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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: O4L on January 23, 2019, 07:36:28 PM

Title: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: O4L on January 23, 2019, 07:36:28 PM
Let's see #1 take on #2 in the ladder
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: baRa on January 23, 2019, 10:31:07 PM
Where is this ladder?  Auto built in or report kind?
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Lambchops on January 24, 2019, 01:53:25 AM


                        LADDER HERE (http://ladder.war2.ru/)
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: O4L on January 27, 2019, 08:51:48 AM
LoNe vs. braviet right now. That's like 2/3's of u8t3io3p but seems to be starting off good in the series
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: baRa on January 27, 2019, 02:39:00 PM
Who's u8? I've never heard of him
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 27, 2019, 04:59:17 PM
u8top3ia or whoever... szwagier

top player.. probably #2 best on gow/ef  .. arguably best alll around diverse maps/res player right now.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 27, 2019, 05:02:45 PM
u8 wins "easy" unless gowBNE F   ... lone probably #1 gowbne F
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: O4L on January 27, 2019, 05:18:05 PM
Braviet claimed the #2
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: baRa on January 27, 2019, 05:47:24 PM
What has this game come to when szwgier is #1 player..
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 27, 2019, 07:09:32 PM
time has come to this game.. time for him to get nearly as good as swift
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 27, 2019, 07:11:57 PM
just looked at ladder. surprised to see lone and szwag are about evenly matched. 46-53 swag's favor
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 27, 2019, 07:15:20 PM
swift is 37-29 (swift winning) between 00kyle and swift acctounts
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: ~ToRa~ on January 27, 2019, 10:19:34 PM
Bara is living in the 90s
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: baRa on January 27, 2019, 11:48:46 PM
I'm just saying, when the good players leave there obviously has to be a next in command from the newbs. I guess this times its lone and szwgier
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: O4L on January 28, 2019, 05:50:06 AM
Who will  be the last man standing? That is the question.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: ~ToRa~ on January 28, 2019, 06:16:05 AM
I'm just saying, when the good players leave there obviously has to be a next in command from the newbs. I guess this times its lone and szwgier

Ok so in your mind who was good?
I've played you on a smurf already your not in the top 10 on RU.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 28, 2019, 12:28:15 PM
I'm just saying, when the good players leave there obviously has to be a next in command from the newbs. I guess this times its lone and szwgier

Ok so in your mind who was good?
I've played you on a smurf already your not in the top 10 on RU.

he will be if he keeps playing
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 28, 2019, 12:29:01 PM
the knowledge is there.. just not the muscle memory/timing.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: ~ToRa~ on January 28, 2019, 01:50:30 PM
Wasn’t Wargasm one of the best once? I wouldn’t say everyone achieves their former glory.
Will be interesting to see how bara is in 6 months.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Lone on January 28, 2019, 02:34:14 PM
Lol Tora..... You must  be still enjoying wc2 so much!
Wg being the best once? hahahahahahahahahaha................... LOL
Anyway Bara does not need 6 months. He needs 15% of his former passion and a few days of duels with today's top players.

Bara > KHB x 10.
(In my experienece.)
Unlike you, I do recognize mastery and Bara will easily prove this if he sticks around.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: ~ToRa~ on January 28, 2019, 02:43:20 PM
I’m waiting to be proven wrong. Let’s see it bara.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on January 28, 2019, 04:25:44 PM
I'm just saying, when the good players leave there obviously has to be a next in command from the newbs. I guess this times its lone and szwgier
this is partly true but also sometimes some formerly weaker people play enough to make a leap
szwagier and jesk are prime examples of people that used to be worse than me that i saw surpass me big time.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Ywfn on January 28, 2019, 05:30:28 PM
szwagier and jesk are prime examples of people that used to be worse than me that i saw surpass me big time.

To be fair, over the years, there have been many examples of this phenomenon.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: woofy on January 28, 2019, 05:44:25 PM
Lol zing
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 28, 2019, 07:00:09 PM
Wasn’t Wargasm one of the best once? I wouldn’t say everyone achieves their former glory.
Will be interesting to see how bara is in 6 months.

