to it.  If anyone wants to help with this, they're welcome.  Or if they want to code in some automated activity formula. that's cool with me.

Yes, still have, so if you would like to get to work on a new version, Claw, it's all yours.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
We never ask you nothing, you take time to be sure to get more hate from us.

If you too lazy to do your job so just shut up, your opinion dont matter nobody here since your not even a player and just here to fucked around with everybody except your chicken rapist.

We take you as an obligation, not like a pleasure.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 25, 2015, 01:28:58 PM
Mousetopher made the website and I think set up the forum too.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Mousetopher made the website and I think set up the forum too.

She absolutly do nothing, she just register to a domain and use the most pathetic template ever, i can do this shit in ten minutes, please dude.

I can do 5 different template for this forum in 3 days with all my own creations.

This is exactly what i mean by not givin what this server deserve for your own opinion about me.

I can made this server ten time better in 1 week, but it's better to keep your hate on me and dint give what this server deserve for your own satisfaction, right!

Satisfaction of peoples who dint even play this game, make me laugh!
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 01:46:43 PM
Mousetopher made the website and I think set up the forum too.

she made the website thats it,  setting up a forum takes 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 01:48:05 PM
Mousetopher made the website and I think set up the forum too.

she made the website thats it,  setting up a forum takes 5 minutes.

If she made the website so i give her a props, because website is nice.

But this forum is total garbage, we just gonna get blind with this bright forum, let's be honnest lol.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: SmurfKinG on March 25, 2015, 02:22:08 PM
think im gonna cast a poll about who thinks equinox' ability to cast polls should be revoked until further notice.

Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 02:45:04 PM
Mousetopher made the website and I think set up the forum too.

she made the website thats it,  setting up a forum takes 5 minutes.

If she made the website so i give her a props, because website is nice.

But this forum is total garbage, we just gonna get blind with this bright forum, let's be honnest lol.

she made the design on the website, ldir I think made the website. But yea this forum is pretty plain. The site design is really good and she should make a similar one for the forums.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Mousetopher made the website and I think set up the forum too.

she made the website thats it,  setting up a forum takes 5 minutes.

If she made the website so i give her a props, because website is nice.

But this forum is total garbage, we just gonna get blind with this bright forum, let's be honnest lol.

she made the design on the website, ldir I think made the website. But yea this forum is pretty plain. The site design is really good and she should make a similar one for the forums.
Should make forum war2 themed!

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 04:39:05 PM
yea why didn't she do that already instead of writing 1,000 word essays on why shes too busy lol
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 04:48:29 PM
yea why didn't she do that already instead of writing 1,000 word essays on why shes too busy lol
Lmfao

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 04:56:50 PM
Mousetopher made the website and I think set up the forum too.


she made the website thats it,  setting up a forum takes 5 minutes.


If she made the website so i give her a props, because website is nice.

But this forum is total garbage, we just gonna get blind with this bright forum, let's be honnest lol.


she made the design on the website, ldir I think made the website. But yea this forum is pretty plain. The site design is really good and she should make a similar one for the forums.


Il already told her to use the website desing for this forum, but everything i said is a bad idea, she prefer let communauty in crap for his personal satisfaction.

The truth is she just want me, but i see her, she the real toxic one!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU#ws)

There no escape, she cant wait, she need a hit! Lol
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 25, 2015, 06:30:14 PM
Reform is all we ask for.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 07:10:45 PM
if she makes a warcraft 2 theme forum, I will change my vote.
Mousetopher made the website and I think set up the forum too.


she made the website thats it,  setting up a forum takes 5 minutes.


If she made the website so i give her a props, because website is nice.

But this forum is total garbage, we just gonna get blind with this bright forum, let's be honnest lol.


she made the design on the website, ldir I think made the website. But yea this forum is pretty plain. The site design is really good and she should make a similar one for the forums.


Il already told her to use the website desing for this forum, but everything i said is a bad idea, she prefer let communauty in crap for his personal satisfaction.

The truth is she just want me, but i see her, she the real toxic one!!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU#ws[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU#ws[/url])

There no escape, she cant wait, she need a hit! Lol


How could making the forum like the site be a bad idea? lol
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: O4L on March 25, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
Moustopher does an amazing job and if anything I think she will probably be a on game admin as well in the near future.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: I hate naggers on March 25, 2015, 08:03:43 PM
Moustopher does an amazing job and if anything I think she will probably be a on game admin as well in the near future.
Yeaaaah! Words of wisdom!
Gogo mousetopher for admin

please discard votes of newbies (ryu & his IDLE bot friends), illiterate madmen (eq) and inactive players/delusional wannabes (ganz). Suddendly, we all side with mouse!
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 25, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
Moustopher does an amazing job and if anything I think she will probably be a on game admin as well in the near future.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g)
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 25, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
An amazing job like a 64 years old peon...

(http://www.memegenerator.es/imagenes/memes/0/2612844.jpg)
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Player on March 26, 2015, 12:09:19 AM
Wtf I can't change my vote.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 26, 2015, 12:22:45 AM
Moustopher does an amazing job and if anything I think she will probably be a on game admin as well in the near future.
Yeaaaah! Words of wisdom!
Gogo mousetopher for admin

please discard votes of newbies (ryu & his IDLE bot friends), illiterate madmen (eq) and inactive players/delusional wannabes (ganz). Suddendly, we all side with mouse!
Even idle bots would refuse to be friends with a chicken fucker as yourself you [emoji373] .

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 26, 2015, 12:23:38 AM
An amazing job like a 64 years old peon...

