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Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 14, 2015, 12:00:08 AM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on April 14, 2015, 12:24:41 AM
Black people can't live without their welfare candy.

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on April 14, 2015, 03:28:40 AM
There hasnt been a succesful economic social system throughout the history of mankind.  All have failed. You name it, socialism, communism, nationalism, all doomed to fail. And capitalism has also failed. And this era of capitalism will fail. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but it will.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 14, 2015, 09:01:05 AM
There hasnt been a succesful economic social system throughout the history of mankind.  All have failed. You name it, socialism, communism, nationalism, all doomed to fail. And capitalism has also failed. And this era of capitalism will fail. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but it will.

Idiot.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 14, 2015, 09:01:23 AM
Black people can't live without their welfare candy.

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Idiot.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on April 14, 2015, 11:04:37 AM
Black people can't live without their welfare candy.

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Idiot.
Pink nightmare.

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 14, 2015, 01:09:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/7tk7oK8.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on April 14, 2015, 01:15:45 PM
(http://www.troll.me/images/panic-face-king/holy-shit-thumb.jpg)

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on April 14, 2015, 01:19:51 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?

This is why I created the Leftism thread. http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,530.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,530.0.html)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 14, 2015, 01:37:58 PM
no
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 14, 2015, 02:59:12 PM
http://rt.com/usa/248929-capitol-lockdown-protester-shoot/ (http://rt.com/usa/248929-capitol-lockdown-protester-shoot/)

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 14, 2015, 03:10:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GCOVi0J.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on April 14, 2015, 07:59:08 PM
(http://img.memerial.net/memerial.net/4877/how-to-get-welfare.jpg)

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: foonat on April 14, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
what site is that jon?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 14, 2015, 11:10:07 PM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/7tk7oK8.png[/url])


$39 for spaghetti...thats probably some really good spaghetti. mmmm
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 14, 2015, 11:38:26 PM
what about $12 bottle of water.
i feel this is what patrick bateman would order.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 14, 2015, 11:41:03 PM
what site is that jon?
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&type=I&cid=N00000528&newMem=N&recs=20 (https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&type=I&cid=N00000528&newMem=N&recs=20)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: foonat on April 14, 2015, 11:58:57 PM
it is Mare Monte Spaghetti.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 15, 2015, 09:52:30 AM
what about $12 bottle of water.
i feel this is what patrick bateman would order.


They charge for water in Europe (or at least they do in Greece, which is the only place in Europe I've been to) so that didn't jump out at me quite as much but its also never $12 and its usually rolled into the service or table charge or whatever since gratuity isn't required.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 15, 2015, 12:20:29 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/apr/15/fight-for-15-protest-workers-minimum-wage-live (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/apr/15/fight-for-15-protest-workers-minimum-wage-live)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 15, 2015, 12:31:09 PM
what about $12 bottle of water.
i feel this is what patrick bateman would order.


They charge for water in Europe (or at least they do in Greece, which is the only place in Europe I've been to) so that didn't jump out at me quite as much but its also never $12 and its usually rolled into the service or table charge or whatever since gratuity isn't required.

this was nello's in new york.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 15, 2015, 12:41:17 PM
what about $12 bottle of water.
i feel this is what patrick bateman would order.


They charge for water in Europe (or at least they do in Greece, which is the only place in Europe I've been to) so that didn't jump out at me quite as much but its also never $12 and its usually rolled into the service or table charge or whatever since gratuity isn't required.

this was nello's in new york.


I know I'm just saying it didn't jump out as much because even at nice places that's a lot for spaghetti. I guess Spaghetti Mara Monte has shrimp in it though so that would make it a little more expensive.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 15, 2015, 01:11:33 PM
it's what the bourgeoisie are eating
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 15, 2015, 01:13:06 PM
The food the bourgeoisie eat is usually pretty good, tbh.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 15, 2015, 02:19:42 PM
it better be, it cost 50k. this decadence is disgusting actually.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 15, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
To be fair most of that bill is made up of the three $10k+ bottles of wine.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 15, 2015, 02:53:39 PM
I just appreciate good food is all, obviously anyone who can afford to pay $40 for a plate of spaghetti and $10k for a bottle of wine deserves to be brutally murdered.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 16, 2015, 02:26:40 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/mar/30/it-will-take-100-years-for-the-worlds-poorest-people-to-earn-125-a-day (http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/mar/30/it-will-take-100-years-for-the-worlds-poorest-people-to-earn-125-a-day)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on April 17, 2015, 08:31:14 PM
(http://rense.com/1.imagesH/printing_dees.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on April 17, 2015, 08:34:09 PM
(http://rense.com/1.imagesH/haitkat_dees.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on April 17, 2015, 10:45:53 PM
Deesillustration.com.  Classic shit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 18, 2015, 09:26:49 AM
(http://www.r-sw.com/custimages/dd395-Book%20(site).jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 20, 2015, 01:19:00 PM
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/apr/19/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-99-percent-new-income-going-to/ (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/apr/19/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-99-percent-new-income-going-to/)

Bernie Sanders says 99 percent of 'new' income is going to top 1 percent

"What we're seeing, Chris, right now is that for 40 years, the American middle class has been disappearing. Millions of people are working longer hours for lower wages despite a huge increase in technology and productivity," Sanders said. "
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on April 20, 2015, 05:18:29 PM
well then we better jump in to be in the 1% then
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 20, 2015, 06:50:16 PM
well then we better jump in to be in the 1% then


this is literally the libertarian/ron paul/alex jones solution to inequality
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 21, 2015, 04:51:57 PM
http://rt.com/usa/251757-hillary-top...m-credibility/ (http://rt.com/usa/251757-hillary-top...m-credibility/)

“There’s something wrong when CEOs make 300 times more than the typical worker. There’s something wrong when American workers keep getting more productive, as they have... but that productivity is not matched in their paychecks,” Clinton said in Monticello, Iowa, last week.

Good words. Too bad she's a bullshit artist. Her campaign is funded by these rich dicks.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on April 21, 2015, 05:40:32 PM
yeah theres no point even reading anything shes saying.  it's obvious pandering and shell shift back the other way once she wins the democratic nomination.  she's worthless garbage
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 22, 2015, 07:29:24 AM
even like half of republicans say that shit these days lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 23, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3qZthQVkAQ#t=21m10s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3qZthQVkAQ#t=21m10s)

chomsky owning retard capitalist apologists that believe capitalism spawns innovation

21:10
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on April 26, 2015, 10:54:00 AM
Only poor people are against capitalism. They mad because they can't have a piece of the pie.

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Rit on April 26, 2015, 12:42:16 PM
We don't even have pure Capitalism.  We have a mixed economy where we have free enterprise being regulated by our government.  Most problems in the economic system we have today are caused by over-regulation and the manipulation of our currency.  Corporations are working in collusion with government officials.  Pure Capitalism would keep the economy and government separate.  Although we would see a great improvement in the system, I still despise it due to my own personal observations.  I've seen nothing but contradictions from people who seem as if they have good intentions yet they withhold the truth, lie, and manipulate all for the sake of making money.  Even so, they try to put it in a different light and try to justify their actions as if they haven't broken any principles they claim to hold dear.  Capitalism promotes nothing but self-interest and is not synonymous with any wisdom throughout our history that teaches good will.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 26, 2015, 12:57:14 PM
Only poor people are against capitalism. They mad because they can't have a piece of the pie.

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no poor people suffer the most under capitalism. the richer middle class are more complacent because they live comfortably and don't bother to give a damn about the poverty surrounding and growing around them. there have been rich people who speak out against capitalism, like chomsky.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 26, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
We don't even have pure Capitalism.  We have a mixed economy where we have free enterprise being regulated by our government.  Most problems in the economic system we have today are caused by over-regulation and the manipulation of our currency.  Corporations are working in collusion with government officials.  Pure Capitalism would keep the economy and government separate.  Although we would see a great improvement in the system, I still despise it due to my own personal observations.  I've seen nothing but contradictions from people who seem as if they have good intentions yet they withhold the truth, lie, and manipulate all for the sake of making money.  Even so, they try to put it in a different light and try to justify their actions as if they haven't broken any principles they claim to hold dear.  Capitalism promotes nothing but self-interest and is not synonymous with any wisdom throughout our history that teaches good will.


ancaps are funny, we're already living in an ancap paradise and they're too stupid to know it. over regulation didn't cause anything, it's the root ideology of capitalist theory of an accumulation of wealth by any means necessary
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Rit on April 26, 2015, 01:22:48 PM
ancaps are funny, we're already living in an ancap paradise and they're too stupid to know it. over regulation didn't cause anything, it's the root ideology of capitalist theory of an accumulation of wealth by any means necessary

Too much of anything is usually never good. 
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: I hate naggers on April 26, 2015, 01:23:04 PM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/liberal-activist-is-brutally-raped-in-haiti-by-a-black-man-blames-white-men/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/liberal-activist-is-brutally-raped-in-haiti-by-a-black-man-blames-white-men/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 26, 2015, 04:59:57 PM
We don't even have pure Capitalism.  We have a mixed economy where we have free enterprise being regulated by our government.  Most problems in the economic system we have today are caused by over-regulation and the manipulation of our currency.  Corporations are working in collusion with government officials.  Pure Capitalism would keep the economy and government separate.  Although we would see a great improvement in the system, I still despise it due to my own personal observations.  I've seen nothing but contradictions from people who seem as if they have good intentions yet they withhold the truth, lie, and manipulate all for the sake of making money.  Even so, they try to put it in a different light and try to justify their actions as if they haven't broken any principles they claim to hold dear.  Capitalism promotes nothing but self-interest and is not synonymous with any wisdom throughout our history that teaches good will.

This is fucking retarded. "Pure capitalism" as imagined by ancap/libertarian/Austrian types doesn't exist and can't exist, its a complete contradiction of itself.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 26, 2015, 05:02:01 PM
[url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/liberal-activist-is-brutally-raped-in-haiti-by-a-black-man-blames-white-men/[/url] ([url]http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/liberal-activist-is-brutally-raped-in-haiti-by-a-black-man-blames-white-men/[/url])


This is fake, but she's right.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 26, 2015, 05:51:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrLIJxyPZBI& (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrLIJxyPZBI&)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 26, 2015, 06:38:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2cCdgwgoM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2cCdgwgoM)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on April 26, 2015, 08:02:34 PM
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk13/Punkrot77/capitalism-1.gif)

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 26, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2cCdgwgoM[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2cCdgwgoM[/url])

he's zionist like every other candidate, still the best option if he runs.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Rit on April 26, 2015, 11:09:31 PM
We don't even have pure Capitalism.  We have a mixed economy where we have free enterprise being regulated by our government.  Most problems in the economic system we have today are caused by over-regulation and the manipulation of our currency.  Corporations are working in collusion with government officials.  Pure Capitalism would keep the economy and government separate.  Although we would see a great improvement in the system, I still despise it due to my own personal observations.  I've seen nothing but contradictions from people who seem as if they have good intentions yet they withhold the truth, lie, and manipulate all for the sake of making money.  Even so, they try to put it in a different light and try to justify their actions as if they haven't broken any principles they claim to hold dear.  Capitalism promotes nothing but self-interest and is not synonymous with any wisdom throughout our history that teaches good will.

This is fucking retarded. "Pure capitalism" as imagined by ancap/libertarian/Austrian types doesn't exist and can't exist, its a complete contradiction of itself.

Yes, pure Laissez-faire capitalism.  It hasn't existed but I wouldn't go as far to say that it couldn't exist or wouldn't be better than the current system we have.  All philosophies have unforeseen consequences and no doubt capitalism has it's fair share.  It's a contradiction of itself, but how?  Is that something you read online from someone else's perspective?  You state this claim yet you don't back it up.  I don't think you'll know either way unless you've seen this system in action first-hand.

 
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 30, 2015, 12:07:24 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/30/bernie-sanders-confirms-presidential-run-and-damns-americas-inequities (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/30/bernie-sanders-confirms-presidential-run-and-damns-americas-inequities)


sanders confirmed
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 30, 2015, 09:33:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1F9eiLE.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 30, 2015, 10:00:10 PM
Debate this bitch

(http://platypus1917.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/naxalites4.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 30, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
Bernie Sanders: We need to help the middle class!!! I'm a socialist.

Hillary Clinton: I agree.

Bernie Sanders: Good debate. Also we must support Israel's right to exist.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 30, 2015, 10:14:01 PM
Sanders owned her by saying they need to get big money out of politics.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 30, 2015, 10:27:42 PM
So why waste time with rigged elections.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on May 02, 2015, 12:09:24 PM
(https://scontent-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11150457_1568755723369192_4033532071270076804_n.jpg?oh=024aea62a73e4da41cc0dc15c2664623&oe=5598C520)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 03, 2015, 11:53:56 AM
So why waste time with rigged elections.
bernie isn't owned by the corporations.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 03, 2015, 07:57:27 PM
So why waste time with rigged elections.
bernie isn't owned by the corporations.

The elections are so it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on May 03, 2015, 08:29:57 PM
So why waste time with rigged elections.
bernie isn't owned by the corporations.

The elections are so it doesn't matter.
Money talks.

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 04, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
http://carlyfiorina.org/ (http://carlyfiorina.org/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 05, 2015, 01:45:34 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Karl_Marx_001.jpg)



Karl Marx birthday today!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 22, 2015, 03:01:56 PM
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http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate (http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on May 22, 2015, 04:49:18 PM
thats weird how the rich baby is 80-years-old
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on May 23, 2015, 12:10:38 PM

([url]http://thewireless.co.nz/system/production/content_images/images/000/002/336/full/01.gif[/url])
([url]http://thewireless.co.nz/system/production/content_images/images/000/002/337/full/02.gif[/url])
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[url]http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate[/url] ([url]http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-on-a-plate[/url])


Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 27, 2015, 06:12:12 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/HgEhnyw.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 27, 2015, 09:24:31 PM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/HgEhnyw.jpg[/url])


Hell, he makes a good point.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: foonat on June 02, 2015, 09:57:20 AM
that is Andrejz or whatever the guys name was that said paying taxes is like someone stealing your TV
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 02, 2015, 11:06:44 AM
i bet he doesn't pay taxes and says people on welfare are leeches
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 02, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
i bet he doesn't pay taxes and says people on welfare are leeches

He was Polish which pretty much explains it.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 02, 2015, 12:48:00 PM
That guy provided one of my favorite insane retard libertarian quotes ever when he said the state is bad and shouldn't fund anything, except for the military and "secret services."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 03, 2015, 10:48:09 AM
so people apparently think corruption can be rooted out in capitalism, when in fact it's inherent in the system itself.
people are jizzing their pants over the fifa arrests and sepp blatter's resignation but his replacement will probably be a corrupt jordanian prince or some other corrupt gimp.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: I hate naggers on June 03, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/M9rD1gB.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 03, 2015, 11:43:18 AM
scum
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 07, 2015, 12:26:34 PM
Spoiler
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 10, 2015, 04:45:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dBhnzuG.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 10, 2015, 05:13:41 PM
On April 25, 2014, on the instruction of the city's emergency manager, Flint stopped buying its supplies from the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department and started drawing water directly from the river, which meant a budgetary savings of $12 million a year. The downside: people started getting sick.

Since then, tests have detected E. coli and fecal bacteria in the water, as well as high levels of trihalomethanes, a carcinogenic chemical cocktail known as THMs. For months, the city concealed the presence of THMs, which over years can lead to increased rates of cancer, kidney failure, and birth defects. Still, it was obvious to local residents that something was up. Some of them were breaking out in mysterious rashes or experiencing bouts of severe diarrhea, while others watched as their eyelashes and hair began to fall out.

As we cross a small footbridge, McClinton recounts how the city council recently voted to "do all things necessary" to get Detroit's water back.  The emergency manager, however, immediately overrode their decision, terming it "incomprehensible."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 12, 2015, 11:47:49 AM
 billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 12:01:47 PM

billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.

And welfare parasites are responsible for the downfall of society.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 12:06:09 PM
billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.

Why bother using contemporary political terms like "terrorist" used as epithets by the capitalist ruling class when pigs and classics like that work just fine.

Also why bother putting "economic" there first, the world's wealthy are directly responsible for the majority of actual terrorism and violence across the globe.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 12:06:33 PM

billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.

And welfare parasites are responsible for the downfall of society.


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No idiots like you are.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 12:07:07 PM


billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.

And welfare parasites are responsible for the downfall of society.


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No idiots like you are.


Welfare junkie...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 12:09:27 PM
It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 12:34:41 PM

It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.

Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 12:40:10 PM

It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.

Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.


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You can live a lavish lifestyle on welfare without working? Why don't you quit your job and get on welfare then? Oh because you just have too much integrity for that I guess, lol.
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 12:44:21 PM

It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.

Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.


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You can live a lavish lifestyle on welfare without working? Why don't you quit your job and get on welfare then? Oh because you just have too much integrity for that I guess, lol.

I meant to put lavish in quotes...of course there are different standards when it comes to what people perceive as lavish. So to answer your question, yes you can on any income whether it be earned or welfare.

Why would I quit my job, your kind of people depend on my tax money to put food on your plates and cotton on your backs.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 12:59:49 PM

It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.

Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.


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You can live a lavish lifestyle on welfare without working? Why don't you quit your job and get on welfare then? Oh because you just have too much integrity for that I guess, lol.

I meant to put lavish in quotes...of course there are different standards when it comes to what people perceive as lavish. So to answer your question, yes you can on any income whether it be earned or welfare.

Why would I quit my job, your kind of people depend on my tax money to put food on your plates and cotton on your backs.


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Because if you quit your job you could apparently live "lavishly," without working, and instead spend all your time playing retard Paintball all day because you haven't learned how to play War2 in 20 years?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 01:11:13 PM
"People on welfare live lavish lifestyles and don't work, and I work harder for less money and a lower quality of life than them. This makes me smarter and better than them and not a complete retarded sucker somehow."
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 01:34:01 PM

It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.

Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.


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You can live a lavish lifestyle on welfare without working? Why don't you quit your job and get on welfare then? Oh because you just have too much integrity for that I guess, lol.

I meant to put lavish in quotes...of course there are different standards when it comes to what people perceive as lavish. So to answer your question, yes you can on any income whether it be earned or welfare.

Why would I quit my job, your kind of people depend on my tax money to put food on your plates and cotton on your backs.


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Because if you quit your job you could apparently live "lavishly," without working, and instead spend all your time playing retard Paintball all day because you haven't learned how to play War2 in 20 years?

If I quit my job I wouldn't be living in any lavish standard as I would not have a income.

I said in my previous post "...any income whether it be earned or welfare"


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 01:39:57 PM
If I quit my job I wouldn't be living in any lavish standard as I would not have a income.

I said in my previous post "...any income whether it be earned or welfare"


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So you're admitting that your original assertion, that people on welfare live lavishly, was incorrect, and you're a fucked up retard who plays Paintball. Thanks for clearing that up and I accept your implicit apology.
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 01:40:50 PM
If I quit my job I wouldn't be living in any lavish standard as I would not have a income.

I said in my previous post "...any income whether it be earned or welfare"


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So you're admitting that your original assertion, that people on welfare live lavishly, was incorrect, and you're a fucked up retard who plays Paintball. Thanks for clearing that up and I accept your implicit apology.


No it's correct, welfare is a sort of income.

You seem mad, you angry that I dislike your way of living?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 12, 2015, 01:57:15 PM

Why bother using contemporary political terms like "terrorist" used as epithets by the capitalist ruling class when pigs and classics like that work just fine.

it's not a ruling class term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Nechayev

Also why bother putting "economic" there first, the world's wealthy are directly responsible for the majority of actual terrorism and violence across the globe.

but it's all related to economics and keeping their wealth (power).
the wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.


Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 01:58:45 PM
No it's correct, welfare is a sort of income.

You seem mad, you angry that I dislike your way of living?


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Nothing you say even makes sense because years of playing Paintball have given you brain damage.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 12, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
people on welfare who get shit money, barely enough to survive , are leeches? how did this propaganda ever gain traction to begin with, it's beyond absurd. i guess the crab mentality is mostly responsible as people think welfare recipients are driving around with expensive cars without earning their money at a job, so they get jealous at this perceived lifestyle and lash out. what a bunch of horseshit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 02:40:08 PM

people on welfare who get shit money, barely enough to survive , are leeches? how did this propaganda ever gain traction to begin with, it's beyond absurd. i guess the crab mentality is mostly responsible as people think welfare recipients are driving around with expensive cars without earning their money at a job, so they get jealous at this perceived lifestyle and lash out. what a bunch of horseshit.

Yes they are leeches...go get a job and it's not impossible to earn a living for the essentials. Have kids? Your problem, shouldn't of reproduced if can't support them.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 02:44:58 PM

it's not a ruling class term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Nechayev

In the contemporary social context it is, its like that dumb liberal thing where you say "Bush is the real terrorist!" because its not enough to simply say he's a capitalist.

but it's all related to economics and keeping their wealth (power).

All "terrorism" is about economics, if you were a Marxist you'd know that.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 02:46:16 PM
people on welfare who get shit money, barely enough to survive , are leeches? how did this propaganda ever gain traction to begin with, it's beyond absurd. i guess the crab mentality is mostly responsible as people think welfare recipients are driving around with expensive cars without earning their money at a job, so they get jealous at this perceived lifestyle and lash out. what a bunch of horseshit.


That's definitely it and why the biggest anti-public assistance types are complete losers looking for something to make them feel better about themselves. "I make shit money at a shit job and hate my life and my only solace comes from retard paintball custom War2 maps, but at least I'm not like those leeches on welfare!!!!!!"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 02:54:03 PM

people on welfare who get shit money, barely enough to survive , are leeches? how did this propaganda ever gain traction to begin with, it's beyond absurd. i guess the crab mentality is mostly responsible as people think welfare recipients are driving around with expensive cars without earning their money at a job, so they get jealous at this perceived lifestyle and lash out. what a bunch of horseshit.


That's definitely it and why the biggest anti-public assistance types are complete losers looking for something to make them feel better about themselves. "I make shit money at a shit job and hate my life and my only solace comes from retard paintball custom War2 maps, but at least I'm not like those leeches on welfare!!!!!!"

Stick to your welfare checks because I can assure you that you ain't got a career in impersonating me...I do play RPGs though and other custom maps. What do you play? Haven't seen you on... Don't get me wrong I get people elderly and sick need assistance but if your a 40 year old on welfare, you don't need it. Bankrupting this nation.






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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 12, 2015, 03:10:25 PM
Stick to your welfare checks because I can assure you that you ain't got a career in impersonating me...

I would have to repeatedly be hit in the head with heavy mining equipment to make a career out of impersonating you effectively.

I do play RPGs though and other custom maps.

rofl, hahahahaha...look at this fucking retard
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 12, 2015, 03:16:11 PM
yea, people on welfare (who were probably forced to get assistance after their capitalist owners moved their factories overseas to exploit cheaper labour) are bankrupting the nation. let's ignore your trillion dollar "defense" budget.

work is becoming obsolete with technological advances resulting in more and more machines taking over jobs and the idea you need to toil to earn a living is a shit archaic ideology anyways. 8+ hr workdays are more ludicrous and unnecessary than ever.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 12, 2015, 03:20:25 PM

Stick to your welfare checks because I can assure you that you ain't got a career in impersonating me...

I would have to repeatedly be hit in the head with heavy mining equipment to make a career out of impersonating you effectively.


Rofl


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 13, 2015, 09:44:17 PM
gulag for you
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 14, 2015, 02:03:53 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/rich-californians-youll-have-to-pry-the-hoses-from-our-cold-dead-hands/2015/06/13/fac6f998-0e39-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/rich-californians-youll-have-to-pry-the-hoses-from-our-cold-dead-hands/2015/06/13/fac6f998-0e39-11e5-9726-49d6fa26a8c6_story.html)


Rich Californians balk at limits: ‘We’re not all equal when it comes to water’


look at these scummy rich retards who think they're entitled to use any amount of water they want despite droughts. these mental cripples are so far outside of reality and they need to be brought back down to the cold hard earth.

People “should not be forced to live on property with brown lawns, golf on brown courses or apologize for wanting their gardens to be beautiful,” Yuhas fumed recently on social media. “We pay significant property taxes based on where we live,” he added in an interview. “And, no, we’re not all equal when it comes to water.”


this useless dipshit has some horrific immoral thinking, where golf and green lawns are more important than the lives of poor people. this is what capitalism has done to our minds.

people with excessive wealth are a detriment to humanity.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 15, 2015, 06:18:17 PM
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness


it's in america's own declaration of independence that advocates the destruction of amerikkka in its current form.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 15, 2015, 07:20:10 PM
Liberalism is very fail.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 21, 2015, 10:16:24 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jun/21/australian-inequality-rising-as-top-20-increase-wealth-and-income-report (http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jun/21/australian-inequality-rising-as-top-20-increase-wealth-and-income-report)

Australia’s rich are getting richer, and while inequality here is not as extreme as in the United States or the United Kingdom, it is heading in that direction, according to a new study by the Australian Council of Social Service.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 21, 2015, 05:18:47 PM

[url]http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jun/21/australian-inequality-rising-as-top-20-increase-wealth-and-income-report[/url] ([url]http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jun/21/australian-inequality-rising-as-top-20-increase-wealth-and-income-report[/url])

Australia’s rich are getting richer, and while inequality here is not as extreme as in the United States or the United Kingdom, it is heading in that direction, according to a new study by the Australian Council of Social Service.


