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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Nox on March 30, 2015, 05:05:03 PM
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Wow mousetopher!
It's look like you do an amazing job with the website!
Im proud of you!
Do you see how you can be really usefull when you put your abilitys on the good things?
Why do you want to ban peoples and get hate when you can be more useful and doing great thing like this!
Can you do a new desing for the forum now, because i dont know how much times my eyes gonna stand this white forum. Please, thank you!
ps: i think you should use the same background of the website, the beige one, it gonna fit perfectly with the forum.
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Very nice job.
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still says its down for me, but I am excited. The old design was already very good.
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still says its down for me, but I am excited. The old design was already very good.
It was up for a few minutes. The mousey is up to something again [emoji39] Feels like Christmas [emoji318] [emoji318] [emoji318] !
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she gonna put the old one to make us mad!
It's a joke moustopher, dont panic, lol
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what was different about it?
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(http://i58.tinypic.com/k2z23m.jpg)
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([url]http://i58.tinypic.com/k2z23m.jpg[/url])
Lol your costumes that you use to lure unexpecting children, you pedo?
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Actually i pretty like that too, it show how we are good trolls.
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Same site, just made some significant updates. Live now, everyone go fawn.
Can you do a new desing for the forum now, because i dont know how much times my eyes gonna stand this white forum. Please, thank you!
Forum redesign just isn't a priority I'm afraid, it'd be a ton of work on its own + the fact it's a platform I'm unfamiliar with theming. It's also fundamentally eye candy, offering no substantial benefits or improvement. And, when the new forum was started the general consensus was that a simple, plain theme was preferred to a heavily customized one.
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Same site, just made some significant updates. Live now, everyone go fawn.
Can you do a new desing for the forum now, because i dont know how much times my eyes gonna stand this white forum. Please, thank you!
Forum redesign just isn't a priority I'm afraid, it'd be a ton of work on its own + the fact it's a platform I'm unfamiliar with theming. It's also fundamentally eye candy, offering no substantial benefits or improvement. And, when the new forum was started the general consensus was that a simple, plain theme was preferred to a heavily customized one.
It took 2 minutes to change the background.
You can allow different options design, put your beige backround as second options, peoples gonna have choices.
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some quick feedback on the site, looks good, under the "last server in the world" there are some icons and links. i think you should make the icons clickable because my first instinct is to click them. the hosting bot one could be clickable too, taking people to a page with instructions on how the hosting bot works. all of them could be clicked. also, the "community forum" link is to the ladder instead of the forum.
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Fixed, thanks. And yeah, iL thought they should be clickable too. The entire icon section is still kind of up in the air; I may make them clickable, or restyle them to look less like buttons, or remove them entirely. The original idea behind them was to be purely informational since you don't want to redirect new visitors to all these satellite sites right off the bat, so it's just give them an overview and incentive to click the buttons leading to the war2combat download.
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I like the new site, much more functional than the old one. Did you decide to take out the users online on the side or will this be coming back? I think this is important for new people coming to the site to see that the game is active. Even just something simple like Users Online, don't think listing all the players is necessary.
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Users Online button that could take you to the server.war2.ru/status page would be pretty cool
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I like the new site, much more functional than the old one. Did you decide to take out the users online on the side or will this be coming back? I think this is important for new people coming to the site to see that the game is active. Even just something simple like Users Online, don't think listing all the players is necessary.
It still exists on the inner pages that have a sidebar. I agree it's important to have on the homepage, just haven't figured out where to work it into the new layout. Maybe in the nav menu with the number of online users like you said, and the option of showing the full list on click.
Users Online button that could take you to the server.war2.ru/status page would be pretty cool
Oh yeah, I was thinking of that as well. Maybe embed that directly into a page of the site and link it from one of the menus? Not sure yet.
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"Maybe in the nav menu with the number of online users like you said, and the option of showing the full list on click. "
That should suffice.
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This is looking great! Glad to see the war2 tv you were talking about. That feature has a ton of potential for new players on the server! Great time to be a warcraft 2 player.
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Good work keep it up!!
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This new site is great!
Simple minimalist design, should be especially perfect for some socials and tablet devices.
And yeah, iL thought they should be clickable too. The entire icon section is still kind of up in the air; I may make them clickable, or restyle them to look less like buttons, or remove them entirely.
