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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: iL on March 17, 2015, 10:55:28 AM
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You stop to attack this server and forum staff and other members of community, and stop to spam topics by that request to "close that hacking client".
I ask other admins/mods to unban you.
The war is over, you continue posting and playing, we relax and continue our admin/mod job, everyone is happy.
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do you realize eq has given at least 10 promises, all of which he has broken? moreover, 95% of his activity is the client talk?
if i see ONE post about the client OUTSIDE of the client thread without consequences, i will take action, just so you know. It hurts my OCD and i dislike double standards in general
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You stop to attack this server and forum staff and other members of community, and stop to spam topics by that request to "close that hacking client".
I ask other admins/mods to unban you.
The war is over, you continue posting and playing, we relax and continue our admin/mod job, everyone is happy.
I think we got a deal right here if you close this client.
I will be the best behavior ever on history of war2 after.
Thats a fair request and you absolutly know it, this client bring hacks, even if you made a anti hack, this client bring latency bug, latency bug is nightmare for pro players who need to get peon outside of gold mine for ressource management.
You maybe not playing but pro players exactly know about what i talk, it cost alot of games to people who need to use ressource management.
Also, your anti hack not give us confident about anything, your anti hack is only good for you, your the only one to know truth.
People have use the ss way for ten years, they like the game like this, caught hacker by themself is also a challenge..
But is not a challenge when you cant caught them, if you close this client, it will be the same as before, but hackers gonna get caught for real if they still try to map hack.
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He's not agreeing to close the client. He's agreeing to vote for unbanning you if you shut up about the client. This is waste of time IMO, it assumes that Equinox is a reasonable person, and he's demonstrated on numerous occasions that he is not. He's spammed the forum, website & server multiple times at the drop of the feather, there's no reason to believe he won't do it again.
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you dint even know me, you know me since 6 month, i have never had probleme with nobody before, im pretty respectable, ive never get ban in 10 years, but pretty legit too and i will do what it need to make this game legit, we play your way 10 years, its time to play the legit way.
And your right moutopher, im a man of word, if i said i stop, i stop, if i said i keep, i keep.
Never i have beg for pitty because never i have give my word, everytime you ban me you already know i dont cares because i dint give any word.
If i give my word to il, i will be the best behavior ever , because its gonna be the first time i give my word.
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this thread reminds me of that episode of the simpsons where bart and lisa were vs in hockey
and chief wiggum tells convicts ill let u watch hockey game.. you don't have to come backk but if you promise not to commit any more crimes lol
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2vwwjmw.png)
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He's not agreeing to close the client. He's agreeing to vote for unbanning you if you shut up about the client. This is waste of time IMO, it assumes that Equinox is a reasonable person, and he's demonstrated on numerous occasions that he is not. He's spammed the forum, website & server multiple times at the drop of the feather, there's no reason to believe he won't do it again.
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I think we got a deal right here if you close this client.
I will be the best behavior ever on history of war2 after.
Thats a fair request and you absolutly know it, this client bring hacks, even if you made a anti hack, this client bring latency bug, latency bug is nightmare for pro players who need to get peon outside of gold mine for ressource management.
Yes, it's fair request, but here's a disagreement:
We already discussed that, i don't see a reason to repeat.
You think that will be useful, i think it will be harmful.
Nobody of us can prove that, it's a question of belief.
So, as soon as i'm admin here, i take the final decision. Makes sense, agree?
You maybe not playing but pro players exactly know about what i talk, it cost alot of games to people who need to use ressource management.
Hm, an idea:
let's make a poll to let us know what others think about that, explaining the options.
You feel free to call other to vote as they wish.
Looks like nobody cares of that problem except you.
The democracy is a good thing.
Also, your anti hack not give us confident about anything, your anti hack is only good for you, your the only one to know truth.
If you don't trust me, there's nothing to talk then. I can "close that hacking client" for everyone except several Peculiar, nobody knows about that, agree?
People have use the ss way for ten years, they like the game like this, caught hacker by themself is also a challenge..
Closing client is not a total solution also: what a problem to edit SS before posting it?
Only the proper antihack will help to stop cheating.
If i give my word to il, i will be the best behavior ever , because its gonna be the first time i give my word.
I trust that, Equinox never promised to not do what he do. So i don' see a reason to distrust him.
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I trust that, Equinox never promised to not do what he do. So i don' see a reason to distrust him.
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I feel like every thread on this web site, regardless of the topic, always leads to the same people bitching and the same people complaining. It makes these forums terrible. I have to read 4 pages of complete crap on every thread to actually find the few posts that consist of solid content. It is annoying as hell and because of this I don't read many threads.
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I feel like every thread on this web site, regardless of the topic, always leads to the same people bitching and the same people complaining. It makes these forums terrible. I have to read 4 pages of complete crap on every thread to actually find the few posts that consist of solid content. It is annoying as hell and because of this I don't read many threads.