Cut the welfare and government spending, U.S. will prosper...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 22, 2015, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: jon
the wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.

It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.

Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on June 22, 2015, 12:19:46 PM
Online poker

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on June 22, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
What a great way to explore this topic with this doc. A great and enlightening watch.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2215151/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2215151/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdDupITDv8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdDupITDv8)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 22, 2015, 12:29:03 PM
Quote from: jon
the wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.

It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.

Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.




multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 22, 2015, 12:30:10 PM
What a great way to explore this topic with this doc. A great and enlightening watch.
[url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2215151/[/url] ([url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2215151/[/url])

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdDupITDv8[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdDupITDv8[/url])

yea, i think i saw this on netflix.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 22, 2015, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: jon
the wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.

It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.

Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.




multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.

A small percentage of them do far far more good than you or I.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 22, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: jon
the wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.

It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.

Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.




multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.

A small percentage of them do far far more good than you or I.


No, they don't, because any good they do is outweighed by the net evil of their existence.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on June 22, 2015, 12:55:39 PM
Quote from: jon
the wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.

It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.

Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.




multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.
Multi millionaires are upper middle class these days. A million isn't what it used to be.

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 22, 2015, 01:03:47 PM
lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 22, 2015, 02:57:09 PM
i believe there's something wrong when most of the wealth on earth is concentrated among a tiny elite , while the majority of the world lives in poverty. if the luckiest and most privileged among us want to horde their wealth instead of spreading it out to the common person they become a detriment to society.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: KingHillBilly on June 22, 2015, 04:03:37 PM
Why the fuck do you all use this forum instead of the perfectly good 15 year old one?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 22, 2015, 04:09:49 PM
Why the fuck do you all use this forum instead of the perfectly good 15 year old one?

You can embed youtube videos here.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: KingHillBilly on June 22, 2015, 04:11:51 PM
good reason
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 22, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
That one was down for like a month or so and Axo actually wasn't planning to put it back up

I think someone else put it up like Chains or something

Also people can actually make accounts here
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 22, 2015, 04:19:26 PM
yea those forums are horribly out of date and not moderated well. it's not given enough attention to by axo, as seen when it went down for a long time.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 22, 2015, 06:18:13 PM
Quote from: jon
the wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.

It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.

Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.




multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.

A small percentage of them do far far more good than you or I.


No, they don't, because any good they do is outweighed by the net evil of their existence.

I met a couple in 2013 who owns some commercial real estate, which they are leasing out to banks, car dealerships etc. They are worth about 4 million dollars. Based on how our interactions went I was able to learn that they make over $450,000 net a year and donate roughly $350,000 of it to both local and global out-reach programs in their church, but mostly to various non-profits that aren't affiliated to any church/religion. Both are also retired and active volunteers in their community.



Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 22, 2015, 06:46:59 PM
I met a couple in 2013 who owns some commercial real estate, which they are leasing out to banks, car dealerships etc. They are worth about 4 million dollars. Based on how our interactions went I was able to learn that they make over $450,000 net a year and donate roughly $350,000 of it to both local and global out-reach programs in their church, but mostly to various non-profits that aren't affiliated to any church/religion. Both are also retired and active volunteers in their community.

So? Their property should be seized by a worker's state and redistributed for the good of all rather than the whims of some dopey WASP couple that run their local homeowner's association.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 22, 2015, 06:47:59 PM
Durrr, hey, just hung out with the King of France and he seemed like a pretty chill dude. Even helps out the peasants when they're in a bind now and then. What's with all these loud dirty people in the street who want to take his stuff?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 22, 2015, 07:04:10 PM
Well, I just see them doing, or trying to do, good with their money/assets and I think that's awesome. How can we say they're evil?

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 22, 2015, 07:13:59 PM
leasing to banks, the same banks kicking out people from their homes. gulag.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 22, 2015, 07:35:04 PM
Not all banks are portfolio lenders
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 24, 2015, 02:17:33 PM
they donate $350k to a church

cuz church don't pay taxes

great business if u ask me


actually im thinking bout founding my own religion and buy me a house... err i mean, church.. and not pay the gov any tax for it
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 24, 2015, 02:21:03 PM
but yeah, there good billionares.
Quote
It is not every day that a multi-millionaire spends his money to save the planet, instead of investing to make more money. Businessman Mr. Johan Eliasch did just that.

Mr. Eliasch has a long list of achievements under his belt, his main one being Chairman and CEO of the company Head, better known for its Tennis rackets and ski equipment. A banker and film producer, Mr. Eliasch also serves as a Treasurer and Special Advisor to the Shadow Foreign Secretary and is deputy chairman of the Conservative Foundation, in the UK, as well as being a member of the advisory board of the International Peace Foundation, the sports advisory board of the Shimon Peres Peace Foundation, and the advisory board of The Centre for Social Justice.

In March 2006, Mr. Eliasch purchased 400,000 acres of Amazon Rainforest from a wood logging company in Brazil. The land is estimated to have cost £8m pounds sterling (US $14m). His plot is located just north of the Madeira River and 1,600 miles (about 2,590km) northwest of Rio de Janeiro. His environmental beliefs and passion for saving the planet was the main reason for his purchase, saying: “The Amazon is the lung on the world”. Mr. Eliasch will also let scientists use his land to explore and search for undiscovered species.

On a recent interview with Chanel 4, Mr. Eliasch expressed his love for trees and how it is important to preserve them. He continued by saying that - “the Amazon produces 20% of oxygen for the planet, thus it is important to preserve the rainforest”. He encourages others to do the same, stating that the more people buy the forest the less trees would be cut down; he adds that - “the investment was good value as it does something good for the planet; the situation of the trees being cut down is just getting from bad to worse, the greenhouse gases and hurricane activities have a huge connection with the cutting of the rainforest, we must preserve the rainforest to avoid global disasters and distraction”.

I believe that if all multi-millionaires could invest in something so meaningful to help the planet, we would definitely be on the road to recovery. It gives me enormous pleasure to learn that people who have the means to make the world a better place to live in, are in fact doing something about it. Thus noble thinking and noble action is definitely the way forward


http://magazine.godsdirectcontact.net/english/166/bp1.htm (http://magazine.godsdirectcontact.net/english/166/bp1.htm)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 24, 2015, 02:58:48 PM

but yeah, there good billionares.
Quote
It is not every day that a multi-millionaire spends his money to save the planet, instead of investing to make more money. Businessman Mr. Johan Eliasch did just that.

Mr. Eliasch has a long list of achievements under his belt, his main one being Chairman and CEO of the company Head, better known for its Tennis rackets and ski equipment. A banker and film producer, Mr. Eliasch also serves as a Treasurer and Special Advisor to the Shadow Foreign Secretary and is deputy chairman of the Conservative Foundation, in the UK, as well as being a member of the advisory board of the International Peace Foundation, the sports advisory board of the Shimon Peres Peace Foundation, and the advisory board of The Centre for Social Justice.

In March 2006, Mr. Eliasch purchased 400,000 acres of Amazon Rainforest from a wood logging company in Brazil. The land is estimated to have cost £8m pounds sterling (US $14m). His plot is located just north of the Madeira River and 1,600 miles (about 2,590km) northwest of Rio de Janeiro. His environmental beliefs and passion for saving the planet was the main reason for his purchase, saying: “The Amazon is the lung on the world”. Mr. Eliasch will also let scientists use his land to explore and search for undiscovered species.

On a recent interview with Chanel 4, Mr. Eliasch expressed his love for trees and how it is important to preserve them. He continued by saying that - “the Amazon produces 20% of oxygen for the planet, thus it is important to preserve the rainforest”. He encourages others to do the same, stating that the more people buy the forest the less trees would be cut down; he adds that - “the investment was good value as it does something good for the planet; the situation of the trees being cut down is just getting from bad to worse, the greenhouse gases and hurricane activities have a huge connection with the cutting of the rainforest, we must preserve the rainforest to avoid global disasters and distraction”.

I believe that if all multi-millionaires could invest in something so meaningful to help the planet, we would definitely be on the road to recovery. It gives me enormous pleasure to learn that people who have the means to make the world a better place to live in, are in fact doing something about it. Thus noble thinking and noble action is definitely the way forward


[url]http://magazine.godsdirectcontact.net/english/166/bp1.htm[/url] ([url]http://magazine.godsdirectcontact.net/english/166/bp1.htm[/url])


Rofl..."good"

I'd like to see how many "good" billionaires there would be if charitable donations weren't tax deductible.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 24, 2015, 03:12:06 PM
Rofl..."good"

I'd like to see how many "good" billionaires there would be if charitable donations weren't tax deductible.

no idea wtf u talking about or trying to mean... but then again, ur a retard, ive given up trying to rationalize ur posts.. its impossible
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 24, 2015, 03:21:32 PM
Ryu is right
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 24, 2015, 03:23:06 PM
bout what?


he could be... if only he hadnt quoted my post and made a standalone statement, yeah. i would agree then.

he quoted a post where it said about a millionare buying off a part of the amazon rainforest.

where is donation or charity in that action. ? or even tax-avoiding ?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 24, 2015, 03:52:23 PM
Also the people swift was talking about are probably kind good people but they're still practitioners of rentier capitalism, ie they are part of the ownership class who contribute nothing to society and simply extract money from others.  It's the system they exist in and they're doubtless better than a lot of others in this system but it's still unjust and exploitative.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 24, 2015, 03:54:52 PM
bout what?


he could be... if only he hadnt quoted my post and made a standalone statement, yeah. i would agree then.

he quoted a post where it said about a millionare buying off a part of the amazon rainforest.

where is donation or charity in that action. ? or even tax-avoiding ?

What I mean is, a lot of rich people's charities are just vanity projects or random shit that happens to align with their own interests, and a lot of times they wouldn't be doing this charity if they didn't think it helped their own image or if there weren't charitable deductions in their taxes.
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 24, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
bout what?


he could be... if only he hadnt quoted my post and made a standalone statement, yeah. i would agree then.

he quoted a post where it said about a millionare buying off a part of the amazon rainforest.

where is donation or charity in that action. ? or even tax-avoiding ?


What I mean is, a lot of rich people's charities are just vanity projects or random shit that happens to align with their own interests, and a lot of times they wouldn't be doing this charity if they didn't think it helped their own image or if there weren't charitable deductions in their taxes.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 24, 2015, 05:00:05 PM
lol if you have a shred of admiration, respect, or general goodwill towards the rich
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 24, 2015, 05:01:29 PM

lol if you have a shred of admiration, respect, or general goodwill towards the rich

Don't bite the hands that feed YOU


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 24, 2015, 05:05:27 PM

lol if you have a shred of admiration, respect, or general goodwill towards the rich

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ok cool motto.  but we're talking about wealthy people , stay on topic.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 24, 2015, 06:39:36 PM

lol if you have a shred of admiration, respect, or general goodwill towards the rich

Don't bite the hands that feed YOU


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ok cool motto.  but we're talking about wealthy people , stay on topic.

Yessir! Rich people bad, welfare good!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 24, 2015, 07:12:30 PM
no idea what that means, but you = retard
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 24, 2015, 08:30:15 PM
no idea what that means, but you = retard

I know what it means...it means he's a retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 24, 2015, 08:50:01 PM

no idea what that means, but you = retard

I know what it means...it means he's a retard.
no idea what that means, but you = retard

Means so much that you care


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 24, 2015, 09:40:40 PM
Also the people swift was talking about are probably kind good people but they're still practitioners of rentier capitalism, ie they are part of the ownership class who contribute nothing to society and simply extract money from others.  It's the system they exist in and they're doubtless better than a lot of others in this system but it's still unjust and exploitative.

They did not choose this economic system that we live in, and they cannot change it. For all we know, they would if they could. But they can't, so they're instead playing by the design in the system that they cannot alter, and attempting to make real impact in the lives of those less fortunate. That is very noble.

What would be a better course of action for them? What are you doing that is impacting society in a positive way more so than what they do?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 24, 2015, 09:50:43 PM
rich people have the most power to change the system, they're well aware of the poverty it creates. if they aren't regularly advocating for a change, gulag.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 25, 2015, 09:29:52 PM
Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.

"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 25, 2015, 09:32:04 PM
Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.

"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"

So a guy makes his fortune by his work ethic and smarts is "wrong"??...more like lazy welfare dingbats as yourself are the very downfall of society. They are rich because people like you are retarded, not their fault they know how to take advantage of the system.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 25, 2015, 09:41:11 PM
are you advocating for the exploitation of labour you retarded gimp?
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 25, 2015, 09:53:03 PM
are you advocating for the exploitation of labour you retarded gimp?

No but if a person has the intelligence to earn his own fortune, I wouldn't blame the person but the exploitable system that allowed them to attain it.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 25, 2015, 10:05:49 PM
you wouldn't blame your excessively and undeservingly wealthy boss dropped your wages to not even a fraction of what your labour produces in order to enrich himself?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 25, 2015, 10:10:33 PM

you wouldn't blame your excessively and undeservingly wealthy boss dropped your wages to not even a fraction of what your labour produces in order to enrich himself?

Sure I would, but in your scenario i wouldn't consider my boss as "smart"


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 25, 2015, 10:13:42 PM
Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.

"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"

If an individual cannot change the economic system he is in, then what should he do? Remain poor and help few to none, or obtain some market share/wealth so that he can make a far bigger impact on the lives of others?

It's fair to say that most rich are in the wrong. But there are also exceptions to the rule, in my opinion. Entrepreneurs that are philanthropists, giving away the vast majority of their wealth, who take career and financial risks to build empires to put food on the table for their family and also for the good of their community. And the type who does this from the ground up doesn't always get the luxury of getting off work at 5 P.M like the poor and middle class.

Meanwhile, the poor/middle class, what do they do? They typically work for an established company, and effectively taking a much more reasonable and fair share than the evil/greedy rich do. But they get the luxury of getting off work at 5. Then what do they do? Go watch the game? Take their family out to eat? Do they help anyone? Some do, most probably not. Maybe a minority of them tithe, or maybe they give a homeless man money here and there. Some do, I bet most don't. But even those who do an occasional good deed, for the most part - it's mostly few and far between and it makes a small impact relative to the millionaire philanthropist who gives away the majority of what he has, and makes great change.

Philanthropists (whether rich or not) > the poor/middle class > the rest of the rich (greedy/selfish/evil).

And just to clarify, I am not talking about the ones who give away a minuscule amount (example celebrities worth 100 million+, giving away an occasional million) - that's greedy, wrong and in my eyes they're not true philanthropists at all.


 
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 25, 2015, 10:17:40 PM

you wouldn't blame your excessively and undeservingly wealthy boss dropped your wages to not even a fraction of what your labour produces in order to enrich himself?

Sure I would, but in your scenario i wouldn't consider my boss as "smart"


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that's how wealthy people get wealthy, gimp. exploitation. there's no honest way to make a billion.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 25, 2015, 10:20:50 PM
Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.

"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"

So a guy makes his fortune by his work ethic and smarts is "wrong"??...more like lazy welfare dingbats as yourself are the very downfall of society. They are rich because people like you are retarded, not their fault they know how to take advantage of the system.


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You're really fucking stupid.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 25, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
And the type who does this from the ground up doesn't always get the luxury of getting off work at 5 P.M like the poor and middle class.

lol this shows how insanely ignorant you are. the ownership class are the idle class, that's the benefit of owning property. "the poor" are the people making your clothes in bangladesh and shit, you think they get the luxury of going home at 5?

Meanwhile, the poor/middle class, what do they do? They typically work for an established company, and effectively taking a much more reasonable and fair share than the evil/greedy rich do. But they get the luxury of getting off work at 5. Then what do they do? Go watch the game? Take their family out to eat? Do they help anyone? Some do, most probably not. Maybe a minority of them tithe, or maybe they give a homeless man money here and there. Some do, I bet most don't. But even those who do an occasional good deed, for the most part - it's mostly few and far between and it makes a small impact relative to the millionaire philanthropist who gives away the majority of what he has, and makes great change.

Lol. These people also run the governments and the corporations that back dictators, start wars, fund genocides, deprive millions of essential things like medicine and food for profit, they are the pillars of the global imperial holocaust. Aw but they give a million bucks to cancer research or whatever? You're gullible and/or chauvinistic as fuck.

"Philanthropists" are basically the capitalist equivalent of the charitable lord or bishop in the Middle Ages.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 25, 2015, 10:27:50 PM
If anyone said that "aw they are so charitable and benevolent to us lowly peasants, we should thank them for the crumbs they give us" bullshit about nobles and aristocrats it would be absurd in a developed country in 2015 but because its capitalists millions of dupes like swift lap it up.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 25, 2015, 10:38:40 PM
It only shows me to be ignorant if you interpret wrong.
1. I am not talking about the rich who sit back and enjoy their wealth and provide nothing. There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.
2. I am not talking about people exploited outside of this country. I am also not defending those who exploit them. Your average american doesn't work two jobs and 10+ hours a day, though many do and none should.

Also I don't know who you're referring to when you say "these people". The types I am talking about do not fund genocides, or back evil dictators.

I am also not talking about the same type of "philanthropist" you're describing. I clarified this already. I am talking about ones who give give the vast majority away, not the greedy/evil types you're describing.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 25, 2015, 10:48:54 PM
If anyone said that "aw they are so charitable and benevolent to us lowly peasants, we should thank them for the crumbs they give us" bullshit about nobles and aristocrats it would be absurd in a developed country in 2015 but because its capitalists millions of dupes like swift lap it up.

You aren't following what I am saying.

Here's another example: There's a four squares pastor here in Oregon who is worth around 20 million in real estate and was offered over 100k salary for head pastor position at his church. I have a few friends who do ministry in the same church, and apparently he turned down the 100k salary and instead takes 1 dollar/yr, and his real estate produces net cash flow of over 1 million, of which he collects somewhere around 60-80k and donates the rest.

Thoughts on this particular example? And also, please do not compare this type of rich folk to the "aw but they give a million bucks to cancer research or whatever", because they're night and day different, and I am clearly talking about the truly far more generous one. The pastor is a true philanthropist, the other is a phony.

 
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 25, 2015, 10:51:17 PM
There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.


no. these people who "build empires" literally do not exist. give me an example and i'll point you a large group of exploited people.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 25, 2015, 10:58:56 PM
Oh and also, after this pastor built his fortune in commercial real estate (strip malls and such), he actually built a ~250 unit apartment complex and has every single unit under rented by roughly 20% of market value, which equates to my guess about 200 a door, and over $600,000 in savings past on to his tenants. Whats killer is, if he has a loan on it (I don't know if he does), then you can almost guarantee his total profit on this whole thing is either right around break even, or in the negative. Research average Capitalization Rates for commercial multi-family's in Oregon and you can conclude the same yourself.

Also: There's no way this guy sits idle, sorry GN. An accumulation of that much passive income real estate, and even 1/10th as much is essentially a full time job to manage (with property management included.)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 25, 2015, 10:59:13 PM

Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.

"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"

So a guy makes his fortune by his work ethic and smarts is "wrong"??...more like lazy welfare dingbats as yourself are the very downfall of society. They are rich because people like you are retarded, not their fault they know how to take advantage of the system.


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You're really fucking stupid.

Your just to dumb to understand logic.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 25, 2015, 11:00:00 PM
This thread should retitled welfare kids rage for being poor.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 25, 2015, 11:08:30 PM
There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.


no. these people who "build empires" literally do not exist. give me an example and i'll point you a large group of exploited people.



Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.

I can all but guarantee that, if we stick with real estate examples, that some investors start out working a normal job and just save up. After a few years they buy their first single-family residence. Then after another year or two of saving + cash flow from first rental, they buy a second, then another year later they buy a duplex with more saved up money + cash flow from the two rentals, then six months later they buy a four plex, then six months later they trade up the four-plex to a 12 plex.

20-30 years later they have a large portfolio where they provide competitive rents, and in our example, we're talking about the GOOD rich folk, who are few and far between, they proceed to donate the vast majority.

so, where would the exploitation be?

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 07:37:27 AM
1. I am not talking about the rich who sit back and enjoy their wealth and provide nothing. There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.

That's a propaganda myth. No one builds a capitalist empire without doing so off the backs of others.

2. I am not talking about people exploited outside of this country. I am also not defending those who exploit them.

Yes you are, you're defending the rich and the American bourgeois and middle classes, those are the primary exploiters of those people.

Also I don't know who you're referring to when you say "these people". The types I am talking about do not fund genocides, or back evil dictators.

You mean they don't vote for or donate to Republican and Democratic political campaigns?

I am also not talking about the same type of "philanthropist" you're describing. I clarified this already. I am talking about ones who give give the vast majority away, not the greedy/evil types you're describing.

They don't exist.

You aren't following what I am saying.

Here's another example: There's a four squares pastor here in Oregon who is worth around 20 million in real estate and was offered over 100k salary for head pastor position at his church. I have a few friends who do ministry in the same church, and apparently he turned down the 100k salary and instead takes 1 dollar/yr, and his real estate produces net cash flow of over 1 million, of which he collects somewhere around 60-80k and donates the rest.

Thoughts on this particular example?

He practices parasitic, exploitative rentier capitalism and that's the only reason he's allowed to engage in the "charity" of refusing a salary?

And also, please do not compare this type of rich folk to the "aw but they give a million bucks to cancer research or whatever", because they're night and day different, and I am clearly talking about the truly far more generous one. The pastor is a true philanthropist, the other is a phony.

 

Gullible as fuck.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 07:38:20 AM
Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.

lmfao. "well no, i don't have any evidence, but if you use your imagination, i think you'll see its possible to conceive of a universe where i'm right"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 26, 2015, 10:12:58 AM
There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.


no. these people who "build empires" literally do not exist. give me an example and i'll point you a large group of exploited people.



Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.

I can all but guarantee that, if we stick with real estate examples, that some investors start out working a normal job and just save up. After a few years they buy their first single-family residence. Then after another year or two of saving + cash flow from first rental, they buy a second, then another year later they buy a duplex with more saved up money + cash flow from the two rentals, then six months later they buy a four plex, then six months later they trade up the four-plex to a 12 plex.

20-30 years later they have a large portfolio where they provide competitive rents, and in our example, we're talking about the GOOD rich folk, who are few and far between, they proceed to donate the vast majority.

so, where would the exploitation be?




so they're landlords? the most disgusting exploitation there is.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 26, 2015, 12:03:11 PM

There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.


no. these people who "build empires" literally do not exist. give me an example and i'll point you a large group of exploited people.



Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.

I can all but guarantee that, if we stick with real estate examples, that some investors start out working a normal job and just save up. After a few years they buy their first single-family residence. Then after another year or two of saving + cash flow from first rental, they buy a second, then another year later they buy a duplex with more saved up money + cash flow from the two rentals, then six months later they buy a four plex, then six months later they trade up the four-plex to a 12 plex.

20-30 years later they have a large portfolio where they provide competitive rents, and in our example, we're talking about the GOOD rich folk, who are few and far between, they proceed to donate the vast majority.

so, where would the exploitation be?




so they're landlords? the most disgusting exploitation there is.

If they kept it for themselves, sure.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 12:04:28 PM
Even the people you are describing as "good capitalists" keep most of their earnings for themselves, if they didn't they would not be wealthy.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 26, 2015, 12:05:13 PM
This just in: capitalism rules!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 12:06:03 PM
This just in: capitalism rules!

Rules at destroying the planet, and human dignity.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 26, 2015, 12:30:23 PM
Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.

lmfao. "well no, i don't have any evidence, but if you use your imagination, i think you'll see its possible to conceive of a universe where i'm right"

That might apply, if my example weren't something that obviously happens frequently across the country. biggerpockets.com forum is full of hundreds, if not thousands of people who fit the exact example I provided. My other examples were of people I know/met in real life though.

Anyhow, if a person were to build up a rental portfolio off of a combination of funds from full time job + bank loans + build up of cash flow as he acquire more and more rentals + refinancing and then went and proceeded to donate the vast majority of his earnings year after year leaving him with a self paid salary well under 100k/yr then he is doing something good. You can sit back and talk about Marxist ideals and "what type of economy we should have" and you would be right, but realize that all the exploitation you're wanting to prevent/stop is very real, and there are a lot of people hurting/suffering from it. The easiest way to help them right now is to utilize the current system itself, in order to help people instead of exploit them. And that is exactly what the person in the example I just used is doing - they aren't just talking about it while doing nothing to change it like people on this forum. 
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 26, 2015, 12:40:26 PM
Even the people you are describing as "good capitalists" keep most of their earnings for themselves, if they didn't they would not be wealthy.

Assuming my examples aren't related to leverage investments (buy and hold real estate), which they are, then you would be absolutely correct. I can go and buy a 10 million dollar apartment complex if I find the right couple to seller finance it with a small down. That complex will then slowly pay for itself, and I would not have had to put any of my cash flow/earnings to pay off the mortgage. After 10-30 years (or whatever the length of the loan is), I would own that complex out right and be worth whatever it's market value is at that time.

Even if we were using other examples though, where leverage isn't at play in order to acquire wealth, yes more often than not it takes money to make money. So on one's adventure to build a capitalist empire for good, he will have to save for a while in order to reinvest it so that he can build up a business that produces a "sufficient" amount of returns to fund whatever cause he plans to.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
Anyhow, if a person were to build up a rental portfolio off of a combination of funds from full time job + bank loans + build up of cash flow as he acquire more and more rentals + refinancing and then went and proceeded to donate the vast majority of his earnings year after year leaving him with a self paid salary well under 100k/yr then he is doing something good.

