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Moderated General Discussion / Re: Why Men Want Casual Sex
« on: October 30, 2017, 08:42:08 AM »
Your not right, most men don't care how many sexual partners a women has had. In truth it is women themselves that care how many sexual partners other women have had. It is a well known fact women are more critical of other women than men are.


Well, the guy who wrote this article http://marriedmansexlife.com/2010/03/10-critical-things-in-how-to-choose-a-wife/ and the men who commented on it show that men DO care how many women their wife has slept with.

I'll quote #6 on the list of desired traits:

6. Virgin. You heard me. The fewer sexual partners a woman has before marriage the higher her marital satisfaction and the sexual satisfaction she has within marriage. You very much want your wife to sexually imprint on sex with you and completely bond to you. The sex is just going to be that much better over the long term. Not to mention no other ex-lovers lurking on Facebook, sexual diseases, bad experiences and regrets to worry about. The harsh truth to the modern hook up girl is that yes indeed every time you sleep with another man, you damage your long term wife potential. Plus the best predicator of future behavior is past behavior and highly promiscuous women before marriage are probably far more likely to cheat on you during marriage.
For the record I also believe the man should ideally be a virgin too. I say this not from a current religious perspective – in my teens and early 20’s I was an evangelical Christian but am a quite firm atheist now – but simply from the perspective that while this was horribly hard in my time before Jennifer, the sexual payoff and trust between us is outstandingly good and on balance a significant part of our current happiness. I am laid like tile and have been for 15 years now.  However I will not lie and say it was anything other than torture at the time though.

A commenter:

Today's pretty, young, American women (7s and up, maybe even 6s) would have to be total prudes, or very religious, or extremely picky in some way, to make it into their 20s as virgins.

I would restate it as:
6. No history of casual sex.

Stated that way, I couldn't agree more.

Another commenter:

The basic princple though is be as first for each other as you can be. There is a commitment to the idea of marriage you hope to see before hand.

Another commenter:

 Broken home, promiscuity, aimless, etc.; these are all things that should give a guy pause.

Another commenter:


Let's not forget the author prefaced his list with the goal of finding a life partner and raising a passel of kids. While YOUNG. It's a great list, although not particularily well suited for the "modern woman" who is mostly interested in career and casual sex during her 20's and 30's.

THAT woman is largely unmarriable by 30 to any but the most desperate and beta man. It may not be fair, but it is a reality. Sorry ladies, but just sniffing "double standard, unfair" dosen't make it any less true.


Another commenter:



Yes, only marry a virgin, if you want a woman who will be able to bond with you.

And by virgin, I mean no sexual contact of any kind with anybody. (For you sluts out there, that means no blow jobs, or anal sex or sticking your tongue in some girls cunt.)

If you won't buy a used mattress, why would you accept a used woman?

And for all the women who whine that men are not being penalized for casual sex: 1)why that is so is explained on most blogs for men, and 2) why don't you raise your standards?

(And by raising your standards, I don't mean becoming the 50th ho of a bigger thug.)


End of quoted comments.

There are many more examples everywhere that can be found, an endless supply basically, but here is enough to show you that YES, absolutely a man cares about how many women his wife has been with before him.

Now those men who have been promiscuous feel they are being hypocritical if they expect a woman to be a virgin, but that wouldn't be an issue if he also were to keep himself pure for his future wife. Everybody wins.

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Moderated General Discussion / Re: Why Men Want Casual Sex
« on: October 30, 2017, 08:33:22 AM »
So your saying the only good men are religious men?


I will post some of the traits Christian men are expected to have, taken from http://sheismore.com/the-husband-list-12-non-negotiables/:

1. He is a practicing believer.

“Do not be yoked together with an unbeliever…For what agreement is there between the temple of God and idols?” 2 Corinthians 6:14-16. Issues and conflict are bound to rise in marriage, so it is crucial that there is a common foundation on which to hold the marriage accountable. The last thing you want to be fighting about is your faith, whether or not to pray and your viewpoints on religion. Believe me, I’ve been there before. It is exhausting.

2. God is the center of his life.

He seeks God’s wisdom in all the decisions he makes.
“With wisdom are riches and honor, enduring wealth and prosperity. My fruit is better than fine gold; what I yield surpasses choice silver.” Proverbs 8:18-19

3. He has integrity and does not put himself in tempting situations.

He guards you against harm and protects the relationship. “Keep to a path far from evil, do not go near the door of that house, lest you give your best strength to others.” Proverbs 5:8-9

4. Seeks mentorship and counsel.

It is important that your man is wise in realizing he can’t carry the weight of the world on his shoulders. When he is surrounded by men who are older than him who can offer advice, prayer and mentorship, he can be a better husband to you. “The way of fools seems right to them, but the wise listen to advice.” Proverbs 12:15

5. He is slow to anger.

There is peace in knowing your man holds an even temperament even when he is provoked. A man who allows his feelings, emotions and anger to determine his actions typically has tarnished relationships and is not a healthy place for you or a family. “A hot-tempered person stirs up conflict, but the one who is patient calms a quarrel.” Proverbs 15:18

6. He holds strong conviction on the sacredness of fidelity.

A man is wise when he understand that infidelity and looking for pleasure outside of the marriage only brings strife. God actually calls him to rejoice over you all of his days. “May your fountain be blessed and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth…May you be ever captivated by her love. Why be captivated, my son, by an adulteress?” Proverbs 5:18-20.

