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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: baRa on July 01, 2020, 01:06:19 PM

Title: Ladder
Post by: baRa on July 01, 2020, 01:06:19 PM
Whos in charge of the ladder.ru? The doubles section hasnt been updated in forever. The teams and games section is out of date.

Seems to me that we are taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back in regards to bettering the game and server.

Asking for a friend
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 01, 2020, 04:16:47 PM
Pika (Jordan) stole the code from Lance and Blid just takes credit for it. He has no idea how to fix something without breaking it more.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: baRa on July 01, 2020, 05:19:46 PM
Well thats a shame. It seems like picka/jordan is the skidmark on the pretty white panties that is war2
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Shotgun on July 02, 2020, 02:04:12 AM
Singles ladder works fine, I don't think anyone cares about the teams ladder much. Would be cool if it was fixed though, maybe there would be more decent 2on2s.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: woofy on July 02, 2020, 03:24:17 AM
@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) work your magic!
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 02, 2020, 04:43:37 PM
Pika (Jordan) stole the code from Lance and Blid just takes credit for it. He has no idea how to fix something without breaking it more.
I don't know how you became some broken, Burnt.  Starting at almost zero knowledge, I taught myself enough coding to create that ladder from scratch, spending dozens of hours on it.  It's no masterpiece and I'm not demanding praise for it but to say I stole it and to just pass off completely made up stories as if they're fact is downright poisonous.  If Lance saw the code I'm sure he would quickly distance himself from it, since it's totally amateur and certainly looks nothing like anything he ever created.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 02, 2020, 04:52:12 PM
It was a damn near perfect copy of Lances crystal dawn site.

You claim pika is a good guy but he went into Lances personal computer just like your buddy has done to me too.

I use to hate Lance with a passion for being caught map hacking. As a mature adult though cheating at a video game is hardly a crime. But looking back at it what you guys did to him was pretty fucked up. Pika should be banned from the forums for using pictures in his avatar that were stolen off of Lances computer.

People get on my case for being friends with van but look at the people you associate with as your right hand men. Nothing but real life hackers.

Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 02, 2020, 05:01:16 PM
Singles ladder works fine, I don't think anyone cares about the teams ladder much. Would be cool if it was fixed though, maybe there would be more decent 2on2s.
Because of the facts of my above post -- I'm not a programmer, and just taught myself to code for a one-time project 10 or so years ago -- I'm not really fit to fix anything with it.  iL cleaned up some of my work when he took over but in the case of the teams ladder disabled some things, some addresses moved and thus broke, and some things were security issues, so now it's been down ever since.

However, my lesson from the days of the 2s ladder is that it is not really a viable project and is not worth the effort to prop it back up.  Because even when it did work, which it did for awhile, it was for more effective just as a curiosity and a huge bloated database for people to look up their records when allying various people than it ever was as an actual team exercise or ranking system.  That was for two main reasons:

1) It logged every two-player combination who played together as a team automatically, but these teams would by default be unranked.  You could also "activate" a team -- someone from a two-player combo would register as captain and make a team page, name the team, decorate the page, add players (up to 4 total), and so on.  I had it crosscheck your IP as you accessed the ladder page with your IP in the bnet database to decide what player you are and whether you have access to activate a particular team (security issue!).

In any case, teams would then move from unranked to ranked when they played 10 games together.  Because there were so many permutations of players and teams ending up ranked, someone actually interested in having a team couldn't easily face off against any of these random two-player teams who ended up ahead of them on the ladder.  People who were actually interested in using the ladder complained.

2) Upon request from TK, I dug back into it and made it so the ladder only ranked formally activated teams.  Now the problem became the opposite: there were only ever a maximum of like 4-5 teams on the ladder.  It was pretty pointless, and once again basically dead.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 02, 2020, 05:12:56 PM
It was a damn near perfect copy of Lances crystal dawn site.
Oh, I forgot to mention, Frostbitten made the stylesheet for the ladder!  That was all him (much thanks to him!), so if you think the concept of a table showing Rank | Name | Record | Streak is super original to Lance, then it must have been Frostbitten that stole his code.  But those are just the natural things to display, and neither they nor the ranking system itself were even Lance's creation.  It's from the old Case's ladder, aka IGL.net that War2 players used back in the day.  And neither Lance nor we stole that code; we just both independently created ladders that worked the same way because we liked that system.