No he's not? He's growing rich off exploiting others through rent-seeking.

You can sit back and talk about Marxist ideals and "what type of economy we should have" and you would be right, but realize that all the exploitation you're wanting to prevent/stop is very real, and there are a lot of people hurting/suffering from it. The easiest way to help them right now is to utilize the current system itself, in order to help people instead of exploit them.

That's impossible to do, the current system is incapable of solving the problem on exploitation because exploitation is an integral part of the current system and any accumulation of wealth that takes place within it. It's not about "Marxist ideals" because I am not speaking in terms of ideals, I am speaking on how society is actually constructed and functions on a material basis. You are the one who is the idealist, ignoring the material reality of exploitation so you can wax poetic about how some rich people do good because they donate a meager percentage of their ill gotten wealth to "good causes."

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 12:54:00 PM
Even the people you are describing as "good capitalists" keep most of their earnings for themselves, if they didn't they would not be wealthy.

Assuming my examples aren't related to leverage investments (buy and hold real estate), which they are, then you would be absolutely correct. I can go and buy a 10 million dollar apartment complex if I find the right couple to seller finance it with a small down. That complex will then slowly pay for itself, and I would not have had to put any of my cash flow/earnings to pay off the mortgage. After 10-30 years (or whatever the length of the loan is), I would own that complex out right and be worth whatever it's market value is at that time.

Even if we were using other examples though, where leverage isn't at play in order to acquire wealth, yes more often than not it takes money to make money. So on one's adventure to build a capitalist empire for good, he will have to save for a while in order to reinvest it so that he can build up a business that produces a "sufficient" amount of returns to fund whatever cause he plans to.

Yes and the only way to generate that wealth under capitalism is through exploitation. This is what you don't understand, there is no just and equitable way to be wealthy under capitalism.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 26, 2015, 01:29:01 PM
"No he's not? He's growing rich off exploiting others through rent-seeking."


Again, if it were possible to change the system anytime soon, then yeah lets focus on that. Capitalism is disgusting.

But it happens to be quite popular these days, and although that can likely change it won't anytime soon.

So we can sit idle and do nothing, and you and I can continue to sit back and contribute to the exploitation ourselves, as we do, or we can find ways to utilize the system to benefit others.

So you say hes growing rich - but I say hes giving almost all of it away and keeping <100k for his family. So his riches are really for others, and the rest is to allow him to live comfortably but not excessively. But ohhh, so what if hes giving it away, it doesn't matter because he only got it through exploiting renters. Yeah what a travesty, american's renters have it sooo bad. I can't believe they're being skinned alive by their landlords for an extra $50-250 a month so that he can help those over privileged $2 a day earners in third world countries.

Again if you can change it, change it - but we can't. So we can talk about fairy tales, or we can do something practical to make it happen.

And yes, in the long run my idea doesn't fix the issue. It will allow the system to perpetuate due to the majority of rich being evil and also the very nature of capitalism itself. At best it's a glorified bandaid to a much bigger problem, but a much needed bandaid (cuz people's suffering is real), until real change occurs and capitalism in finally thrown in the trash can of terrible ideas - if it ever happens.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 26, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
A landlord is like the worst example you can use of a good capitalist... even if they're donating their income, they're just taking that wealth from one set of people and then redistributing it
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 26, 2015, 03:38:07 PM
Blid - I don't know why I choose to describe discounted rents as "competitive rents" as  I guess that could be construed as near market value OR below and I am only talking about below market, as referenced in my second example.

So as another example, say the market rents in an area are $600, and said landlord charges tenants $500 - and then everything else remains the same as in my examples. (Note, in my second example - the pastor under rents all of his units by 20%)

So now not only is he doing good deeds with any excess profits, he is also providing discount housing to people that was not otherwise available to them.

So he is doing all this good, and then bringing in a comfortable wage for his family.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 03:46:45 PM
So he is doing all this good, and then bringing in a comfortable wage for his family.

Lmfao. If you're not trolling you are insanely stupid.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 26, 2015, 03:51:19 PM
You act like it's not a job and that your typical landlord just sits around collecting checks. That couldn't be further from the truth.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 03:53:28 PM
You act like it's not a job and that your typical landlord just sits around collecting checks. That couldn't be further from the truth.



They essentially do. Any services they provide for the tenant are only provided to the extent that they produce a profit. Renting property to people and collecting money in return is not an act of charity you retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 26, 2015, 04:04:40 PM
You are taking my argument, the exception, and consistently throwing it in with the rule so that you have a mountable defense. It's easy to take out the key components to someones argument (below market rents + excess profits to good causes + understanding that this act is a temporary treatment to some of the immediately hurting people while capitalism exists) and then shut them down.

You're essentially saying

"Donates the excess wealth + provides greatly discounted housing + Makes a reasonable/fair amount while doing so = worse than living for yourself and helping nobody and effectively making around the same amount of money."

Yeah, I am the insanely stupid one, right...

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
You are taking my argument, the exception, and consistently throwing it in with the rule so that you have a mountable defense.

No I'm not, all the examples you're using are people who make a profit through exploitation, even the good ones do. If you want to make an example of someone who makes a large amount of money and then literally gives so much away to the point that they cannot be considered wealthy, that is 1) not how wealthy people in the real world actually behave and 2) irrelevant because then they wouldn't be wealthy anyway.

Your "exception" is also not even substantiated to exist in the real world. When asked for evidence, you said you did not have any, and asked us to use our "imagination." This says much about how much of your argument is based on actual real world circumstances.

It's easy to take out the key components to someones argument (below market rents

What does "Below market" mean in this example specifically? Are they still profitable, just below the market rate? Or are they actually taking a loss on the rent? If they are taking a loss, aren't they less a "landlord" or capitalist and more of a charitable organization? If they are still profitable, nothing about my argument changes: This individual produces a profit through exploitation. The fact that some portion of that profit goes to what you consider a "good cause" (not even getting into whether what you consider a "good cause" actually is such) does not change the fact of the exploitation used to obtain it. If I am a Southern plantation owner who owns hundreds of slaves and I donate 30%, 50%, even 90% of the profit I make to local charitable organizations, it does not change the fact that I am a slaveholder.

+ excess profits to good causes

"Excess profits" meaning what, exactly? Are you implying this hypothetical landlord only keeps the bare minimum he needs to live for himself, while donating the rest? I find that somewhat hard to believe. Does "excess profits" just mean he keeps enough profit to afford a typical bourgeois or petit-bourgeois standard of living? In the latter case, the person is living lavishly off of exploitation, the fact that they could live even more lavishly if they were an even bigger piece of shit is not a point in their favor.

Also, charity is not even a "good cause" necessarily. Without getting into the problems of specific charities or typical administrative problems with corruption and such, alleviating social ills through charity is a smokescreen that allows people to say charity is the best solution, or at least an adequate solution, and that the huge social reforms needed to bring about a just society are not actually needed.

+ understanding that this act is a temporary treatment to some of the immediately hurting people while capitalism exists)

It is? Why? What are these people doing to bring about the end of capitalism? Nothing, they're perpetuating it.

"Donates the excess wealth + provides greatly discounted housing + Makes a reasonable/fair amount while doing so = worse than living for yourself and helping nobody and effectively making around the same amount of money."

You left out the exploitation part. To go back to the slaveholder example, using your logic, a slaveholder who donates wealth to charitable organizations is a better person than me for the charity that he or she does. The exploitation, whether it is the exploitation of wage labor or slavery, does not seem to factor in for you when determining the moral worth of a person. Well, it probably would for slavery, because you have been conditioned and indoctrinated to see slavery as bad (accurately), just as you have been conditioned and indoctrinated to see capitalist exploitation as, at worst, not nearly as bad as slavery and generally socially acceptable, and at best, desirable.

Yeah, I am the insanely stupid one, right...

Yes, right, you half assed wannabe intellectual retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on June 26, 2015, 04:53:36 PM
You say they're exploiting to some extent, as if every job isn't, probably including yours, exploiting someone somehow. The question is how excessive is it, and in the case of my example it's extremely minimal.

Also, I never made an example that suggests they give so much away they aren't wealthy. They are wealthy because the good will means of production or land that they own, is worth a substantial amount on the open market to your typical rich folk. For example, the real estate examples where they give away 90% of what they make, yes if that were the end of the story they wouldn't be wealthy, but it's not. The real estate that they own is worth tens of millions. So obviously in this case you're wrong, as you're not considering that someone can give away the vast majority of their income, while still retaining most of their assets (making them wealthy), to continue generating more income to give away.

I notice that you're twisting my words. I previously clarified that when I said I don't have any real life examples, I was saying I don't PERSONALLY know the stories of anyone in how they acquired their initial capital, and then I provided plenty of non-personal examples on a web, a website that has hundreds if not thousand examples of how people acquired their wealth - and almost every single one involves the exact example I gave.

So yeah, go to the website I mentioned - literally hundreds (at minimum) of examples for you.

As for if they're profitable or not, yes, they are. So you say they exploit people by providing discounted rents + giving away the excess + working to manage the real estate, yet you haven't clarified where the exploitation is in excess to your average 9-5 job.

Of course they're going to make a profit, they need to survive - and they are providing a service. They're effectively managing housing at this point and thats a job. If they didn't make 40-80k (depending what part of country you are in), they wouldn't be able to provide for their family.

Giving away "excess profits" means they're giving away enough to the point where their income is at or around average for their market after all donations - this obviously varies by area.

This isn't a hypothetical example, the pastor I mentioned is a real person who does such. it's not known to his congregation, but everyone a part of the churches staff/ministry is well aware that he pastors for $1/yr and donates so much of the profits from his real estate income that he ends up bringing home less than the average family does in his city.

And yes, I understand that it's very important to decide where you put your money, and that "charity" isn't always the right course of action or a good cause. But we aren't talking about that aspect.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 26, 2015, 04:54:26 PM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 26, 2015, 05:24:29 PM
You say they're exploiting to some extent, as if every job isn't, probably including yours, exploiting someone somehow. The question is how excessive is it, and in the case of my example it's extremely minimal.

No it's not. They literally make their livelihood from exploitation. Charity doesn't nullifly exploitation, exploitation and charity are not matter and antimatter. While I myself am the beneficiary of exploitation of various sorts, for example, the exploitation of the workers who produce cheap products for me and other first worlders, I do not make a living through exploiting others. In fact, I am exploited by my employer and my livelihood comes from the wage I am given by my employer, which is a small fraction of the actual value I produce for said employer.

Also, I never made an example that suggests they give so much away they aren't wealthy. They are wealthy because the good will means of production or land that they own, is worth a substantial amount on the open market to your typical rich folk.

That's what I thought, I was bringing up "so much to charity they are no longer to wealthy" because that is the only way the situation you are describing can even come close to not being exploitative, and even then it probably would be. But it's a nonsense scenario so discussing it does not matter. In this situation, these people make an excessive amount of wealth, more than the majority of people who have lived on the planet throughout history, the vast vast majority, could never even dream of obtaining a fraction of themselves. But they are good people because a small fraction of that goes to a "good cause" while they continue to live better than even the most decadent monarchs of past eras? Insanely stupid.

I notice that you're twisting my words. I previously clarified that when I said I don't have any real life examples, I was saying I don't PERSONALLY know the stories of anyone in how they acquired their initial capital, and then I provided plenty of non-personal examples on a web, a website that has hundreds if not thousand examples of how people acquired their wealth - and almost every single one involves the exact example I gave.

Lol yeah let me go to some propaganda site for rich people to have your point proven to me. Not that it matters - my argument applies equally to all these people, down to the most ultra-charitable example you can find. You lack a basic understanding of exploitation and how capitalism functions.

As for if they're profitable or not, yes, they are. So you say they exploit people by providing discounted rents + giving away the excess + working to manage the real estate, yet you haven't clarified where the exploitation is in excess to your average 9-5 job.

Because they use their control of property to profit off of people's need for shelter. The necessity of shelter is withheld from individuals simply because they cannot pay, not because the shelter is not available to them. That is exploitation.

Of course they're going to make a profit, they need to survive - and they are providing a service. They're effectively managing housing at this point and thats a job. If they didn't make 40-80k (depending what part of country you are in), they wouldn't be able to provide for their family.

Yeah all those landlords who make millions and give it all away except for 40-80k a year. Lmfao.

Also, you just admitted this is not charity, it is solely an act driven by profit. Moreover, again, an essential life need is withheld for the pursuit of profit. This is exploitation. If you were starving and I had an abundance of food and you had no money, and I made you pay me for bread, you would think this is a moral outrage. But because you are indoctrinated in the logic of liberal capitalism, you find it acceptable in the macro sense.

Giving away "excess profits" means they're giving away enough to the point where their income is at or around average for their market after all donations - this obviously varies by area.

40k-80k is "around average?" Compared to what? Lmfao. How many people in China do you think make 40k? Oh yeah, you're just talking about the US, as if you can meaningfully separate the two in a global capitalist system.

This isn't a hypothetical example, the pastor I mentioned is a real person who does such. it's not known to his congregation, but everyone a part of the churches staff/ministry is well aware that he pastors for $1/yr and donates so much of the profits from his real estate income that he ends up bringing home less than the average family does in his city.

I don't believe you, and even if you were right, he's still a rent seeking parasite.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: mwperk01 on July 02, 2015, 04:39:43 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 02, 2015, 04:42:00 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.

You're retarded.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: mwperk01 on July 02, 2015, 04:44:11 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.

You're retarded.
so you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 02, 2015, 04:45:29 PM
Yeah, there's no way I can think of a counter argument to "poor people just don't want to work," it couldn't possibly be you're too much of an idiot to be worth the time.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 02, 2015, 04:46:56 PM
"Capitalism is a system based off of free trade" lol what the fuck is this fucking nonsense, you can't define a system by using propaganda terms that only make sense within that system
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 02, 2015, 04:49:15 PM
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Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 02, 2015, 04:50:55 PM
Nazism's basis of antisemitism and eternal war goes with fascist ideals of securing a future for white children.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: mwperk01 on July 02, 2015, 04:53:08 PM
Yeah, there's no way I can think of a counter argument to "poor people just don't want to work," it couldn't possibly be you're too much of an idiot to be worth the time.
Not all poor people are like that and if that is what you got from my statement it is not what i meant what i mean is there are poor people who refuse to get a job because their lazy or they think the world owes them something. there are also poor people who are unable to work or who work and Don't have enough income. The point i was trying to make is that capitalism is flawed but it does not demonize poor people as the op said.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: mwperk01 on July 02, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
and if anyone does feel my argument flawed I would appreciate feedback that is not simply stuff like I'm retarded
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 02, 2015, 05:04:13 PM

exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.

You're retarded.
so you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?

He does that a lot, glad you see it also


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 02, 2015, 05:05:12 PM

Yeah, there's no way I can think of a counter argument to "poor people just don't want to work," it couldn't possibly be you're too much of an idiot to be worth the time.

Right...this coming from the welfare junky...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: mwperk01 on July 02, 2015, 05:22:42 PM

exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.

You're retarded.
so you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?

He does that a lot, glad you see it also


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I have seen lots of people that argue like that I would much rather prefer feedback that proves I am wrong or at least is an attempt at a logical response
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 02, 2015, 05:26:24 PM
Yeah, there's no way I can think of a counter argument to "poor people just don't want to work," it couldn't possibly be you're too much of an idiot to be worth the time.
Not all poor people are like that and if that is what you got from my statement it is not what i meant what i mean is there are poor people who refuse to get a job because their lazy or they think the world owes them something. there are also poor people who are unable to work or who work and Don't have enough income. The point i was trying to make is that capitalism is flawed but it does not demonize poor people as the op said.

nope. you just have a hypothetical, propagandized idea of poor people and it makes no sense.

poor person:" i'm going to live in poverty simply cause i'm too lazy to work."

ridiculous. like most poor people don't already have a job.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 02, 2015, 05:29:20 PM

exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.

You're retarded.
so you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?

He does that a lot, glad you see it also


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I have seen lots of people that argue like that I would much rather prefer feedback that proves I am wrong or at least is an attempt at a logical response

you argue nonsense, like nothing of what you said has basis in reality.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 02, 2015, 05:34:29 PM


exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.

You're retarded.
so you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?

He does that a lot, glad you see it also


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I have seen lots of people that argue like that I would much rather prefer feedback that proves I am wrong or at least is an attempt at a logical response

you argue nonsense, like nothing of what you said has basis in reality.

And your logic has? Pfft.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: mwperk01 on July 02, 2015, 05:37:12 PM
I will restate my previous post. If you feel I am wrong provide evidence of this otherwise just saying I'm wrong will not change my view no matter how much you say it
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 02, 2015, 05:42:56 PM
you changing your opinion is not relevant to anything. you don't even have an opinion, you just parrot pro-capitalist nonsense you've heard from other filthy bougeious scum.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: mwperk01 on July 02, 2015, 05:45:40 PM
you changing your opinion is not relevant to anything. you don't even have an opinion, you just parrot pro-capitalist nonsense you've heard from other filthy bougeious scum.
my opinion is that capitalism is not so evil as you make it out to be. and tell me what sort of economic system would you suggest be in place of capitalism anyway
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 02, 2015, 07:14:06 PM
my opinion is that capitalism is not so evil as you make it out to be. and tell me what sort of economic system would you suggest be in place of capitalism anyway

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Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 02, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
you changing your opinion is not relevant to anything. you don't even have an opinion, you just parrot pro-capitalist nonsense you've heard from other filthy bougeious scum.

Welfare swine#2


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 06, 2015, 04:23:45 PM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 10, 2015, 10:39:30 AM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 13, 2015, 12:12:24 AM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 14, 2015, 11:00:04 PM
You say they're exploiting to some extent, as if every job isn't, probably including yours, exploiting someone somehow. The question is how excessive is it, and in the case of my example it's extremely minimal.

No it's not. They literally make their livelihood from exploitation. Charity doesn't nullifly exploitation, exploitation and charity are not matter and antimatter. While I myself am the beneficiary of exploitation of various sorts, for example, the exploitation of the workers who produce cheap products for me and other first worlders, I do not make a living through exploiting others. In fact, I am exploited by my employer and my livelihood comes from the wage I am given by my employer, which is a small fraction of the actual value I produce for said employer.

Also, I never made an example that suggests they give so much away they aren't wealthy. They are wealthy because the good will means of production or land that they own, is worth a substantial amount on the open market to your typical rich folk.

That's what I thought, I was bringing up "so much to charity they are no longer to wealthy" because that is the only way the situation you are describing can even come close to not being exploitative, and even then it probably would be. But it's a nonsense scenario so discussing it does not matter. In this situation, these people make an excessive amount of wealth, more than the majority of people who have lived on the planet throughout history, the vast vast majority, could never even dream of obtaining a fraction of themselves. But they are good people because a small fraction of that goes to a "good cause" while they continue to live better than even the most decadent monarchs of past eras? Insanely stupid.

I notice that you're twisting my words. I previously clarified that when I said I don't have any real life examples, I was saying I don't PERSONALLY know the stories of anyone in how they acquired their initial capital, and then I provided plenty of non-personal examples on a web, a website that has hundreds if not thousand examples of how people acquired their wealth - and almost every single one involves the exact example I gave.

Lol yeah let me go to some propaganda site for rich people to have your point proven to me. Not that it matters - my argument applies equally to all these people, down to the most ultra-charitable example you can find. You lack a basic understanding of exploitation and how capitalism functions.

As for if they're profitable or not, yes, they are. So you say they exploit people by providing discounted rents + giving away the excess + working to manage the real estate, yet you haven't clarified where the exploitation is in excess to your average 9-5 job.

Because they use their control of property to profit off of people's need for shelter. The necessity of shelter is withheld from individuals simply because they cannot pay, not because the shelter is not available to them. That is exploitation.

Of course they're going to make a profit, they need to survive - and they are providing a service. They're effectively managing housing at this point and thats a job. If they didn't make 40-80k (depending what part of country you are in), they wouldn't be able to provide for their family.

Yeah all those landlords who make millions and give it all away except for 40-80k a year. Lmfao.

Also, you just admitted this is not charity, it is solely an act driven by profit. Moreover, again, an essential life need is withheld for the pursuit of profit. This is exploitation. If you were starving and I had an abundance of food and you had no money, and I made you pay me for bread, you would think this is a moral outrage. But because you are indoctrinated in the logic of liberal capitalism, you find it acceptable in the macro sense.

Giving away "excess profits" means they're giving away enough to the point where their income is at or around average for their market after all donations - this obviously varies by area.

40k-80k is "around average?" Compared to what? Lmfao. How many people in China do you think make 40k? Oh yeah, you're just talking about the US, as if you can meaningfully separate the two in a global capitalist system.

This isn't a hypothetical example, the pastor I mentioned is a real person who does such. it's not known to his congregation, but everyone a part of the churches staff/ministry is well aware that he pastors for $1/yr and donates so much of the profits from his real estate income that he ends up bringing home less than the average family does in his city.

I don't believe you, and even if you were right, he's still a rent seeking parasite.

GN - I don't understand what you're trying to argue with me about. We actually agree on almost everything. But you bringing up that the average world income < average us income, or bringing up that biggerpockets.com is full of propaganda doesn't combat or even address the points I was actually trying to make. Also, everytime I provide an example about someone who gives away the vast majority of their profits, or I mention that they have lots of $/capital investments to produce such profits (which is essential in almost every vocation in a capitalist society, thus my examples wouldn't even work without it), you then interpret it as "ohh scumbag who gives away a small portion of his profits," which is clearly not what I am saying.

As for everything else, you basically just talked about how rent seeking is exploitation. I don't disagree. You also keep suggesting I don't understand capitalism on a macro level or how it functions in general. There's no where you can derive such without continuing to misinterpret what I am saying.


also whether you believe that example or not is irrelevant. my whole point is not about trying to prove that such characters exist.

At the end of the day, we basically see eye to eye on everything except maybe this one thing - I am okay with a capitalist who focuses on driving profits so long as they give the VAST MAJORITY of it back. I rented for years, and although I was exploited for profits, my life was awesome and I had everything I needed + 100x that. So, If I had a landlord who provided me housing and then gave away a huge chunk of his profits to appropriate causes, then I would be very ok with that. I understand as a whole that this doesn't help to fix the problem at large, which is to kill off capitalism. But because capitalism isn't going anywhere soon, then I basically see this as a necessary evil. Obviously I am speaking very generally, and if I took many other things into account such as certain landlords who provide housing to very low income individuals and suck them dry, then I would look at these cases very different. Like I said though, my life as a renter was more than great, and so for every renter that lived by the means that I did when I rented, I am ok with a capitalist taking money from them to give to the people who are truly suffering. I'm very okay with that.

If you disagree with this, that's fine - I am definitely not going to argue it though. I am under the impression that you're more concerned with discussing/arguing/contemplating such topics, as opposed to proactively doing something to help those. Perhaps I am wrong though, I don't know you. You just seem to get off being an asshole, and arguing about it. As for myself, I aspire to be like the people in the examples I provided, and I aspire and continue to strive to be big apart of new and established nonprofit organizations that go out and help those who going through very real pains due to the lack of necessities such as food, medicine, shelter, etc. If it makes me a bad person because I am exploiting those with such first world problems like having to rent properties that have ac, heating, clean carpets, multiple bathrooms and running water (hot, warm & cold) so that I can use that money to provide to people going through much worse, then so be it. I am okay with that opinion, and I respect it. Unfortunately, I don't know a better way.

What I don't get is why you stand behind such noble causes, but yet come across as an asshole who tries to abuse and harass people who you feel to be beneath you in virtue/ideals/beliefs/intellect, etc. You appear to be a pretty smart person, if your character matched your values then you seem like a person who could do a lot of good, and probably find a way to do it without hurting others too much if at all. But maybe you already are doing such, what do I know.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 14, 2015, 11:22:40 PM
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At the end of the day, we basically see eye to eye on everything except maybe this one thing - I am okay with a capitalist who focuses on driving profits so long as they give the VAST MAJORITY of it back.

he wouldn't be a capitalist anymore if he did that. because that idea of giving profits back to the labour is  completely contradictory  to capitalist ideology.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 14, 2015, 11:28:17 PM
That's a good point, although arguable depending on a few variables.

Are you considering that although he may not be a capitalist from the income perspective, he is in the sense that he owns/controls the land/industry/means of production that afford him that income, which is like 5-10-20x in valuewhat he makes per year?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 15, 2015, 09:14:55 AM
jon is right. a capitalist can't just give away the vast majority of their profit, because profit is required to maintain a capitalist enterprise. if your organization doesn't make a profit, or if it does make a profit but invests the majority of the profit outside of the actual organization, then it ceases to function and maintain itself as a capitalist enterprise and becomes a charity or nonprofit of some kind. which is still beholden to capitalist markets and politics in dispensing its services, so its not a complete break from capitalism anyway

That's a good point, although arguable depending on a few variables.

Are you considering that although he may not be a capitalist from the income perspective, he is in the sense that he owns/controls the land/industry/means of production that afford him that income, which is like 5-10-20x in valuewhat he makes per year?

