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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 18, 2018, 10:06:46 PM »Go crawl under your covers and cry about how sad your life is.
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Go crawl under your covers and cry about how sad your life is.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 18, 2018, 11:00:16 AM »
You never answered. Show me a quote.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 18, 2018, 10:55:59 AM »
Marx you say your smart right?
If you had control how would you realistically solve this issue?
If you had control how would you realistically solve this issue?
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 17, 2018, 01:08:29 PM »only huge bitches live in tel'aviv
Do you play war2? Poi is a stereotypical Zionist and a regular player. Just see what he says about the whole Israeli Palestinian conflict.
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General Discussion / Re: Happy Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2018, 12:32:07 PM »you're not muslim
And Ben Carson isn't black right?
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General Discussion / Re: Happy Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2018, 12:31:30 PM »
The belief in One God, Allah Almighty (Arabic word for God is Allah) and the belief that Muhammed (peace be upon him) is His slave and His messenger.
This is, when said in words, also the first Pillar of Islam (there are 4 others but only this one makes someone Muslim immediately after is said, with true belief in a hearth) and Islamic Creed. One cannot be a Muslim without it.
Other 4 Pillars of Islam are also required but if not fulfilled, the person is (by the opinion of many scholars of Islam) still Muslim, but a Muslim who is sinning by not doing them (especially so about 2nd Pillar, which is a mandatory prayer to Allah Almighty and there is a split opinion among scholars about someone being a Muslim or not, if he/she is failing to do mandatory prayer but still maintain the 1st one.).
Allah/God knows best.
This is, when said in words, also the first Pillar of Islam (there are 4 others but only this one makes someone Muslim immediately after is said, with true belief in a hearth) and Islamic Creed. One cannot be a Muslim without it.
Other 4 Pillars of Islam are also required but if not fulfilled, the person is (by the opinion of many scholars of Islam) still Muslim, but a Muslim who is sinning by not doing them (especially so about 2nd Pillar, which is a mandatory prayer to Allah Almighty and there is a split opinion among scholars about someone being a Muslim or not, if he/she is failing to do mandatory prayer but still maintain the 1st one.).
Allah/God knows best.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 17, 2018, 12:21:40 PM »
If you get a chance both of you should smurf IamPoiuyt(he lives in Tel'aviv) and ask him "what do you think about the gazans dying on the border?"
I just did it to him this morning, very funny response I got.
I just did it to him this morning, very funny response I got.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 17, 2018, 11:47:05 AM »fatah is israeli collaborators and really dont get shit out of it. anyway we know who the bad guys are in this situation. we also basically know what drives them to it, it's a supremacist ideology known as zionism. theyre that way because they were indoctrinated that way.
Zionism teaches Jewish people that Israel is their birth place and that every Jewish person has a right to return. As I already said I don't believe in this ideology.
However the fact remains millions of Jews do believe this and are indoctrinated with it. Palestinians in their eyes are little more than illegal immigrants. I've had Jewish people go so far as to say Jordan is actually Palestine and all Palestinians need to be deported there.
Palestinians on the other hand are natives to the land of Israel, anyone that's not brainwashed can conclude the Palestinians have a right to the land of Israel.
Both Palestinian groups Fatah and Hamas believe that Israel has no legitimacy as a country.
Both sides are unable to come to concessions to stop the war.
Israel isn't going anywhere. They have become a legitimate country on the world stage with a robust military and economy.
However having millions of Native Palestinians makes them viewed as a "terrorist state" in the eyes of many, as evidenced by this thread. Eventually Israel will need to correct themselves and make concessions with the Palestinians.
Palestinians are unwilling to accept that the original state of Palestine is all but in the history books. The Fatah and Hamas movement won't recognize the state of Israel for fear they will lose their right to return.
Palestinians will need to accept at some point that Israel is a sovereign country now and they must now lobby for the same rights as Israeli citizens.
Gandhi and Mandela wouldn't have approved of the tactics that Hamas uses to fight for the rights of it's citizens.
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General Discussion / Happy Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2018, 11:22:03 AM »
Ramadan Kareem war2ru,
Brief explanation of Ramadan,
Ramadan is the ninth month in the Muslim lunar calendar. Healthy adult Muslims fast in Ramadan from dawn until dusk. This includes abstaining from drinking, eating, immoral acts and anger. Other acts of worship such as prayer, reading the Quran and charity are also encouraged during Ramadan.
Muslims also believe that the Quran was revealed in Ramadan.
During the holy month, Muslims wake up early to eat a pre-dawn meal called suhoor, and break their fast with a meal referred to as iftar.
It is common for mosques to host large iftars, especially for the poor and needy. Nightly prayers called Tarawih are also held in mosques after iftar.
Different cultures have different traditions during Ramadan, whether it is a special food they must cook, or eating iftar with the extended family.
When is Ramadan?
Ramadan begins today May 17, 2018.
Since Ramadan is part of a lunar calendar, its date annually changes on the Gregorian calendar. Muslims tend to wait for the new month's moon to appear before they announce the first day of Ramadan. However, they can still estimate the day beforehand.
Why do Muslims fast during Ramadan?
Fasting during Ramadan is one of the five pillars of Islam. There are also verses in the Quran that prescribes fasting for all Muslims who are mature and healthy enough to fast for the full day. Muslims fast as an act of worship and for a chance to get closer to God. And as a way to become more compassionate to those in need.
Fasting is also seen as a way to learn patience and break bad habits.