7. He is honorable of your heart and emotional well-being.

I hated when a guy I was dating exposed my embarrassing moments or the private matters of our relationship with his friends. Picking on you may seem cute and funny at first, but it will get old after a while. You should feel honored and safe knowing you can always trust your husband to cover and speak well of you. “Let them be yours alone, never to be shared with strangers,” Proverbs 5:17.
“Love each other deeply because love covers all wrongs.” 1 Peter 4:8.

8. He is disciplined in living a life of integrity.

Watch how he handles temptation or sticky situations that test his character. Does he choose to do what’s right even when no one is watching? It is imperative to observe these things because it will indicate if you can trust his decision making. When you’re married, almost all of his decisions impact you. “He will die for lack of discipline, led astray by his own great folly.” Proverbs 5:23

9. Has solid work ethic.

“A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest- and poverty will come upon you like a thief and scarcity like an armed man.” Proverbs 6:10-11.

10. He pursues and loves you passionately.

The man you marry should make you feel loved like you’ve never felt before. Safe, accepted, desired, nurtured, protected and comforted. Jesus loves us deeply, he loves us so fiercely, that he willingly gave up his life to save us.
Pursues: “So Jacob worked seven years to pay for Rachel. But his love for her was so strong that it seemed to him but a few days.” Genesis 29:20.
Loves: “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.” Ephesians 5:25.

11. Romances you.

I know women who feel guilty or wrong for desiring romance in their relationship, as if they don’t deserve it. But God desires for your heart to be romanced, just as He longs to romance us. “Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth— for your love is more delightful than wine.” Song of Solomon 1:2
“Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame.” Song of Solomon 8:6.

12. He is humble and can admit when he is wrong.

There is nothing worse than a petty conflict blowing out of proportion because your partner refuses to admit they were wrong. Taking responsibility for his actions and apologizing for his mistakes is the sign of a real man. “Pride comes before destruction, and an arrogant spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:18
No person will be perfect and grace is a beautiful thing that makes relationships flourish. That being said, this list for single ladies is to give a basic framework of character traits to look for or recognize whether or not there is desire for growth. Of course, use common sense when someone amazing walks in to your life but wasn’t exactly what you dreamed up. God surprises us, but always gives us what we need.
“For I feel a divine jealousy for you, since I betrothed you to one husband…” 2 Corinthians 11:2.
Ultimately, your divine Father wants you to be treated in a way that it is compared with how Christ cares for us. It is up to us though to believe we are worthy, set the standard, and have the faith that God works in perfect timing to introduce you to your husband.

End of quotes taken from http://sheismore.com/the-husband-list-12-non-negotiables/ on traits of a godly man for Christian women to look for in a potential husband.

I think the above are good traits. Which of them would you argue against?

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Moderated General Discussion / Re: Why Men Want Casual Sex
« on: October 30, 2017, 08:23:47 AM »
Excuse me, you posted a video which was over an hour in length and your complaining about my 20min vid?

My objection was not about the length of the video. It was your statement:

Can do me a favor.
Don't write such long posts. I don't rarely read posts that long.

You can't properly respond to a 20 minute video in one sentence. It was not a complaint about the length of the video. It was a complaint about the shortness of reply you could handle.

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The winner is SUPER-PBALL-KING with $35. (Didamosa your $36 is after the midnight deadline and is not counted.)

I'll PM you the PayPal info and then I'll just need a shipping address.

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Moderated General Discussion / Re: Why Men Want Casual Sex
« on: October 29, 2017, 10:40:50 PM »
You didn't rebutt any of the points I made about the negatives of casual sex.

You posted a video "Do Women Enjoy Casual Sex More Than Men?"

I'm not about to say that casual sex can't feel good at the time, or that the two people can't be enjoying a delicious romp like wild animals.

"But it felt good" isn't a particularly smart reason to do things, especially things of such importance as mating, sex, and relationships.

I gather that you plan for your future financially. You put aside money, spend responsibly, don't spend more than you have, don't rack up huge debts, because you are thinking about the future.