([url]http://www.memegenerator.es/imagenes/memes/0/2612844.jpg[/url])

Have to do something in the first place to do something again even if by accident [emoji54]

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 26, 2015, 02:26:09 AM
Moustopher does an amazing job and if anything I think she will probably be a on game admin as well in the near future.
God have mercy on us when that happens.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 26, 2015, 12:00:40 PM
Mousetopher did so much. EQ just thinks nobody does anything. She at least had some successful projects (her server, old website, new website, forums, custom icons etc) instead of you who talk much and only have failed or half baked failed projects to show for.

Thank you for dedicating your free time to create so much for us all Mousetopher.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 26, 2015, 12:06:54 PM
Mousetopher did so much. EQ just thinks nobody does anything. She at least had some successful projects (her server, old website, new website, forums, custom icons etc) instead of you who talk much and only have failed or half baked failed projects to show for.

Thank you for dedicating your free time to create so much for us all Mousetopher.

-Her server was a success? 0 players always on. Anyone can download pvpgn and install it and have 0 players.

-Custom icons, uhh what custom icons?

-Old website was made by ldir.

The things she did that were successful was the website re-design, these forums can be debated as to whether it was a success or a failure and it only takes 10 minutes to install anyways so the only real accomplishment was re-designing the website.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 26, 2015, 12:21:52 PM
- Server was always up for when RU was getting ddsoed by lance or something. Players could log there to play.

- Custom icons there was awesome. You would definetely not know since you have not played there.

- Old website which she made prior to server.war2.ru facelift. Here again it shows you are not connected to war2. You might as well not post here as far as I am concerned. Totally war2 ignorant.

- Forums work. players can register, mods are active. If you think that is a failure, you are free to stop losing your time here.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 26, 2015, 12:59:31 PM
- Server was always up for when RU was getting ddsoed by lance or something. Players could log there to play.

- Custom icons there was awesome. You would definetely not know since you have not played there.

- Old website which she made prior to server.war2.ru facelift. Here again it shows you are not connected to war2. You might as well not post here as far as I am concerned. Totally war2 ignorant.

- Forums work. players can register, mods are active. If you think that is a failure, you are free to stop losing your time here.

God dam another tool for the toolbox.
Lmfao lance DDoSing?? Haha now thats a good one. Someone still believes in fairy tales. Anyone could of made this forum a "success" as long as they made a big sign in occult pointing people to its doors. iL endorsed this new forum on occult and i am pretty sure most people came here because of iL's direction not because of the rodent's presence. Without him this whole forum would be nothing.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 26, 2015, 01:11:56 PM
Lmfao lance DDoSing?? Haha now thats a good one. Someone still believes in fairy tales.
Hmmmm.  ???
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 26, 2015, 01:21:35 PM
One can only imagine how big this game would be if war2cusom had stayed...
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 26, 2015, 08:09:41 PM
Im borred to talk about what she do.

Give me admin for ONLY one week and let's see what I CAN finnaly do!
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: iL on March 27, 2015, 11:48:51 AM
Did Moustopher need to be downrate to admin of back up server only.

Another point of view:
should we enforce the Rules? Who will care of it? Blid, Burnt? Do you think they will do it better?

Nobody enforced the rules before, Mousey was the first who began, and is she bad now? It's very difficult to start the Rules enforcing for the 1-st time.
Check our Rules poll: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,163.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,163.0.html) people voted for that.
You feel free to agitate people to change their votes for Rules poll, then she will never warn people.

Yes she abuse of power and ban everyone, she also lazy and only do what she want.

Where did she abuse of power? She always follows the Rules as i see, never warns people with no reason. Let me know if i miss something.
As for me, she is much more fair than other admins. Note that it was not she who permbanned you when people voted for that.
So why do you vote against her?

The only one who dislike her is Evil~Ryu, but i have to say i agree with her warnings in general.

No she perfect nothing had to be change.

I'd say yes, she is one of the best and the most fair admins i know.

I'd wish her to be patient and consecutive in her hard mod job. Unfortunately she is too busy sometimes...
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 27, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
Did Moustopher need to be downrate to admin of back up server only.

Another point of view:
should we enforce the Rules? Who will care of it? Blid, Burnt? Do you think they will do it better?

Nobody enforced the rules before, Mousey was the first who began, and is she bad now? It's very difficult to start the Rules enforcing for the 1-st time.
Check our Rules poll: [url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,163.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,163.0.html[/url]) people voted for that.
You feel free to agitate people to change their votes for Rules poll, then she will never warn people.

Yes she abuse of power and ban everyone, she also lazy and only do what she want.

Where did she abuse of power? She always follows the Rules as i see, never warns people with no reason. Let me know if i miss something.
As for me, she is much more fair than other admins. Note that it was not she who permbanned you when people voted for that.
So why do you vote against her?

The only one who dislike her is Evil~Ryu, but i have to say i agree with her warnings in general.

No she perfect nothing had to be change.

I'd say yes, she is one of the best and the most fair admins i know.

I'd wish her to be patient and consecutive in her hard mod job. Unfortunately she is too busy sometimes...


First of all i want to said thank you for the effort you give, i see it with the pool and this post, you finally cares about my opinions.

Now im gonna talk true, no hate, just my free talk and my real thing.

I have nothing against moustopher, she do what she can, it's ok.

The probleme i got with her is about she is nobody, a little bit like you, i appreciate the fact your guys are there to take cares of us as the best you can. Even if i think it can be 20 times better and dont get insulted by this... But you guys want to do everything by yourself and closed door from others especialy me, The fact is i dont see how she can have the ability to ban peoples as she want, when she not a part of community, a little bit like you.. I know you guys are part of this community by taking cares of forum and game programming and it's ok... But on game you guys are not there, you know almost nobody and probably nobody know you except peoples who came to forum. I think she dont have the ability to ban peoples or take important decision because she dont know peoples first and she dont know the game second. Tell me how your able to take the best decision for this game if you dont know it or dont know peoples? You already told by yourself you was suprise by the pool because it was so tight, when the truth is more peoples want to close these clients but they are too lazy too register on forum. The community is more then you, moustopher, blid, claw, winchester and terror gorefiend. I mean com to see us on game and your gonna see thats alot different of the forum.
I think moustopher do what she can, but she do way too much useless things compare important thing to do... Like doing new desings for the forum, doing a calendar because is a perfect idea, she need to work on his own role, same as for you and same as for burnt.