When does Ramadan end?
Based on the astronomical charts, Ramadan ends on the evening of June 14.
The first day of the next month, Shawwal, is expected to be on June 15, once again subject to confirmation after an official sighting of the new moon.
The first day of the next Islamic month Shawwal is also the date of Eid al-Fitr, the festival of breaking the fast.
Brief explanation of Ramadan,
Ramadan is the ninth month in the Muslim lunar calendar. Healthy adult Muslims fast in Ramadan from dawn until dusk. This includes abstaining from drinking, eating, immoral acts and anger. Other acts of worship such as prayer, reading the Quran and charity are also encouraged during Ramadan.
Muslims also believe that the Quran was revealed in Ramadan.
During the holy month, Muslims wake up early to eat a pre-dawn meal called suhoor, and break their fast with a meal referred to as iftar.
It is common for mosques to host large iftars, especially for the poor and needy. Nightly prayers called Tarawih are also held in mosques after iftar.
Different cultures have different traditions during Ramadan, whether it is a special food they must cook, or eating iftar with the extended family.
When is Ramadan?
Ramadan begins today May 17, 2018.
Since Ramadan is part of a lunar calendar, its date annually changes on the Gregorian calendar. Muslims tend to wait for the new month's moon to appear before they announce the first day of Ramadan. However, they can still estimate the day beforehand.
Why do Muslims fast during Ramadan?
Fasting during Ramadan is one of the five pillars of Islam. There are also verses in the Quran that prescribes fasting for all Muslims who are mature and healthy enough to fast for the full day. Muslims fast as an act of worship and for a chance to get closer to God. And as a way to become more compassionate to those in need.
Fasting is also seen as a way to learn patience and break bad habits.
When does Ramadan end?
Based on the astronomical charts, Ramadan ends on the evening of June 14.
The first day of the next month, Shawwal, is expected to be on June 15, once again subject to confirmation after an official sighting of the new moon.
The first day of the next Islamic month Shawwal is also the date of Eid al-Fitr, the festival of breaking the fast.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 16, 2018, 01:42:23 PM »
There are certain individuals in the world that are “evil” but within every group are normal people that doesn’t nesisarily agree with everything their group does.
We could break down every one of your points and see what lead to each world event. Am I interested in doing so right this minute? No.
Calling the other side “evil” won’t make the other side interested in hearing what you have to say.
Palestinians on the west bank don’t face such economic hardships and displacement as their gaza counterparts because the fatah movement is able to negotiate with the Israeli government better than the hamas government.
We could break down every one of your points and see what lead to each world event. Am I interested in doing so right this minute? No.
Calling the other side “evil” won’t make the other side interested in hearing what you have to say.
Palestinians on the west bank don’t face such economic hardships and displacement as their gaza counterparts because the fatah movement is able to negotiate with the Israeli government better than the hamas government.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 16, 2018, 01:30:42 PM »Because they're bad
Common give a real answer. The world isn’t black and white. Demonization of the so called “enemies won’t solve any problems.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 16, 2018, 01:27:52 PM »But I think Israel going too far with their psychopathy and losing American support is not altogether unrealistic, and without US support the situation would change dramatically).If your right here then in time America will cut off support themselves. Obama did have his government abstain from vetoing in the UN on human rights abuse at the end of his term.
Who cares what the Israelis view things as? They're run by right-wing nutjobs. They massacred 50+ and injured thousands while suffering zero injuries. We should be able to denounce this as wrong.
It does matter how the Israelis view things because they are ones the Palestinians have to live with and negotiate with. This whole us vs them mentality doesn’t work.
The Israelis use excessive force and there citizens are fine with it. Ever wonder why that is?
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 16, 2018, 01:15:16 PM »I mean, it could get so much better so fast if the US stopped supporting Israel in every single aggression and atrocity it commits. the US vetoes every security council resolution that's brought to the UN. if the US would stop backing up Israel as Israel basically behaves in a genocidal fashion, a more equitable peace could be made between the parties. The two-state solution was quite realistic until israel continued to swiss cheese large amounts of intended palestinian land with illegal settlements, which again should be condemned adn those should be dismantled. And heck i'd take a one-state democratic solution here.
The two state solution has been talked about for decades and decades. Clearly this approach hasn’t worked. There needs to be a new solution.
The US government will likely never stop supporting the israeli government which leaves the Palestinians and Israelis to work out a solution themselves.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 16, 2018, 01:10:58 PM »see my previous post, if the people of the United States refused to stand for apartheid, their situation could be vastly improved. Again you're saying if it's not likely, we should forget about it and allow massacres of protesters to take place. Whether it's realistic or not, the protesters should not be blamed for crying out at the injustice, or for being massacred. You should apologize.
The Israelis view them as being hostile hence why they are attcking them. Neither of us know what’s actually happening on the Gaza strip but i’ll say since the election of the Hamas government there life has deteriorated. War has been a common occurrence. The fatah government doesn’t deal with this many problems.
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General Discussion / Re: izrael=terrorist
« on: May 16, 2018, 01:07:08 PM »You blame them for dying, instead of blaming the Israelis for killing them and running an apartheid state and the long-term campaign of ethnic cleansing known as zionism.
I don’t believe in Zionism. Because I don’t believe jewish people have a right of return to Israel.
Probably the best solution would be for Israel to simply give the Palestinians Israeli citizenship. That would give Palestinians the right to vote.