I think you should do something with that as soon as 2 people have the same feeling about clickable.
It makes people sad when they have instinct to click something and see it's not clickable.
Especially as the next page contains the same design for clickable buttons.
Also, maybe to show more than 8 recent forum posts, how do you think?
Also agree that users online should be added somewhere.
I think i need to redesign that advenced status page to make it narrow, any offers about that?
It's up to you, mousey, since you're the main with design things.
It took 2 minutes to change the background.
As i understand, that should be some kind of correlation between different colors onpage. You can't just change one of the colors, otherwise the page will loss expressiveness or something like that...
You always have to keep some kind of correspondence between colors...
I'm not a designer, maybe mousey can explain that better than me.
But me can change the forum theme to something else...
Forum redesign just isn't a priority I'm afraid, it'd be a ton of work on its own + the fact it's a platform I'm unfamiliar with theming. It's also fundamentally eye candy, offering no substantial benefits or improvement. And, when the new forum was started the general consensus was that a simple, plain theme was preferred to a heavily customized one.
I think we don't need some custom design, but we can easily find some different theme for smf.
The main problem is compatibility with some cutomization we use for the forum.
And another problem is "we fear changes", as mousey said and i agree with her.
This forum looks as similar as possible to warcraft occult, some people like that design, some - want to see the new one.
I think could be a good idea to make a poll about redesign the forum?
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a poll with different themes&screenshots would be gooder than a general "do you fear changes". In the latter only blid would vote yes
so like:
'yo punk witch them u want: 1 2 3 4 5'
and in the first post there would be screenies of theme samples (1 being default - current)
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I will take a pool yes, occult was a dead forum and we was not used it so much compare to here.
The probleme is how the difference is too big between color forum and color game.
When you are on the client, almost everything is dark, when you came to forum everything is bright.
So when your alt tabbing between game and forum it's became really bad, difference is to high and will be dangerous after a couple of months, if you dont believe me ask an expert about eyes.
We cant do this with our eyes over and over, thats pretty bad for eyes healty.
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I think you should do something with that as soon as 2 people have the same feeling about clickable.It makes people sad when they have instinct to click something and see it's not clickable.Especially as the next page contains the same design for clickable buttons.
Ah, you're absolutely right on that last point. Okay, I'll mess with it. They're probably going away unfortunately since I just can't justify a huge prominent section of links in the middle of the page, directing people away from the desired action. Unless anyone can give feedback on a similar layout that looks less button-y? e.g.
http://i.imgur.com/XBnSdNP.png (http://i.imgur.com/XBnSdNP.png)
http://i.imgur.com/joqNkl6.png (http://i.imgur.com/joqNkl6.png)
http://i.imgur.com/0GDDje1.png (http://i.imgur.com/0GDDje1.png)
http://i.imgur.com/zv9VX0m.png (http://i.imgur.com/zv9VX0m.png)
http://i.imgur.com/raZQiQZ.png (http://i.imgur.com/raZQiQZ.png)
http://i.imgur.com/88J98ZN.png (http://i.imgur.com/88J98ZN.png)
(None of those are clickable.) I see this style of icon + text blurb often in modern design and personally don't usually interpret them as being buttons. Maybe it's a generational difference in perception? :P
I think we don't need some custom design, but we can easily find some different theme for smf.The main problem is compatibility with some cutomization we use for the forum.And another problem is "we fear changes", as mousey said and i agree with her.This forum looks as similar as possible to warcraft occult, some people like that design, some - want to see the new one.I think could be a good idea to make a poll about redesign the forum?
Could even let people go search themes and submit any free, compatible ones they'd like added, then have a vote on which one to add. I still don't think it's a priority atm, but if you want to oversee & implement the idea then by all means.
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(None of those are clickable.) I see this style of icon + text blurb often in modern design and personally don't usually interpret them as being buttons. Maybe it's a generational difference in perception? :P
Definitely it is, sometimes i see am an old dinosaur in all these new trends...
I also tried to click such "buttons" on some big sites, and that maked me sad that they are not clickable.
But this round "buttons" looks like a good place to touch it by finger on touchscreen...
Could even let people go search themes and submit any free, compatible ones they'd like added, then have a vote on which one to add. I still don't think it's a priority atm, but if you want to oversee & implement the idea then by all means.