WG was a top player.. not too bad at 1s, but exceptionally well at 2s. he seems to slowly be climbing back up there.

the GREAT players of this game either 1) have really good natural internal clocks .. or 2) play so frequently that they've trained their internal clocks to be great.

if me (or WG) quit war2 for 3 years and then come back, we know WHAT to do for the most part .. we just dont have the ability to do it because our brains have lost those connections.

right now for example, after playing weed-free for 2-3 weeks, im noticing that my brain is doing a better job of telling me 'make peon' at the appropriate time throughout the entire game.. that timer in my brain is getting better and better after i stopped smoking weed. ive also (just in the past couple days) started gaining the ability to "rotate" grunts that are currently in battle. Whichever grunt is taking the most damage I'm starting to get better at pulling it 1-2 spaces from fight, then putting it back into the fight... They seem like really small things, but they are HUGE in the course of a game.. I KNOW I should be doing it, but my brain hasnt been doing a good job of allowing me to do it until recently... just lots of repetition and it will get better and better.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 28, 2019, 07:03:22 PM
some people pick that shit up and retain it a lot better than others.. im not one of them. i gotta get lots of sober games in to get everything flowing smoothly.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: baRa on January 28, 2019, 07:24:49 PM
While I love a challenge, it is impossible at this stage in my life to play an average of 15-20 games a day, every day to achieve my former greatness. I can squeeze in 5 games a week, maybe.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Szwagier on January 29, 2019, 11:42:38 AM
diffrent between you tk and me is that whenever i went inactive  i came stronger, u came weaker xD

4 years ago jesk was far better than me, i had problems to win vs him, then i get banned for trolling claw and i didnt play w2 1,5 year
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: baRa on January 29, 2019, 01:28:35 PM
What I dont understand is how people like braviet and spb and others have literally played 100,000s of matches but are still terrible. I've played maybe 15,000 total in my career and am still the GOAT.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Szwagier on January 29, 2019, 02:27:37 PM
What I dont understand is how people like braviet and spb and others have literally played 100,000s of matches but are still terrible. I've played maybe 15,000 total in my career and am still the GOAT.
1 game =/= 1 game
1 game can be 5 min like chop 4x4,
1 game can be 30 min like hsc 1x1

viet is losing his skills, he was better but its only my opinion,

its happen if some1 are just playing, 0 think about "why i lost last game"
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: tk[as] on January 29, 2019, 10:36:27 PM
your name never comes up.. period. so GOAT might be a stretch.

everyone s brain is different. your internal timers are either probably better than other's internal timers.. or you played 100 games a day every day for months/years on end with little interruptions.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: baRa on January 29, 2019, 11:14:51 PM
A lot of the people who say "this guy or that guy" is the best ever are only fueling the propaganda of other players opinions.

I'd wager that 90% of players that claim for example KHB is the GOAT have played less than 3 games with/against him. Newer generations just echo what has been spewed in the past.

What makes a certain player GOAT?

All around ability. Longevity.

Often debates who is GOAT in NBA, MJ or Lebron. EASY.
It's most definitely MJ. Why? He was not only good in the regular season, often having beat team records, but also a playoff beast. Undefeated in the finals.

Same principles can be applied to the GOAT war2 player.

Not only did I dominate the entire fastest speed for almost a decade, playing humans. When at the time I can think of 2 maybe 3 players who played humans exclusively.

I then set my fastest crown aside and migrated to ef. Also being a dominant force with the human race when literally no one other than Doug played with humans fulltime.

Now I can only think of 1 other player with the same storied history as me. And that's swift.

That is why I have respect for him as a player, both travelling almost identical paths to super stardom.

Ash was good at ef
Valkrie was good at ef
Khb was good at ef

That is all they were good at. Chew on that.

Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Szwagier on January 30, 2019, 01:41:34 AM
Noone Care about your opinion, since u put in your list player who got caught on hacks
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Shotgun on January 30, 2019, 02:10:54 AM
I was the best on fastest from when BNET was released until I stopped playing it, I don't even know who Bara is, lol.

There are 2 Goats, Nerzyman and myself. The rest of you are all newbies.
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Szwagier on January 30, 2019, 04:13:15 AM
Didnt blizzard add fastest with bne w2?
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: woofy on January 30, 2019, 06:25:38 AM
Clearly im the GOAT
Title: Re: LoNe vs. u8t3io3p
Post by: Shotgun on January 30, 2019, 06:50:29 AM
Didnt blizzard add fastest with bne w2?

Yeah it was only added when Bnet was released, was a fun novelty for the first year but then everyone got sick of it and went back to EF