The only one who we really can included to community is burnt because at least he take time with us and people know him, so i think it's way much easier to take someone as burnt to ban peoples, getting ban from someone who dint even play this game is a nightmare.

Now you said she dont abuse of their power, but i already told you ten times when you was not reading me, she permanant ban me for spamming when she tell me spamming was about deleting account, if she tell me i will get ban for spamming never of this will happen... But i was asking for deleting my account and that what she said, ** we only delete account on spamming ** finally i get permanant ban and i cant even defend myself.

She talk about rules but she cant even follow his own rules and ban me from lie, me a ten years players on your server.

I dont think all these rules are useless, but some are totally garbage, people dont deserve to get ban so easily, there a way this communuty always use and it was free speech... Peoples are free to said what they want if even you think it's not appropriated, there way much solution to use instead to ban the last players we got on this server.

Talking first, ignore second, and community choice after..

The only thing we suppose to protect his, nationality, personal informations and racist.

But if someone want to show a pussy or tell her shes a whore, she can use ignore like any normal players as this server or cry like any other players of this server, banning peoples is something we cant do, so it need more precision about it.

You can't ban peoples when you want for your own personal satisfaction.

For my parts you guys are good admins as second role, but you need more admins as first role, more admins like burnt.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 28, 2015, 10:32:08 AM
Did Moustopher need to be downrate to admin of back up server only.

Another point of view:
should we enforce the Rules? Who will care of it? Blid, Burnt? Do you think they will do it better?

Nobody enforced the rules before, Mousey was the first who began, and is she bad now? It's very difficult to start the Rules enforcing for the 1-st time.
Check our Rules poll: [url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,163.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,163.0.html[/url]) people voted for that.
You feel free to agitate people to change their votes for Rules poll, then she will never warn people.

Yes she abuse of power and ban everyone, she also lazy and only do what she want.

Where did she abuse of power? She always follows the Rules as i see, never warns people with no reason. Let me know if i miss something.
As for me, she is much more fair than other admins. Note that it was not she who permbanned you when people voted for that.
So why do you vote against her?

The only one who dislike her is Evil~Ryu, but i have to say i agree with her warnings in general.

No she perfect nothing had to be change.

I'd say yes, she is one of the best and the most fair admins i know.

I'd wish her to be patient and consecutive in her hard mod job. Unfortunately she is too busy sometimes...

I don't "dislike" her because i don't like anyone on here, frankly your're all dicks.....some just more than others .

I only disagree with some of her policies.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: iL on March 29, 2015, 12:33:35 PM
First of all i want to said thank you for the effort you give, i see it with the pool and this post, you finally cares about my opinions.
Thank you too, i try to care about anyone's opinion, at least to understand them and let them understand me.
The probleme i got with her is about she is nobody
Agree with your side: admin should know the community and understand their wishes. That is an important thing.

But here's another side: admin should be unbiassed against people in the community.
If admin takes active part in the community relations and have many friends and many enemies before to become an admin, it will be almost impossible for him to keep unbiassed.
Even if he will be 100% fair:
- he will alienate his friends when punishing them.
- and his enemies will cry about his power abuse when he ban them.
That's why i'd consider non-participation in the community relations should be more an advantage than a disadvantage.

About mousey - i hope she will learn the community and it's wishes better during her mod activity. Just give her time for that.

she permanant ban me for spamming when she tell me spamming was about deleting account
As i rememeber admins permbanned you about 4 or 5 times in that period, but mousey didn't.
Not sure who did, Blid or Burnt, mousey just repeated bans for your new accounts, that is mostly a technical moment. It was not her decision to ban you, she just maintained your ban state.
She just do what other admins decide.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 29, 2015, 12:46:11 PM
It was actually tk I think.  He was trying to delete you as per your request.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 29, 2015, 01:08:18 PM
Tk ban me the first time because lightbringer- ask him 5 month ago, because i tell to lightbringer to go fuck himself in french after he told me what to do with my life and tell me to go see a therapist, what is not the exemple an admin have to show.

Moustopher is the second one who ban me because i ask here to delete my account and she told me ** deleting is only for spammer ** what i do, spam the forum, but she lie to me and just ban me..

There a difference between deleting and banning... When i want you to delete my account it's because i dont want to contribuated to your forum anymore, even worst i dont want war2ru use my name anymore to entertaint peoples and make this community grow.. it was a lesson to show you how my name can attract peoples for your forums.

But she ban me from lies, and banning mean, my name is still used and i cant even read the forum anymore while shes bullshiting on me with his hypocrit arrogant attitude, there a huge difference.

The third one who ban me was burnt, because he dint appreciated the fact i made a thread and ask lance to contact me.

He ban me for an hour and delete my thread and unbann me after, he dint even move it to flames thread he just delete it.

The fourth times it was burnt again because i told the truth on forum about why he ban me and about how he delete my lance thread before lance see it, he use the fact he already ban me before ( because i made a lance thread and he was able to ban me again because i was already ban for the lance thread, LOL? )

All these ban are biase from admins who dint respect my free speech and my request, there no real ban in this, even better, then no real community ban in this.

This is all abuse of power against a guy who help this server days after days without asking anything to you and never made probleme on this server for ten years.

If you think im mad for no reason, so please watch the story again.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 29, 2015, 01:11:01 PM
First of all i want to said thank you for the effort you give, i see it with the pool and this post, you finally cares about my opinions.
Thank you too, i try to care about anyone's opinion, at least to understand them and let them understand me.
The probleme i got with her is about she is nobody
Agree with your side: admin should know the community and understand their wishes. That is an important thing.