I have no clue why you're making distinctions between "income" and the wealth obtained through the ownership of property. No property owner just gives away all their "income" and lives a meager monk like existence while sitting on valuable property.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 15, 2015, 09:24:57 AM
At the end of the day, we basically see eye to eye on everything except maybe this one thing - I am okay with a capitalist who focuses on driving profits so long as they give the VAST MAJORITY of it back. I rented for years, and although I was exploited for profits, my life was awesome and I had everything I needed + 100x that. So, If I had a landlord who provided me housing and then gave away a huge chunk of his profits to appropriate causes, then I would be very ok with that.

But if your housing is only provided at the cost of maintenance with no profit for the property owner then that's not a capitalist. If there is a profit earned, but it is given away to charity, the exploitative relationship is still there, only the "capitalist" for some reason that makes no sense is taking actions self-destructive to his or her enterprise. Even charities and NGO's under capitalism have to invest in their own organizations to maintain and expand themselves, the idea that you can simultaneously give the "majority" of profits to charity while at the same time running an effective organization in a capitalist economy is incoherent.

I understand as a whole that this doesn't help to fix the problem at large, which is to kill off capitalism. But because capitalism isn't going anywhere soon, then I basically see this as a necessary evil.

Actually the final crisis of capitalism is fast approaching and it is up to us to ensure that it is communism, and not fascism, that emerges from the ruins of the old order.

Obviously I am speaking very generally, and if I took many other things into account such as certain landlords who provide housing to very low income individuals and suck them dry, then I would look at these cases very different. Like I said though, my life as a renter was more than great, and so for every renter that lived by the means that I did when I rented, I am ok with a capitalist taking money from them to give to the people who are truly suffering. I'm very okay with that.

...

 As for myself, I aspire to be like the people in the examples I provided, and I aspire and continue to strive to be big apart of new and established nonprofit organizations that go out and help those who going through very real pains due to the lack of necessities such as food, medicine, shelter, etc. If it makes me a bad person because I am exploiting those with such first world problems like having to rent properties that have ac, heating, clean carpets, multiple bathrooms and running water (hot, warm & cold) so that I can use that money to provide to people going through much worse, then so be it.

It's pretty silly to act like either you or the landlord in question is making some kind of great sacrifice by profiting from exploitation and then giving off the proceeds to "charity," when both you and your landlord's lifestyles are maintained by a system of global exploitation far more severe and brutal than the exploitation that occurs between you and your landlord. This is the problem with discussing class and capitalism on a strictly national level, particularly in developed countries. Every debate occurs within the context of bourgeois morality and ideology. Exploitation and profit is okay, because I invest a lot of those profits back into charities! Nevermind that you are an active participant in the very system that is destroying the planet and keeps the vast majority of its people enslaved.

What I don't get is why you stand behind such noble causes, but yet come across as an asshole who tries to abuse and harass people who you feel to be beneath you in virtue/ideals/beliefs/intellect, etc. You appear to be a pretty smart person, if your character matched your values then you seem like a person who could do a lot of good, and probably find a way to do it without hurting others too much if at all. But maybe you already are doing such, what do I know.



What do you know indeed.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 15, 2015, 11:33:46 AM
The housing is provided with some profit and probably a bit more to live off of than is needed. And yes, the exploitation is still prevalent because of that. Also, I actually am not acting like my landlord or I are making a great sacrifice in that example. Even if the excess/majority of profits are donated by the landlord, and although it may have required some work/risk to get his real estate portfolio that large, sacrifice is still not the right word. In fact, I don't even see it as some "uber good person" thing to do really by any means. I have some respect for it myself, and there is a form of nobility in it in my opinion, but I'm definitely not thinking the landlord is some saint. I'm just good with the fact that hes at least not a complete scumbag like 99% of the elites are. I am as well aware that the worst forms of exploitation from the system are more often than not on a global level and not so much in the states, even though at home it's full of unjust exploitation on a large scale itself.

I agree with basically everything you said, except for the idea that an organization can't give away the majority of their profits and continue to maintain. It definitely proves much more difficult of course. Either way though, as an extreme example: A landlord, if he so choose, could not only maintain but actually continue to expand his/her portfolio while donating not only the vast majority of his cash flow, but he can actually continue to grow it while donating 100% of it. I highly doubt this is true for most ventures, and that real estate is an exception to the rule - but it does prove there are some exceptions. Leverage, at least how it works in real estate, is a game changer in what you can do with a business. The concept is pretty simple, and has been proven, that you expand your total equity base throughout your portfolio and then use that equity base to get more leverage on more properties, and your equity base continues to expand at a more rapid rate the more you acquire. You can continue to leverage more and more and more while donating 100% of the cash in hand/cash flow or provide extremely cheap housing. Of course, I doubt anyone actually does this.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 15, 2015, 11:56:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oZqtJwD.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 15, 2015, 02:02:52 PM
The housing is provided with some profit and probably a bit more to live off of than is needed. And yes, the exploitation is still prevalent because of that. Also, I actually am not acting like my landlord or I are making a great sacrifice in that example. Even if the excess/majority of profits are donated by the landlord, and although it may have required some work/risk to get his real estate portfolio that large, sacrifice is still not the right word. In fact, I don't even see it as some "uber good person" thing to do really by any means. I have some respect for it myself, and there is a form of nobility in it in my opinion, but I'm definitely not thinking the landlord is some saint. I'm just good with the fact that hes at least not a complete scumbag like 99% of the elites are. I am as well aware that the worst forms of exploitation from the system are more often than not on a global level and not so much in the states, even though at home it's full of unjust exploitation on a large scale itself.

Okay, so the hypothetical charity landlord isn't quite as bad a person as a multi-billion dollar net worth banker and has less effect in maintaining and expanding monopoly capitalism. That's a really obvious conclusion that no one disagrees with though, and the amount of energy you spend on trying to convince people that there are some "good capitalists" is pretty similar to me to people who go to ridiculous lengths to acknowledge that there's "some" good cops, "some" good troops, or "some" good Nazis.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 15, 2015, 02:09:18 PM

([url]http://i.imgur.com/oZqtJwD.jpg[/url])


rofl...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 15, 2015, 03:09:33 PM
The housing is provided with some profit and probably a bit more to live off of than is needed. And yes, the exploitation is still prevalent because of that. Also, I actually am not acting like my landlord or I are making a great sacrifice in that example. Even if the excess/majority of profits are donated by the landlord, and although it may have required some work/risk to get his real estate portfolio that large, sacrifice is still not the right word. In fact, I don't even see it as some "uber good person" thing to do really by any means. I have some respect for it myself, and there is a form of nobility in it in my opinion, but I'm definitely not thinking the landlord is some saint. I'm just good with the fact that hes at least not a complete scumbag like 99% of the elites are. I am as well aware that the worst forms of exploitation from the system are more often than not on a global level and not so much in the states, even though at home it's full of unjust exploitation on a large scale itself.

Okay, so the hypothetical charity landlord isn't quite as bad a person as a multi-billion dollar net worth banker and has less effect in maintaining and expanding monopoly capitalism. That's a really obvious conclusion that no one disagrees with though, and the amount of energy you spend on trying to convince people that there are some "good capitalists" is pretty similar to me to people who go to ridiculous lengths to acknowledge that there's "some" good cops, "some" good troops, or "some" good Nazis.

It's a matter of opinion, of course. However, yeah I think there are "some" good capitalists. There are also "some" good everyday american's who are still shitting on those levels below them on the bird stand. But I am not talking about whether there are such or not, I am instead saying if one were to be such a capitalist, I would have respect for them myself. Again though, I wouldn't go around suggesting they're a saint, but yeah I think they're doing some moderate good - that is my opinion.

To be fair though, I should disclose that the reason I picked landlords as an example is because I associate with many local ones often, and I am one myself. I own two real estate investment companies (one which holds a moderate rental portfolio) and head up a real estate solutions company as well. So, although my views were practically the same even back when I was in college and renting, I do question the level of my own bias.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 15, 2015, 03:13:31 PM
It's a matter of opinion, of course. However, yeah I think there are "some" good capitalists. There are also "some" good everyday american's who are still shitting on those levels below them on the bird stand. But I am not talking about whether there are such or not, I am instead saying if one were to be such a capitalist, I would have respect for them myself. Again though, I wouldn't go around suggesting they're a saint, but yeah I think they're doing some moderate good - that is my opinion.

Okay, but "you're better than the rest of the guards here at the death camp" is not very worthwhile praise.

To be fair though, I should disclose that the reason I picked landlords as an example is because I associate with many local ones often, and I am one myself. I own two real estate investment companies (one which holds a moderate rental portfolio) and head up a real estate solutions company as well. So, although my views were practically the same even back when I was in college and renting, I do question the level of my own bias.

Wow, shocking, the landlord defends landlordism and exploitation. It sounds to me like you are mostly just looking for absolution yourself and ways to justify your own behavior. If it's any consolation you will probably just naturally become a Republican in a few years at this rate and then you won't have to worry about it anymore.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 15, 2015, 03:21:32 PM
It's a matter of opinion, of course. However, yeah I think there are "some" good capitalists. There are also "some" good everyday american's who are still shitting on those levels below them on the bird stand. But I am not talking about whether there are such or not, I am instead saying if one were to be such a capitalist, I would have respect for them myself. Again though, I wouldn't go around suggesting they're a saint, but yeah I think they're doing some moderate good - that is my opinion.

Okay, but "you're better than the rest of the guards here at the death camp" is not very worthwhile praise.

To be fair though, I should disclose that the reason I picked landlords as an example is because I associate with many local ones often, and I am one myself. I own two real estate investment companies (one which holds a moderate rental portfolio) and head up a real estate solutions company as well. So, although my views were practically the same even back when I was in college and renting, I do question the level of my own bias.

Wow, shocking, the landlord defends landlordism and exploitation. It sounds to me like you are mostly just looking for absolution yourself and ways to justify your own behavior. If it's any consolation you will probably just naturally become a Republican in a few years at this rate and then you won't have to worry about it anymore.


A few posts ago you were suggesting I couldn't see capitalism from the outside, now I'm aware of such to the point that I need to try to justify it... hmm...

If the system ever crumbles and they come knocking on my door demanding I give up deed/title and assets, then I will gladly give it all up without hesitation - until then, or until I know of a better way, then I aspire to be like those people I mentioned in such examples, and so maybe you could say I am justifying my aspirations, but I am not. I honestly don't feel I need to.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 15, 2015, 03:25:18 PM
A few posts ago you were suggesting I couldn't see capitalism from the outside, now I'm aware of such to the point that I need to try to justify it... hmm...

No, not really, I didn't claim that your need to justify it came from any sort of great awareness about what capitalism is and how it actually functions. I think instead that you, like many others, are intuitively aware of the injustice of your very existence on some level, which I don't think requires a deep awareness of political economy. Because you have this awareness you seek rationalizations and excuses to justify your position and actions. To make an example, many people who make the argument that sweatshops are a net good are likely not educated in the science of Marxism and do not understand the deeper, scientific reasons why they are bad. But they understand sweatshops are bad on a visceral, intuitive moral level, and so they feel some need to justify an obvious injustice.

until then, or until I know of a better way, then I aspire to be like those people I mentioned in such examples, and so maybe you could say I am justifying my aspirations, but I am not. I honestly don't feel I need to.

Your posting in this thread implies otherwise.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 15, 2015, 03:35:16 PM
A few posts ago you were suggesting I couldn't see capitalism from the outside, now I'm aware of such to the point that I need to try to justify it... hmm...

No, not really, I didn't claim that your need to justify it came from any sort of great awareness about what capitalism is and how it actually functions. I think instead that you, like many others, are intuitively aware of the injustice of your very existence on some level, which I don't think requires a deep awareness of political economy. Because you have this awareness you seek rationalizations and excuses to justify your position and actions. To make an example, many people who make the argument that sweatshops are a net good are likely not educated in the science of Marxism and do not understand the deeper, scientific reasons why they are bad. But they understand sweatshops are bad on a visceral, intuitive moral level, and so they feel some need to justify an obvious injustice.

until then, or until I know of a better way, then I aspire to be like those people I mentioned in such examples, and so maybe you could say I am justifying my aspirations, but I am not. I honestly don't feel I need to.

Your posting in this thread implies otherwise.

Fair enough. Although, I am not in the category of people would see sweatshops as a net good.

As for my posts implying otherwise. They definitely don't imply/conclude any such thing. Although it's a possibly conclusion, it cannot be concluded - there are many other motivations as to why I would post. I am already completely content with my actions, I don't need to justify them. On another note, I'm not saying that I am right and my way is right I am always open to hear other peoples side, but looking for justification is definitely not an incentive for my posting.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 15, 2015, 04:01:05 PM
Actually, your example seems to be poor in my opinion - comparing peoples perspectives and awareness of the realities of sweatshops vs landlords. The exploitation isn't as readily visible in the landlord/renter relationship as it is in the sweatshops, and I believe most people who see sweatshops as immoral but a necessary evil, don't even consider landlording to be immoral. There are definitely those out there who are aware of such, but it is minuscule relative to how many adhere to your example. Because of this, I think it weakens your example. You're comparing my awareness of the wrongs of landlording, to the awareness of those who are only aware of very visible and obvious exploitations. It's easy for people to see sweatshops as wrong and not see the whole picture of capitalism as wrong. but if you're aware that landlording is exploitative, I think it becomes very hard to ignore the other countless other spectrum's in capitalism for what they really are.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 15, 2015, 04:16:47 PM
Actually, your example seems to be poor in my opinion - comparing peoples perspectives and awareness of the realities of sweatshops vs landlords. The exploitation isn't as readily visible in the landlord/renter relationship as it is in the sweatshops, and I believe most people who see sweatshops as immoral but a necessary evil, don't even consider landlording to be immoral. There are definitely those out there who are aware of such, but it is minuscule relative to how many adhere to your example. Because of this, I think it weakens your example.

The purpose of bringing up a similar but more severe situation is that, by making the differences on each side more stark, it helps better explain a less polarized, more ambiguous dichotomy.

You're comparing my awareness of the wrongs of landlording, to the awareness of those who are only aware of very visible and obvious exploitations. It's easy for people to see sweatshops as wrong and not see the whole picture of capitalism as wrong. but if you're aware that landlording is exploitative, I think it becomes very hard to ignore the other countless other spectrum's in capitalism for what they really are.

I don't really think so, you seem to be aware of the nature of the class relationship, but you are comfortable enough with capitalism to expend significant energy making asinine excuses for the continuation of the status quo like "well some capitalists are nice."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 15, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/TPt2wMM.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 15, 2015, 04:24:43 PM
Actually, your example seems to be poor in my opinion - comparing peoples perspectives and awareness of the realities of sweatshops vs landlords. The exploitation isn't as readily visible in the landlord/renter relationship as it is in the sweatshops, and I believe most people who see sweatshops as immoral but a necessary evil, don't even consider landlording to be immoral. There are definitely those out there who are aware of such, but it is minuscule relative to how many adhere to your example. Because of this, I think it weakens your example.

The purpose of bringing up a similar but more severe situation is that, by making the differences on each side more stark, it helps better explain a less polarized, more ambiguous dichotomy.

You're comparing my awareness of the wrongs of landlording, to the awareness of those who are only aware of very visible and obvious exploitations. It's easy for people to see sweatshops as wrong and not see the whole picture of capitalism as wrong. but if you're aware that landlording is exploitative, I think it becomes very hard to ignore the other countless other spectrum's in capitalism for what they really are.

I don't really think so, you seem to be aware of the nature of the class relationship, but you are comfortable enough with capitalism to expend significant energy making asinine excuses for the continuation of the status quo like "well some capitalists are nice."

I am not making excuses for the continuation. I've wanted the capitalism system as a whole to cease since my early high school years, and if it were a readily available option then I would say take it no hesitation. But it's not.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 15, 2015, 04:31:30 PM
I am not making excuses for the continuation. I've wanted the capitalism system as a whole to cease since my early high school years, and if it were a readily available option then I would say take it no hesitation. But it's not.

Well not with that attitude.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 15, 2015, 04:32:58 PM
Eh, sort of fucked up, but the Reich's not going anywhere. Til then its a living. *drops zyklon b pellets into shaft*
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 16, 2015, 05:33:15 PM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 22, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Suru%C3%A7_bombing

hmm, socialists trying to rebuild kobani targeted by isis scum.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 22, 2015, 06:58:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9ac1yWe2XI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9ac1yWe2XI)

fuck
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 22, 2015, 10:18:30 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Suru%C3%A7_bombing

hmm, socialists trying to rebuild kobani targeted by isis scum.

"socialists" armed by the pentagon, lmao
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 22, 2015, 10:18:48 PM
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9ac1yWe2XI[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9ac1yWe2XI[/url])

fuck



yeah i saw that, fucked up :(
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 23, 2015, 01:13:33 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/WbMWthc.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 23, 2015, 02:39:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/WbMWthc.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 24, 2015, 11:28:53 AM
http://i.imgur.com/gI6oyt0.gifv (http://i.imgur.com/gI6oyt0.gifv)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 24, 2015, 11:43:41 AM
I think people would run out and try to grab free money in the street at any stage of capitalism, tbqh.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 24, 2015, 11:41:34 PM
Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 25, 2015, 09:08:01 AM
Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url] ([url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url])


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 25, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
whats the point in increasing minimum wage? the businesses will just pass the expense on to the customers.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 25, 2015, 09:23:49 AM
whats the point in increasing minimum wage? the businesses will just pass the expense on to the customers.

Wow, never thought of it that way.
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 25, 2015, 09:56:33 AM
whats the point in increasing minimum wage? the businesses will just pass the expense on to the customers.

Wow, never thought of it that way.

Really are you that retarded? That you NEVER thought of that before?




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Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 25, 2015, 09:58:19 AM
whats the point in increasing minimum wage? the businesses will just pass the expense on to the customers.

That really depends on the company, the size of their workforce, and revenue goals. Anything is possible. Without a hike in prices for consumers. Personally I don't mind paying a little more if it means someone gets a living/decent wage.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 25, 2015, 10:05:45 AM

Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url] ([url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url])


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Sure he does but he's not in the restaurant frying up donuts or making coffee. He's running a multibillion dollar company, 'successfully'. I am sure his wage is reflective of his experience and knowledge of business administration to lead a company with thousands of stores around the world.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 25, 2015, 10:19:25 AM

Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url] ([url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url])


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Sure he does but he's not in the restaurant frying up donuts or making coffee. He's running a multibillion dollar company, 'successfully'. I am sure his wage is reflective of his experience and knowledge of business administration to lead a company with thousands of stores around the world.


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lmfao
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 25, 2015, 10:21:27 AM
Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url] ([url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url])


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scummy billionaire ceo says giving people livable wages is outrageous. how we continue to let these exploiters continue to breath is beyond me.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 25, 2015, 10:25:20 AM
Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url] ([url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url])


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scummy billionaire ceo says giving people livable wages is outrageous. how we continue to let these exploiters continue to breath is beyond me.


If you want to find the answer to that question read Ryu's retarded post up there.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 25, 2015, 10:25:44 AM


Sure he does but he's not in the restaurant frying up donuts or making coffee. He's running a multibillion dollar company, 'successfully'. I am sure his wage is reflective of his experience and knowledge of business administration to lead a company with thousands of stores around the world.


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probably because of ridiculous idiots like this who see nothing wrong with a ceo making 600x more than the actual labour.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 25, 2015, 10:38:30 AM
So hard to be a billionaire...I love and feel sorry for my boss.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 25, 2015, 11:46:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/KrQxcgR.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 25, 2015, 01:53:37 PM

So hard to be a billionaire...I love and feel sorry for my boss.

Side effect of being a welfare swine


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 26, 2015, 02:08:18 AM
Quote from: EviL~Ryu
Sure he does but he's not in the restaurant frying up donuts or making coffee. He's running a multibillion dollar company, 'successfully'. I am sure his wage is reflective of his experience and knowledge of business administration to lead a company with thousands of stores around the world.

you're fucking trolling
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 26, 2015, 02:56:38 AM
Quote from: jon link

scummy billionaire ceo says giving people livable wages is outrageous. how we continue to let these exploiters continue to breath is beyond me.

If we take measure to kill those who exploit us, then should we still not afford the same measure to be used against us to those who we exploit? I'm not saying you or I are as bad as Nigel Travis or those like him, however, it seems convenient to kind of forgive, debase or look past our own personal moral transgressions just because these guys pimped on a larger level than us.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 26, 2015, 09:32:18 AM
If we take measure to kill those who exploit us, then should we still not afford the same measure to be used against us to those who we exploit? I'm not saying you or I are as bad as Nigel Travis or those like him, however, it seems convenient to kind of forgive, debase or look past our own personal moral transgressions just because these guys pimped on a larger level than us.

I don't think saying that the CEO of Dunkin Donuts deserves to die necessarily means we are turning a blind eye to our own sins, Swift. But thank you once again for the superficial and vapid moralizing.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 26, 2015, 01:55:01 PM
I don't ever see you guys talk about having yourselves killed for the role you play in all of this.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on July 26, 2015, 06:47:21 PM
actually......

http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310 (http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 26, 2015, 10:44:27 PM
I don't ever see you guys talk about having yourselves killed for the role you play in all of this.

Durrr
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 27, 2015, 04:44:20 AM
actually......

[url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url] ([url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url])


Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.

"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 27, 2015, 07:21:03 AM
Fascinating shit Swift.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 27, 2015, 07:22:31 AM
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.

"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.

And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 27, 2015, 10:39:14 AM
i'm trying to figure out why my "hands are bloody" and how it could even be remotely comparable to wealth hoarding exploiters..
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 27, 2015, 11:04:15 AM
(https://anarchistdaily.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/capitalism-cartoonweb.jpg)


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on July 27, 2015, 11:45:08 AM
actually......

[url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url] ([url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url])


Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.

"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.

Think of it like your rich charity people.  Good people, doing their best, still part of a bad system.  All americans are citizens of a country that exerts force on the rest of the world in order to stay in power as the chief exploiter and fatcat of the world.  Doesnt make all americans bad people, but they do harm others just by existing.  i will...... NOT be killing myself.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 27, 2015, 11:53:50 AM

actually......

[url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url] ([url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url])


Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.

"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.

Think of it like your rich charity people.  Good people, doing their best, still part of a bad system.  All americans are citizens of a country that exerts force on the rest of the world in order to stay in power as the chief exploiter and fatcat of the world.  Doesnt make all americans bad people, but they do harm others just by existing.  i will...... NOT be killing myself.


You would be greatly missed if you did...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 27, 2015, 12:42:46 PM
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.

"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.

And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?

I'm not better in anyway
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 27, 2015, 12:55:11 PM
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.

"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.

And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?

I'm not better in anyway


Not only that, you're actually worse, not just by your ideology but by your own admitted position as a rent seeking/would be rent seeking capitalist. So shaddup.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 27, 2015, 12:58:55 PM

Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.

"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.

And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?

I'm not better in anyway


Not only that, you're actually worse, not just by your ideology but by your own admitted position as a rent seeking/would be rent seeking capitalist. So shaddup.

Stfu


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 27, 2015, 01:25:37 PM
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.

"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.

And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?

I'm not better in anyway


Not only that, you're actually worse, not just by your ideology but by your own admitted position as a rent seeking/would be rent seeking capitalist. So shaddup.

You really have no idea what type of person I am. You don't know my good or bad deeds, and you probably don't really know my ideology either. If you did though, you would certainly come up with your own personal opinions that you would deem as absolute truths.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 27, 2015, 01:55:42 PM
you defend landlords
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 27, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
you defend landlords

And then when people start dumping on the multi-billionaire parasite he comes in here all holier than thou lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 27, 2015, 02:33:25 PM
Well yes, Hitler may have been bad. But can anyone here say they're not at least a little bit racist? Really, who are you to judge?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on July 27, 2015, 02:48:07 PM
I absolutely did not defend landlords. Nor did I come in holier than thou whatsoever, you do that regularly though. You guys twist just about everything.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 27, 2015, 02:54:43 PM

You guys twist just about everything.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 27, 2015, 06:20:25 PM
I absolutely did not defend landlords. Nor did I come in holier than thou whatsoever, you do that regularly though. You guys twist just about everything.

 ::)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 28, 2015, 04:55:46 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/hedge-funds-puerto-rico-close-schools-fire-teachers-pay-us-back (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/hedge-funds-puerto-rico-close-schools-fire-teachers-pay-us-back)

Billionaire hedge fund managers have called on Puerto Rico to lay off teachers and close schools so that the island can pay them back the billions it owes.

The hedge funds called for Puerto Rico to avoid financial default – and repay its debts – by collecting more taxes, selling $4bn worth of public buildings and drastically cutting public spending, particularly on education.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 28, 2015, 05:01:30 PM
i was watching mainstream media and the narrator was blaming protestors who were against austerity for puerto rico's increasing problems. almost smashed my tv.
 
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 30, 2015, 09:35:16 PM
Former GOP Sen. Phil Gramm: “It Was an Outrage” That “Exploited” AT&T CEO Got Only $75 Million at Retirement


GRAMM: It’s the one form of bigotry that is still allowed in America, and that’s bigotry against the successful … My friend Ed Whitacre at AT&T, if there’s ever been an exploited worker, even though they made a big deal about him getting $75 million when he retired, the man added billions of dollars of value, he was exploited, it was an outrage!

https://vimeo.com/134852285

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/29/former-gop-sen-phil-gramm-outrage-att-ceo-got/

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on July 30, 2015, 10:05:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/NpgPbvr.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 31, 2015, 05:26:37 PM
As of 2010, there were 3.5 million people without homes in the U.S. There were also 18.9 million vacant homes.




