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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: tora is a simp bitch for billionaires on August 04, 2016, 10:44:38 AM
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what's the max amount of industrial complexes i should have (communist)?
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PS Aug 4, 17:16 misanthropic rage (#98) Gary Johnson 2016 (#58) 360 A
should be pwned out of the game for that name
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the max amount? i dont know maybe 30,000 lol
the bigger you get the more you can produce. only reason to stop growing is that the end of the round is approaching and there's not enough turns remaining for new buildings to pay off what you spent to make them (between attack losses, oil, + building cost)
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ok. there is no max.
Attack Time Attacker Defender Losses
PS Aug 4, 17:16 misanthropic rage (#98) Gary Johnson 2016 (#58) 360 A
SS Aug 4, 18:50 misanthropic rage (#98) Captain Bill Redbeard (#105) 244 A
SS Aug 4, 19:54 misanthropic rage (#98) Balbaar (#87) 211 A
SS Aug 4, 20:01 misanthropic rage (#98) Zuth (#97) 218 A
SS Aug 4, 20:16 misanthropic rage (#98) Greste Dak Rythorn (#55) 310 A
SS Aug 4, 20:20 misanthropic rage (#98) Kelar (#21) 335 A
SS Aug 4, 20:30 misanthropic rage (#98) Caraxes (#77) 352 A
SS Aug 4, 21:46 misanthropic rage (#98) Devilish Medea (#90) 282 A
SS Aug 4, 21:48 misanthropic rage (#98) GDI Salesmans Apprentice (#102) 276 A
SS Aug 4, 22:01 misanthropic rage (#98) El Mariachi (#83) DH
PS Aug 4, 22:24 misanthropic rage (#98) Picasso (#12) 626 A
PS Aug 5, 00:26 misanthropic rage (#98) EG (#31) 651 A
SS Aug 5, 01:21 El Mariachi (#83) misanthropic rage (#98) DH
PS Aug 5, 02:49 misanthropic rage (#98) OneNationUnderPauline (#15) 689 A
lol owned
i attacked el mariachi with less than 100% readiness, piece of fucking shit
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just make sure you sell mass amounts of turrets/jets so you can keep your indy tech above 130%
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i tried to get free GDI with my 16 bonus points but it wouldn't let me
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i'm messing around with a theocracy government, i'm building only enterprise zones, residences, and industrial complexes. and buying tech, bushels, etc. is it a newb strat?
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theos can cash, but then you wont need many indies, just enough for spies.
lol i was having a legend tier start to this set, then some dumb idiot attacked me a bunch. that theo called "chem"
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looks like we should ally
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no alliances in this server. also the dude has a lot of land but right now hes too much of a dumbass for me to bother with, maybe in a day or two if he's not totally destroyed by someone else i can take my land back
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maybe i'll own him
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Military Forces
Spies 129,484
Troops 50,706
Jets 719,109
Turrets 956,284
Tanks 11,817
Nuclear Missiles 0
Chemical Missiles 0
Cruise Missiles 0
Defensive Bonus 0%
hmm too strong
Enterprise Zones 4080
Residences 2514
Industrial Complexes 1373
Military Bases 429
Research Labs 774
Farms 1591
Oil Rigs 928
Construction Sites 80
Unused Lands 0
lawl
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hes a scrub, no tech and shitty mix of buildings. only problem is that is a lot of turrets and jets and theres so many "bot" countries for me to farm that i dont feel like taking my retal yet (retal is when you hit back someone who hit you. people generally respect that and move on.) since this clown hit me 5x ill want to hit him back a few times but that will break gdi and open me up for war, and since hes a moron he'll definitely want to hit me back more if he can. but i wont be around this weekend anyway so i guess ill risk it. ill hit him 3 times probably... each will be a PS, ill get about 5000 land off him, and then see if he brings the war
here's my god country
http://www.eestats.com/express/country/107 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/107)
attacks take 3 turns as a demo, and as a techer, those are turns where im not teching anything and thus making no income. so i have to be a badass at grabbing efficiently, which i am. 16 total attacks made, 6100 land gained not counting ghost acres. if you check the top ten list:
http://www.eestats.com/express/toptencountries (http://www.eestats.com/express/toptencountries)
that puts me #1 on the server for land grabbed by a wide margin.
country land grabbed
Baron in the Trees (#107) 6100
echelon (#106) 4703
chem (#112) 4623
aikito (#31) 4531
Ratski (#19) 4067
the Temple (#117) 3343
Spider Web (#5) 2600
Ace in the Whole (#111) 2594
TheLynxArmy (#12) 2513
be the best (#33) 2053
lol im so freaking good :/
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i just got a bunch of farms from a battle, should i destroy those ?