I imagine that you plan for your future physically. You eat don't binge on donuts, cookies, candy, soda, chips, and never move your bones because watching TV is more fun. You put effort and into your health, because you know it's the body you'll live with for the rest of your life, and you'd like that to be as long as possible.

Why should you, in the sexual realm, live for the passing moment?

That would be like buying everything you want on a credit card with money you don't have and binging on junk food and McDonald's every day "because it feels good."

Besides, in terms of "feeling good", according to scientific studies, those who love each other experience more pleasure in sex than those engaging in "casual" sex.

Sex is designed for reproduction. Barring this process through physical or chemical methods is anti-sex. Those who block out the creative process of full natural sex, as is typical of couples not in committed long-term relationships, are the ones who are afraid of nature.

Sex is designed to be intimate and pleasurable. Those who love each other experience more intimacy and pleasure in sex. (here are the findings of one study https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/08/140819125944.htm)
Those who want to separate sex from love experience less pleasure, thus if anyone is anti-sex, it's the anti-pleasure crowd.

Sex is designed to bond a husband and wife together and strengthen and build the relationship. The hormone oxytocin in women and men and vasopressin in men, serve to bond a couple together in such a way that they are physically and emotionally going to desire exclusively the romantic partner and be uninterested in other members of the opposite sex. We can't deny the scientific facts that are revealed by studying our biology and behaviour patterns. Thus if anyone is anti-sex, it's the anti-bonding crowd.

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Moderated General Discussion / Re: Why Men Want Casual Sex
« on: October 29, 2017, 10:30:21 PM »
All the single desirable men her own age (employed, intelligent, marriage-minded) are now able to get women much younger than herself

Men who fit this category are looking for women who are college educated with careers and ambition. Not women with nothing to offer but good looks and chastity.   


Not to shock you or anything, but...good-looking, chaste women do occasionally go to college and have ambition. Imagine that.

But let's say a man who wants to have a wife and children has to choose between an unattractive college-educated career-woman and a beautiful virgin who has only finished high school...I can tell you an overwhelming majority of men will choose the second.

Physical attractiveness in a female is very important to men. This is just common knowledge. Beauty is not necessarily empty beauty, but could be the result of healthy eating, exercise, good hygiene, and rejecting things like drugs/smoking that can wreak havoc on health, showing wisdom, self-control, hard work, determination, ability to stand up to peer pressure, etc. and chastity is not empty either, especially in a world where the cultural pressure is to mate thoughtlessly like animals and give no thought to the future. Chastity shows self-respect, self-control, wisdom, prudence, love and concern for future spouse and children, concern for society and people in general, and a high value on sexuality.

Add to that the sad fact that most universities are feminist-brainwashing centres that teach women that allowing men to be leaders is a horrid aberration, that children are a drag, that the domestic life of taking care of husband and children is some radical kind of abuse, and that a woman's worth comes from her ability to earn money.

Whether men know it or not, they want a woman who will surrender and submit to him, allow him to lead. A woman less brainwashed with anti-male and anti-family sentiment will have her feminine nature less dishevelled.

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Moderated General Discussion / Re: Why Men Want Casual Sex
« on: October 29, 2017, 10:17:03 PM »
It is particularly stupid for women to be sexually promiscuous because it lowers their market value

Wow...This statement is wrong on so many levels. Women aren't commodities with share prices.

Its 2017 men don't judge women based on how many sexual partners they have had.

You quoted a partial quote.

It is particularly stupid for women to be sexually promiscuous because it lowers their market value to quality men (faithful men, good providers, intelligent, not promiscuous).

That is the complete sentence, and it so happens to be a true sentence. A non-promiscuous man, and I know plenty of them, generally church-goers, want a non-promiscuous woman.

Men do judge women based on how many sexual partners they've had. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. If a man is looking for a fleeting experience, then he doesn't care so much what he dips into so long as it's reasonably tight and not overly odiferous or attached to an excessively corpulent broad.

If a man is looking for the woman who will mother his children, he is going to care how she treats and values her body. He wants her to be faithful to him, to know that the children growing in her belly are his. He wants her love and faithfulness to be for him, just as his will be for her.

These people do exist, and in far greater numbers than Hollywood wants you to believe.





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Moderated General Discussion / Re: Why Men Want Casual Sex
« on: October 29, 2017, 10:06:19 PM »
Can do me a favor.
Don't write such long posts. I don't rarely read posts that long.

You wanna set me up with an impossible quest, huh.

I'm supposed to watch a 20 minute video and respond with one sentence?

I'm supposed to watch a 20 minute video, and you don't want to read 2 minutes of text?

You don't want a level playing field.

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If I ever need one, I definitely want you to be my lawyer.

Failing to provide concrete examples, it can reasonably be concluded that the problem lies exclusively within your own mind.