Capitalism is the best, most efficient system we have tho
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 31, 2015, 06:21:51 PM
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/truecapitalist/images/0/0f/The_Faces_of_Capitalism_by_Pit_Kuru.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120115230340)


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 03, 2015, 01:06:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4eatgCG.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on August 03, 2015, 01:07:23 PM
kill the masters
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 03, 2015, 09:03:51 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Human_welfare_and_ecological_footprint_sustainability.jpg)
(https://bcpassets.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/FidelCastroSmiling.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 03, 2015, 09:58:30 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/4eatgCG.png)

...$13/hr electrician bs...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 07, 2015, 12:08:31 AM
http://youtu.be/WkUo2SOSgfU


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 08, 2015, 10:31:03 AM
i watched some jeopardy last night and under the latin american history questions, one was who is the president of venezuela that  took office after hugo chavez' death, and another was where the zapatista were based in mexico...
the contestants had 0 clue.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 10, 2015, 12:08:46 AM
Gravity Payments CEO defends $70,000 minimum salary
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/09/news/gravity-payments-dan-price-70k-salary/index.html


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 17, 2015, 12:37:32 PM
Northwestern football players lose bid to start union
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/news/companies/northwestern-university-football-union-effort-ncaa/index.html


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 19, 2015, 06:35:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PoPd7.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 19, 2015, 06:40:00 PM
That movie is really bad.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 19, 2015, 06:44:07 PM
Also SBC is a fucktard racist Zionist.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 21, 2015, 02:46:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/i947CDN.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 21, 2015, 05:04:42 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-life-would-look-we-said-work-life-balance-nod-amazon-trunk?trk=hp-feed-article-title-ppl-follow (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-life-would-look-we-said-work-life-balance-nod-amazon-trunk?trk=hp-feed-article-title-ppl-follow) this woman needs to be pushed into an industrial dough mixer
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 21, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
5. More people should quit more of the time.
Instead of complaining that companies are not family friendly, how about just quitting? Work to make enough money, then take a break from work. Then work again when you need money.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 21, 2015, 05:11:35 PM
In this way, it makes sense to me that you get paid well, and you get paid reliably, so you need to put the company before your personal life. If you want to give up getting paid well, or you want to give up getting paid reliably, then you can have some of your personal life back. That seems fair.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 21, 2015, 05:59:14 PM
living inside her own privileged bubble, not recognizing not everyone affords the same privileges nor the luck she had in her life. these annoying morons are all over the place, reality doesn't seem to connect to these people.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 21, 2015, 06:18:41 PM
living inside her own privileged bubble, not recognizing not everyone affords the same privileges nor the luck she had in her life. these annoying morons are all over the place, reality doesn't seem to connect to these people.

It's actually outright Stockholm Syndrome since she's said she's dealt with that kind of bullshit work culture before and wants to say its win. I bet her kids would agree!!!!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 24, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/aug/24/global-stocks-sell-off-deepens-as-panic-grips-markets-live (http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/aug/24/global-stocks-sell-off-deepens-as-panic-grips-markets-live)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 25, 2015, 12:33:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pS0laVK.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 25, 2015, 12:49:16 PM
lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 26, 2015, 09:13:18 AM
Waitress responds to LOL note, no tip with ... THIS
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/tv/2015/08/25/diners-leave-waitress-lol-note-and-no-tip-daily-hit-newday.cnn.html


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 26, 2015, 10:31:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euH3pAuLuko&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euH3pAuLuko&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 26, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
Richard Wolff is chill.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 26, 2015, 03:19:33 PM
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/burning-man-one-percent-silicon-valley-tech/ (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/burning-man-one-percent-silicon-valley-tech/) the gist of this you probably already know if you're not an idiot, but good read if you think burning man/people who are really into burning man are really annoying retards
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Thomas29 on August 26, 2015, 07:17:22 PM
I Must Agree With What The Op Has Typed.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 28, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
http://abc7news.com/entertainment/rapper-chief-keef-names-newborn-after-record-label-/960022/ (http://abc7news.com/entertainment/rapper-chief-keef-names-newborn-after-record-label-/960022/)


CHICAGO --
Chicago rapper Chief Keef has named his son after his record label in an effort to promote his latest album, according to a statement from the CEO of FilmOn Records.

"Chief Keef and his newest baby mama have agreed to name the newborn Sno FilmOn Dot Com Cozart in order to promote the release of Sosa's double album Bang 3 with FilmOn Music and MondoTunes on September 18," Alki David said in a statement Thursday.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 31, 2015, 01:55:49 PM
(https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/obama-nsa-spy-cartoon-1.jpg)


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 31, 2015, 02:07:47 PM
(https://danieljmitchell.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/obama-nsa-spy-cartoon-1.jpg)


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Insightful.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 31, 2015, 05:50:33 PM
A young reporter asked a leading capitalist how he made his fortune. "It was really quite simple", the capitalist answered. I bought an apple for 5 cents, spent the evening polishing it, and sold it the next day for 10 cents. With this I bought two apples, spent the evening polishing them,and sold them for 20. And so it went until I amassed 80. It was at this point that my wife's father died and left us a million dollars".
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 02, 2015, 01:16:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gBNZJ6G.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 02, 2015, 01:31:35 PM
([url]https://i.imgur.com/gBNZJ6G.jpg[/url])


(http://img14.deviantart.net/4139/i/2012/190/e/9/conservative_brony_by_tegthethird-d56l1hb.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 03, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wroviLJ.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 03, 2015, 11:10:00 AM
The Number of Americans Living on Less Than $2 a Day Is Skyrocketing
http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing (http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing)

capitalism raises people out of poverty tho
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 03, 2015, 11:26:50 AM
The Number of Americans Living on Less Than $2 a Day Is Skyrocketing
[url]http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing[/url] ([url]http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing[/url])

capitalism raises people out of poverty tho


Pfft, I make money but I still try to live around $2.00 . Poor ain't got anything on me.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 03, 2015, 11:39:15 AM
The Number of Americans Living on Less Than $2 a Day Is Skyrocketing
[url]http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing[/url] ([url]http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing[/url])

capitalism raises people out of poverty tho


Pfft, I make money but I still try to live around $2.00 . Poor ain't got anything on me.


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If you're a middle class American who drives a car to work and eats something besides ramen noodles you're probably over $2 a day.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 03, 2015, 11:51:57 AM
what the fuck is ryu talking about
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 03, 2015, 12:02:49 PM



Pfft, I make money but I still try to live around $2.00 . Poor ain't got anything on me.


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If you're a middle class American who drives a car to work and eats something besides ramen noodles you're probably over $2 a day.



Pfft, I make money but I still try to live around $2.00 . Poor ain't got anything on me.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 03, 2015, 12:06:45 PM
I'm pretty sure you don't actually "try" to do that very hard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 03, 2015, 12:31:40 PM
http://youtu.be/WZHJFTMoGMY


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 03, 2015, 02:42:52 PM
i don't think ryu has the slightest clue what it is do live on $2 a day.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 04, 2015, 10:21:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/f9tIeh6.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 04, 2015, 11:48:31 AM
http://www.clickhole.com/article/luckiest-man-ever-guy-goes-computer-all-day-job-3000 (http://www.clickhole.com/article/luckiest-man-ever-guy-goes-computer-all-day-job-3000)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 04, 2015, 01:54:32 PM
fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol.  there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 04, 2015, 01:55:52 PM

fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol.  there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.

Labour's are too dumb and inefficient to manage themselves...why they work for capitalists.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 04, 2015, 01:59:13 PM

fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol.  there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.

Labour's are too dumb and inefficient to manage themselves...why they work for capitalists.


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You're possibly even dumber than the Pollack Claw.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 04, 2015, 02:00:19 PM


fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol.  there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.

Labour's are too dumb and inefficient to manage themselves...why they work for capitalists.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 04, 2015, 02:05:43 PM

fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol.  there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.

Labour's are too dumb and inefficient to manage themselves...why they work for capitalists.


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you're too dumb certainly, but most labour will do just fine without capitalists exploiting them.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 04, 2015, 02:12:40 PM
Nobody in history ever worked or labored without a capitalist telling them what to do. Thanks Good Guy Capitalist
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 04, 2015, 02:18:28 PM
that implication that capitalists are all knowing and altruistic and without them workers are just drooling morons walking around like chickens with their heads cut off not knowing what to do . a belief so stupid you have to be equally dumb to believe it.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 04, 2015, 02:22:24 PM
You don't even have to go so far as to critique his conception of capitalism because for most of human history the vast majority of laborers did not labor for a capitalist so its just demonstrably completely factually wrong.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 05, 2015, 03:49:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/SYIeXPw.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 05, 2015, 03:49:44 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/SYIeXPw.jpg)

LOL


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 06, 2015, 12:57:22 PM
Say fundamental changes happen over a very short period of time that result in the entire reconstruction of our system from what it is now into a socialist economy. What happens to the capitalists' wealth? I imagine many will begin finding ways to trade their money for foreign currencies, or liquidate their assets in the U.S. and invest elsewhere.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 06, 2015, 07:45:25 PM
the wealth gets redistributed to the labour that initially created that wealth. but socialism doesn't work unless it's global , it can't be confined to a single state as efficiently.

incidentally, it's quite odd watching people drool lovingly over capitalism, a system that works to keep the majority of the world's wealth in the hands of a few. it's really deranged.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 07, 2015, 01:30:38 AM
The changing face of modern U.S. labor
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/living/labor-day-2015-actions-feat/index.html

Interesting.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 08, 2015, 08:14:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/b0hxDRs.jpg)
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 08, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/b0hxDRs.jpg)

Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 09, 2015, 08:57:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/b0hxDRs.jpg)

Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...


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You are retarded.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 09, 2015, 10:59:31 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/b0hxDRs.jpg)

Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...


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You are retarded.

How? Of course the owner gets more pay...he's got more invested and expenses than a guy who just makes the crap.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 09, 2015, 11:08:42 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/b0hxDRs.jpg)

Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...


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You are retarded.

How? Of course the owner gets more pay...he's got more invested and expenses than a guy who just makes the crap.


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"Dur."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 09, 2015, 11:09:05 AM


(https://i.imgur.com/b0hxDRs.jpg)

Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...


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You are retarded.

How? Of course the owner gets more pay...he's got more invested and expenses than a guy who just makes the crap.


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"Dur."




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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 09, 2015, 11:38:41 AM
"...who just makes the crap" lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 09, 2015, 10:58:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4cg0ots.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 09:53:19 AM
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/9/9275611/victorian-era-life (http://www.vox.com/2015/9/9/9275611/victorian-era-life) these people should be murdered, imo
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 10, 2015, 10:16:21 AM
yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 10, 2015, 10:48:57 AM

yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.

Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 11:09:48 AM

yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.

Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.


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You need to be put to work in a gulag.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 10, 2015, 11:13:51 AM


yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.

Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.


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You need to be put to work in a gulag.

Please...the current generation is out of control. I am sure you can also see that even with your Chinese education...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 11:16:19 AM


yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.

Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.


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You need to be put to work in a gulag.

Please...the current generation is out of control. I am sure you can also see that even with your Chinese education...


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You're a retarded old man.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 10, 2015, 11:21:03 AM



yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.

Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.


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You need to be put to work in a gulag.

Please...the current generation is out of control. I am sure you can also see that even with your Chinese education...


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You're a retarded old man.

Nope. Smart enough to see that the current generation is lazy and don't give a fuck about anything but the now.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 11:42:09 AM
You and everyone else once they get old and lame.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 10, 2015, 11:48:23 AM

You and everyone else once they get old and lame.

So what, you never think your gonna get old?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 12:16:15 PM
I'm probably older than you.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 10, 2015, 12:37:45 PM

I'm probably older than you.

By physical age maybe, but your current mental status suggest otherwise.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 03:29:27 PM

I'm probably older than you.

By physical age maybe, but your current mental status suggest otherwise.


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Holy shit...so this is what getting owned feels like.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 10, 2015, 03:32:45 PM


I'm probably older than you.


By physical age maybe, but your current mental status suggest otherwise.


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Holy shit...so this is what getting owned feels like.


I know, right? Sux to be owned by the best...

(http://www.unixstickers.com/image/cache/data/stickers/meme/fuckyeah/Fuck-yeah.sh-600x600.png)


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 04:51:34 PM
(http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/21254/apple-iphone-6s-live-_0824.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 10, 2015, 05:03:49 PM

([url]http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/21254/apple-iphone-6s-live-_0824.jpg[/url])


Lmfao ya 99 for that...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 10, 2015, 05:14:47 PM
i need to buy 50 of them...  no fuck . capitalist mind control almost got me. good thing i have a lenin poster to look at which immediately snaps me out of the materialist hypnosis propaganda.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 06:16:15 PM
i need to buy 50 of them...  no fuck . capitalist mind control almost got me. good thing i have a lenin poster to look at which immediately snaps me out of the materialist hypnosis propaganda.

I'm sure you're going to pretend later that you being snapped out of a consumerist fugue by a mass produced Lenin poster you probably got on Amazon was part of the joke here.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 10, 2015, 08:02:54 PM
are people being killed in factory fires or collapses in third world countries while mass producing Lenin posters? the fuck is that comparison. you're one of those retards that thinks wearing a che t-shirt is ironic.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 10, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
are people being killed in factory fires or collapses in third world countries while mass producing Lenin posters? the fuck is that comparison. you're one of those retards that thinks wearing a che t-shirt is ironic.

Uh but it is ironic that Che has become a consumerist sigil? Harping on that is only dumb because its so completely obvious to point out, not because its not true.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 14, 2015, 02:53:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COvQFfiXAAArNSS.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 17, 2015, 11:16:52 AM
World's first 8K TV costs $133,000 - CNN
https://apple.news/AVLAA7stLRS-Qatw7S7_bDQ




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Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 17, 2015, 11:32:52 AM
([url]http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/21254/apple-iphone-6s-live-_0824.jpg[/url])


Apple deserves injunction against Samsung smartphone features: U.S. appeals court - Reuters
https://apple.news/AjSjhNDIKTxifjmptQsXzoA




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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 17, 2015, 01:05:38 PM
labours may be the backbone of societies productive efforts, but there needs to be a higher reward for the entrepreneurial, inventor, visionary, leader types who each individually do far more than any one lowly individual in the workforce.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 17, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
a higher reward than 60000000000000000000000x the salary of labourers?

Quote
leader types who each individually do far more than any one lowly individual in the workforce.
balderdash hogwash poppycock
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 17, 2015, 01:18:32 PM
straight up bourgeois mythology
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 17, 2015, 01:30:39 PM
labours may be the backbone of societies productive efforts, but there needs to be a higher reward for the entrepreneurial, inventor, visionary, leader types who each individually do far more than any one lowly individual in the workforce.

 There needs to be a higher reward for murdering retards like you.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 17, 2015, 02:09:50 PM
You don't believe in a pay class structure within your social utopia?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 17, 2015, 02:13:21 PM
a higher reward than 60000000000000000000000x the salary of labourers?

Quote
leader types who each individually do far more than any one lowly individual in the workforce.
balderdash hogwash poppycock

Obviously not.

But some type of a pay structure system should be in order where a news paper delivery boy / mcdonalds employee type doesn't make the same as a doctor for example
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 17, 2015, 02:18:57 PM
socialism isn't about same wage for everyone. it's about fair wage for everyone without the exploitation by capitalists, and the entire elimination of poverty. also ceo's don't do more than their labourers. the fact is labourers do more. also a lot of these "leader types" you talk about were born in wealth and have advantages others don't. there's no equal opportunity in capitalism.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 17, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
According to Einstein, the profit motive of a capitalist society, in conjunction with competition among capitalists, leads to unnecessary cycles of booms and depressions, and ultimately encourages selfishness instead of cooperation.[3] In addition, the educational system of such a society would be severely undermined because people will educate themselves only to advance their careers. This results in the "crippling of individuals" and the erosion of human creativity.[3] Unrestrained competition in a capitalist society leads to a huge waste of labor and causes economic anarchy, which Einstein denounces as the real source of capitalism's "evil":


einstein owned capitalism pretty hard. we're a society of retards that continues propping up this cancerous system.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 17, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
have you read this http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/ (http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 17, 2015, 09:57:10 PM
Swift is really fucking stupid.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 18, 2015, 06:16:17 PM
(http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/09/18/58738941_h39478570_wide-fffdd4eb31fa4ff15f3ccf0c13a39b6b429f70c0-s800-c85.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 19, 2015, 03:22:28 PM
socialism isn't about same wage for everyone. it's about fair wage for everyone without the exploitation by capitalists, and the entire elimination of poverty. also ceo's don't do more than their labourers. the fact is labourers do more. also a lot of these "leader types" you talk about were born in wealth and have advantages others don't. there's no equal opportunity in capitalism.

I agree with everything except the part about CEO's not doing as much work as their labourers. Although a CEO's job description varies greatly between company to company, I am under the impression most of them have far more complex work loads, stress and overtime than the typical employee? What has made you believe otherwise? I'm interested
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 19, 2015, 03:27:37 PM
have you read this [url]http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/[/url] ([url]http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/[/url])


What is this article about, convincing people why socialism is better/fair? If so, I don't need to read
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 19, 2015, 03:42:41 PM
According to Einstein, the profit motive of a capitalist society, in conjunction with competition among capitalists, leads to unnecessary cycles of booms and depressions, and ultimately encourages selfishness instead of cooperation.[3] In addition, the educational system of such a society would be severely undermined because people will educate themselves only to advance their careers. This results in the "crippling of individuals" and the erosion of human creativity.[3] Unrestrained competition in a capitalist society leads to a huge waste of labor and causes economic anarchy, which Einstein denounces as the real source of capitalism's "evil":


einstein owned capitalism pretty hard. we're a society of retards that continues propping up this cancerous system.

I've never read anything from Einstein as it pertains to his views on capitalism. Good stuff
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 19, 2015, 04:27:14 PM
What is this article about, convincing people why socialism is better/fair? If so, I don't need to read
I've never read anything from Einstein as it pertains to his views on capitalism. Good stuff
Lol that's what my link was, it's an article by Einstein.  I posted it because Jon quoted Einstein and that's more reading if he hasn't read it yet!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 19, 2015, 07:05:07 PM

I agree with everything except the part about CEO's not doing as much work as their labourers. Although a CEO's job description varies greatly between company to company, I am under the impression most of them have far more complex work loads, stress and overtime than the typical employee? What has made you believe otherwise? I'm interested

even if you assume that false bourgeois narrative is actually correct (that the ceo works harder) , do they work THAT much harder in which their bloated wages are justified? carlos slim is such an insanely overworked person , so much more than his employees, that he's really worth that 60+ billion dollars? not a chance.
fact is, a ceo can work as hard as he wants or as  lazy as he wants - without the workers toiling there's no money to be had in the first place.


Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 19, 2015, 08:11:28 PM
([url]http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/09/18/58738941_h39478570_wide-fffdd4eb31fa4ff15f3ccf0c13a39b6b429f70c0-s800-c85.jpg[/url])


Pope Francis landed in Cuba on Saturday, quickly calling on the communist nation to "open itself to the world," while praising its recent restoration of diplomatic ties with the United States.

advocating the spreading of capitalism into cuba, gulag the pope.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 20, 2015, 12:32:08 PM

I agree with everything except the part about CEO's not doing as much work as their labourers. Although a CEO's job description varies greatly between company to company, I am under the impression most of them have far more complex work loads, stress and overtime than the typical employee? What has made you believe otherwise? I'm interested

even if you assume that false bourgeois narrative is actually correct (that the ceo works harder) , do they work THAT much harder in which their bloated wages are justified? carlos slim is such an insanely overworked person , so much more than his employees, that he's really worth that 60+ billion dollars? not a chance.
fact is, a ceo can work as hard as he wants or as  lazy as he wants - without the workers toiling there's no money to be had in the first place.

I definitely think they work harder. But as for your question, no, it doesn't justify their 'bloated wages' at all.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 21, 2015, 10:18:46 AM
Invalid Tweet ID
CEO on twitter who raised drug prices 5000%, asked how he feels about working people suffering, unable to afford these drugs, he laughs about it then masturbates into his own mouth
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 21, 2015, 10:28:10 AM

Invalid Tweet ID
CEO on twitter who raised drug prices 5000%, asked how he feels about working people suffering, unable to afford these drugs, he laughs about it then masturbates into his own mouth

Kind of bs he's trying charge patent protected prices for a drug that has been out since 1960s...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 21, 2015, 11:37:32 AM
You'd think we as a society would kill people like that guy to prevent them from doing more harm.

"It's a great business decision that also benefits all of our stakeholders," Shkreli then retorted. "I don't expect the likes of you to process that."

His next remark: "You are such a moron."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 21, 2015, 11:42:36 AM
If he was Chinese he would be executed for that because China is communist.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 21, 2015, 11:48:16 AM
haha he started off with his own hedge fund where he was shorting pharma stocks and then telling the FDA to deny their applications, which he got investigated for, and then when his hedge fund went bankrupt he had another pharma company that he paid off the hedge fund people with, and then he got fired from that company and sued for doing that, so now this is his third company and he's buying old medicine and raising the price from $13.50 a pill to $750 a pill.  throughout this process he has made tens of millions of dollars for himself
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 21, 2015, 04:25:56 PM
haha he started off with his own hedge fund where he was shorting pharma stocks and then telling the FDA to deny their applications, which he got investigated for, and then when his hedge fund went bankrupt he had another pharma company that he paid off the hedge fund people with, and then he got fired from that company and sued for doing that, so now this is his third company and he's buying old medicine and raising the price from $13.50 a pill to $750 a pill.  throughout this process he has made tens of millions of dollars for himself


this is a picture of him and he was also apparently a professional league of legends player for a time

(http://i.imgur.com/HUG77qv.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 21, 2015, 04:36:00 PM
I think he just bought a team, because he's a fucking loser, so he thought that would be a good way to spend some of his money.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 21, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
I think he just bought a team, because he's a fucking loser, so he thought that would be a good way to spend some of his money.

Just as funny tbh.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 21, 2015, 09:08:58 PM
Obviously goes without saying but Jesus Christ this guy needs to be at the bottom of a mass grave yesterday.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 21, 2015, 09:16:17 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli#Esports_involvement

I think the novelty of our universe merging with the nightmare irony sphere has worn out, and I want to go home now.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 21, 2015, 09:52:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BEpIbCk.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 22, 2015, 05:55:44 PM

haha he started off with his own hedge fund where he was shorting pharma stocks and then telling the FDA to deny their applications, which he got investigated for, and then when his hedge fund went bankrupt he had another pharma company that he paid off the hedge fund people with, and then he got fired from that company and sued for doing that, so now this is his third company and he's buying old medicine and raising the price from $13.50 a pill to $750 a pill.  throughout this process he has made tens of millions of dollars for himself


this is a picture of him and he was also apparently a professional league of legends player for a time

([url]http://i.imgur.com/HUG77qv.jpg[/url])


What a fucking asshole...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 23, 2015, 12:34:57 PM
how do you figure millionaires or some cases billionaires work harder than actual workers who need money? a ceo fucks up he just resigns and sleeps on his mountain of cash while workers get laid off. fuck off swift.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 23, 2015, 12:37:54 PM
how do you figure millionaires or some cases billionaires work harder than actual workers who need money? a ceo fucks up he just resigns and sleeps on his mountain of cash while workers get laid off. fuck off swift.

He is insanely retarded.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2015, 06:23:32 PM
how do you figure millionaires or some cases billionaires work harder than actual workers who need money? a ceo fucks up he just resigns and sleeps on his mountain of cash while workers get laid off. fuck off swift.

because it's the reality of things. climbing corporate ladders, building companies from the ground up and so forth is a lot of work. i would know more about the latter, these types take their work home with them, and never clock off, they obsess over these projects, build upon countless skills so that they can understand a job enough in order to reasonably manage the person they outsource it to, go in and out of bankruptcy, manage countless personality types, and answer to stresses from shareholders, employees, families and so forth on a lot of different levels.

working for somebody else, working 40 hours a week, doing a job where the way has been paved for you, this stuff is pretty easy. and the people who are higher up the company ladder, working on more important projects, developing systems/ideas, etc get paid more as well than lower level workers, because they work more and do more.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 23, 2015, 06:41:14 PM
um climbing the corporate ladder is easy as it gets if you're part of the privileged few. in fact, there is no climbing necessary.

also you never answered the question - which was about millionaire and billionaire CEOs. all you've described is what small business owners may have to deal with. why do i get the impression you think you're going to be a millionaire some day?

"...the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."  swift irl.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 23, 2015, 06:43:22 PM
get paid more as well than lower level workers, because they work more and do more.


you think that's how it works? harder working, do more = more money? lol wtf. some of the richest people in the world are parasitic absentee landlords that do nothing that actual contributes to society, they simply own capital.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2015, 06:47:45 PM
um climbing the corporate ladder is easy as it gets if you're part of the privileged few. in fact, there is no climbing necessary.

also you never answered the question - which was about millionaire and billionaire CEOs. all you've described is what small business owners may have to deal with. why do i get the impression you think you're going to be a millionaire some day?

"...the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."  swift irl.

Yes, I think the same for CEO types who climb corporate ladders to already established companies.