Yes, that is what im talking about in this topic.
I hope Equinox will stop that. I really dislike him to be banned, but we coud have no choice if he continue...
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I got a question for you iL, dont take this like spamm, just answer.
You talk about democracy right? What about of communauty vote if we close this client or not?
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I think its fair to have a community vote about closing client and if they vote no equinox not bring it up again. Sounds fair?
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I think its fair to have a community vote about closing client and if they vote no equinox not bring it up again. Sounds fair?
We put a deadline on it, 1Month vote, we let peoples see who votes, we dont hide the votes, if we do this and peoples still vote no, i give my word i will shut my mouth about that for the rest of my life.
If they vote yes, we close other clients/patches acces on this server.
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Interesting idea. My prediction is that they will definitely vote no...
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They will definitely vote no...
You definitly know nothing about this, its your own opinion and since we are 30 players since ten years and i was good behavior since 9 years and six month, your opinion dont really matter.
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Well, the fact I think they will vote no makes me more interested in accepting your proposal, heh
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Well, the fact I think they will vote no makes me more interested in accepting your proposal, heh
**They will vote no** not mean you and your staff btw, the only one who can vote in your staff is burnt since he is the only one who play this game.
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We can all vote as we are all part of the community. Besides, I do play.
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We can all vote as we are all part of the community. Besides, I do play.
No, this is about game play vote, i dont see why peoplse who dont play this game can vote about it.
Wich names are you playing.
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Here's just one very recent:
http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=crashman (http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=crashman)
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Here's just one very recent:
[url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=crashman[/url] ([url]http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php/php?player=crashman[/url])
It just proof you dint cares about this game, 5 games in the 2 last month is nothing.
I do 30 games per day, other peoples probably do around or same or mores.
But let believe it's fair and talk about you, burnt and tk if he want, no moutopher, no il.
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I have lots of names I use, that's just one. And I played other games with that name that weren't 1v1.
crashman's normal record is now 13/8/0 (0 draws)
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I have lots of names I use, that's just one. And I played other games with that name that weren't 1v1.
crashman's normal record is now 13/8/0 (0 draws)
Dont take this like a spam or insult, but why are you smurfing when you know it kill game, dont you think people want to see blid and it will motivated them to keep playing instead of smurfing peoples?
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i can forsee equinox fakeing ip-accounts votes on that survey lol
dude is irrational
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i can forsee equinox fakeing ip-accounts votes on that survey lol
dude is irrational
I said we let votes open, we dont hide votes.
Learn to read.
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yes 1vote from merrath 1vote from getready 1vote from equinox
lol
and from your previous banning experiences you have become an adept at circumventing ip bans havent ya
8)
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I have lots of names I use, that's just one. And I played other games with that name that weren't 1v1.
crashman's normal record is now 13/8/0 (0 draws)
Dont take this like a spam or insult, but why are you smurfing when you know it kill game, dont you think people want to see blid and it will motivated them to keep playing instead of smurfing peoples?
I think it is always good for the game to have people that will join games, not ruin them or hack, and who have decent skills enough to keep the game balanced.
I prefer to smurf because I don't like to care if I win or I lose. If I'm on my own name and I play poorly I feel upset and the game is less enjoyable.
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I have lots of names I use, that's just one. And I played other games with that name that weren't 1v1.
crashman's normal record is now 13/8/0 (0 draws)
Dont take this like a spam or insult, but why are you smurfing when you know it kill game, dont you think people want to see blid and it will motivated them to keep playing instead of smurfing peoples?
I think it is always good for the game to have people that will join games, not ruin them or hack, and who have decent skills enough to keep the game balanced.
I prefer to smurf because I don't like to care if I win or I lose. If I'm on my own name and I play poorly I feel upset and the game is less enjoyable.
Your free to think what you want, but being blid will give an effect of family in this game and will give interess to peoples to keep playing it.
Not my buisnees anyway, what about that pool vote.
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In the past I've had smurf names that have played hundreds of games and made a lot of friends with people in the community.
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I won't decide about the vote. I need to see what iL and others think.
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You know what give me access I will shut down the hacker client. If people are having issues connecting they are using hack or incorrect versions.
Now how much different is the exe file compared for different languages.
So i would just use the client version info to determine the client and kill connection instead of version check.
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i can forsee equinox fakeing ip-accounts votes on that survey lol
dude is irrational
100% it will happen no doubt
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Dudes's already biased.
1. He says admins that don't play cant vote.
2. Players that play 'little' can't vote. WTF? If I play 1 hour or 10 hours per day/week, it does not matter. I should be able to vote.
I think that people not playing the game but having as (remote) interest in war2 for example ganz, jon etc can vote. They are part of the community just by posting there.