But here's another side: admin should be unbiassed against people in the community.
If admin takes active part in the community relations and have many friends and many enemies before to become an admin, it will be almost impossible for him to keep unbiassed.
Even if he will be 100% fair:
- he will alienate his friends when punishing them.
- and his enemies will cry about his power abuse when he ban them.
That's why i'd consider non-participation in the community relations should be more an advantage than a disadvantage.

About mousey - i hope she will learn the community and it's wishes better during her mod activity. Just give her time for that.

she permanant ban me for spamming when she tell me spamming was about deleting account
As i rememeber admins permbanned you about 4 or 5 times in that period, but mousey didn't.
Not sure who did, Blid or Burnt, mousey just repeated bans for your new accounts, that is mostly a technical moment. It was not her decision to ban you, she just maintained your ban state.
She just do what other admins decide.
Pfft that rodent isn't capable of learning anything, she needs real life anger management classes. Probably had abusive parents why she e-rages alot.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: I hate naggers on March 29, 2015, 01:14:57 PM
just get the fuck out, dude xD
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 29, 2015, 01:21:46 PM
just get the fuck out, dude xD
I'll make you a deal....if you can post a pic of yourself fucking a real human with a sticky labeled "claw" on your forehead, i'll leave. Deal?

Remember chickens or other small animals don't count.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 29, 2015, 01:25:22 PM
First of all i want to said thank you for the effort you give, i see it with the pool and this post, you finally cares about my opinions.
Thank you too, i try to care about anyone's opinion, at least to understand them and let them understand me.
The probleme i got with her is about she is nobody
Agree with your side: admin should know the community and understand their wishes. That is an important thing.

But here's another side: admin should be unbiassed against people in the community.
If admin takes active part in the community relations and have many friends and many enemies before to become an admin, it will be almost impossible for him to keep unbiassed.
Even if he will be 100% fair:
- he will alienate his friends when punishing them.
- and his enemies will cry about his power abuse when he ban them.
That's why i'd consider non-participation in the community relations should be more an advantage than a disadvantage.

About mousey - i hope she will learn the community and it's wishes better during her mod activity. Just give her time for that.

she permanant ban me for spamming when she tell me spamming was about deleting account
As i rememeber admins permbanned you about 4 or 5 times in that period, but mousey didn't.
Not sure who did, Blid or Burnt, mousey just repeated bans for your new accounts, that is mostly a technical moment. It was not her decision to ban you, she just maintained your ban state.
She just do what other admins decide.
Pfft that rodent isn't capable of learning anything, she needs real life anger management classes. Probably had abusive parents why she e-rages alot.

Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC 8000X

I have no probleme about the fact she is admin, i have probleme with the fact she can take important decision over people who really play this game.

Decision she take are not the best decision because she dint even know peoples or she dint even play.

But i see no probleme with the fact she do design or making programmation or some thing like that.

To make this game better, we have to use people who know this game, not people who just want to show their autority and their ego.

Take by exemple any new games, they always make a beta and give it to the future player to take comments about the game and build the game about it.. Because player or the ones who gonna waste their time to play and make this game live.

So the opinion of whos play is more important of the person who know how to build game due the programmation but dint necessairly how to play it like a pro and what is best for it.

And what i really dont like, it's she take decision to ban peoples when she dint even take time with us, yes maybe she will take more times with us on the client now, but its already do ten years, why she dint do it before, and why she do it now? Because she do it by obligation not because she want it!
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 29, 2015, 01:28:58 PM
First of all i want to said thank you for the effort you give, i see it with the pool and this post, you finally cares about my opinions.
Thank you too, i try to care about anyone's opinion, at least to understand them and let them understand me.
The probleme i got with her is about she is nobody
Agree with your side: admin should know the community and understand their wishes. That is an important thing.

But here's another side: admin should be unbiassed against people in the community.
If admin takes active part in the community relations and have many friends and many enemies before to become an admin, it will be almost impossible for him to keep unbiassed.
Even if he will be 100% fair:
- he will alienate his friends when punishing them.
- and his enemies will cry about his power abuse when he ban them.
That's why i'd consider non-participation in the community relations should be more an advantage than a disadvantage.

About mousey - i hope she will learn the community and it's wishes better during her mod activity. Just give her time for that.

she permanant ban me for spamming when she tell me spamming was about deleting account
As i rememeber admins permbanned you about 4 or 5 times in that period, but mousey didn't.
Not sure who did, Blid or Burnt, mousey just repeated bans for your new accounts, that is mostly a technical moment. It was not her decision to ban you, she just maintained your ban state.
She just do what other admins decide.
Pfft that rodent isn't capable of learning anything, she needs real life anger management classes. Probably had abusive parents why she e-rages alot.

Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC 8000X

I have no probleme about the fact she is admin, i have probleme with the fact she can take important decision over people who really play this game.

Decision she take are not the best decision because she dint even know peoples or she dint even play.

But i see no probleme with the fact she do design or making programmation or some thing like that.

To make this game better, we have to use people who know this game, not people who just want to show their autority and their ego.

Take by exemple any new games, they always make a beta and give it to the future player to take comments about the game and build the game about it.. Because player or the ones who gonna waste their time to play and make this game live.

So the opinion of whos play is more important of the person who know how to build game due the programmation but dint necessairly how to play it like a pro and what is best for it.

I what i really dont like, if she take decision to ban someone when she dint even take time with us, yes maybe she will take more times with us on the client, but its already do ten years, why she dint do it before, and why she do it now? Because she do it by obligation not because she want it!
We'll ya thats what i been saying, i don't think anyone wants her gone. I just want her to be less biased and be more fair in who she punishes. Drop the favoritism for the chicken fucker. In addition, controlling her anger.