I'm glad you at least separate your argument away from small business owner types.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2015, 06:57:58 PM
get paid more as well than lower level workers, because they work more and do more.


you think that's how it works? harder working, do more = more money? lol wtf. some of the richest people in the world are parasitic absentee landlords that do nothing that actual contributes to society, they simply own capital.

I think that's how it works for the most part yes. smart work > hard work though, and privilege is always a serious advantage.

obviously i don't think the rich vs poor/middle class each have an income/net worth that is equal to their actual outputs. obviously the pay for the rich is grossly and insanely over inflated relative to their output.

i'm NOT saying that some people work 100x, or 10,000x than the average worker. But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups (i am including CEO's of established companies in this as well)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2015, 06:59:10 PM
why do i get the impression you think you're going to be a millionaire some day?

"...the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."  swift irl.

let me ask you this. do you think it's impossible/unrealistic for you to become a millionaire?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 23, 2015, 07:29:33 PM
I'm definitely going to read these retarded Swift posts and reply to them in earnest.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 23, 2015, 08:23:36 PM
But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups

the working class constitutes a lot more than just entry level or "middle level jobs".
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2015, 08:49:48 PM
But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups

the working class constitutes a lot more than just entry level or "middle level jobs".


of course.

ceo's by and large have extensive amounts of stress, responsibility, complicated workloads relative to the average employee. they're also often grossly overpaid.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 23, 2015, 08:55:59 PM
you're half right.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 23, 2015, 09:45:30 PM
But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups

the working class constitutes a lot more than just entry level or "middle level jobs".


Morons like Swift are completely incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale so everything this retard says is framed around THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS lol.

"Wow, when you think about it, a CEO works way harder than the working class, so they deserve their money. BTW when I say "working class" I am talking about middle class Americans and not the actual global working class of slaves."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 23, 2015, 10:48:06 PM
A lot of the CEO leeches do work like 75 hours a week and grind their teeth in their sleep and take tons of speed etc.  Like the proletariat needs to be liberated from exploitation, these bougies too need to be liberated, from their lives.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 23, 2015, 11:29:58 PM

A lot of the CEO leeches do work like 75 hours a week and grind their teeth in their sleep and take tons of speed etc.  Like the proletariat needs to be liberated from exploitation, these bougies too need to be liberated, from their lives.

You gonna practice corporate law now and be an advocate?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 12:05:35 AM
But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups

the working class constitutes a lot more than just entry level or "middle level jobs".


Morons like Swift are completely incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale so everything this retard says is framed around THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS lol.

"Wow, when you think about it, a CEO works way harder than the working class, so they deserve their money. BTW when I say "working class" I am talking about middle class Americans and not the actual global working class of slaves."

i am talking globally, not just the states. your bad for assuming otherwise.

i understand many places around the world have non-existent/relaxed labor laws, or at least governments willing to bend them for one incentive or another, and pieces of shit take advantage of this with long work weeks etc - however most big shot entrepreneurs/upper-management guys i know (i've never met ceo's to big corps though, but i assume they are the same as follow) get warmed up at 70 hours a week, and most severely struggle with trying to separate work life from personal life as they cant shut it off. it's a sort of addiction/obsession, in it's own very powerful way. There's constant fear of disappointing colleagues, employees, or struggling to keep finances up by taking huge financial risks, file bankruptcy multiple times, stay up late working on huge projects or stressing over direction/risks they're undergoing, etc etc etc. there's healthy life style books written for and geared toward these types - see again, biggerpockets.com granted, i'm sure they have MUCH better working conditions/environments then a lot of people out there but that's for another conversation.

also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again

i'm sure you'll assume something or twist my argument in some way, as you always do - perhaps this time you'll take the angle of "oh swift's trying to create a pity party for the blood sucking capitalists" which i am not. Again, the pay and working conditions are absolutely unfair for the middle/poor classes throughout the world. all i am saying is these types typically are some of the most dedicated/obsessive hard working types who get their position due to these "qualities". in addition to this, they typically have other types of qualities, some of them are great at implementing or even coming up with new ideas, some are amazing talent scouts, etc etc.

they aren't just sipping pina colada's 24/7 on beaches as jon seems to think. granted ceo is a very broad term and job description/tasks for these individuals can vary greatly from company to company - most are picked carefully by the company and have to answer to a board of directors, chairman etc who ultimately reports back to purely profit motivated shareholders... but this "hey lets just hire billy because we like billy and then we'll just fucking pay him a high 6 or even 7 figure salary with amazing benefits so that he can fuck around and be a rich bastard while not attending to our multi-million/billion dollar company" is absurd. these mother fuckers all want a quality ceo who works both hard and smart because his/her direction/risks will reflect on the board of directors greatly who ultimately are always out of a job if the shareholders want it so.

now if you want to talk about someone who doesn't do shit - shareholders.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 12:25:17 AM
A lot of the CEO leeches do work like 75 hours a week and grind their teeth in their sleep and take tons of speed etc.  Like the proletariat needs to be liberated from exploitation, these bougies too need to be liberated, from their lives.

thats all i am saying. minus the liberation from their lives part of course O_o

interesting that you would guess teeth grinding to be a significant problem. my business is obviously only small scale and i am not dealing with the same stress as these types we talk about probably do, and i work more like 60 hr/wk but i grind hardcore and have massive sleep problems.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 07:52:20 AM
i am talking globally, not just the states. your bad for assuming otherwise.

You absolutely are not. In this very post you spend less than a sentence talking about the global situation, and then go on to talk about how hard it is to be an "entrepeneur" because all the ones you know work so hard. Making token statements to the effect that there's a world outside the US does not mean your argument or analysis meaningfully incorporates these facts.

i understand many places around the world have non-existent/relaxed labor laws, or at least governments willing to bend them for one incentive or another, and pieces of shit take advantage of this with long work weeks etc - however most big shot entrepreneurs/upper-management guys i know (i've never met ceo's to big corps though, but i assume they are the same as follow) get warmed up at 70 hours a week, and most severely struggle with trying to separate work life from personal life as they cant shut it off. it's a sort of addiction/obsession, in it's own very powerful way. There's constant fear of disappointing colleagues, employees, or struggling to keep finances up by taking huge financial risks, file bankruptcy multiple times, stay up late working on huge projects or stressing over direction/risks they're undergoing, etc etc etc. there's healthy life style books written for and geared toward these types - see again, biggerpockets.com granted, i'm sure they have MUCH better working conditions/environments then a lot of people out there but that's for another conversation.

also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again

i'm sure you'll assume something or twist my argument in some way, as you always do - perhaps this time you'll take the angle of "oh swift's trying to create a pity party for the blood sucking capitalists" which i am not. Again, the pay and working conditions are absolutely unfair for the middle/poor classes throughout the world. all i am saying is these types typically are some of the most dedicated/obsessive hard working types who get their position due to these "qualities". in addition to this, they typically have other types of qualities, some of them are great at implementing or even coming up with new ideas, some are amazing talent scouts, etc etc.

So what is your fucking point? Who fucking cares? A middle class or wealthy person who chooses to be obsessed with his or her work and work this way, what are you saying about them? That they actually do "work hard?" Or harder than the working class? They don't. Even if you want to compare some McDonald's cashier wage slave with no responsibility performing completely brainless and menial tasks, the "hard working entrepeneur" myth bullshit person you're talking about has the security of choosing to be an "entrepeneur" (I love the use of this word as some kind of sanitized, forward looking capitalist btw), people like that don't start from nothing and work 80 hours a week and build something from scratch. The McDonald's wage slave is dependent on that job or a similarly low skilled job for their very survival. There is a difference between "working hard" on what is essentially a big fucking hobby and working for the survival of yourself and your family. And who is making money off the latter? These fucking "entrepeneurs" you're talking up like a Republican presidential candidate. These people overwhelmingly come from the middle and upper classes. They have assets. They work like this because its what they like to do in life and they want to make more money. They are "good at what they do" as you say because they are the only classes who have the chance to do these things, the working class does not have access to the education and resources that allow these opportunities.

You are completely unable to evaluate capitalist society in an objective, scientific way. You completely ignore the global structure of oppression and exploitation ("i understand many places around the world have non-existent/relaxed labor laws, or at least governments willing to bend them for one incentive or another, and pieces of shit take advantage of this with long work weeks etc - however...*droning paragraph about how hard it is to be a CEO*") and focus on vulgar individualist platitudes based on "people you know" and liberal capitalist propaganda. You do not understand the difference between owning the means of production and laboring under those owners for survival.

"Healthy lifestyle books" lmfao. "Feel sorry for these people, sometimes they have to pay $30 for self help books and another few hundred for a seminar on mindfulness just to get through their lives." I would believe you were trolling if you hadn't repeatedly shown yourself to actually be this stupid.

also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again

You're bad for making this argument and then saying "I'm not making that argument!" as if that changes the actual content of what you're writing. "I'm not saying child molesters are not monsters deserving of more pity than their victims, but *writes one sentence about how its bad to be molested and then a bazillion sentences about how hard it is to be someone who wants to fuck kids*

they aren't just sipping pina colada's 24/7 on beaches as jon seems to think.

Now who's twisting people's words? Jon and I obviously don't think a CEO literally spends 24/7 on the beach. We both believe they are enormously wealthy and privileged people compared to the rest of the world and most people in the world would gladly trade their life for that one, including the supposed 80 hour work week you keep harping on. Are you actually going to argue otherwise? If not, what the fuck is your point? Some people who run companies work a lot because they are capitalist leeches obsessed with money? Okay Swift, that's true! Can you shut the fuck up unless you have a point?

granted ceo is a very broad term and job description/tasks for these individuals can vary greatly from company to company - most are picked carefully by the company and have to answer to a board of directors, chairman etc who ultimately reports back to purely profit motivated shareholders... but this "hey lets just hire billy because we like billy and then we'll just fucking pay him a high 6 or even 7 figure salary with amazing benefits so that he can fuck around and be a rich bastard while not attending to our multi-million/billion dollar company" is absurd. these mother fuckers all want a quality ceo who works both hard and smart because his/her direction/risks will reflect on the board of directors greatly who ultimately are always out of a job if the shareholders want it so.

You're now arguing capitalism is a meritocracy and nepotism is practically nonexistent? Jesus.

And before you accuse me of strawmanning you, this is what you said. "The idea that they are just going to hire their friends and pay them a 6 or 7 figure salary is absurd, they want a quality CEO" (paraphrase). Are you really this fucking stupid? Besides naked nepotism that exists in practically any human organization where friends or family members or people closer to the authority receive beneficial promotions and pay, what about the fact that the vast majority of the planet is barred from these positions not because of merit, but because their class position completely bars them from accessing the resources they would need to enter into these positions?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 07:55:47 AM
thats all i am saying. minus the liberation from their lives part of course O_o

Yeah lets have a reasonable discussion with the people who enslave the planet for profit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 10:26:02 AM
how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something
your opinions are false, and they help to propagate the demonization of the poor and the myth that the poor don't work hard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something

Some people can read you fucktard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 10:55:04 AM

how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something

Some people can read you fucktard.

Good thing your a swine and not people


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 10:56:49 AM

how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something

Some people can read you fucktard.

Good thing your a swine and not people


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You make Swift look like Aristotle.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 10:57:30 AM


how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something

Some people can read you fucktard.

Good thing your a swine and not people


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You make Swift look like Aristotle.



Your both retarded, including your hand puppet Jon.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 11:00:40 AM


how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something

Some people can read you fucktard.

Good thing your a swine and not people


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You make Swift look like Aristotle.



Your both retarded, including your hand puppet Jon.


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I clown on Jon all the time and, basically, you're fucking stupid.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 11:03:03 AM



how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something

Some people can read you fucktard.

Good thing your a swine and not people


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You make Swift look like Aristotle.



Your both retarded, including your hand puppet Jon.


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I clown on Jon all the time and, basically, you're fucking stupid.

Why he is your hand puppet, dumbass.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 11:04:04 AM
Why he is your hand puppet, dumbass.

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That makes no sense, you're a retard and nobody likes your posts.
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 11:04:40 AM
Why he is your hand puppet, dumbass.

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That makes no sense, you're a retard and nobody likes your posts.

U madd swine?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 11:05:57 AM
Why he is your hand puppet, dumbass.

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That makes no sense, you're a retard and nobody likes your posts.

U madd swine?


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I'm not mad because I was actually just thinking of 9/11 and how funny it was, lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 11:48:08 AM
Lol all you have to do is joke about 9/11 and this little bitch has to cry in the corner of his room for an hour before he can get on the internet again.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 11:56:51 AM
i am talking globally, not just the states. your bad for assuming otherwise.

You absolutely are not. In this very post you spend less than a sentence talking about the global situation, and then go on to talk about how hard it is to be an "entrepeneur" because all the ones you know work so hard. Making token statements to the effect that there's a world outside the US does not mean your argument or analysis meaningfully incorporates these facts.

i understand many places around the world have non-existent/relaxed labor laws, or at least governments willing to bend them for one incentive or another, and pieces of shit take advantage of this with long work weeks etc - however most big shot entrepreneurs/upper-management guys i know (i've never met ceo's to big corps though, but i assume they are the same as follow) get warmed up at 70 hours a week, and most severely struggle with trying to separate work life from personal life as they cant shut it off. it's a sort of addiction/obsession, in it's own very powerful way. There's constant fear of disappointing colleagues, employees, or struggling to keep finances up by taking huge financial risks, file bankruptcy multiple times, stay up late working on huge projects or stressing over direction/risks they're undergoing, etc etc etc. there's healthy life style books written for and geared toward these types - see again, biggerpockets.com granted, i'm sure they have MUCH better working conditions/environments then a lot of people out there but that's for another conversation.

also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again

i'm sure you'll assume something or twist my argument in some way, as you always do - perhaps this time you'll take the angle of "oh swift's trying to create a pity party for the blood sucking capitalists" which i am not. Again, the pay and working conditions are absolutely unfair for the middle/poor classes throughout the world. all i am saying is these types typically are some of the most dedicated/obsessive hard working types who get their position due to these "qualities". in addition to this, they typically have other types of qualities, some of them are great at implementing or even coming up with new ideas, some are amazing talent scouts, etc etc.

So what is your fucking point? Who fucking cares? A middle class or wealthy person who chooses to be obsessed with his or her work and work this way, what are you saying about them? That they actually do "work hard?" Or harder than the working class? They don't. Even if you want to compare some McDonald's cashier wage slave with no responsibility performing completely brainless and menial tasks, the "hard working entrepeneur" myth bullshit person you're talking about has the security of choosing to be an "entrepeneur" (I love the use of this word as some kind of sanitized, forward looking capitalist btw), people like that don't start from nothing and work 80 hours a week and build something from scratch. The McDonald's wage slave is dependent on that job or a similarly low skilled job for their very survival. There is a difference between "working hard" on what is essentially a big fucking hobby and working for the survival of yourself and your family. And who is making money off the latter? These fucking "entrepeneurs" you're talking up like a Republican presidential candidate. These people overwhelmingly come from the middle and upper classes. They have assets. They work like this because its what they like to do in life and they want to make more money. They are "good at what they do" as you say because they are the only classes who have the chance to do these things, the working class does not have access to the education and resources that allow these opportunities.

You are completely unable to evaluate capitalist society in an objective, scientific way. You completely ignore the global structure of oppression and exploitation ("i understand many places around the world have non-existent/relaxed labor laws, or at least governments willing to bend them for one incentive or another, and pieces of shit take advantage of this with long work weeks etc - however...*droning paragraph about how hard it is to be a CEO*") and focus on vulgar individualist platitudes based on "people you know" and liberal capitalist propaganda. You do not understand the difference between owning the means of production and laboring under those owners for survival.

"Healthy lifestyle books" lmfao. "Feel sorry for these people, sometimes they have to pay $30 for self help books and another few hundred for a seminar on mindfulness just to get through their lives." I would believe you were trolling if you hadn't repeatedly shown yourself to actually be this stupid.

also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again

You're bad for making this argument and then saying "I'm not making that argument!" as if that changes the actual content of what you're writing. "I'm not saying child molesters are not monsters deserving of more pity than their victims, but *writes one sentence about how its bad to be molested and then a bazillion sentences about how hard it is to be someone who wants to fuck kids*

they aren't just sipping pina colada's 24/7 on beaches as jon seems to think.

Now who's twisting people's words? Jon and I obviously don't think a CEO literally spends 24/7 on the beach. We both believe they are enormously wealthy and privileged people compared to the rest of the world and most people in the world would gladly trade their life for that one, including the supposed 80 hour work week you keep harping on. Are you actually going to argue otherwise? If not, what the fuck is your point? Some people who run companies work a lot because they are capitalist leeches obsessed with money? Okay Swift, that's true! Can you shut the fuck up unless you have a point?

granted ceo is a very broad term and job description/tasks for these individuals can vary greatly from company to company - most are picked carefully by the company and have to answer to a board of directors, chairman etc who ultimately reports back to purely profit motivated shareholders... but this "hey lets just hire billy because we like billy and then we'll just fucking pay him a high 6 or even 7 figure salary with amazing benefits so that he can fuck around and be a rich bastard while not attending to our multi-million/billion dollar company" is absurd. these mother fuckers all want a quality ceo who works both hard and smart because his/her direction/risks will reflect on the board of directors greatly who ultimately are always out of a job if the shareholders want it so.

You're now arguing capitalism is a meritocracy and nepotism is practically nonexistent? Jesus.

And before you accuse me of strawmanning you, this is what you said. "The idea that they are just going to hire their friends and pay them a 6 or 7 figure salary is absurd, they want a quality CEO" (paraphrase). Are you really this fucking stupid? Besides naked nepotism that exists in practically any human organization where friends or family members or people closer to the authority receive beneficial promotions and pay, what about the fact that the vast majority of the planet is barred from these positions not because of merit, but because their class position completely bars them from accessing the resources they would need to enter into these positions?

1 - I'm not going to get into an argument about whether or not I take a global perspective when talking about capitalism, just because you have an inkling of suspicion
2 - yes, i think upper management positions, including ceo types, work much harder jobs, longer work days and actually move the needle a lot more so than the average worker they employee. there are always exceptions of course. you disagree with this. Great?
3 - You twisted my argument exactly in the way I predicted you would in my post prior i said "i'm sure you'll assume something or twist my argument in some way, as you always do - perhaps this time you'll take the angle of 'oh swift's trying to create a pity party for the blood sucking capitalists' which i am not." ---- obviously i am not suggesting a pity party for these folk, they have lovely working conditions, way to much fucking money, the liberty to do whatever they want from day to day (as you mentioned), and so forth.
4 - You proceed to suggest I don't know some of the fundamental mechanics behind capitalism like "You do not understand the difference between owning the means of production and laboring under those owners for survival. " LOL, i would struggle more with doing basic division than failing to understand this shit. you're ridiculous and out of touch with reality. you're the only person i've met who thinks you have access to a certain type of knowledge that the only special among us, such as yourself, are capable of comprehending simply because you read a few of k. marx's books/pamphlets. the guy has come up with some interesting and thought provoking stuff, that much is true, but none of which is the stuff that you regularly refer to.
5 - recognizing that ceo's don't deserve what they're paid greatly changes my argument. you took the liberty of adding it back into my argument in order to try to make my point look bad.
6 - you're right that i did over exaggerate yours and jon's perspective.
7 - uh of course i think you're strawmanning me. that's all you ever do always? refer to #1, #3, #5 and almost every other arguing post you've written in reply to me.
oh, and everything's always so black and white with you. i don't think it's either a meritocracy or nepotism system. i think it's a mix of both. We're divided into class and opportunity groups, we compete within our own group with other class members.


but honestly gn, i'm less interested in how you misinterpret, add your petty assumptions and twist all of my arguments and more interested in why you seem like such an angry arrogant person. you're so full of yourself, and so angry.  you should take model after your buddy's jon and blid. jon's distaste for capitalists seems much more sincere than your own, and blid who seemingly agrees with you on every little detail and idolizes you, is much more well grounded and rational than yourself.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 12:12:07 PM
yes, i think upper management positions, including ceo types, work much harder jobs, longer work days and actually move the needle a lot more so than the average worker they employee. there are always exceptions of course. you disagree with this. Great?


still parroting this nonsense? ok. let's look at studies.


http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random (http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random)

this study finds literally no correlation between pay and company performance, so where is the "stress" coming from exactly when they know they can fuck up and still make loads of cash? ? ? the average worker doesn't have that luxury , do they?



http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085 (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085)
Abstract:     
We find evidence that Chief Executive Officer (CEO) pay is negatively related to future stock returns for periods up to three years after sorting on pay. For example, firms that pay their CEOs in the top ten percent of excess pay earn negative abnormal returns over the next three years of approximately -8%. The effect is stronger for CEOs who receive higher incentive pay relative to their peers and stronger for CEOs with greater tenure. Our results appear to be driven by high-pay related CEO overconfidence that leads to shareholder wealth losses from activities such as overinvestment and value-destroying mergers and acquisitions.


CEOs get paid so much they literally don't give a fuck.



Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 12:13:12 PM
but honestly gn, i'm less interested in how you misinterpret, add your petty assumptions and twist all of my arguments and more interested in why you seem like such an angry arrogant person. you're so full of yourself, and so angry.  you should take model after your buddy's jon and blid. jon's distaste for capitalists seems much more sincere than your own, and blid who seemingly agrees with you on every little detail and idolizes you, is much more well grounded and rational than yourself.


I'm going to finish owning you in just a second but lol, when I saw your wall of retarded text I knew you would throw in some holier than thou bullshit in the mix like this. You're so fucking predictable and pathetic. Swift is so much smarter and more reasonable and well adjusted and happier than the people who explain what an idiot he is!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 12:18:48 PM
yes, i think upper management positions, including ceo types, work much harder jobs, longer work days and actually move the needle a lot more so than the average worker they employee. there are always exceptions of course. you disagree with this. Great?


still parroting this nonsense? ok. let's look at studies.


[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random[/url] ([url]http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random[/url])

this study finds literally no correlation between pay and company performance, so where is the "stress" coming from exactly when they know they can fuck up and still make loads of cash? ? ? the average worker doesn't have that luxury , do they?



[url]http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085[/url] ([url]http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085[/url])
Abstract:     
We find evidence that Chief Executive Officer (CEO) pay is negatively related to future stock returns for periods up to three years after sorting on pay. For example, firms that pay their CEOs in the top ten percent of excess pay earn negative abnormal returns over the next three years of approximately -8%. The effect is stronger for CEOs who receive higher incentive pay relative to their peers and stronger for CEOs with greater tenure. Our results appear to be driven by high-pay related CEO overconfidence that leads to shareholder wealth losses from activities such as overinvestment and value-destroying mergers and acquisitions.


CEOs get paid so much they literally don't give a fuck.






i am not arguing pay vs performance for ceo's, im arguing ceo output vs average employee output. less irrelevant and unrelated sources please
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 12:24:35 PM
but honestly gn, i'm less interested in how you misinterpret, add your petty assumptions and twist all of my arguments and more interested in why you seem like such an angry arrogant person. you're so full of yourself, and so angry.  you should take model after your buddy's jon and blid. jon's distaste for capitalists seems much more sincere than your own, and blid who seemingly agrees with you on every little detail and idolizes you, is much more well grounded and rational than yourself.


I'm going to finish owning you in just a second but lol, when I saw your wall of retarded text I knew you would throw in some holier than thou bullshit in the mix like this. You're so fucking predictable and pathetic. Swift is so much smarter and more reasonable and well adjusted and happier than the people who explain what an idiot he is!

you're going to finish distorting and twisting what i said in a few seconds.

also, this section of my post stabbed the very ego of yours that i was talking about so you decided to single it out right away and reply
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 01:08:43 PM
1 - I'm not going to get into an argument about whether or not I take a global perspective when talking about capitalism, just because you have an inkling of suspicion

Characterizing my argument as based on an "inkling of suspicion" is dishonest, as I have explained with examples and evidence how your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective. Since I have presented this evidence, and you have not refuted it, and lied about the nature of my argument, I will read this as your ceding the point.

2 - yes, i think upper management positions, including ceo types, work much harder jobs, longer work days and actually move the needle a lot more so than the average worker they employee. there are always exceptions of course. you disagree with this. Great?

I backed up my argument for why they do not, bringing up the material difference between the two classes with regards to their relationship to the means of production and the implications this has on their labor and lifestyles. You did not address any of these arguments, rather, you reframe this materialist, scientific argument as simply a subjective difference in opinion, while not addressing the details of my argument whatsoever. I will read this as you conceding that point as well.

Further, I even acknowledged in my post is that if all you're saying is "CEO's have to work too, and sometimes work long hours," I already agreed with you that that was true. I asked what your point is in making this argument, particularly relative to the working class, if not to apologize for and generate pity and empathy for the wealthy, and you have not responded to that.

3 - You twisted my argument exactly in the way I predicted you would in my post prior i said "i'm sure you'll assume something or twist my argument in some way, as you always do - perhaps this time you'll take the angle of 'oh swift's trying to create a pity party for the blood sucking capitalists' which i am not." ---- obviously i am not suggesting a pity party for these folk, they have lovely working conditions, way to much fucking money, the liberty to do whatever they want from day to day (as you mentioned), and so forth.