You claim pika is a good guy but he went into Lances personal computer just like your buddy has done to me too.

I use to hate Lance with a passion for being caught map hacking. As a mature adult though cheating at a video game is hardly a crime. But looking back at it what you guys did to him was pretty fucked up. Pika should be banned from the forums for using pictures in his avatar that were stolen off of Lances computer.

People get on my case for being friends with van but look at the people you associate with as your right hand men. Nothing but real life hackers.
LOL, I didn't work with Picka on taking the server back or hacking Lance at all.  That was you, dude!!!!  Stop and try to remember.  Btw, I don't even blame you for it because Lance first pretended to be some guy called Iceberg in order to convince Ldir to let him host the server when Ldir needed help.  He then began to abuse his position as host by banning some player IPs from accessing his server (not even banning them within War2 where we could unban them, just banning them from his website and everything).  He also was map hacking freely without repercussion, editing game reports, and so on. 

He would have probably gone on doing all that long-term, but you put USA~Feature in some kind of fake admin training program where he could eventually be made full admin if he did a bunch of tasks, but you never intended to let him actually be an admin.  Lance made Feature an admin and then you and he got in a huge pissing match over it, and Lance started rewriting people's war2.ru gateway to crystaldawn to take control of the server and playerbase outright.  That's when you brought in Picka.  Ringing any bells here?
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 02, 2020, 05:32:43 PM
Lmao now I brought in pika? When yesterday you were bragging about you him and Jordan being best friends who played FFA's all day. You are a scrub piece of scum.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 02, 2020, 05:38:20 PM
Picka was around from early War2 days and hated Lance for a long time so he didn't exactly have to be "brought in," but it was you who asked him to help get the server back from Lance, yes. 

Think long and hard about it.  Do you not remember USA~Feature's admin, and you and Lance getting in a showdown over him and then Lance rewriting user gateways to retain the player base even if War2.ru stopped forwarding users to crystaldawn?  Do you not remember reaching out to Picka at that time?

Can you not recall these events?
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 02, 2020, 05:47:06 PM
I remember you and pika doing it. Stealing Lances ladder and hacking his and my computer. How about you ban your buddy now from the forum for his avatar or are you going to keep covering for your piece of shit hacker friend Jordan.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 02, 2020, 06:00:57 PM
Stealing Lances ladder
There you go again with the lies and slander.  Since you aren't well you shouldn't go around accusing people of things. 

I'm on a new computer now but was able to find a version of my ladder's code.  The idea of it being stolen from Lance is laughable and I could send it to Lance himself and have him say so when he sees how it's written.  So fuck off
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: baRa on July 02, 2020, 06:01:35 PM
Well this escalated quickly  :poo:
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 02, 2020, 06:07:22 PM
Well, my ladder is original work, and Burnt is making up lies, and seeing someone like you just say "Oh that sucks," just casually accepting it as if there's any truth to it is painful to see. 

I'm not actually even sure Lance's ladder was original now that I think about it since it might have been publicly on sourceforge or something, but mine was certainly original.  I worked hard on it.

Also, Burnt memory-holed the entire USA~Feature saga apparently, which is what brought things to a head.  I don't know how anyone could think I had anything to do with all that.  I would've let USA~Feature be admin and let it go.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 02, 2020, 06:15:52 PM
Lance has already confirmed you stole his ladder.

How about YOU fuck off and leave these forums and game forever. You and your buddies have been corrupt for long enough. Time for you to hit the road.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 02, 2020, 06:45:44 PM
Me and my buddies? I thought we were all the same person or whatever the hell.

Anyway, Lance can’t “confirm” anything without seeing the actual code. I highly doubt he claims a code is his that scrapes oldgames.php and sloppily filters out the foreign language game reports. I did it all with just access to public pages and I find it unlikely he did the same.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 02, 2020, 06:51:34 PM
Lance already did confirm it was his ladder on war2 occult so stfu and leave the forums. And quit logging on my name hacker trash.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: ~ToRa~ on July 02, 2020, 08:51:40 PM
Are Blid and Xurnt really the same person after skimming through this I actually don’t think it’s that far fetched....