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Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: iL on March 30, 2015, 07:30:23 AM
Tk ban me the first time because lightbringer- ask him 5 month ago

As i remember, i did, not tk. (Maybe tk did it also, not sure).
Moustopher is the second

The third one who ban me was burnt

The fourth times it was burnt again

So, You have been banned by Burnt twice, also by me, by tk, by mousey, and your request is only against mousey, why?
That looks like she is not your main offender, all of us are.

According to your logic, she is biassed against you, but other admins are also biassed. And more than her.

Moustopher is the second one who ban me because i ask here to delete my account and she told me ** deleting is only for spammer ** what i do, spam the forum, but she lie to me and just ban me..

As i understand what she told about: deleting is closed for users because of some technical reason like spambots fighting in several specific cases, e.g.
That didn't mean something like "spamming is being punished by account deletion", there's also no such line in the Rules.
The rule is: "Spam, obnoxious pictures, offtopic garbage should cause muting".
She didn't break the rules when enforced ban for spamming. So that is not a reason to complain against mousey.
I'd say, that is misunderstanding.

We discussed that situation 2 days later between admins and agreed that we should afford an opportunity to delete an account by request. I added that permission to axe throwers group (for you) and posted that in one of your threads, not sure if you read that.

All these ban are biase from admins who dint respect my free speech and my request, there no real ban in this, even better, then no real community ban in this.

Let me try to explain my point of view:
I agree that bans have not been applied according to our Rules, that is not perfect.
Another thing is in that 5 months you became in war with our admins and the whole war2ru project.
That was bad for the total project and the community, admins have been tired of you (in spite of your actions according the Rules most of the time) so they've been happy to get clear of you.
I don't like that decision, but i understand it. 5 months of hatred from your side, nothing (almost) positive.
Also others (not admins only) have been agree with permbanning you (even if not according the Rules), that ganz poll: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,579.0/viewresults.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,579.0/viewresults.html)

I'm sure your intentions were good: to fight against hackers, to make the game and the community better. But your methods was a problem: threatening, blackmail, slander, entreats. These are all kinds of manipulation, that never works. At least, that never works for a long time.
I think reasonable methods are: argumentation and convincing.
If you can't convince "stupid admins", you feel free to make polls, convince and attract other people, i think that is a good way to know the majority wishes.

I said and i will say that all i do, i do for community, so i'd be interested to know their opinion and try to follow it, to find any compromise between different wishes when possible. So i think such polls are very useful for all of us.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 30, 2015, 08:07:19 AM
Tk ban me the first time because lightbringer- ask him 5 month ago

As i remember, i did, not tk. (Maybe tk did it also, not sure).
Moustopher is the second

The third one who ban me was burnt

The fourth times it was burnt again

So, You have been banned by Burnt twice, also by me, by tk, by mousey, and your request is only against mousey, why?
That looks like she is not your main offender, all of us are.

According to your logic, she is biassed against you, but other admins are also biassed. And more than her.

Moustopher is the second one who ban me because i ask here to delete my account and she told me ** deleting is only for spammer ** what i do, spam the forum, but she lie to me and just ban me..

As i understand what she told about: deleting is closed for users because of some technical reason like spambots fighting in several specific cases, e.g.
That didn't mean something like "spamming is being punished by account deletion", there's also no such line in the Rules.
The rule is: "Spam, obnoxious pictures, offtopic garbage should cause muting".
She didn't break the rules when enforced ban for spamming. So that is not a reason to complain against mousey.
I'd say, that is misunderstanding.

We discussed that situation 2 days later between admins and agreed that we should afford an opportunity to delete an account by request. I added that permission to axe throwers group (for you) and posted that in one of your threads, not sure if you read that.

All these ban are biase from admins who dint respect my free speech and my request, there no real ban in this, even better, then no real community ban in this.

Let me try to explain my point of view:
I agree that bans have not been applied according to our Rules, that is not perfect.
Another thing is in that 5 months you became in war with our admins and the whole war2ru project.
That was bad for the total project and the community, admins have been tired of you (in spite of your actions according the Rules most of the time) so they've been happy to get clear of you.
I don't like that decision, but i understand it. 5 months of hatred from your side, nothing (almost) positive.
Also others (not admins only) have been agree with permbanning you (even if not according the Rules), that ganz poll: [url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,579.0/viewresults.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,579.0/viewresults.html[/url])

I'm sure your intentions were good: to fight against hackers, to make the game and the community better. But your methods was a problem: threatening, blackmail, slander, entreats. These are all kinds of manipulation, that never works. At least, that never works for a long time.
I think reasonable methods are: argumentation and convincing.
If you can't convince "stupid admins", you feel free to make polls, convince and attract other people, i think that is a good way to know the majority wishes.

I said and i will say that all i do, i do for community, so i'd be interested to know their opinion and try to follow it, to find any compromise between different wishes when possible. So i think such polls are very useful for all of us.


The difference between burnt tk and you is easy to understand, burnt and tk are players with who i have played for years, i know them and they also know community, but it dont mean they ban me from reasonable motif.

The difference between you and moustopher is only by the fact you are the BIG BOSS in here and you look way more much resonable compare to her.

But her, i have never seen her on client since ten years already, she have never take time with us... Also you talk about that 5 month, but i have never said nothing wrong to her before she create this forum and i told her she can do a little bit much more effort for this forum because this is retard to do the exactly same forum as we have use for ten years.

By making this forum it was meaning a new era, something new, a new start..

But this is have nothing new.

Then she start to do some hate and telling i have never do nothing with war2city and that game when she absolutly do nothing more with moustopher server, the reality is maybe i dint have do nothing with war2city like her, but i still do war2city from my heart like her i believe, and i have never get the help of the server to help me on promotion or anything, and i also have take 12 hours per day on clients to play with peoples and help peoples and also help your server.