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yep keep clearing em out
for example as a techer this is what my country looks like
Land Distribution
Enterprise Zones 0
Residences 0
Industrial Complexes 714
Military Bases 0
Research Labs 8496
Farms 0
Oil Rigs 0
Construction Sites 220
Unused Lands 18
no chafe. (some indies necessary as it's the only way to get spies. ill destroy them when i have enough)
your country should be like 3000 enterprise zones, 2800 residences, 0 0 0 0 0 0 500 indies 0 0 0 0
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Message from chem (#112) sent on Aug 11, 21:05
Did you end up getting through?
lol
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instead i have more industrial complexes than residences.
Enterprise Zones: 2862
Residences: 1520
Industrial Complexes: 2127
btw are u saying I should stop at 3000 Enterprise Zones and 2000 residences?
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tear down 1500 industries and put them into ent/res. never stop making ent/res and growing until the reset is almost over. i simply was giving a rough number based on how much land i was guessing you had, and showing the proportions to you. 5% industries, some c-sites, and the remaining 95% or so 50% in ent and 45% in res
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2.3 mins ago
An Evil Nicaraguan (#122) attempted to spy on your country! You killed 368 enemy spies.
2.6 mins ago
An Evil Nicaraguan (#122) attempted to spy on your country! You killed 374 enemy spies.
2.8 mins ago
An Evil Nicaraguan (#122) attempted to spy on your country! You killed 380 enemy spies.
why is some top 10 bitch spying on me? i wonder if he's in cahoots with chem
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tear down 1500 industries and put them into ent/res. never stop making ent/res and growing until the reset is almost over. i simply was giving a rough number based on how much land i was guessing you had, and showing the proportions to you. 5% industries, some c-sites, and the remaining 95% or so 50% in ent and 45% in res
what about tech
do i buy my military instead?
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buy armies on the market
buy tech on the market, specifically bus tech and res tech, keep them over 160% all the time and get them up to 179% at the end of the set (and i would recommend, in the future, starting with all labs to put down a groundwork of tech before switching the labs out to ent/res, it's a little trickier playing a casher this way but tech is so expensive...)
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buy armies on the market
buy tech on the market, specifically bus tech and res tech, keep them over 160% all the time and get them up to 179% at the end of the set (and i would recommend, in the future, starting with all labs to put down a groundwork of tech before switching the labs out to ent/res, it's a little trickier playing a casher this way but tech is so expensive...)
lol i never got my tech that high ever, never could get the money. i read there's a lower max on tech with theocracy too.
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it's annoying. i go to buy my military but there's not enough of what i want on the private market, they're available on the public market but the price is a lot higher.
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oh yeah that doesn't apply to theocracy, i was thinking republic. for a theocracy it's much lower, you can skimp on it a bit more. it has the built in residential bonus (50%?) to make up for it, and the cheap private market for the destock
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http://www.eestats.com/express/country/21 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/21)
this is me btw, looks like i own
u haven't hit Chem yet?
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You hitting Chem in Earth Empires will be more exciting than the Spain vs Nigeria basketball game going on right now and probably have a bigger audience too
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ive been beating on the newbies who attacked me a bit
2016-08-12 16:28:23 PS Baron in the Trees (#107) Ratski (#19) 255A (319A)
2016-08-12 14:16:41 PS Baron in the Trees (#107) chem (#112) 533A (833A)
2016-08-12 14:16:15 PS Baron in the Trees (#107) chem (#112) 655A (1079A)
2016-08-12 11:27:19 PS Baron in the Trees (#107) Ratski (#19) 698A (1128A)
2016-08-12 03:52:07 PS Baron in the Trees (#107) chem (#112) 1467A (2073A)
but my finish is already bonked cuz of those clowns even if they dont fire back
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lol u destroyed ratski
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i spied on you.. how the fuck do you have all that tech and a billion dollars?