I don't think we should spend much our (your) forces and time for that, just 5 min to install all the required themes and to add theme switcher somewhere.
Maybe also need to add "that guy" and link to server.war2.ru in each header. More 10-15 min for each theme...
Not sure about some possible problems, like we need to reinstall mods and languages for each theme. Need to check that.
Then we even don't need any polls, just to add other themes and keep this one by default.
Everybody can select any theme he wants.
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Well that was my point, task the users who want different themes with going out & researching/finding suitable themes + take a vote on which ONE theme to install = less repetitive work for us. We have very few forum members, and even fewer who have expressed an interest in alternate forum themes, I just don't see the value of us going to the trouble of finding & installing multiple themes, modding each of those themes for compatibility, and having to sync all future mods to all those themes just to give a handful of people the illusion of meaningless choice. One light theme + one dark theme seems practical & reasonable.
Hell, maybe make it even simpler and just pick a dark version of Curve?
http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2033 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2033)
http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2065 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2065)
https://userstyles.org/styles/55513/smf-curve-dark (https://userstyles.org/styles/55513/smf-curve-dark)
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Something like this but war2 theme would be awesome, I think this is what EQ has in mind.
(http://awsimgcache.swgf.co.uk/styles/746.jpg)
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Not arguing that it wouldn't be cool, but huge amounts of time & work for pure eye candy. If anyone has the time and wants to do it, or wants to fork over some cash to hire a SMF theme designer, then feel free!
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Ah, you're absolutely right on that last point. Okay, I'll mess with it. They're probably going away unfortunately since I just can't justify a huge prominent section of links in the middle of the page, directing people away from the desired action.
Can you elaborate on this? I don't really get it since three of the icons already have clickable links below (ladder, forum, ss) and secondly, it's only the middle of the page as in it's like halfway down the page when you're scrolling. So it's like, when i first open the page, I see the youtube video, download link, etc. Scroll down and i get to the rotating screenshot and the server description. scroll down more and then we're at what you might call the third "bucket" (or bottom half of second bucket) and THEN you're at the icons. I think at that point in the page, you've already seen the big hit items and you may want to now look at details, see how some of this stuff works. so i think links there wouldnt be bad design at all. just mo.
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Not arguing that it wouldn't be cool, but huge amounts of time & work for pure eye candy. If anyone has the time and wants to do it, or wants to fork over some cash to hire a SMF theme designer, then feel free!
Actually i dont only want necessairly something like this, it will be crazy but, anyway, the beige background of the original website is perfect, you dint have to work you just have to put the one you already created on the website as background here.
sample template just new background.
Same color as russian background forum or ganz exemple.
Took 2 minutes.
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Mouse is right, you want people to download the client, not look at some ladder page or something and get lost. There are links in the menu for people who want more details.
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Mouse is right, you want people to download the client, not look at some ladder page or something and get lost. There are links in the menu for people who want more details.
that's what im asking about though, those items are like halfway down the page, way below the header. the "download now" bit is still the first thing that greets you and on my resolution takes up my entire page pretty much when i load it. so i dont see the problem with links way down there. heck id say according to the argument youre making, we should remove the menu links at the top, wouldnt those be more likely to distract visitors? not that i want those removed either, i just dgi
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Mouse is right, you want people to download the client, not look at some ladder page or something and get lost. There are links in the menu for people who want more details.
that's what im asking about though, those items are like halfway down the page, way below the header. the "download now" bit is still the first thing that greets you and on my resolution takes up my entire page pretty much when i load it. so i dont see the problem with links way down there. heck id say according to the argument youre making, we should remove the menu links at the top, wouldnt those be more likely to distract visitors? not that i want those removed either, i just dgi
there is a big problem, you obviously know nothing about internet marketing or making sales pages.
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Hmm, okay, it's helpful to get user feedback like that. My reasoning is that the home page's primary function is to show new visitor's what the site has to offer -- if they're specifically looking for a WC2 download they have the immediate above-fold "Download Now" button. If they want to find out more about the site they scroll down, read about the server, see screenshots, see all the blurbs with the game/community features. After reading through that they hopefully become reassured that the site's legit and are interested in joining, so when they see the second button ("Getting Started") they're ready to proceed.