Lol
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 02, 2020, 10:01:20 PM
Lol tora
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: picka_materina on July 02, 2020, 10:06:25 PM
Rofl. Burnt went total mental. Not sure what happened in your life to affect your mental state so much, but you even talked to me on AIM or MSN (not sure which of 2) about these things. For example, i didn't talk to blid ever on any IM. Only people i talked there with were Jordan/~il/Ldir and you. To fabricate so much stuff is insane, i wish someone saved occult forums i'd bring it back up just for memories.
But im pretty sure you'd then claim i "edited the database" and "posts" to make it look like something :) Cause you're loony like that.

edit:
And yea, lances ladder was complete code from someone else, i wrote about it on occult. I obviously forgot about that and i don't recall which ladder it was. He claimed it was "heavily modified" by him lol. But ladders worked in complete opposite ways.

edit2:
Yea, editing these as i remember.
I also remember lance fucked with you IRL by calling your parents, talking how you are homeless cause they kicked you out or something like that, that you went to jail etc etc. I have no idea how much of that is true as you didn't really deny much of it and you were gone for months at the time after he started fucking with you, but it's clear you had some real tough childhood and i wish you that you recover properly as it clearly has taken a toll.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: ~ToRa~ on July 02, 2020, 10:23:32 PM
I do think Pika a smurf. Guy doesn’t play or show his face on the forums at all.

Then randomly when he is mentioning is suddenly posting like crazy like he is following the forum without ever logging in.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: picka_materina on July 02, 2020, 10:26:43 PM
I load the forum last few days since you guys like talking about me. You're either all so bored, or heavily under influence as you're reading way too much into normal things.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 02, 2020, 10:32:26 PM
You are mental Jordan. You and Blid are exposed.

Why do you think it was ok for you to go into Lances computer? You did the nazi flags long before Lance rewrote gateways. You wear a pic of his gf as your avatar.

Even if what Lance was doing was wrong yours was 20x worst.

KingHillBilly and Nova (donger) were the ones who put Map Hacks links to warcrap in their profiles and got banned by Lance. Ldir already planned on moving the server back out of his control and obviously did it already for Lance to even start a migration.

You were a creep to me when I was younger. I NEVER told you to do any criminal acts. I already thought you were bad news by the way you turned everyone to Nazi icon. Plus I wouldn't risk telling you to do something and there being evidence against me while you could hide behind vpns. I was young but not that stupid.

You (Jordan) and Blid are in the official war2 hall of shame.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: picka_materina on July 02, 2020, 10:40:51 PM
You are mental Jordan. You and Blid are exposed.
Why do you think it was ok for you to go into Lances computer? You did the nazi flags long before Lance rewrote gateways. You wear a pic of his gf as your avatar.

Even if what Lance was doing was wrong yours was 20x worst.

KingHillBilly and Nova (donger) were the ones who put Map Hacks links to warcrap in their profiles and got banned by Lance. Ldir already planned on moving the server back out of his control and obviously did it already for Lance to even start a migration.

You were a creep to me when I was younger. I NEVER told you to do any criminal acts. I already thought you were bad news by the way you turned everyone to Nazi icon. Plus I wouldn't risk telling you to do something and there being evidence against me while you could hide behind vpns. I was young but not that stupid.

You (Jordan) and Blid are in the official war2 hall of shame.
Lance really did a number on you. I now remember he accused you of the same things he accused me. Problem is, he doesn't know me, and he dug out everything about you. No, you did not tell me to do this or that. I believe he even contacted your parole officer. I said we spoke on IM. You spoke mostly about your life problems, that's it. You did ask me to help on the forums however, but that's besides the point, i would have "helped" anyway since lance was a creep and i cared about the game at the time, plus it was funny as all hell. It seems it worked on you as you were helpless back then and he got you fucked up real good. Sad story, your life doesn't look like it was pretty, you're fighting way too many daemons.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 02, 2020, 11:30:13 PM
"2. Blid has no idea what i did with lance, so wherever his code is from, it's not from lances server (at least i did not give it to him, and no one at the time had access). I actually spoke very little with Blid directly. Only people that spoke to me directly were Jordan, ~iL, foonat and i believe ~iL had a coder/friend on his team. That's it. thought i spoke to you as well but i might be delusional on that part"- picka

Ok so you/jordan/blid are best friends that play FFAs all the time together but you never speak directly to blid. Bullshit. You are Jordan the guy who stole the ladder for Blid to pretend he made.