I explained how this was what your argument amounted to and you have not addressed that to say why I am wrong. To make an example, if I said "I am not saying Nazi Germany was good, but..." and then proceed to make an argument for why Nazi Germany was good, the fact that I preceded the argument with a statement calling it something else does not actually change the nature of the argument. The fact that you made an argument and "predicted" I would "twist it" into being about the substance of the argument rather than the non-sequitur disclaimer you preceded it with does not impress me.

4 - You proceed to suggest I don't know some of the fundamental mechanics behind capitalism like "You do not understand the difference between owning the means of production and laboring under those owners for survival. " LOL, i would struggle more with doing basic division than failing to understand this shit. you're ridiculous and out of touch with reality. you're the only person i've met who thinks you have access to a certain type of knowledge that the only special among us, such as yourself, are capable of comprehending simply because you read a few of k. marx's books/pamphlets. the guy has come up with some interesting and thought provoking stuff, that much is true, but none of which is the stuff that you regularly refer to.

If you do understand these things (I do not think you do), they are nonetheless not acknowledged in your argument. Is it possible that you do understand these things but just do not incorporate them into your rich people apologia here for some reason? Yes, it is possible, but 1) I doubt it is the case, and 2) even if true, your argument is still missing these pieces, and is therefore fundamentally flawed.

As for your personal attack, I think you are confusing my acknowledgement of the obvious fact that I am smarter, more knowledgeable on this subject, and more well-read than you with a general sense of thinking I am smarter, have a greater understanding of this subject, and am more well-read than everyone, which is not the case. There are certainly people with a greater understanding of these topics than myself, but you are most definitely not one of them.

5 - recognizing that ceo's don't deserve what they're paid greatly changes my argument. you took the liberty of adding it back into my argument in order to try to make my point look bad.

So I will ask again: What is your argument? If it's "executives work long hours and often work 'hard' (at least in a subjective sense) at their jobs" I've already acknowledged that this is true. If it's something else, please state clearly what it is.

7 - uh of course i think you're strawmanning me. that's all you ever do always? refer to #1, #3, #5 and almost every other arguing post you've written in reply to me.

Nah. I'm not fooled by this tactic of dismissing my arguments wholesale on the basis of "strawmanning." I made substantive arguments and backed up my views, you didn't respond directly to my arguments.

oh, and everything's always so black and white with you. i don't think it's either a meritocracy or nepotism system.

Again, here is what you said:

Quote
but this "hey lets just hire billy because we like billy and then we'll just fucking pay him a high 6 or even 7 figure salary with amazing benefits so that he can fuck around and be a rich bastard while not attending to our multi-million/billion dollar company" is absurd. these mother fuckers all want a quality ceo who works both hard and smart because his/her direction/risks will reflect on the board of directors greatly who ultimately are always out of a job if the shareholders want it so.

You call the idea that a board would hire someone on the basis of neptoism ("we like billy") is "absurd." This certainly sounds like you are dismissing nepotism as a significant factor in career advancement. Now you say it is "a mix of both." Where did those goalposts go? I could have sworn they were right here...

but honestly gn, i'm less interested in how you misinterpret, add your petty assumptions and twist all of my arguments and more interested in why you seem like such an angry arrogant person. you're so full of yourself, and so angry.  you should take model after your buddy's jon and blid. jon's distaste for capitalists seems much more sincere than your own, and blid who seemingly agrees with you on every little detail and idolizes you, is much more well grounded and rational than yourself.


lol again at this pathetic flailing. Get owned bitch.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 01:10:16 PM
i am not arguing pay vs performance for ceo's, im arguing ceo output vs average employee output. less irrelevant and unrelated sources please

Define "output." Once you do that, show where either I or Jon claimed that "the average employee" as an individual has greater "output" than an executive.

also, this section of my post stabbed the very ego of yours that i was talking about so you decided to single it out right away and reply

Stop projecting.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 01:15:42 PM
yes, i think upper management positions, including ceo types, work much harder jobs, longer work days and actually move the needle a lot more so than the average worker they employee. there are always exceptions of course. you disagree with this. Great?


still parroting this nonsense? ok. let's look at studies.


[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random[/url] ([url]http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random[/url])

this study finds literally no correlation between pay and company performance, so where is the "stress" coming from exactly when they know they can fuck up and still make loads of cash? ? ? the average worker doesn't have that luxury , do they?



[url]http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085[/url] ([url]http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085[/url])
Abstract:     
We find evidence that Chief Executive Officer (CEO) pay is negatively related to future stock returns for periods up to three years after sorting on pay. For example, firms that pay their CEOs in the top ten percent of excess pay earn negative abnormal returns over the next three years of approximately -8%. The effect is stronger for CEOs who receive higher incentive pay relative to their peers and stronger for CEOs with greater tenure. Our results appear to be driven by high-pay related CEO overconfidence that leads to shareholder wealth losses from activities such as overinvestment and value-destroying mergers and acquisitions.


CEOs get paid so much they literally don't give a fuck.






i am not arguing pay vs performance for ceo's, im arguing ceo output vs average employee output. less irrelevant and unrelated sources please



the studies destroy your arguments completely.
also what is a CEO's output? their entire job is figuring out how to maximize profits, so all they do is  think of ways about how better to exploit their labour that's creating their wealth in the first place so they can better serve their bourgeois masters.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 01:16:19 PM
I'm not saying Hitler wasn't bad, I'm just saying he was deep down a good person who just wanted the best for Germany, and did a lot of good things while making a few small mistakes along the way. Please stop dishonestly characterizing my position as apologizing for Hitler.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 01:35:09 PM
https://www.reddit.com/user/martinshkreli (https://www.reddit.com/user/martinshkreli)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 01:41:11 PM
a ceo fucks up he just resigns and sleeps on his mountain of cash while workers get laid off.


Volkswagen CEO Likely to Get $32 Million Pension After Leaving


damn so much stress
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
gn - it never ends with you. you're completely full of shit and you are a filthy debater. I tried man. I tried to read your post. And yeah, I knew it would be full of twists and lies - you always switch your own argument in the slightest ways AND the change the oppositions whenever you see it beneficial to you. It's pathetic, and you do it ever so discreetly. it's always the same with you, i have to go back and review your original points and mine because just to get the real story

so i tried to read your next post, but I caught you on bullshit within the very first sentence. because of this, i gave up on reading even a spec of the rest.

But here's the issue as it pertains to ur first sentence

your argument went from

"Morons like Swift are completely incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale so everything this retard says is framed around THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS lol."

This is not a provable point, on either side. I denied it, and stated that I am considering a global perspective when I say CEO's work harder than the average worker and for you to suggest otherwise is an inkling of suspicion and nothing more. At the end of the day, the only thing I am denying is the accusation that i don't think of such on a global scale.

But you wouldn't let it go, so you change your argument ever so slightly (as always) to

"your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective"

First you're straight up accusing me of being unable to think of things on a global scale, from oh "well he's just not acknowledging it"

I'm sure the rest of your post is filled with slight variations of your arguments, random additions to mine made by you, and tons and tons of gray throughout your wordage to prevent people from ever truly pinning you down. i'm done with you
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 02:20:27 PM
And just to make a pre-reply to whatever bullshit twist you'll pull out of your ass again:

If in your original post you said "your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective" then yeah, I would have agreed. i absolutely didn't use third worlder type examples or put a post-it disclaimer on my forehead "Please be advised, I take things into a global perspective not just a national one"

But that's not what you said, you claimed im incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale - and that's what I was arguing, not ur shift in argument

filthy debater


I'm not saying Hitler wasn't bad, I'm just saying he was deep down a good person who just wanted the best for Germany, and did a lot of good things while making a few small mistakes along the way. Please stop dishonestly characterizing my position as apologizing for Hitler.

perfect. thanks for posting this perfect example of how you shape and shift peoples arguments into something they aren't. you're dq'd
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
gn - it never ends with you. you're completely full of shit and you are a filthy debater. I tried man. I tried to read your post. And yeah, I knew it would be full of twists and lies - you always switch your own argument in the slightest ways AND the change the oppositions whenever you see it beneficial to you. It's pathetic, and you do it ever so discreetly. it's always the same with you, i have to go back and review your original points and mine because just to get the real story

so i tried to read your next post, but I caught you on bullshit within the very first sentence. because of this, i gave up on reading even a spec of the rest.

But here's the issue as it pertains to ur first sentence

your argument went from

"Morons like Swift are completely incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale so everything this retard says is framed around THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS lol."

This is not a provable point, on either side. I denied it, and stated that I am considering a global perspective when I say CEO's work harder than the average worker and for you to suggest otherwise is an inkling of suspicion and nothing more. At the end of the day, the only thing I am denying is the accusation that i don't think of such on a global scale.

But you wouldn't let it go, so you change your argument ever so slightly (as always) to

"your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective"

First you're straight up accusing me of being unable to think of things on a global scale, from oh "well he's just not acknowledging it"

I'm sure the rest of your post is filled with slight variations of your arguments, random additions to mine made by you, and tons and tons of gray throughout your wordage to prevent people from ever truly pinning you down. i'm done with you
And just to make a pre-reply to whatever bullshit twist you'll pull out of your ass again:

If in your original post you said "your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective" then yeah, I would have agreed. i absolutely didn't use third worlder type examples or put a post-it disclaimer on my forehead "Please be advised, I take things into a global perspective not just a national one"

But that's not what you said, you claimed im incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale - and that's what I was arguing, not ur shift in argument

filthy debater


I'm not saying Hitler wasn't bad, I'm just saying he was deep down a good person who just wanted the best for Germany, and did a lot of good things while making a few small mistakes along the way. Please stop dishonestly characterizing my position as apologizing for Hitler.

perfect. thanks for posting this perfect example of how you shape and shift peoples arguments into something they aren't. you're dq'd

Nice meltdown.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 02:39:49 PM
me after reading gn's post

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ITQN7Mseo0#)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 02:54:52 PM
I'll lay down yet another layer of ownage here though:

gn - it never ends with you. you're completely full of shit and you are a filthy debater. I tried man. I tried to read your post. And yeah, I knew it would be full of twists and lies

Can you point out the specific "twists" and lies" contained in the post? I don't think I actually did these things, but I am willing to entertain the notion that I am mistaken if you have evidence to back this statement up. Do you?

Also, if you refer to something like characterizing your arguments as apologia for the rich as a "lie" or "twisting your argument," I ask that you please respond to my explanation for why I characterized your argument this way and explain why its wrong. If you are unable or unwilling to do this you should acknowledge you are not equipped to participate in a good faith discussion on this topic.

- you always switch your own argument in the slightest ways AND the change the oppositions whenever you see it beneficial to you. It's pathetic, and you do it ever so discreetly.

Where did I do this exactly? Or did I use my secret filthy debating powers to do it so "discreetly" that you nor anyone else can point to it?

it's always the same with you, i have to go back and review your original points and mine because just to get the real story

Yes, that's part of participating in a debate or a discussion. I often go back and review previous posts I made and previous posts you made to make sure I am not making inaccurate statements, or to review the context of the discussion, or any number of other reasons. If this is too mentally challenging for you maybe you should play Angry Birds in your free time instead.

But here's the issue as it pertains to ur first sentence

your argument went from

"Morons like Swift are completely incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale so everything this retard says is framed around THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS lol."

This is not a provable point, on either side. I denied it, and stated that I am considering a global perspective when I say CEO's work harder than the average worker and for you to suggest otherwise is an inkling of suspicion and nothing more. At the end of the day, the only thing I am denying is the accusation that i don't think of such on a global scale.

Yes, and I laid out my reasons for why you do not seem to think of such things on a global scale, and how your arguments fail to acknowledge a global perspective. You have yet to respond to these reasons, you simply just say "actually, I do have a global perspective," without actually pointing out how my statements on this topic are incorrect specifically. You can respond to them now if you like.

Once again, it is not based on an "inkling of suspicion" that you don't acknowledge a global perspective in your arguments. I read your arguments and evaluated them from a global perspective, and found them completely lacking, and explained why. That is not "suspicion," that is an objective evaluation of your statements and arguments, that they lack a global perspective for the reasons I already articulated. Again, you are free to respond to those reasons now, if you like.

But you wouldn't let it go, so you change your argument ever so slightly (as always) to

"your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective"

First you're straight up accusing me of being unable to think of things on a global scale, from oh "well he's just not acknowledging it"

I'm sure the rest of your post is filled with slight variations of your arguments, random additions to mine made by you, and tons and tons of gray throughout your wordage to prevent people from ever truly pinning you down. i'm done with you

Lol, really Swift? I said you are not able to understand these issues on a global perspective. My evidence and backing for this assertion? The fact that your arguments, as presented, lack a global perspective. It is not a huge leap of logic to presume you yourself lack that perspective if your arguments also do, because if you yourself had that perspective, why would you omit it from your argument or position? Would it also be unfair for me to say a person who claims the sun revolves around the Earth lacks a scientific perspective? Should I instead assume that actually they do not lack that perspective, but deliberately ignored it or omitted it from their statement about the Earth's solar rotation for some strange, arcane reason? That doesn't make a lot of sense Swift. I think it actually makes more sense that if someone articulates a position that shows a stunning lack of knowledge or perspective on a given subject to assume that they lack that knowledge and/or perspective, rather than assume that they do not but are pretending that they do for...what reason, exactly?

Your statement basically boils down to "it is not fair to assume I lack a global perspective on capitalism just because my sincere and earnest arguments about capitalism lack that perspective." Well, I disagree. Assuming you are arguing in good faith I think that is a fair assumption to make. I think if you did have that perspective it would actually be incorporated into your arguments. I suppose it is possible you are deliberately making dumb arguments that you don't believe or support, but it does not seem likely.

And just to make a pre-reply to whatever bullshit twist you'll pull out of your ass again:

Huh? I thought you were done with me?

If in your original post you said "your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective" then yeah, I would have agreed. i absolutely didn't use third worlder type examples or put a post-it disclaimer on my forehead "Please be advised, I take things into a global perspective not just a national one"

But that's not what you said, you claimed im incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale - and that's what I was arguing, not ur shift in argument

filthy debater

Wait...so your defense actually is that you do have a global perspective, but just omit it from your arguments and positions for some reason? Lol. I actually wrote that out before I read this, I can't believe you're this desperate to score points. No, sorry, if your arguments lack a global perspective and you are arguing in sincerity it is perfectly reasonable to assume you lack that perspective yourself. I could be wrong about that, and have given you several opportunities to articulate your position in a way that does acknowledge a global perspective, but you have failed to do so, and with each failure to do so I become more and more confident in my original assumption that you do not understand these issues from such a perspective. Get owned bitch!!!

perfect. thanks for posting this perfect example of how you shape and shift peoples arguments into something they aren't.

You're welcome. And, again, nice meltdown.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 03:02:35 PM
You are dq'd due to being caught countless times distorting your very own arguments as well as your oppositions'. your posts are no longer eligible for review
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 03:05:54 PM
You are dq'd due to being caught countless times distorting your very own arguments as well as your oppositions'. your posts are no longer eligible for review

You got owned and now you're melting down really hard, and its funny.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 03:18:58 PM
you said i am " incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale", and the so called evidence you provide for this is that its true because i didn't have anything in particular  that proves otherwise within my posts. That is not logical.

so you bait and switch your argument to stating I didn't presently acknowledge anything globally - which is true, but this wasn't your original claim. it's simple. i don't need to read your posts and reply to every detail, you switched your argument, as you always do, and that's not how it works. you can go create lengthy replies, and think you won something because your overall care-factor fuels your endurance to a point that far exceeds my patience with you. but the fact remains, you changed arguments and are trying to make me defend against a point that wasn't originally made.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
you said i am " incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale", and the so called evidence you provide for this is that its true because i didn't have anything in particular  that proves otherwise within my posts. That is not logical.

It actually is logical to assume that, if someone is arguing in sincerity, and their sincere arguments are missing certain facts or perspective critical to their argument having a connection to reality, that they actually lack that information. People generally do not omit certain fundamental parts of their world view when expressing sincere opinions, unless it is a mistake or an oversight. I acknowledged that the latter happens and have given you a number of opportunities to show that you do actually have a global perspective and that its lacking in previous arguments was a mistake or an oversight, but instead you stamp your feet and accuse me of being dishonest for asking you to explain yourself, which as I said makes me more and more sure of the accuracy of my initial assumption as time goes on.

so you bait and switch your argument to stating I didn't presently acknowledge anything globally -

Rofl, bait and switch? Fuck you are reaching. Again, it is not at all illogical or dishonest or unfair to assume that someone's ostensibly sincere opinions are based around their world view. If your sincere opinions lack a global perspective, it is not illogical, dishonest or unfair to assume that you yourself lack that perspective, and that is why it is not incorporated in your argument. The two are closely related and even your dumb ass wouldn't argue otherwise if you being owned so hard by me wasn't clouding your ability to think rationally.

which is true,

Just quoting for the record that you agree that your position here is completely lacking a global perspective, which is the basis for my statement that you yourself lack that perspective.

i don't need to read your posts and reply to every detail, you switched your argument, as you always do, and that's not how it works.

No, I never switched my argument. I still maintain the argument that you yourself lack a global perspective on these issues. This argument is based on the fact, acknowledged by you, that the arguments you have presented in this thread lack a global perspective. These opinions can be held at the same time and are not contradictory, in fact they are complementary.

you can go create lengthy replies, and think you won something because your overall care-factor fuels your endurance to a point that far exceeds my patience with you.

Stop projecting in your meltdowns. You're the guy who claimed you were "done" like three posts ago. I don't care to argue about who has more "care" here but your inability to stop replying along with your silly posturing acting as if you are going to stop replying any second because you are too good for this doesn't really make you look very chill on that front.

but the fact remains, you changed arguments and are trying to make me defend a point that wasn't originally made.

I didn't make you do anything, and I didn't switch arguments, as previously explained. I assume this is your second acknowledgement that the arguments you've articulated in this thread lack a global perspective, and as such should be dismissed by globally minded individuals?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 04:02:32 PM
i'm actually surprised you consider that logical. I would have that beneath even you. You're the worst, now you're even defending your illogical conclusion with illogical reasoning. you're saying that anytime someone presents an argument they have to clarify and present all the fundamental facts surrounding the subject before proceeding, or it is assumed they are not aware of such. No, tacit information is regularly skipped over in conversation and debates, in all walks of lives, on all subjects, over and over.

it's silly and embarrassing for you, just stop.

also, the rest of your post is full of bullshit and lies to
 
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
the average worker is harder working than the average CEO, even CEOs know this.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 04:25:08 PM
the average worker is harder working than the average CEO, even CEOs know this.

That's fine. We completely disagree.

At least our exchange isn't like

"in my opinion ceo's work harder, longer hours, and have more stressful jobs than the average worker" - swift

"but bro, clarify in detail that you are aware these corporations employee people all around the world and not just in the states otherwise you just look stupid bro, like you're forgetting the globe man" -gn

"oh? fuck, god im an idiot. you've totally provided proof that I am unaware of capitalism's impact on workers outside the states. my first post completely makes us aware of this" -said nobody ever
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 04:30:49 PM
i'm actually surprised you consider that logical. I would have that beneath even you. You're the worst, now you're even defending your illogical conclusion with illogical reasoning. you're saying that anytime someone presents an argument they have to clarify and present all the fundamental facts surrounding the subject before proceeding, or it is assumed they are not aware of such.

I'm pretty sure that is not what I said Swift. I said if an argument is presented lacking certain critical information that would show that argument to be false, and the argument is being made in earnest, it stands to reason the person is unaware of that information. As I have said a number of times it does not mean it is absolutely true they don't have that information, its not being included or considered could be an error, which is why I have given you numerous opportunities to correct that error and square your characterization of the executive who works more than the average member of the global working class with the material reality of capitalism and the tangible effects on one's relation to labor (labor would be the "hard work" we are discussing) that I have described previously. At every opportunity you refuse to do so and instead personally attack me and accuse me of lying, largely without articulating what I am lying about, but then when you rarely do I patiently and in detail explain why it is not a lie. And then the loop continues as you accuse me of lying again.

Basically you are a pissy pants baby mad about getting owned and that I'm smarter than you and you can't win this argument, and rather than humbly admitting you have a lot to learn (as I do, though not from you) you just make vague accusations of me lying or "twisting your arguments". It is telling that you don't respond to direct statements I have made and do not cite specific instances of me lying when you make these accusations.

 
No, tacit information is regularly skipped over in conversation and debates, in all walks of lives, on all subjects, over and over.

When certain premises are assumed to be shared, yes, it is natural to gloss that over. However, in this case the premises are not shared and are actually what is in contention (what constitutes "hard work"), and the "tacit information" you are skipping over is information that directly puts the lie to your argument, so this is quite different.

 
it's silly and embarrassing for you, just stop.

Yeah that was pretty embarrassing when I said I was done with this and then kept replying to you because I was in the middle of a meltdown. Oh wait, that was you, lol.

 
also, the rest of your post is full of bullshit and lies to

Yikes, how can I argue with that? Stop owning me so hard please.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
the average worker is harder working than the average CEO, even CEOs know this.

That's fine. We completely disagree.

At least our exchange isn't like

"in my opinion ceo's work harder, longer hours, and have more stressful jobs than the average worker" - swift

"but bro, clarify in detail that you are aware these corporations employee people all around the world and not just in the states otherwise you just look stupid bro, like you're forgetting the globe man" -gn

"oh? fuck, god im an idiot. you've totally provided proof that I am unaware of capitalism's impact on workers outside the states. my first post completely makes us aware of this" -said nobody ever

So you've melted down to the point that you don't even care about debating the issue and are just using it as a jumping off point to cry about how mean and unfair I am, after everyone can see I've engaged you reasonably, patiently, and factually, down to this very post. Mmmm, exquisite meltdown *chef kissing fingers*
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 04:44:39 PM
Given me numerous times to clarify? I don't need to clarify in any real detail that I am aware of corporations taking part in global job outsourcing, running sweatshops with poor working conditions, human rights and labor law abuses etc. You can ask basically anyone about this shit, it's pretty much common knowledge at this point. Almost everyone is aware of it to some decent extent. And it's not some secret password of information that needs to be revealed before one is afforded the right to speak on his perspectives as it pertains to work loads/duties in our capitalist society.

I'm sorry you assumed I was drawing borders to our growing global capitalist society. You had no reason to do so, and no reason can be used to conclude as to why a reasonable person would assume such. Like I said, the information you want clarified is tacit information, and you're dumb for arguing that it needs to be stated. I'm sorry you drew to conclusions with no merit, and then warped your argument too. But hey man, you were just giving me an opportunity to say the sky is blue, and that large capitalist corporations fuck the whole world not just the states.

Next time someone gets into an argument with me about which way is easier to cut the grass, I'll make sure they first clarify that it's green. Thanks man.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 05:03:44 PM


That's fine. We completely disagree.


yea i just don't understand how you're disagreeing with reality.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 05:08:50 PM
Given me numerous times to clarify? I don't need to clarify in any real detail that I am aware of corporations taking part in global job outsourcing, running sweatshops with poor working conditions, human rights and labor law abuses etc. You can ask basically anyone about this shit, it's pretty much common knowledge at this point. Almost everyone is aware of it to some decent extent. And it's not some secret password of information that needs to be revealed before one is afforded the right to speak on his perspectives as it pertains to work loads/duties in our capitalist society.


I explained several posts ago, this morning, how your superficial understanding of these things is not incorporated into your argument about the "hard work" of executives relative to the working class. Here is the link since you are too lazy and stupid to go back and read it yourself: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,879.msg24839.html#msg24839 (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,879.msg24839.html#msg24839) As I have said numerous times, your argument fails to take into account the relationship each class has towards the means of production and how this materially affects their relation to labor, which is directly related to the experience of "hard work." Saying "I know what a sweatshop is" doesn't suddenly mean that information is incorporated into your argument of "executives tend to work harder than the working class."

I'm sorry you assumed I was drawing borders to our growing global capitalist society. You had no reason to do so, and no reason can be used to conclude as to why a reasonable person would assume such. Like I said, the information you want clarified is tacit information, and you're dumb for arguing that it needs to be stated.


"No reason to do so?" Your comparison of an executive's "hard work" to the working class never discussed the absolutely deplorable conditions the majority of the world's working class works in, the hours they work for, the wages they make, the effect of their labor on themselves and their families and communities. These are all integral to the topic and are completely unacknowledged by you. You may "know" that the working class does deal with these conditions, but they are not incorporated into your argument about the nature or degree of "hard work" of an executive versus the working class. The rest of your post is gibberish and you are still melting down.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 05:11:07 PM


That's fine. We completely disagree.


yea i just don't understand how you're disagreeing with reality.