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Im the best player of all time, I told you lol. Thats with getting in that dumb war and being hit by those newbies and not logging in Saturday to sell tech too
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are you researching most of that tech or buying it? I noticed researching a lot of tech takes up a fuckload of turns..
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It's like everything. Either you're a techer, in which case you're almost 100% labs. In that case you make your own tech and sell it too. Or you're not a techer, in which case you never spend turns teching and only buy it.
There's one slight twist here, and that's called the "tech start." The tech start is when you plan to be a commie with all industries, or a casher with all cash buildings, and you lay some tech groundwork for that early in the round. For example, you'd make your first 1900 buildings 100% labs, then research 50,000 points of indy tech, and then you knock down all the labs and build your industries.
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i don't know how to play this game, i used up 1000 turns just cashing last round.
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you can spend turns cashing if youre a casher... all enterprise/residences. then it's fine, although most turns shoudl be spent attacking/building if possible up until near the end
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i was making a lot of money, like 3 million a turn when i cashed. but i constantly had to buy bushels, military and oil and barely had enough for tech.
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You should always have to buy bushels unless you're a farmer
Have to buy armies unless you're a commie
Have to buy tech unless you're a techer
and so on
never try to make anything yourself unless that's the thing you're specializing in
Oh yeah though commies can spend turns cashing too at the end. Like when there's no more attacking or building to do and it's too late for exploring
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lol @ this warfare tech. i already got 7 chemical missiles and 2 cruise missiles because of it.
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are you a techer?
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yea democracy government
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if i make my country name "death to capitalism" do you think a lot of stupid reactionaries would attack ?
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You can see some of the teams that already signed up on express with the eestats website and some idiot is calling him "USA OWNED OLYMPICS AGAIN", i'll kill this guy for sure.
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if i make my country name "death to capitalism" do you think a lot of stupid reactionaries would attack ?
probably not. i used to name a country cuba, one time i was called DPRK, but i get suicided on when i name myself Qfwfq
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http://earthempires.com/express/351/ranks/26 (http://earthempires.com/express/351/ranks/26)
wtf why was half your land empty
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i didn't have money to fill out my land
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yikes
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that's a problem i've run into consistently, the lack of money. i'm not selling often enough or something.
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probably was all that time spent with mixed buildings and other goofing around instead of producing tech dolla money $$$. since last set was the most expensive tech set ever, the market isnt gonna get more favorable
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is this you?
http://www.eestats.com/express/country/43 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/43)
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no. i'm temple of the dog. i've already switched my government cause i don't know how to play communism, can't make any money. fuck this game.
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Hm i thought you've played decent commie countries before. youre a casher now, all enterprise zones and residences? Casher is hard because tech is so expensive and it really depends on tech.
commie isnt too bad, even with zero tech (not ideal play) you can usually keep up for quite awhile. literally just 100% indies +csites and sell your shit on the public market for money. you do have to sit there waiting for stuff to sell in order to have money but shouldnt be an issue?
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i don't think i've ever played well as a communist, i should be a techer.
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is the site even up? not loading for me.
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"earthempires.com" isnt working, but just realized 5 minutes ago that "www.earthempires.com" is up... maybe it was up all along?
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i've decided i'm only going to be techer always
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that's retarded
anyway, why do i even bother:
2016-08-26 14:56:55 PS forbidden (#43) Qfwfq (#79) 1562A (2224A)
2016-08-26 14:05:19 PS Qfwfq (#79) forbidden (#43) 1242A (1734A)
2016-08-26 07:49:45 PS forbidden (#43) Qfwfq (#79) 1562A (2223A)
some newb again deciding to try to ruin my game. and i bet this is the same guy as the idiot from last set/his friend. the main guy is called bayrock, his shitty noob buddy is called izmla, they cheat at the game and suicide on me because im good
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i'm seeing most of the top 5 not a member of GDI.