When i get ban from tk or burnt it way more legit since they played this game with me since 10 years even if the ban is totally not resonable anyway, but when i get ban by someone who have never play this game and cant even know who the fuck i am because she dint even know how to rush.

Its make me prettyt fucking mad, yeah.

Then you said i have threatening, blackmail, slander, entreats.

But the truth is, ive beeen pretty decent for almost a month and bring you proofs and everything you need for these hacking issue on occult forum while your admins like lightbringer was doing everything to act like if i was crazy.

Telling at everyone he made the patchs and he know the whole thing of this game and i am retards while i just said bullshit.

He also start to make account on the client to personalize me and start to made me boot from everygames he join.

How im suppose to take all of this when i just find 2 of the most biggest issue on your server since the 10 last years.

How im suppose to take this when lightbringer cry at everyone for latency fix and telling this is hacking since the 10 last years??

He suppose to made this game, he suppose to know warlatency is way far to be an hacks, it's just improve the quality of the game for every players.

So yes maybe after someone act so supcious and you guys do nothing about these clients i will be a little bit more mad!

This not the way admins have to act in this serious kind of problemes, support will be appreciated, but i dint see any support from no one except maybe you who take alot of time to check if everything was true.

You took almost 2 weeks to bring a solid case on it and show at everyone it was true, it took me 4 hours, the longest part was to download the client on torrent.

I mean your staff show absolutly NO SUPPORT on that case, lightbringer only try to made me look like a retards because he dint want peoples to realise why he was crying for ten years about latency, because he already know using other clients make latency corrupt.

Burnt, blid and tk for their parts have juste act like if he dint ever seen any threads of this probleme for almost 2 month!

Im sorry dude, but everything of what happen today is by your staff fault too, they had 2 choices since start, since i was pretty decent with everyone and doing big thing to save your server man, but they prefere to goes in war with me because i tell what they dint for ten years.

If in that first month you guys give me support in that case, today never of this will happen, yes its a kind of my fault if today the forum is full of problemes.

But today i got a pool, i got the right to said what i think without getting banned on falsed accusation, wich people dint even know anyway, because your staff doing the ban without tell it at everyone... If it was not about ganz people dint will know i am even ban.. Ganz save me many time by creating threads and make realise at peoples i get ba and what was that official reason.

Im sorry again iL, but you staff and even yourself have your parts on everything on what happen today, i think in a certain way we are all guilty..

The difference is some peoples have no decent reason to be guilty, when everything i do is for the best of this games and you totally know it.

Lightbringer, praise vivec and ryu try to destroy me fron months, by posting my personal informations.

Alot from winchester, this dude is a pure evil men, saying i beat my old parents and i have poker addiction and alot of debts and posting my picture and do shit on it spamming the forums for now 4 months with it, are you serious??

This dude never seen me of his entire life, he dint know nothing about me.

After i see your admins talk with him like if nothing happen.

You guys have never ban him or even show a move on that problems.

The way your staff is acting just show at everyone there no neutrality, when your saying moustopher will be great because she can be neutral.

No she cant!

And almost no one in your staff cant anyway!

Moustopher abuse of his power, burnt is a liar, blid dont play anymore and prefer to play arcade and talk about NBA.

Your staff need real admins, it dont mean you have to scratch them, but you have to add mores.

Just Be realist.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Winchester on March 30, 2015, 10:57:57 AM
Alot from winchester, this dude is a pure evil men, saying i beat my old parents and i have poker addiction and alot of debts and posting my picture and do shit on it spamming the forums for now 4 months with it, are you serious??

1. You beating your parents makes you the pure evil one, not me. You're also the same person who finds it absolutely hilarious to joke about your own grandmother passing away. Pretty sure that makes you the fucked up pure evil one here dude.

2. When did I ever say you beat your parents? I'm not suprised if you would though lol. You definitely have a gambling problem and steal from your parents though. That's a given.

3. You're the one who says your fathers basically a cripple and you live at home to look after him, but yet all you do is spend 12+ hours a day on warcraft 2 as you say complaining and crying all day long while you spend the half of your time gambling it all away.

 
This dude never seen me of his entire life, he dint know nothing about me.

Using your same logic, you've never seen me in your entire life either, so  you are a hypocrite  to call me evil. The only person who gets attacked by me is scumbags like you who decided it was a good idea to attack me for trying to talk civil with you at first, this isn't your ghetto neighborhood we're living in. After realizing you are a pointless person with no intelligence to try reason with, I just begin attacking you back. You've attacked more people on these forums and the occult in the past 6 months then I have, it's simple really, you're a bully, as seen with how you act towards EVERYBODY on here. you're a scumbag. You tried against me, and quite simply you fucked up by doing that because im not taking your shit.

If i'm the "Pure evil" one, why did I offer you 2 peace offerings on here only for you to be the one to attack me in response?
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 30, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Alot from winchester, this dude is a pure evil men, saying i beat my old parents and i have poker addiction and alot of debts and posting my picture and do shit on it spamming the forums for now 4 months with it, are you serious??

1. You beating your parents makes you the pure evil one, not me. You're also the same person who finds it absolutely hilarious to joke about your own grandmother passing away. Pretty sure that makes you the fucked up pure evil one here dude.

2. When did I ever say you beat your parents? I'm not suprised if you would though lol. You definitely have a gambling problem and steal from your parents though. That's a given.

3. You're the one who says your fathers basically a cripple and you live at home to look after him, but yet all you do is spend 12+ hours a day on warcraft 2 as you say complaining and crying all day long while you spend the half of your time gambling it all away.

 
This dude never seen me of his entire life, he dint know nothing about me.