Lastly, if the poll goes ahead AND it is obvious that people will not be happy with shutting down on players like knit, jesk, butcher etc, he will come and say many players did not vote...
I don't see this as a good idea.
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I got a question for you iL, dont take this like spamm, just answer.
You talk about democracy right? What about of communauty vote if we close this client or not?
Sure, that is what i talked about in my previous post:
Hm, an idea:
let's make a poll to let us know what others think about that, explaining the options.
You feel free to call other to vote as they wish.
Looks like nobody cares of that problem except you.
The democracy is a good thing.
I think democracy is our way to handle the project.
My way is not to follow my own line contradicting to community and to stop good ideas. My way is to follow the community.
So sure, let's post that poll. That's really interesting for me if there's anyone who cares about closing that client except you. I never saw anyone agreed with your idea here.
My only task to prevent that poll manipulation, like making 100500 faked forum accounts...
1 real person - 1 vote.
Or like threatment (i don't be wondered so see something like that from your side).
Equinox, it probably looks like a war from your side: war between you and our admins to force us do what you want.
From my side it's not a war, just a common sense: to to do something useful and not to do something harmful.
Spamming, insulting, slander, threats, crying, imploring are manipulation methods and they will never help you here on this forum and i think never help you in real life. They can probably help for short time, but will be more harmful for you as a result.
At the same time convincing argumentation and considering others' opinions is something that should be respected by other people. Let's act this way please.
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I got a question for you iL, dont take this like spamm, just answer.
You talk about democracy right? What about of communauty vote if we close this client or not?
Sure, that is what i talked about in my previous post:
Hm, an idea:
let's make a poll to let us know what others think about that, explaining the options.
You feel free to call other to vote as they wish.
Looks like nobody cares of that problem except you.
The democracy is a good thing.
I think democracy is our way to handle the project.
My way is not to follow my own line contradicting to community and to stop good ideas. My way is to follow the community.
So sure, let's post that poll. That's really interesting for me if there's anyone who cares about closing that client except you. I never saw anyone agreed with your idea here.
My only task to prevent that poll manipulation, like making 100500 faked forum accounts...
1 real person - 1 vote.
Or like threatment (i don't be wondered so see something like that from your side).
Equinox, it probably looks like a war from your side: war between you and our admins to force us do what you want.
From my side it's not a war, just a common sense: to to do something useful and not to do something harmful.
Spamming, insulting, slander, threats, crying, imploring are manipulation methods and they will never help you here on this forum and i think never help you in real life. They can probably help for short time, but will be more harmful for you as a result.
At the same time convincing argumentation and support from other people is something that should be respected by other people. Let's act this way please.
The only thing i see is you let peoples hacks. Even if your making an anti hack for no reason, since four month your still let peoples hacks.
All of this because you probably dont like me and dont want to agree with me.
But your still let peoples hacks, and from last news, hacking is banned, so you dint even respect your own rules by letting peoples hacks.
Anyway everyone know, your not gonna find new player with war2original client and what german said is all bullshit.
I tell it 30 times, BHC-Jesk made an add on for war2ru client in german, they have no reason to use this client as a language barrer.
Your the one who killing this game by banning the most valuable player for this game, the one who take cares of this server more then anybody here, your staff is also killing the game by all these rules.
Since start you have two choice.. Close this client and make me to your side and build this communauty togheter since it does 10 years you cant do it by yourself. Or two, keep going against me and make me mad everyday. You are the one with power since start, you are the one who made your choice since start.
I stay on this game 12 hours per day if it's not more, do you even realise everything i do for this game, i dont think so because i have never see you on your own server.
Harmfull, it cant be more harmfull of since ten years.
People dont agree because they are scare to talk, make that pool please, thank you.
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hacking is banned
Your the one who killing this game by banning the most valuable player for this game
You're a hacker. You aren't valuable, you're disposable and no harm will be done with you gone.
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All of this because you probably dont like me and dont want to agree with me.
I probably don't like you since you attack me and other good people, but my desicions are not related to my personal relations.
Here's your poll: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,665.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,665.0.html)
I really don't care to keep my decision if the majority vote for your option. I'm being guided by my common sense as i see it, but i can be wrong as any other person. Let them make their choice themselves, i feel that fair.
Check if you feel that poll is fair.
Maximum votes per user: 2
Run the poll for: 30 days
Show the poll's results to anyone.
Allow everyone to see votes.
Allow vote comment
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swift hacks, swift is banned, swift is let back. rinse repeate * 3
dun be hypocritical, equinox is at least entertaining with his delusions. swift is a giant dickface who is let off and then is a giant asshole to top it off. ::)
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Wtf maximum vote per users, 2 ?? i dont understand.
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I guess if you wanted to check both boxes? Or maybe check one box, and type one comment.