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All GDI at the end though hey?
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Rank 4
seems like i own
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21.1 mins ago
You tried to sell Tanks to a standing order but the buyer had no money!
lol scrub
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Rank 4
seems like i own
Need more land
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is business tech and residential tech useful as a communist?
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yeah but theyre your secondary techs. basically, your main focus is on indy tech and your next focus is on those, if you can afford them. at end of set (like on sunday when everything is selling for $1200 or whatever) it's easy to stock up on them, and worth it if you still have 360 turns on hand like i would. also, all week i do buy the bus/res as a commie if i see it up there for cheap, but not if i see it expensive
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that's pretty much what i'm doing. i got 40k indie tech at the moment and 11k each of business and residental. but i'd imagine military tech would be important as well?
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yeah thats about right.
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http://www.eestats.com/express/country/69 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/69)
fascist garbage trump supporter
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I've started to play this game myself but I'm not min/maxing. It is quite enjoyable.
How is "America for Americans" fascist? Nationalist, sure, but fascist?
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It's very fascist, and that's because of the implication that America is not already for Americans; ie that many citizens of the country are not true "Americans" (aka not white)
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But it is true. Many "citizens" are not citizens at all, but illegally here, and many people that are citizens want nothing to do with their nation or the betterment of their communities. I'm no ethno-nationalist, or fascist, but I do suppose I can be considered a nationalist. I don't partake well to labels though. Ideology is always poison. I digress! This web browser game is great and I'm glad I found it via you guys. Thank you kindly.
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Time Type Attacker Defender Result
2016-09-09 16:36:34 PS misanthropic rage (#96) America for Americans (#69) 628A (990A)
dumb fascist owned
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Nice. Get the fascists!!! Bash the FAsh
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wow that fascist went crazy and suicided after i hit him once.
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lol youre in a war with the nazi because you didnt join gdi. better take him down
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did u spy on him? what's his military.. i got 4 million jets.
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i spied on him hours ago so my shit is outdated probably.. he looked really bad lol.
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i spied on him and attacked him. he sucks, you need to wreck hsi ass
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whats his defense look like, i'm wondering if i could do 2-3 planned strikes
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oh i mistakenly put oil barrels on sale for $1440, LAWL
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Lol too much. Look at the private market, they're for sale $350 or something there so no one will ever pay that price.
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it was an accident, i clicked on sell all and used the default price before there was any oil on the market.
maybe some scub newb will by some before there's cheaper stuff.
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hmm i'm failing as a fascist.
success as a fascist is too reliant on the market and i got too many dumb sons of bitches underselling me.
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Uhh wtf food has been $100 and $90 all afternoon, it's the perfect time for a fascist. And there's 0 oil on the market as well.
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it was dogshit prices in the morning.
the market is volatile as fuck, it just went down to $45..
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it's $70 now.
and btw, $45 is still high. anything above $70 is the same thing as there not being any food on the market, basically. it is not even playable, cant play. have to sit there and wait for cheaper food. i havent been able to play today
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been trying to play primary but there's no bushels on the market for hours.
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yeah thats annoying
im definitely going to go casher in express this set. i really hope i can win this one more, so i can have gone "around the horn" (a thing i just made up (won with techer, won with commie, won with farmer, won with casher all in a row))
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i thought this was you
http://www.eestats.com/express/country/49 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/49)
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good name
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what do u exactly do as a casher, ur not producing anything besides money... ur just buying everything, bushels, military, tech. etc. ;
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Yep
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shit strat
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where the fuck are the bots?
i can't even retal guys when there's no jets to buy on the market.
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no bots this round because they crashed and the admin is out of town lol
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shit round, fuck it.
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i'll probably play this round as a casher but don't know if i'll ever do it again
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hmm well i guess it's ok , it just takes some time to really start cashing.
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is it a good strategy to be pure defense as a republic? that way you can save some money not having to buy oil all the time, and with the high explore rate you can still get good land (i'd already be closing on 8k land if i hadn't been hit 5 times).. and republics are -10% military strength and sux at war anyways.