Directing a new visitor to supplemental things like screenshot uploads, bot info, etc. seems pointless because they don't have the game yet so they can't really use them, and it creates more choices for them to make, decreasing the odds they'll make the one we want them to (downloading the client & playing on the server). Plus, I don't see repeat visitors scrolling through several sections of content to get to those links when they're all available in the menu at the top of the page.
Could shift the second button up below the server description though, so we get that second CTA in before giving them the additional options to browse, and then try to tie each of those pages back to the download page with a "Click here to download war2combat" button or something.
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Directing a new visitor to supplemental things like screenshot uploads, bot info, etc. seems pointless because they don't have the game yet so they can't really use them, and it creates more choices for them to make, decreasing the odds they'll make the one we want them to (downloading the client & playing on the server). Plus, I don't see repeat visitors scrolling through several sections of content to get to those links when they're all available in the menu at the top of the page.
Exactly, Its fine just listing the features, don't make any links. This is not necessary, a new person is there to download the game he doesn't care about seeing a ladder, or reading about how to use the hosting bot, clicking on these other links instead will lose some people and result in less downloads. Once they download the game they can find these things out later on the site or by using the menus on the top if they want to know more.
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Replace the youtube video at the top with this
(http://i.imgur.com/cgK9HPa.jpg)
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Replace the youtube video at the top with this
([url]http://i.imgur.com/cgK9HPa.jpg[/url])
Or after video stops, switch to that icon for download.
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mouse the buttons are perfect, dont delete, make em clickable. ;)
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dont put dark template on forum plz.
light is good.
its a forum
usafeature tried to do an eyecandy forum for war2custom and it was all laggy and slow. (me running with an intel core i7 cpu and an nvidia 480gtx)
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dont put dark template on forum plz.
light is good.
its a forum
usafeature tried to do an eyecandy forum for war2custom and it was all laggy and slow. (me running with an intel core i7 cpu and an nvidia 480gtx)
because one theme was slow does not mean all themes are slow. thats retard logic. plus computer has nothing to do with how fast it loads, its your internet
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Someone definitly dont understand independant user can have different choices.
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The theme is perfect. The forum owner chooses his preference on default. As to other templates, his/her call also.
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dont put dark template on forum plz.
light is good.
its a forum
Makes sence, that's why i talked about poll.
To change the forum theme to something more similar to war2 and site or keep as is?
Just 2 options.
If we have 15/3 for "to change" we should obviously do it.
If we have 4/15 for "as is" we do nothing.
If we have something like "2/3" or w/e that means nodoby cares and we still do nothing.
Polls is a good tool to know the majority wishes when we are not sure of have different opinions.
Reasonable democracy is a great thing.
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Just leave the current template as it is and add some templates that user can select. It is really simple.
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It would be interesting in a week or two to see the download statastics of the client to compare the new website with the old one to see if it generates more downloads than before.
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How to find articles had been located on the main page before?
Screenshot Policy, port forwarding manual, etc?
I can follow support - tutorials and see several articles with state "Coming soon!".
Would be good to structure all the existing useful content and place it to both top and bottom menus.
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It's slated. Support section's going to be restructured to feature all of that with a more logical & easy to use layout. Lot of stuff to do still, it just takes time.
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Also like the new website. Just 1 thing, I miss the "server status" with online players/games. I used that alot, for example when watching boring TV-shows, i could easy from my cell phone checke if there was great games and funny players online and if, i logged on.
Now I have to go away from the couch all the way to the PC for checking. And that means my gf are able to dominate the TV.
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It's still on the site, just not on the homepage, but I agree it should be & and am planning on bringing it back as soon as I figure out the best way to fit it in. Probably with some sort of small user icon + the number of people online that shows the full list when you click on it.
Also nice to hear that people are benefiting from the mobile version of the site. :)
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It's still on the site, just not on the homepage, but I agree it should be & and am planning on bringing it back as soon as I figure out the best way to fit it in. Probably with some sort of small user icon + the number of people online that shows the full list when you click on it.
Also nice to hear that people are benefiting from the mobile version of the site. :)
Not sure if you have tried hosting a webbot to show user activity live online, includes channel chat.
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Haven't tried, but plan on looking into it at some point.
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Haven't tried, but plan on looking into it at some point.
Good feature, BNU is a good if you come around to it.
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yes I told her before about the webbots get er done!!!
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I like the overlay menu when you scrolldown on the site, pretty sexy.