How all of a sudden do you remember these "convos" that you had no recollection of a few days ago. Your lies are getting harder and harder to keep covering.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: baRa on July 03, 2020, 12:28:39 AM
Yo dudes all i did was ask about the ladder. You dont all need to hijack every thread out there.

Make 1 master hall of shame thread and post whatever you want in there about eachother all you want.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: woofy on July 03, 2020, 02:03:53 AM
Agreed.  @Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) what would it take to get the ladder up and running? Do you still have code?
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: ~ToRa~ on July 03, 2020, 05:14:38 AM
Yo dudes all i did was ask about the ladder. You dont all need to hijack every thread out there.

Make 1 master hall of shame thread and post whatever you want in there about eachother all you want.


Yeah that is kinda true, if this becomes the norm I will need to start moving Xurnts posts.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: (PLS DELETE MY ACC) on July 03, 2020, 06:34:30 AM
Yo dudes all i did was ask about the ladder. You dont all need to hijack every thread out there.

Make 1 master hall of shame thread and post whatever you want in there about eachother all you want.


Yeah that is kinda true, if this becomes the norm I will need to start moving Xurnts posts.

XURNTS, TUPACS, EQS...
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: O4L on July 03, 2020, 06:43:10 AM
Get off your high horse Tora. You are starting to power trip worst than Blid. Looks like you are still his puppet.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Knitter on July 03, 2020, 08:58:07 AM
@baRa , see what you just started  :rofl:
For justice lets ban Bara for 2 weeks, lets see if he ever starts another fight.  :salty:

No seriously stop spamming all threads like that.

Get your own chatroom on tinder or twitter and leave us alone.

Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Knitter on July 03, 2020, 09:00:54 AM
Ahh, i forgot what i really wanted to say  ::)

2v2 ladder would be pretty cool, if it would be running again!
Thanks @baRa!
And thanks to @woofy  and my mom!

Cya
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Delete mine too on July 03, 2020, 09:51:17 AM
Pika (Jordan) stole the code from Lance and Blid just takes credit for it. He has no idea how to fix something without breaking it more.
I have the ru ladder in full code. This shit is trash, sqli all over that thing I highly doubt lance coded it. Blid sent me a copy like 5 years ago. If this is Lance's code he should be banned for life. Figured I'd add that in.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: baRa on July 03, 2020, 10:02:45 AM
I was gone from 2012 to 2019 so i dont really know all the details and drama that occured during those times. Like the server split and all the hacking eachother stuff. But why cant we all just get along? We have some smart dudes around here like lambchops and tupac and lance etc. If we could all just work together for the betterness of war2 i think it can benefit us.

Like i mentioned previously, im not tech friendly at all but im willing to help in some capacity to make things easier. I think if we break up the responsibilities and tasks to a few people it could go smoother. An example would be have 1 person who is responsible for setting up tournies, have 1 for overseeing the ladder, another for ss site etc. That way 1 or 2 people arent overwhelmed having to do everything.

Just my 2 cents
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: picka_materina on July 03, 2020, 12:30:08 PM
Ok so you/jordan/blid are best friends that play FFAs all the time together but you never speak directly to blid.
Yep. Cause of my doings i kept a low profile. I connected with Jordan because we had similar interest and he was starting security at the time. Talked to you for obvious reason. And to il/ldir cause of obvious reasons. There was no need to connect to blid.
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How all of a sudden do you remember these "convos" that you had no recollection of a few days ago.
Because i did not think about war2 for like 10 years, and the more i read about things the more things start to come back. If you started using your brain you'd also remember things we talked about. Im sure if i keep at it i'll remember whose ladder code lance used for his ladder also.
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 04, 2020, 08:16:02 AM
Agreed.  @Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) what would it take to get the ladder up and running? Do you still have code?

I did answer the 2s ladder question here:
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5828.msg91482.html#msg91482 (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5828.msg91482.html#msg91482)

Although if someone wants to fix it they can go for it!
Title: Re: Ladder
Post by: Harrywangs on July 08, 2020, 04:54:57 PM
This is a very good point. Do you have some sort of alert when your name is mentioned? :)


I do think Pika a smurf. Guy doesn’t play or show his face on the forums at all.

Then randomly when he is mentioning is suddenly posting like crazy like he is following the forum without ever logging in.


I load the forum last few days since you guys like talking about me. You're either all so bored, or heavily under influence as you're reading way too much into normal things.