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It's good for as long as you're exploring. Sooner or later, if you want to grow big, you need to attack. Of course, you can go all explore and succeed that way as well but that has a ceiling.
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yea i guess that's the problem, once u get to a certain amount of land exploring will be useless.
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hmm i just started playing and "Islamisthebeast" some reactionary retard is guerrilla attacking me and doing spy attacks. Another dude "SonofStalin" hit me twice.
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owned
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wtf is going on in this round, i got like 3 guys randomly doing spy attacks against me, and i've literally done nothing yet.rofl.
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when the fuck are the bots coming back, i'm sick of the lack of troops and tanks. i need to guerrilla or AB this goof to death..
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someone would have to email qzjul about it. nobody ever bothered to do that except me lol. qzjul@ earthempires.com
i emailed him about it enough times that i felt bad and stopped
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fucking son of a bitch, i'll just have to save up turns and use 100 turns on bioterrorism on this clown bastard owned.
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no bots still . i'm communist this round.
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http://www.eestats.com/express/country/28 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/28)
die piece of shit!
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must be a newbie to just missile someone for no reason
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it started back to last round, he just randomly did spy crap against me for no reason... i hardly did anything in retaliation, i'm a little more unforgiving this round.
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hmm i can't play this round, bushels are $300
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It can't stay that way but yah that's why i went farmer that one time, i got tired of sitting around waiting for affordable food
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http://www.eestats.com/express/country/39 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/39) oh i didn't know u were playing this round
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what's your opinion about teching as a republic?
http://www.eestats.com/express/country/43 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/43)
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You shouldnt be a full set techer as a republic
You should use democracy or theocracy. If you want to attack super aggressively maybe a tyrant or dict but that's a bit worse
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why would i tech as a theocracy, they have -35% max. technology
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because thats not -35% tech produced, that's -35% tech bonuses which who cares, labs dont get better with tech. like, yknow you cash more with bus/res tech, your industries make way more troops with indy tech, theres no tech that makes you tech better so theocracy can tech as well as anyone else. and then at the end of the set when youve got money to buy networth with, you have tanks for like $420 or whatever and can jump up for a big finish
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i'll try it next round
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do u buy bushels at around $44-$47 or wait until it's cheaper?
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$44-47 is acceptable. if most food has been sub $40 then i may wait for more sub 40 but if im not sure if cheaper stuff is coming $45ish is fine
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hmm expensive public market right now, finding cheaper shit on the private market.
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well you're a theo right? so yeah thats one of the benefits
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golden age hit u twice, act of war imo.
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Yeah hes been spying on me all day leading up to that, not sure what his deal is. He has 0 tanks and 0 troops and 0 turns and I have 220 turns. I also was equal jets/turrets 1m of each so who can say what a retards deal is, ill easily hit him back twice, 3 times probably, I actually want to topfeed du30 because I think he's the douchebag (Internet Hardman) that topfed my commie when he was in 200 dr, and I want payback
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maybe he got offended by your name
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i need land plus your name is offensive, i'll probably hit you
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so when i cash i should use democracy first, 50k bus and 50k res tech then convert to republic?
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No just use republic the whole time, it's better than Demo for this (cash bonus, explore bonus, demo has 0% market commissions but you're hardly selling anything)
Step 1) Build about 200-250 industries and get bpt to 45-50. 100% turret production, sell all the turrets over and over. You don't actually need more than 5k, so sell the rest on the public (and private for your first 70 turns).
Step 2) 1900 land, 45 or 50 bpt, the rest all labs (you can knock down the industries).
Step 3) Tech the 50k bus/res
Step 4) Tear down the labs and replace with enterprise zones and residences. You're a casher with good tech now
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oh
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No just use republic the whole time, it's better than Demo for this (cash bonus, explore bonus, demo has 0% market commissions but you're hardly selling anything)
Step 1) Build about 200-250 industries and get bpt to 45-50. 100% turret production, sell all the turrets over and over. You don't actually need more than 5k, so sell the rest on the public (and private for your first 70 turns).
Step 2) 1900 land, 45 or 50 bpt, the rest all labs (you can knock down the industries).
