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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: ~ToRa~ on June 18, 2017, 11:57:52 AM

Title: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on June 18, 2017, 11:57:52 AM
The most common form of hacking is maphacking, which removes fog of war from online games. There are other hacks like build hack which are less common on server ru.

I am of the position map hacking isn't common on server ru. With the exception of dellam and martin18 I don't believe anyone hacks. But for various reasons many players actively support the idea that maphacking is still a regular occurrence on sever ru.



 
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 18, 2017, 12:13:10 PM
What can i say.. I remember claw vs me and he went to my base in few sec after farm, i think i was s9,   he had voice hack, what i was doing.


If some1 know programing its easy to avoid status server, it could be problem when some1 need stream or warvid
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on June 18, 2017, 12:26:18 PM
If someone takes an SS while the game is paused and posts it timely wouldn't that prove they didnt hack in whatever game they are playing in.



Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 18, 2017, 12:42:31 PM
These programs are external, if he didnt use "old hack" where u can see mines/buildings after turn off, i testes warcrap few years ago and i remember if u got turn on at start u can see all map without gold mines but if u got good eyesight u could see peon, if he move it peon dot disapear but u know where he started


Now im waiting for asking me ss, or calling hacker  8)
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: BabyShark on June 18, 2017, 12:44:16 PM
I voted yes.

I know it's rampant because I hack all the time. I just like to know what my opponents are doing. I don't really consider this a bad thing.

Only a few people would share vision on request as my opponent and then when they beat me it was just embarrassing so I'd rather they just don't know.

I have a don't ask, don't tell policy.

Some of us just need the extra help, ya know what I mean?
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: tupac on June 18, 2017, 12:54:49 PM
Dude map hack is dead lol people moved on..

1. Sound hack is just as good.
2. Programs can take a screenshot and remove Fog. Allowing you to see everything in a pic....
3. Plus the old school map hack you can toggle on or off paused or not lol.

Hmmm ;)
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 18, 2017, 12:58:12 PM
Dude map hack is dead lol people moved on..

1. Sound hack is just as good.
2. Programs can take a screenshot and remove Fog. Allowing you to see everything in a pic....
3. Plus the old school map hack you can toggle on or off paused or not lol.
Ofc u could toggle off but still mines and buildings are visible
I am talking about old hack, i dont know new


Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on June 18, 2017, 01:06:07 PM
These programs are external, if he didnt use "old hack" where u can see mines/buildings after turn off, i testes warcrap few years ago and i remember if u got turn on at start u can see all map without gold mines but if u got good eyesight u could see peon, if he move it peon dot disapear but u know where he started


Now im waiting for asking me ss, or calling hacker  8)

So your saying there is a program which allows for you to see a peon on the mini map without removing the fog of war.
How exactly would someone get this map hack may I ask.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: tk[as] on June 18, 2017, 01:56:36 PM
someone programs it.. then wants to show it off to a friend .. then friend asks for it.. then that guy shows it to a close friend .. before u know it a small handful of people have a hack
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: tupac on June 18, 2017, 05:33:04 PM
someone programs it.. then wants to show it off to a friend .. then friend asks for it.. then that guy shows it to a close friend .. before u know it a small handful of people have a hack
Yep and now iL has a antihack I don't give hacks to anyone.

See if anyone can get their hands on my unrurly hack. I sent iL a copy over a year ago. Its so deadly it would ruin war2 if it went public. I use it for modding and gave it 2 two people so far.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 18, 2017, 05:41:14 PM
oh come.. i tested hack online with tora and i allready know how to hack and still  got this stupid ah... but i think 99% players cant do the same

and i no need to hack to be top player 
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on June 18, 2017, 05:47:17 PM
Yeah from what ive seen these hacks would all be detectable by the AH.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: tk[as] on June 18, 2017, 07:12:37 PM
A lot of people don't have it running
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 18, 2017, 07:21:47 PM
it doesnt matter that some1 have got/havent got ah

I can say if u will see some1 got status  "UNKNOWN"  probably its hacker so u can ask him for ss ofc u need still proof it
like error with swift

First time when i was using hack  my status change from AH to UNKNOWN
Second time when reboot w2 i had AH with hack

Now i see 2 players with UNKNOWN status
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on June 18, 2017, 07:25:35 PM
Yeah if someone showing unknown it is kinda suspicious.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: woofy on June 18, 2017, 08:00:11 PM
hmm i don't have it running. is there somewhere i can turn it on? i downloaded the client from the website when i got back into war2 a few months ago, was running fine back then. reformatted last month and downloaded from same site - no AH. what am i missing?
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 18, 2017, 08:06:25 PM
if u are open war2loader it should ask you for update AH, i had it
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: eleison on June 19, 2017, 08:12:27 AM
If someone takes an SS while the game is paused and posts it timely wouldn't that prove they didnt hack in whatever game they are playing in.

I'm not hacking and would never ever do it (just to make that clear). But if I did, I would do have my hack on second monitor... SS is not a valid test of hacking or not...


Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Igognito on June 19, 2017, 08:40:07 AM
Hi all,

define common?
I'm pretty sure I had a couple of games with players that used map hacking.
I even got one, as can be seen on another thread.

But I do believe that most people are not hacking.
I would say that a 1-2% to a maximum of 5% of active players hacks.

Cheers
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Lone on June 19, 2017, 08:50:49 AM
I'm almost certain there are no hackers/cheaters among top players right now.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 19, 2017, 10:54:17 AM
I don't think there are many normal players hacking these days.  I don't think hacking has been totally eliminated, there's probably someone or other doing it, but I don't think it's common and I assume most games I'm in are legit.

These programs are external, if he didnt use "old hack" where u can see mines/buildings after turn off, i testes warcrap few years ago and i remember if u got turn on at start u can see all map without gold mines but if u got good eyesight u could see peon, if he move it peon dot disapear but u know where he started


Now im waiting for asking me ss, or calling hacker  8)

So your saying there is a program which allows for you to see a peon on the mini map without removing the fog of war.
How exactly would someone get this map hack may I ask.
Lance made that hack years ago.  Got caught using it against me in a teams game because he failed to edit out a watcher's unit hiding above 2.  Minimap only hack shows you everything you need to see and is much easier to clean up when someone asks ss.  But it would set off the AH without additional work arounds.

What can i say.. I remember claw vs me and he went to my base in few sec after farm, i think i was s9,   he had voice hack, what i was doing.
Yeah it doesn't necessarily have to be "voice" hack but starting spots are stored in game data as spots 1-8, so you can tell where people started by reading game data without map hacks being needed.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: MaStA{hR} on June 19, 2017, 11:33:13 AM
Someone please give me the link to an undetectable map hack so I can become indestructible please. And thanks ahead of time! lololol
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: BabyShark on June 19, 2017, 03:09:14 PM
Masta I'll PM you. No one has ever and will never find mine.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: loverbeer on June 20, 2017, 04:42:36 AM
Dellam is on :)
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Winchester on June 20, 2017, 06:39:08 AM
someone hacking as cherrrycoke (3 R's instead of the regular player with the 2 R's but spoofing with 2 R's once he joins a game), also from Australia and flagged as unknown, on at the same time while dellam is chatting in lobby.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Lone on June 20, 2017, 06:41:14 AM
and he is hosting rigged gow
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: CLAW the racist on June 20, 2017, 10:42:10 AM
just ban all the unknowns. ive never been unknown and i play legit
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: tk[as] on June 20, 2017, 11:23:56 AM
Did szwag just admit to hacking.. dirty kurwa
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: CLAW the racist on June 20, 2017, 12:18:41 PM
polish people always shared hacks between each other. they work best on chop which is why we dominate the scene
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 20, 2017, 01:07:49 PM
polish people always shared hacks between each other. they work best on chop which is why we dominate the scene
++

sory tk if u want our hack u need learn polish and get polish citizenship
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: mousEtopher on June 20, 2017, 01:56:04 PM
I know "czego" and "dobra", send plz
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 20, 2017, 02:35:44 PM
U need send photo your polish id also
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: CLAW the racist on June 20, 2017, 05:34:52 PM
I know "czego" and "dobra", send plz
mmm obscure polanie references
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: tupac on June 20, 2017, 06:47:47 PM
polish people always shared hacks between each other. they work best on chop which is why we dominate the scene
++

sory tk if u want our hack u need learn polish and get polish citizenship
Don't worry tk you know I represent the Americans! We got the best hacks ever, way better then the polacs can dream of 🤣 hell I even supplied the Russians! :)
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: CLAW the racist on June 21, 2017, 11:25:12 AM
you were always a nobody in w2, therefore your hax suck ass
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: tk[as] on June 21, 2017, 12:14:33 PM
I know kurwa. Send hacks.

On serious note I don't think hacking is common. . But I believe it still exists and will always exist... I'm sure some  people only use them occasionally to reduce chances of getting caught

Some people are just shady.. there's my life lesson for the day
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: tupac on June 21, 2017, 05:22:51 PM
you were always a nobody in w2, therefore your hax suck ass
My hacks will own you anyday!
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: easycompany on June 21, 2017, 05:28:52 PM
ug tupac is correct u cant win...but really swift and the top players are dam good hax is more for a dellam type person.

but just warvid

but ug got a cold in summer! may be my last year  :'( 

music section here i come
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Sentinel1 on June 21, 2017, 07:36:57 PM
how could anyone ever lose a 1v1 while maphacking?  i kinda wish i would have experimented with it so i would know, because to me, it seems like it would be so easy to win.
Title: Re: Do you believe map hacking is still active on the server?
Post by: Szwagier on June 21, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
how could anyone ever lose a 1v1 while maphacking?  i kinda wish i would have experimented with it so i would know, because to me, it seems like it would be so easy to win.
its simple, maphacker will watch more his enemy than he will play