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Server.War2.ru / Re: There was a time...
« on: October 07, 2015, 07:49:14 AM »
I didn't come here to "attack ef", just like your debate on PBall if it was Warcraft 2 or not, I thought that was equally ridiculous. Just like that, this isn't an attack on ef but something as I stated is my opinion, I wanted discussion about it. I am not alone in believing slowing RTS games down alters the game play but not because of skill, do a google search of game forums many people hold the same view. Also you are talking about speeding Warcraft 2 or games up with MODS beyond what is normal for the game. Playing on fastest which is included in the game is a totally different thing than modding something to speed it way up. Also to answer your question Blid why don't people speed games way up for skill and challenge? There are people who mod different games to make them hyper fast, then play and beat them as a challenge. Lance to say Blizzard included fastest in Bnet edition but never meant it for competitive play is kind of silly. It wasn't meant for ladder play but it was included in multiplayer and there is no where I know of where Blizzard said do not play multiplayer Fastest games competitively(as people did and still do anyway). Unit control not taking into account building is definitely harder on fastest and would take more skill. Look at early RTS games like Total Annihilation, Lords Of The Realm 2, Age Of Empires those games were played on fastest by most players. Also many people don't want to extend a game that might take a long time on fastest anyway. You can build the same buildings and create the same units on fastest you just have to be quicker reacting... I'm not bashing EF and I don't care what people play F or EF but to me more time for both players to plan just means you are given more of a chance and makes it easier to control units. It seems more a personal preference to play on EF rather than a thing that measures your skill in my opinion. It is for sure though that there other RTS games where players do not slow down the games.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: There was a time...
« on: October 06, 2015, 10:07:35 PM »
Lol yes I have played Starcraft back in the day I own it and brood war somewhere. Starcraft 1 on fastest speed is not as slow as EF... There are many RTS games where slowing the speed down would be unheard of.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: There was a time...
« on: October 06, 2015, 09:20:38 PM »
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/6246865293

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft_version_history
^"Patch 1.12

New Features

    Changed Speed from "Fast" to Fastest" for Ladder Games. "

Starcraft 1 and 2 ladder games are played on fastest. There are 100's of RTS games over the years, how can you make such a claim that every one is never played on fastest(there are many that are)? When I just provided links that 2 blizzard games are played on fastest lol.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: There was a time...
« on: October 06, 2015, 08:50:42 PM »
Warcraft 3 is played on fastest speed, Age Of Empires 2 is played on fastest generally. Besides Warcraft 2 and Starcraft there aren't many games where people choose to slow the game down, like I'm saying its known to make it easier. It can make it a better game because both people have more time to plan strategies and execute them, and it makes microing units easier. Still don't see your point, other than you have more time time to plan strategies.

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Wtf is this spam ^ ? Someone delete this crap? Go ask your question in general discussion SherylasKit if it isn't just total spam anyway like I suspect.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: There was a time...
« on: October 06, 2015, 07:49:34 PM »
That's my point though it changes the game play so that more people are able to play well. Also not being able to grab peons I mentioned in my first post I said besides that being an issue now. It can also alter strategies like you're mentioning. With a limited community I can see how it would make for better games, but if there were top BNE players prevalent on the server would it be necessary to slow it down in order to make good games? Being able to control your units correctly, and execute strategies in less time seems like a no brainer that would take more skill to me. Note: Humans are usually better on sea build maps on any speed often from what I understand because of invisibility and polymorph and that lust is harder to pull off island to island.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: There was a time...
« on: October 06, 2015, 07:36:11 PM »
Yes more time, but does that equal more skill? Being able to make quick decisions and micro your units on the fastest speed, also to come up with those strategies in the same time you could on ef is what makes it harder. That's my point you could slow down any game, take Super Mario Brothers 3 on NES, it would just make it much easier to not get hit by enemies. Take any Call Of Duty game, it would just be silly as you could easily shoot the other people. Slowing it down by playing ef or slower makes it easier for many people because they have time to plan strategies and its easier to micro units, but there are people who could play he same strategies and execute their units the same on fastest.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: There was a time...
« on: October 06, 2015, 04:41:26 PM »
Honestly playing on a slower speed because it "supposedly" takes more skill has always been one of the stupidest claims I've ever heard. Apart from lat not allowing grabbing peons properly you speed anything up its going to be harder not easier. IF you slow something down you have more time to react, more time to think, and more time to plan. In my opinion people play EF and slower speeds because they are better when stuff is slowed down not because it takes more skill at all. Speed anything up outside of Warcraft 2 up and see if it makes it easier, you'll find slowing things down makes it easier not the other way around. Other than that cool post new strategies and the old days of Warcraft were great I agree, I just don't agree with the crap EF and slower speed(though I realize there's lat issues now).