Step 3) Tech the 50k bus/res
Step 4) Tear down the labs and replace with enterprise zones and residences. You're a casher with good tech now
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i'll try it this round
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i just finished all 4 steps now. is it suppose to take that long?
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Yeah it takes sort of long, I forget how many turns but it does take a good bit
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now i wait until my turns build up and obliterate bot teams for some land
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so you got like 850 bus 800 res 180 csite 200 indies? plus 50k bus and res tech? if so then yeah good job. every turn you spend for the next day or so should be spent attacking, or building on captured land. or exploring and building on explored land, to a lesser extent.
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i got 500 bus and res, didn't have turns to buy more, with 593 unused land which i can build on now.
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fuck that croatia shithead for hitting me twice
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what's this the 3rd round in a row where the market is cheap dog shit?
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Seems to have been kind of common the last few months, since the bot formula tweak
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LOL this dude spent 25 turns spying on me and failing , finally succeded i guess on the 26th or just decided to blind attack after failing hard and grabbed a pathetic 100 acres, llolloollo
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are bushels generally more expensive in primary? i haven't seen it as low as the 30s yet, right now it's $61
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bushels get pretty expensive in the second month because techers start buying a lot of them to stock. first month they're not usually too expensive
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some autist tried destroying my oil barrels, even though i didn't have any.
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the guy who won last round didn't even join gdi, and was warring with GDI salesman. lawl.
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http://www.eestats.com/express/country/95 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/95)
what the hell lol
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the fuck. i spied on this dude and he has a tax rate of 45%..
Land Distribution
Enterprise Zones 547
Residences 228
Industrial Complexes 137
Military Bases 0
Research Labs 4921
Farms 0
Oil Rigs 0
Construction Sites 257
Unused Lands 0
Technology
Military 3265 98.5%
Medical 0 100.0%
Business 173,736 178.8%
Residential 153,490 178.0%
Agricultural 26,815 161.8%
Warfare 0 0.200%
Military Strategy 0 100.0%
Weapons 11,351 111.9%
Industrial 0 100.0%
Spy 0 100.0%
SDI 0 1.00%
Total 368,657
Current Status
Tax Revenues $969,354
Tax Rate 45%
Per Capita Income $31.75
Expenses $333,387
Net Income $635,967
Cashing $829,838
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that's high lol. Definitely not maximizing his income there but has he recently been hit by guerillas/bombing runs? there's some merit in messing your tax rates in those circumstances to increases your production (production gets lowered if your population is below equilibrium, and you just had a bunch of civilians die, so your production is bad becaues of that. but if you raise the tax level your population is closer to where it should be. i think. haven't dealt with this too much)
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http://www.eestats.com/express/country/11 (http://www.eestats.com/express/country/11)
no guerilla attacks or bombing runs.
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You sold 1 Jets for $113.
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http://www.eestats.com/express/toptencountries (http://www.eestats.com/express/toptencountries)
I'm #4 in Land grabbed right now, seems like I own
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That's a good stat to be on top of (except when youve been hit a whole bunch and land is getting passed back and forth)
You are #74?
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yes #74
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wow this is a pretty shitty round to buy tech... no one seems to be producing and selling it much.
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i'm a communist with no industrial tech. everytime i want to go buy some industry tech there's either none available, or like right now it's $9000. lol.
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Haha that sucks. I'm nto playing this round but makes me wish I was there teching
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these last several rounds have been garbage. 2 weeks back bushels were so highly priced the asking price for them was $65, lmao.
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Hm, Maybe I'll Play Next Wek
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lawl someone put turrets on the market for $67
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only a little over 60 people playing this round, no bot teams, only 3 fascists.. i'm considering changing my government to fascist.
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the bots are down again? :(
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what kind of shit round is this... there's been no jets on the market for ages, turret prices keep skyrocketing (now $134) and there's no bushels.
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Well I've been messing round with EE a bit for the last month or so, just because I noticed this thread. It's kinda interesting. I noticed a few familiar names floating around the EE forums too.
I have countries on the express and tournament server... have been teching mostly.. still working it all out. Anyone here still active? (i.e. play / run a server / maintain the code....)