If I see a person that I perceive as more beautiful, or smarter, or richer, or in some way more "superior" than myself, and just looking at the person, I say to myself, "Wow, they are a conceited, hateful snob, I hate them," am I not being the hater? Am I not acting out of jealousy, or fear of rejection, or feelings of inadequacy, rather than basing my dislike of the person on the person actually having unlikeable characteristics?

And, for fun, let's just pretend I'm extremely superior-minded about some trait that I may or may not possess. Then, in your mind, my superior-mindedness, or pride, or whatever you like to call it, is a bad way to be. Therefore, your attitude of being non-superior-minded or humble is a more superior attitude. Therefore, you actually are superior-minded or prideful about your supposedly better attitude or way of being.

 

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3.5 more hours left on the auction!

Current bid leader SUPER-PBALL-KING @ $27 USD

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I was W2SupportAdmin and made it to round 3 YEAH GO Sausage whoever you are! :)

Was fun!!

Don't feel slightly bad getting taken down by swift/fighter team!

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My oh my. In the interest of promoting my personal growth, would you care to share any concrete examples?


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Tourney was great fun! Is there going to be a "revealing" where all the smurfs are unmasked?

I wanna know who my great pard was and who the jerks were who finally took us down! ;)

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Moderated General Discussion / Re: Why Men Want Casual Sex
« on: October 26, 2017, 04:44:36 PM »
I started to watch this, and I plan to finish watching this when I have more time, possibly tonight. @~ToRa~

I got about 2.5 minutes in, and so far here are some of the things the girls said:

1. Sex is a way to get to know someone better.

2. Sex is the closest thing to magic.

3. Sex is a gift of God.

4. Sex is being vulnerable with someone.

5. Sex is a profound bonding experience.

I wouldn't argue with any of these statements, with the possible exception of number one.

I would say it makes a lot more sense to get to know someone first, before you decide to bond with them physically and emotionally with potential lifelong consequences including shared children, and then yes, continue to get to know them in more deep and intimate ways through the beautiful physical experience known as sex.

None of these statements so far are compatible with treating sex as cheap, easy, and casual, or with treating human beings as disposable objects for the purpose of bolstering one's own ego and procuring a physically pleasurable experience including orgasm.

BONDING means two things sticking together in a permanent way. And yes, the sex experience biologically and hormonally forms an emotional bond from a woman to a man, no matter how much of a scummy slime ball loser he actually is. It doesn't matter if he's an unemployed drug addict with 25 other kids from 25 different females, or if he has the intelligence of an earthworm. Because of this fact, a wise woman will be careful and choosy whom she allows into her heart and into her reproductive tract to become the potential father of her offspring.

And how does a girl with self-respect, who values herself, her body, her future family, throw her most intimate self away to random strangers who have done nothing to prove their worthiness or intention?

Fact is, every sexual partner a woman has, the less likely she is to be in a happy, stable marriage down the road.

It is particularly stupid for women to be sexually promiscuous because it lowers their market value to quality men (faithful men, good providers, intelligent, not promiscuous). A woman's youth and attractiveness lasts only so long. Eventually Ms. Throw-My-Panties-To-Every-Boner will be 30...then 40...women have a shorter shelf life than men do. So for a woman who wants to eventually be in a stable marriage relationship and have children who have a father to provide for them and help nurture them in the picture, for her to reduce her value and desirability and squander her youth on random momentary, fleeting experiences that will deplete her emotionally, physically, mentally is extremely foolish.

You have to look down the road. Where is the road leading?

I read a book written by one of these women (I like to expose myself to other perspectives and viewpoints to broaden my scope) who was now in her 40s and still single, and starting to realize that the marriage and children she assumed would be a part of her life in spite of living a carefree and promiscuous few decades, were starting to slip out of her grasp.

All the single desirable men her own age (employed, intelligent, marriage-minded) are now able to get women much younger than herself. She needed to reach up into the 50's plus age group.

Then she was thinking about freezing her eggs.

It's all a mess. I gtg but I'll continue more later.

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@(DW)Ogre About time you show up. Can you please send me back the money I sent you by mistake that was meant for didamosa?

...And are you for real? Another t-shirt order? Lol. Didn't you learn anything the first time around?

Joe doesn't want a stupid shirt lol. If he wanted one, he could order it himself and actually spell the names correctly.

You come off as sooooo troll lol. If I find out you've been lying to me all this time, I'm going to be seriously pissed off.

And no, I can't get LTFan's signature unless you want me to write it in myself in black marker. What, you think I keep him in my closet? He probably lives a thousand miles away somewhere. You'll have to ask him for his autograph yourself if or when you actually get a shirt.

And I said I'd send you the 2 shirts you requested when the money was received. I haven't received it yet.

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