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Mods & Development / Re: GameBot source code
« on: October 06, 2015, 04:47:25 AM »
Nobody probably got the reference in little the story I told about me and Blid haha. It is from an old classic country song by Tom T Hall - Faster Horses(The Cowboy and the Poet). I just took the lyrics and put a Warcraft 2 and PBall spin on it lol.

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Also thought I'd add the guy who is donating $100 is a guy by the name of Daisycutter. I've played with him a few times on the server but happened to find him through a group conversation started by Burnt years ago about a PBall tournament during a summer festival. He is a very nice guy Daisycutter and even though he's not a huge PBaller wants a fun event for everyone and to donate $100 to this tournament. With the other donations this should be a very big prize pool $200 plus, should be very fun!

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Blid there will be a December tournament for cash, that much is for sure. I just happened to find a guy who wants to donate $100 to a PBall tournament all at once. It was a rare find and this guy wants to make it one big event. The other donators, ~Tora, QUICK{hR}, Crash3r, Xcal, me are all more regular donators. It just happened this way that this tournament will be a big one, and 45 Man PBall is one of the MOST SKILLED PBall maps. So we will have a cash tournament in December we're just lucky enough to have a big donator for this one and have a fun ass tournament with a big prize pool.

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Tora if you do the chop tournament with Zeus aka DarkMaster you are right you will be doing the vast majority of the work. No offense to the guy I like him but he doesn't even speak good enough English to get the word out or communicate during the tournament with the competitors. It's a cool idea to have chop tournaments, Claw has done some in the past. I just don't think Zeus realizes the work and time that goes into making a successful event or the stress involved in creating the brackets and dealing with idling and getting people to play. Chop tournaments are definitely a great idea but yes you will do most of the work unless you get other chop players involved who speak more fluent English and want to commit.

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I don't make the final decision here but this is how I saw the PBall Trophy Icon working. The winner of the tournament would get the PB Trophy Icon to show they won a PBall tournament. They would keep the icon like a profi or sware tag because they won that tournament. The master icon is more prestigious if you ask me, someone sees MASTER they know that means they are good right away. Player's World Champion 2015 icon is obvious what it means and no one else could have that title as well. They see a trophy with PB they think oh a good PBaller or they won a tournament. I planned on adding a different icon after 4-5 tournaments and the PB Trophy winners would keep theirs(this way the server doesn't get overpopulated with 1 icon even though the ones who have it will probably win other tournaments) and a new one would be added similar but different.

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Lol that wasn't how this worked it's been mentioned in previous posts. The master tag has different mechanics how it works. I planned on retiring the PBall Trophy Icon after a set amount of tournaments and adding a new one. The first two that were awarded to me and QUICK{hR} and those were our only prize in the tournament no money, it's just meant to show a tournament win not change hands for the champion of the current one.

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The $100 is being donated by a guy who wanted to do $100 all in one tournament. Also Tora and I donate to every tournament I host so that donations not going away. Crash3r donated to the last and is going to in the this one so he seems pretty reliable too. The people that are donating to my tournaments are going to continue to for the most part all except maybe the $100 guy but we'll see with that. So a bigger prize for this one is just more fun as more tournaments will be coming later anyway.

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