Using your same logic, you've never seen me in your entire life either, so  you are a hypocrite  to call me evil. The only person who gets attacked by me is scumbags like you who decided it was a good idea to attack me for trying to talk civil with you at first, this isn't your ghetto neighborhood we're living in. After realizing you are a pointless person with no intelligence to try reason with, I just begin attacking you back. You've attacked more people on these forums and the occult in the past 6 months then I have, it's simple really, you're a bully, as seen with how you act towards EVERYBODY on here. you're a scumbag. You tried against me, and quite simply you fucked up by doing that because im not taking your shit.

If i'm the "Pure evil" one, why did I offer you 2 peace offerings on here only for you to be the one to attack me in response?
Pure EviL [emoji57] good one.

Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC 8000X

Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Winchester on March 30, 2015, 09:12:20 PM
Pure EviL  good one.

Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC 8000X

Lol, how come that didn't come to my mind! Should've wrote Pure~EviL
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: O4L on March 30, 2015, 09:28:54 PM
If you want me to help you equinox I will help you. I've told you this. Just take me up on it and we will make your league start off. You act like I'm not going to help it take off when you have brought up numerous screen shots of me helping you the first time you started uwc. I would be doing the exact same thing for it if you would let me. I promote both my tournaments to qualify for Tournament Of Champions, and help your league at the same time making same announcements, replays etc. It's just more things for the community to get involved in. These days its a lot of different players who rotate online during the months and different people are always online different days trying to get into something fun. I don't see the problem with having both.

Think of it as a WWE Wrestlemania

We have two big leagues going on and we build them up to the Supershow.

The UWC could be the GOW HIGH RES, CHOP player league

The W2FL as the map variety league.

Warcraft 2 Festival VII

UWC LEAGUE WINNER VS. W2FL LEAGUE WINNER - $$ donation pot

OR Even a 3 way

UWC GOW Leader vs. Chop Leader vs. W2FL leader in 3 player FFA's on each kind of map in a Best of 11

ROUND 1: GOW EF
ROUND 2: CHOP
ROUND 3: BRIDGE TO BRIDGE COMBAT
ROUND 4: GOW EF
ROUND 5: CHOP
ROUND 6: FIGHT FOR NOX MIDDLE
ROUND 7: GOW EF
ROUND 8: CHOP
ROUND 9: PLAINS OF SNOW
ROUND 10: FIERCE OCEAN COMBAT
ROUND 11: GOW EF


GOW EF
CHOP
MAP VARIETYS


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And like I've mentioned before. Why not just have UWC League sub-sections on the forum now that we have the new one. Nobody here actually controlled the old forums, and that was when you first started to get mad at the staff. If we keep the league here they have a bigger chance of getting involved in other warcraft 2 discussion so we have more people voting on the polls, and more community representation. That's the reason I think its best to keep Tournament stuff here on the forums. I want players to get exposed and be able to sign up.

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And dude when I started my league it was a month after I last saw yours running. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE MAN! Once I announce something I try my best to stick to it. Dude I promoted a $2000 winner tournament. Trust me I wanted to split the prizes out to more of a variety of players to the tournament but I already announced it so I felt it was my duty to stick to it. Especially since Yamon told me he would be practicing hard for it. I didn't want to go back on something I already announced. It's why I don't want to just end the W2FL tournaments leading to the Tournament Of Champions.

Viruz did earn the money though. Look at the competition he faced! This truely was probably the most epic GOW EF Tournament line up.

15/16 players in Round 3 were former Tournament Champions. Only Jynx without a win.

Round 3:

1. swift vs.
2. Rat

3. ~LuX vs.
4. SirJynxIt

5. Wargasm vs.
6. 00Joe

7. BHC-Jesk vs.
8. ^Adam^
----------------------

9. StarTale vs.
10. Knitterhemd

11. Szwagier vs.
12. Shotgun

13. Braviet vs.
14. Medivh

15. Joker vs.
16. Viruz

Viruz beat UNF0RG1VEN, Joker, Braviet, Shotgun, and Swift all in one tournament.

That right there is a legend.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 30, 2015, 09:59:42 PM
Im not here to do a competition burnt.

I want to do something big, something creative, someting fair for everyone and something new.

Something where everyones gonna have fun and everyone gonna feel important.

I dont want to split peoples and to be in competitive mode for absolutly no reason.

I want to do something to merge peoples, something where custom players and pros players have reasons to be togheter.

UWC is allbout that.

Like i said, your league is good by passion and time, but it can be way much better and you dont want realise.

My offer to you is this one, put your league on stand by, and work as the same rank to me in my mine, we gonna be 50/50 on it both owner.

Let's try my way for once and your gonna help me for once.

Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: O4L on March 30, 2015, 10:07:31 PM
Alright man. I will do it. The W2FL will be on stand by. All tournament winners still are qualified to come to the Tournament Of Champions in July for  $20 per series. Any future winners of the UWC Tournaments will also qualify.

Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 31, 2015, 12:41:24 AM
Burnt...It cannot be all those random BNE maps vs only one fucking chop map...Get real dude.
Either  gow, chop, gow chop etc same sets...

or random bne map and random newb made map alternating....
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: I hate naggers on March 31, 2015, 04:30:10 AM
Situaltional awareness, hello? I believe old ef is the most hosted map, chop is 2nd, gow BNE is 3rd... other newb maps don't get hosted nearly as often
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: iL on March 31, 2015, 06:48:16 AM
The difference between burnt tk and you is easy to understand, burnt and tk are players with who i have played for years, i know them and they also know community, but it dont mean they ban me from reasonable motif.
I agree, and so, your request is not about to downrate Moustopher, it's about your disagreement with other admins who you played with.
Also, she is not one who is bad and banned you, she began after others (tk and burnt, and me) already began to ban you.
So, no reason to fight against her except she is new and don't know the community well.
Just give her time to know the community please.

I also don't think admin should know people for years to punish them for spamming or for porno or racism.
He/she just see a violation, realise the reasons and enforce something according to the Rules.

But the truth is, ive beeen pretty decent for almost a month and bring you proofs and everything you need for these hacking issue on occult forum while your admins like lightbringer was doing everything to act like if i was crazy.
Yes, i remember that, i read that talks between you, Lightbringer- and others, i didn't take part because i was generally agree with them for the reasons i explained you before.
I absolutely understand you and that you want to make things better.
I've just been disagree with your methods...
I also absolutely understand our admins and that they don't want to break things we have.
I agree that their methods could be not perfect also.

Im sorry dude, but everything of what happen today is by your staff fault too, they had 2 choices since start, since i was pretty decent with everyone and doing big thing to save your server man, but they prefere to goes in war with me because i tell what they dint for ten years.
Maybe they are, maybe they act something wrong with you, we are all humans and we can make mistakes.
They do some good things and have good wishes for community also, same as you.
Just let them make some small mistakes sometimes if they do.

The difference is some peoples have no decent reason to be guilty, when everything i do is for the best of this games and you totally know it.

Lightbringer, praise vivec and ryu try to destroy me fron months, by posting my personal informations.

Alot from winchester, this dude is a pure evil men, saying i beat my old parents and i have poker addiction and alot of debts and posting my picture and do shit on it spamming the forums for now 4 months with it, are you serious??

This dude never seen me of his entire life, he dint know nothing about me.

After i see your admins talk with him like if nothing happen.

You guys have never ban him or even show a move on that problems.
Yes, you want to do that for the best of this games, but you attacked war2ru.
They are also want to do that for the best, they assumed you like an evil and tried to fight against you.
I understand both of you, both tried to make good for community and both were harmful.
That's why admins didn't attack you, but they didn't attack ryu and win.
Let them say if i'm wrong.

My own opinion that they should stop you from agression to war2ru team and agression from evil~ryu and winchaster to you.

The way your staff is acting just show at everyone there no neutrality, when your saying moustopher will be great because she can be neutral.

No she cant!

And almost no one in your staff cant anyway!

Moustopher abuse of his power, burnt is a liar, blid dont play anymore and prefer to play arcade and talk about NBA.

Your staff need real admins, it dont mean you have to scratch them, but you have to add mores.

Just Be realist.
Moustopher banned you and also gave 56% warnings to Evil~ryu to let him banned for alomst a week, she also warned several more people, so she is not so biassed against you personally.

I think nobody can be absolutely neutral. We are all humans, each of us has his own view and ideas how to make our things perfect.
At least being outside the community, she has more opportunities to be unbiassed.
And on my personal point of view - she is.
At least not worse than other known admins.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 31, 2015, 07:10:57 AM
The only thing i know is this thing, ive never get ban in 10 years except in the six last month, even better, i have never BEEN warned for anything.

But there alot of peoples who have give everything for your server, without players, there no server.

When someone like me have been legit all is life and finally know peoples can hacks like that is a huge fucking scandal dude.

I dont even know if you realise, how much peoples play your server since 10 years and give you almost everything by their times.

That time people used to play on your server is the time they can do something in real life, but they give it to you men.

So yes i am what i am since i know you dont even want to close these clients.

Yes i am way much more when i abolutly know and 120% sure lightbringer was a hacker right in the war2ru staff and do everything to never get caught and even used legit players to make them look like the real hackers because they use war2 latency fix.

And yes i am more when i see some admins keeping to be ignorant when they know im totaly right since start and they just wanna proof they want to respect themelf.

It's ok, but their a times where you have to realise this game is the same for almost ten years, 30 players and nothing serious, everything i do was for the best, even if you think im a bad guy, i was still a motivation for you and all your staff, and we can said it work because you are all more active since this time and you guys have do 35% in 6 month of what you have ever do in 10 years.

Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: I hate naggers on March 31, 2015, 08:16:09 AM
that penis-uploading suicide-trolling retard blaming admins for everything, i can understand that, he's delusional. But iL saying that "he may be right" and that he "understands" is beyond my comprehension.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: iL on March 31, 2015, 09:01:51 AM
that penis-uploading suicide-trolling retard blaming admins for everything, i can understand that, he's delusional. But iL saying that "he may be right" and that he "understands" is beyond my comprehension.
I understand that Eq wants to make the community and our common things better.
He offers a decision i disagree with, but i agree that the described hacking problem is actual and we should do something with that.
I also understand that Eq is emotional, he thinks that everyone disagree with him because they eighter hate him or use that hack themselves or w/e.
What i disagree with, is his methods of antihack solution. And his methods to reach his purposes. But his purposes are good, he cares of our things and community a lot, he is an active player and an active member of community, i'd be happy to let all of us be on the same side. I think our main enemy is misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Winchester on March 31, 2015, 09:34:36 AM
When someone like me have been legit all is life

Lmfao
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 31, 2015, 12:13:54 PM
Keep the chop players in the chop tournaments and the GOW/BNE players in the GOW/BNE tournaments imo.  And if someone plays both sorts of map they can enter both sets of tournaments.
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 31, 2015, 12:19:15 PM
When someone like me have been legit all is life

Lmfao
Title: Re: Downrate Moustopher to back up server.
Post by: Nox on March 31, 2015, 12:36:45 PM
Keep the chop players in the chop tournaments and the GOW/BNE players in the GOW/BNE tournaments imo.  And if someone plays both sorts of map they can enter both sets of tournaments.

Chop players will play only in chop tournaments against chop players.

Old gow players will play only in old gow tournaments against old gow players.

Same as for bt net gow f.

If chop players want to try gow tournament they will be totally welcome, but they will get rank on the good class of gow.

Same for gow player who want to try chop.