He's a retarded liberal idealist who thinks "who works harder, an executive in an air-conditioned office or a Bangladeshi factory worker working 75 hours a week in a crumbling death trap factory with no air conditioning or fire escapes" is a matter of opinion and not material reality.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
"our comparison of an executive's "hard work" to the working class never discussed the absolutely deplorable conditions the majority of the world's working class works in, the hours they work for, the wages they make, the effect of their labor on themselves and their families and communities."

actually, it did
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 05:19:33 PM
"our comparison of an executive's "hard work" to the working class never discussed the absolutely deplorable conditions the majority of the world's working class works in, the hours they work for, the wages they make, the effect of their labor on themselves and their families and communities."

actually, it did

Okay, show me where you did this then.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 05:26:09 PM
it's not my job to keep you up to par. something tells me you'll find it anyway. you're dedicated.

p.s. i covered it twice
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 05:35:21 PM
it's not my job to keep you up to par. something tells me you'll find it anyway. you're dedicated.

p.s. i covered it twice


I looked and I did not find it. I was courteous enough to link you to one of my previous posts to clarify an issue, if you are participating in this discussion in good faith it should not be a problem to do the same. Especially if you are sure you said this, it should be fairly simple to find the post and link me to it, or to at least quote the relevant portion, as I have done for you.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 05:35:44 PM
A lot of the CEO leeches do work like 75 hours a week and grind their teeth in their sleep and take tons of speed etc.  Like the proletariat needs to be liberated from exploitation, these bougies too need to be liberated, from their lives.

thats all i am saying. minus the liberation from their lives part of course O_o

interesting that you would guess teeth grinding to be a significant problem. my business is obviously only small scale and i am not dealing with the same stress as these types we talk about probably do, and i work more like 60 hr/wk but i grind hardcore and have massive sleep problems.


I WAS WAITING FOR IT.

this shit right here literally gets me belly laughing
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 05:36:32 PM
p.s.s. i currently am directly affiliated with outsourcing approximately 15 jobs to individuals in countries like the Philippines, India, Bangladeshi, el Salvador and so forth.

Some of these individuals act as virtual assistants for tech jobs, marketing and as well as customer relations in acquisitions & sales, other's are employed by companies who hire them to produce certain goods for us at discounted prices. In every scenerio, we are in direct communication with the labour

lets talk about this next.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 05:36:43 PM
the CEO of Volkswagen just got 30 mill for cheating and being complacent in crimes against the environment and human health.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 05:38:13 PM

I WAS WAITING FOR IT.

this shit right here literally gets me belly laughing



he has to defend these multimillionaires/billionaires, he'll be one someday. only temporarily embarrassed.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 05:39:27 PM
p.s.s. i currently am directly affiliated with outsourcing approximately 15 jobs to individuals in countries like the Philippines, India, Bangladeshi, el Salvador and so forth.

Some of these individuals act as virtual assistants for tech jobs, marketing and as well as customer relations in acquisitions & sales, other's are employed by companies who hire them to produce certain goods for us at discounted prices. In every scenerio, we are in direct communication with the labour

lets talk about this next.


i am fucking dying right now

(http://media.giphy.com/media/vWDrezW0rMjmM/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 05:39:34 PM
it's not my job to keep you up to par. something tells me you'll find it anyway. you're dedicated.

p.s. i covered it twice


I looked and I did not find it. I was courteous enough to link you to one of my previous posts to clarify an issue, if you are participating in this discussion in good faith it should not be a problem to do the same. Especially if you are sure you said this, it should be fairly simple to find the post and link me to it, or to at least quote the relevant portion, as I have done for you.
it's not my job to keep you up to par. something tells me you'll find it anyway. you're dedicated.

p.s. i covered it twice


I looked and I did not find it. I was courteous enough to link you to one of my previous posts to clarify an issue, if you are participating in this discussion in good faith it should not be a problem to do the same. Especially if you are sure you said this, it should be fairly simple to find the post and link me to it, or to at least quote the relevant portion, as I have done for you.

We've posted for like 4 pages, and some of them are rather long posts. You can search anytime you want. However, I'll paraphrase - basically I stated that there are many individuals who have poor working conditions, and that these are the exceptions to the rule / and I am not taking such into account with my argument as it's not measurable. I think I even at one point mentioned the air conditioning example like you did? maybe not, but I was definitely thinking it.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 05:40:58 PM
the guy lives in his parents basement.

is swift very intelligent? yes.

does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 05:43:39 PM
the guy lives in his parents basement.

is swift very intelligent? yes.

does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.

I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the  bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 05:51:21 PM
the guy lives in his parents basement.

is swift very intelligent? yes.

does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.


I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the  bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react



(http://i.imgur.com/HUG77qv.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:06:18 PM
I got just over 2700 cash on me right now.. so we'll go with that.

(http://i.imgur.com/uJDInvo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ki2es8m.jpg)

yes. i realize i fucked up the middle pile.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:07:44 PM
You want me to match $2700?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:14:33 PM
sure.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 06:15:31 PM
holy fuck, delete this thread.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 06:16:17 PM

An Error Has Occurred!
You cannot delete your own topics in this board. Check to make sure this topic wasn't just moved to another board.


plz mods
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:16:21 PM
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 06:17:41 PM
or better yet delete tk's posts
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:18:26 PM
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum



i can see the squirming already.

it was your idea... i dont brag about how much money i have. 2700 isn't even a lot of money. anyone who thinks 2700 is "showing off" doesn't have a lot of money.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:19:53 PM
u just werent expecting me to call you out on your bluff
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:20:17 PM
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 24, 2015, 06:22:04 PM
Post the money, swiftone.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 06:23:51 PM
no moron. move their posts to another new thread ..
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:25:22 PM
Post the money, swiftone.

$2700? What does that do? Prove I'm probably not a basement dwelling nerd who lives with mum?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:27:22 PM
it was your idea ... you tell me what you thought it would prove?

i'd say if you can come up with 2700 liquid cash there's a good chance you're not living off of disability or your parent's allowance in my mind.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:29:09 PM
i don't think you actually think I live with my mom. i'm 26 asshole.

give me a much more nominal amount maybe
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 06:31:18 PM
p.s.s. i currently am directly affiliated with outsourcing approximately 15 jobs to individuals in countries like the Philippines, India, Bangladeshi, el Salvador and so forth.

Some of these individuals act as virtual assistants for tech jobs, marketing and as well as customer relations in acquisitions & sales, other's are employed by companies who hire them to produce certain goods for us at discounted prices. In every scenerio, we are in direct communication with the labour

lets talk about this next.

Lol what is there to talk about? Congrats on finding a racket I guess? Or are you trying to portray yourself as some kind of great white angel of mercy profiting off these people?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:33:55 PM
ok. i feel like i proved my point. i make like 40K a year (ive been given a couple raises since we last discussed my income) which isn't shit and i can come up with quite a bit more than 2700 liquid cash in the next 20 minutes, and would if i had made the claim that i would be able to. you claim to make like 10x that in 1 month and are trying to squirm your way out of it.

have fun trying to convince people you're a well-off businessman.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:35:44 PM
How much could you come up within 20 minutes?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 06:36:56 PM
So when you posting the money?


Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC 8000X using Tapatalk
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:37:57 PM
as much as the ATM would let me take out (unless it has over 15K in it).. me and my wife are saving for a house.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:38:46 PM
he's not. he's going to re-direct the conversation to other areas until it's the last thing on anyone's mind.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
So 15k is your max?

wow... some people really want me to do this. hrm... peer pressure
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 06:40:20 PM
We've posted for like 4 pages, and some of them are rather long posts. You can search anytime you want.

I did and did not find it. Further, as I said, I've had no problem doing this for you a number of times. My conclusion is either that you refuse to do so, because you know you didn't say that and are being dishonest, or you are too stupid to do so. I find both scenarios plausible so I won't venture a guess as to which one is correct for now.

However, I'll paraphrase - basically I stated that there are many individuals who have poor working conditions, and that these are the exceptions to the rule / [and I am not taking such into account with my argument as it's not measurable.

Wait, what? Lol, the fuck? Let's break this down for a second. First, "exceptions to the rule." Please substantiate that people in exceedingly poor working conditions are "the exception to the rule." What do you base this on? Do you think the majority of laborers live in wealthy countries with strong labor laws? Because I do not believe that is the case. Substantiate this assertion.

Second, the fact that it is "not measurable" (what exactly is not measurable?) is not a reason to not factor such into your argument. Qualitative data has value. And especially when...

...third, your assertion that executives "work harder than the average worker" is at least as not measurable as the assertion that a great many laborers, perhaps the majority, work in poor conditions. In fact its even less measurable - we could define a threshold by which "poor working conditions" are established, and then take a look at the data and determine roughly how many working class laborers live in countries where such conditions are widespread and permitted via a lack of labor protections, if we had the will and resources to do so. The argument of who "works harder" is much more subjective than that in the way you frame this concept, since you frame it as largely a matter of subjective individual perception and experience rather than quantitative data.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 06:40:38 PM
the guy lives in his parents basement.

is swift very intelligent? yes.

does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.


I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the  bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react



([url]http://i.imgur.com/HUG77qv.jpg[/url])

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 06:42:15 PM
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum


Rofl shut the fuck up you stupid little hypocrite bitch. He's being a douche but you're the one who initiated the douche-off and now that you got called out you're trying to act like you're better than him.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:44:18 PM
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum


Rofl shut the fuck up you stupid little hypocrite bitch. He's being a douche but you're the one who initiated the douche-off and now that you got called out you're trying to act like you're better than him.

I'm afraid to dive into this with you just to see you change both your argument and mine over the course of 3-4 pages.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:45:30 PM
tk - gauging by the smile on your face in that pic it seems you're pretty thrilled to have $2700. poor much?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:46:05 PM
So 15k is your max?

wow... some people really want me to do this. hrm... peer pressure

im not pulling 15K out. i never said i would. I could (and would) if i had the desire to do so, but im not trying to convince anyone im a baller.

i had 2700 on hand.. i feel like if i go lower it would be either 1) an amount that doesn't prove shit and 2) and amount you could withdraw from your parent's account without them getting upset.

going higher would be a huge inconvenience so i wont ask for like 10K

again, this was your idea.

we can make it if that helps you 2500 .. idc.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:46:39 PM
tk - gauging by the smile on your face in that pic it seems you're pretty thrilled to have $2700. poor much?
i was smiling because when i was taking it i knew "this will make swift squirm"

and sure as shit... here we are.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 06:47:57 PM
god damn tk posts his stupid ass neckbeard face with dirty ass money around it on the bed he sleeps on, rofl.  who asked to see your rent money though?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 06:48:41 PM
"check out this money i'm about to give to my landlord"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:50:30 PM
money doesn't make someone a baller. especially only 15k lol

$2,700 wouldn't shut you up tk

you would just be at it again. pick an amount that will shut you up
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:50:45 PM
even if that were the case (which it isnt..) i'd still have 1900 cash after i paid the landlord

if you're paying 2700 for rent you're probably living in san diego or NYC.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 24, 2015, 06:50:50 PM
Everyone post the most money you can.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:52:25 PM
"check out this money i'm about to give to my landlord"

LOL
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:55:12 PM
money doesn't make someone a baller. especially only 15k lol

$2,700 wouldn't shut you up tk

you would just be at it again. pick an amount that will shut you up

if you could pull out 2700 in the next hour and take your picture or whatever i'd be convinced you're not some extremely intelligent bum living off of disability or your parent's allowance.

right now im pretty convinced that's exactly what you are. a very smart person probably riding on the coat tails of your parents who fabricates a life to impress people online.. and you're smart enough to make lots of people believe it.

the reason i don't believe it is because i know a lot of people in construction and real-estate and none of them piddle fuck on the internet 12 hours a day... they are out getting the money that they dont need to pretend to have because everyone knows they have it including themselves.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
even if that were the case (which it isnt..) i'd still have 1900 cash after i paid the landlord

if you're paying 2700 for rent you're probably living in san diego or NYC.


no one cares. wow you got money for your labour, you're a cool guy. this is fucking garbage. wage earners trying to show off who has more fiat currency. actually this is good proof of the disease capitalism causes.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 24, 2015, 06:57:44 PM
Post $50, jon.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:58:11 PM
money doesn't make someone a baller. especially only 15k lol

$2,700 wouldn't shut you up tk

you would just be at it again. pick an amount that will shut you up

if you could pull out 2700 in the next hour and take your picture or whatever i'd be convinced you're not some extremely intelligent bum living off of disability or your parent's allowance.

right now im pretty convinced that's exactly what you are. a very smart person probably riding on the coat tails of your parents who fabricates a life to impress people online.. and you're smart enough to make lots of people believe it.

the reason i don't believe it is because i know a lot of people in construction and real-estate and none of them piddle fuck on the internet 12 hours a day... they are out getting the money that they dont need to pretend to have because everyone knows they have it including themselves.

drive to bank for just $2,700? not worth it, no thanks.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:58:19 PM
how is taking a picture with 2700 showing off. there is nothing impressive about that.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 06:58:33 PM
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum


Rofl shut the fuck up you stupid little hypocrite bitch. He's being a douche but you're the one who initiated the douche-off and now that you got called out you're trying to act like you're better than him.

I'm afraid to dive into this with you just to see you change both your argument and mine over the course of 3-4 pages.


Keep digging that hole you fucking retard. How the fuck do you get owned by TK of all people lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 06:59:12 PM
Post $50, jon.

lmfao
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 06:59:48 PM
money doesn't make someone a baller. especially only 15k lol

$2,700 wouldn't shut you up tk

you would just be at it again. pick an amount that will shut you up

if you could pull out 2700 in the next hour and take your picture or whatever i'd be convinced you're not some extremely intelligent bum living off of disability or your parent's allowance.

right now im pretty convinced that's exactly what you are. a very smart person probably riding on the coat tails of your parents who fabricates a life to impress people online.. and you're smart enough to make lots of people believe it.

the reason i don't believe it is because i know a lot of people in construction and real-estate and none of them piddle fuck on the internet 12 hours a day... they are out getting the money that they dont need to pretend to have because everyone knows they have it including themselves.

drive to bank for just $2,700? not worth it, no thanks.


gg. again... have fun trying to convince people you're some sort of real estate mogul
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 07:00:38 PM
"check out this money i'm about to give to my landlord"

LOL

LOL! Good one Jon! TK is such a douche! We're buds now and you don't think I'm a retard anymore right?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 07:01:03 PM
i thought your number would at least be above 10k tk
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 07:02:30 PM
how is taking a picture with 2700 showing off. there is nothing impressive about that.
i agree. why are you doing it?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
tk - gauging by the smile on your face in that pic it seems you're pretty thrilled to have $2700. poor much?

It's funny how desperate this idiot is to try to stop getting owned. First he tries to act like he's some big money hot shot and own TK that way, then when TK calls his bluff he tries to act like he's too good to act like money makes you cool, and now he's back to calling the guy poor because to a big shot like Swift $2700 is chump change.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 24, 2015, 07:03:34 PM
Post $50, jon.

lmfao

LOL POOR PEOPLE
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 07:04:08 PM
Post $50, jon.

lmfao

LOL POOR PEOPLE

it was funny -_-'
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Post $50, jon.

lmfao

LOL POOR PEOPLE

Swift is really owning people hard by quoting other people joking with the people he's arguing with and saying "LOL!"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 07:06:15 PM

So 15k is your max?

wow... some people really want me to do this. hrm... peer pressure

So your not gonna post the money...??


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 07:06:47 PM
the guy lives in his parents basement.

is swift very intelligent? yes.

does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.

I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the  bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react


ill just leave this here ... later.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 07:07:49 PM

So 15k is your max?

wow... some people really want me to do this. hrm... peer pressure

So your not gonna post the money...??


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 07:08:00 PM
Swift is getting BiZaTcHed in this thread.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 07:10:07 PM
Probably the best way to salvage your dignity at this point is to say you were drunk all day and apologize for being such a worthless retarded turd.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 07:12:51 PM

Probably the best way to salvage your dignity at this point is to say you were drunk all day and apologize for being such a worthless retarded turd.

Or just say you hacked his account, same level of mental retardation from what I can see


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 07:16:34 PM
tk's trolling and lighthearted as always, blid's at least mildly amused, evil ryu is saddened by the lack of money pics, jon is concerned about the poor people and you're over here acting like it's some serious business.

your perspective on this is as twisted as my arguments become after you've had the chance to reword them and reply
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 07:29:06 PM
im not trolling. i would just like to see you come to a place in your life where you are comfortable in your own skin and dont feel the need to fabricate lies to impress other people.

until then, i'm going to call you out on your b.s. when i see it <3

people who make lots of money dont have time to chat on war2 during the entire normal work day. every time you fabricate shit and try to get people to believe fake shit it's insulting imo.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
i don't make great efforts to get anyone to know anything about me. i'm just saying if it'll make you shut up (and feel dumb), and give me a pseudo win over you, then i am willing to prove otherwise but you'd need to let me know what amount would truly make you feel like you're an idiot and not smart and like you're 0-1. everyone has $2700, that wont do it
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 07:41:01 PM
you're a joke. you asked me a number. i gave one. you said "no".

then is said "well make it 10k or 20k.. idc"  .. still nothing

you bailed out on your own idea lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 07:41:49 PM
10/20k is still nothing?

what's something?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 24, 2015, 07:48:31 PM
you cant even come up with 2700 lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 07:54:06 PM
k
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 24, 2015, 08:04:44 PM
Someone besides tk post some fucking money in this thread already.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 09:17:06 PM
tk's trolling and lighthearted as always, blid's at least mildly amused, evil ryu is saddened by the lack of money pics, jon is concerned about the poor people and you're over here acting like it's some serious business.

your perspective on this is as twisted as my arguments become after you've had the chance to reword them and reply

Lol you're even trying to ingratiate yourself to TK now after he owned you, because you've been owned by me so hard. You're a fucking pathetic groveling bitch for real, and I say that sincerely, absent any internet insult hyperbole. Shameful fucking shit. Get off this message board and get your priorities straight you complete fucking retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 09:26:12 PM
can't tell if you twisted and contorted everything in your head throughout the course of twisting and contorting each of our arguments or if you just all of a sudden came up with the idea that you won something

also, you should stop exploiting your employer by scrolling the inter webs all day. i can't imagine what other sites you regularly subscribe to 24/7
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 09:32:18 PM
can't tell if you twisted and contorted everything in your head throughout the course of twisting and contorting each of our arguments or if you just all of a sudden came up with the idea that you won something

Wow, more epic ownage from the Swiftmeister.

also, you should stop exploiting your employer by scrolling the inter webs all day. i can't imagine what other sites you regularly subscribe to 24/7

Rofl. Yeah, I post on the clock bitch. What are you going to do? Tell my boss? You're such a little faggot lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 09:34:56 PM
"Um, excuthe me, thir, I believe one of your employeeth, real name ghothnuke two thouthand, ith thurfing the internet during work hourth. Jutht wanted to let you know, thince I take thith kind of thing very theriouthly."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 24, 2015, 09:36:24 PM
bitches about how the system works, meanwhile contributes nothing to society and gets a free ride^
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 10:21:13 PM
bitches about how the system works, meanwhile contributes nothing to society and gets a free ride^

You've been melting down for like 12 hours straight at this point.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 10:23:39 PM
Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I don't like or support how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 10:24:59 PM

Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.

Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 10:25:21 PM
Where's the money Swift? Lol, fucking loser.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 10:25:57 PM

Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.

Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...


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Thanks for contributing, retard who no one cares about or likes.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 10:30:31 PM


Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.

Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...


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Thanks for contributing, retard who no one cares about or likes.

Hmm, I wanna see a poll.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 10:49:37 PM


Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.

Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...


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Thanks for contributing, retard who no one cares about or likes.

Hmm, I wanna see a poll.


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Post one, if you're not a pussy.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 10:50:29 PM
(http://s18.postimg.org/dxpg4mcbt/ryu2_2.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 24, 2015, 10:55:50 PM



Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.

Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...


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Thanks for contributing, retard who no one cares about or likes.

Hmm, I wanna see a poll.


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Post one, if you're not a pussy.

I don't care man, I'll let you do it. You seem to love the attention.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 24, 2015, 11:03:18 PM
I don't care man, I'll let you do it. You seem to love the attention.

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Hm, you brought it up, so you seem more likely to care than me, but okay.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 25, 2015, 04:53:36 AM
Where's the money Swift? Lol, fucking loser.

How much? $2,700?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 25, 2015, 06:25:08 AM
Where's the money Swift? Lol, fucking loser.

How much? $2,700?

Lol I've never seen someone triple and quadruple down on getting owned so much.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 25, 2015, 10:44:55 AM
Did anyone post $3000 in this thread yet?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 25, 2015, 11:38:49 AM

Did anyone post $3000 in this thread yet?

(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Money-Money.jpg)


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 25, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I don't like or support how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.

you're thinking about it all wrong. what i am saying is that you're a lazy free loader who adopted your current favored economic and political spectrum as a means to rationalize your pitiful lifestyle.

now you proceed to make excuses as to why others are successful and not you, to make yourself feel better and you use me as an example. my parents don't help me at all, and my privilege although hugely prevalent to worldy standards, being that I am a white male american, i still have no more opportunity or privilege than others in that same catagory, such as you. i am not exceptionally smart, i didn't get a free ride through college, i didn't meet the right people who helped me to become successful, but i did go flat broke once three years ago, and i have been homeless twice already at 26, and started my first business off of a very small amount of $

if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.

The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do. meanwhile, you'll do no more impact in your life than dedicate your time to being mediocre at video games and being a cheat debater on forums over a topic that you're slightly more educated than the average person on. i think this forums halts your maturity too, you haven't grown up one bit. aside from the tk trolling stuff i stay pretty calm, mature and respectful on here nowadays, including the whole time i talk to you, meanwhile you're going around saying "lol you're such a faggot" and calling people names and treating people like evil~ryi like shit and it seems like to you it's a school yard fight in grade school...i can't even begin to wrap my head around how much of a punk kid you are.

call me a rager or something, but i really had a good time writing this out and i hope the mild truths in it about you bother you a bit even though you'll never show it because these forums are like your stomping grounds...lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 25, 2015, 10:48:30 PM

-you hate capitalism because you're jealous of "successful" people
-white privilege isn't real.
-i was homeless but my sick wicked work ethnic brought me out of my slump
-never had help, i'm a self-made man

liberal bingo
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 25, 2015, 11:42:24 PM
Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I don't like or support how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.

you're thinking about it all wrong. what i am saying is that you're a lazy free loader who adopted your current favored economic and political spectrum as a means to rationalize your pitiful lifestyle.

now you proceed to make excuses as to why others are successful and not you, to make yourself feel better and you use me as an example. my parents don't help me at all, and my privilege although hugely prevalent to worldy standards, being that I am a white male american, i still have no more opportunity or privilege than others in that same catagory, such as you. i am not exceptionally smart, i didn't get a free ride through college, i didn't meet the right people who helped me to become successful, but i did go flat broke once three years ago, and i have been homeless twice already at 26, and started my first business off of a very small amount of $

if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.

The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do. meanwhile, you'll do no more impact in your life than dedicate your time to being mediocre at video games and being a cheat debater on forums over a topic that you're slightly more educated than the average person on. i think this forums halts your maturity too, you haven't grown up one bit. aside from the tk trolling stuff i stay pretty calm, mature and respectful on here nowadays, including the whole time i talk to you, meanwhile you're going around saying "lol you're such a faggot" and calling people names and treating people like evil~ryi like shit and it seems like to you it's a school yard fight in grade school...i can't even begin to wrap my head around how much of a punk kid you are.

call me a rager or something, but i really had a good time writing this out and i hope the mild truths in it about you bother you a bit even though you'll never show it because these forums are like your stomping grounds...lol

A 36 hour meltdown, impressive.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 26, 2015, 12:39:36 AM
Post the $$$.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 26, 2015, 01:46:10 AM

Post the $$$.

Montel Williams is still sending it to him...



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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 26, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 26, 2015, 09:37:46 AM
Working residential construction in Missouri I have the fortune (or misfortune) of getting a lot of days off due to piss poor weather in the winter. If the temperature gets below 15F i'm probably sitting at home. Last winter I had 2 solid weeks in a row off, and then a few other days here and there. When I would stay at home i'd log on and play war2 instead.... Guess who else was on war2 every single day I had to sit home? Swift. He was there all day every day (typically smurfing) as if he had nothing better to do. Right then and there I knew he didn't have a job.. I knew all the b.s. he was feeding other people was nothing more than lies he made up to impress other people on war2.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 26, 2015, 09:40:28 AM
it's been 2 days and he still cant manage to get his hands on $2700 lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 26, 2015, 02:32:08 PM
tk, we went over this. i was on every day after 5-6 pm pst, yes. and it lasted for like 2 months straight... now you're actng like i was on all day period and thats cute- so far from the truth.

also, once you pick a much higher number than $2,700 we'll do it. allow me to fuck with you
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 26, 2015, 02:33:11 PM
Post the $$$.

how much? pick a higher amount
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 26, 2015, 03:58:25 PM

Post the $$$.

how much? pick a higher amount

Don't think the lending tree will give you anymore


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 26, 2015, 05:36:13 PM
tk, we went over this. i was on every day after 5-6 pm pst, yes. and it lasted for like 2 months straight... now you're actng like i was on all day period and thats cute- so far from the truth.

rofl
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 26, 2015, 11:32:41 PM
no. you were on all day period. from the time i woke up 7-8AM central

if i had a day off of work due to weather or whatever, i pretty much knew if i logged on you would be online (typically under a smurf account) having random conversations with different people.

like you had absolutely nothing better to do.. just hanging out chatting with people on the server, watching some games, and occasionally playing for months on end. i only noticed it for months on end because weather only affects my work 3-4 months out of the year. if weather effected me year around im sure i would have noticed the same thing all year round.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 27, 2015, 01:58:37 AM
i was at least having fun with your ridiculous claim, i wasn't even on 5-11 everyday.

anyway, here's the facts: i had a couple month period where i was on a good decent amount of nights after i got off work. you change it to ALL day, EVERY day like I have no job OR social life. funny stuff, of course i'ma troll along

anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 27, 2015, 02:00:16 AM
also, if tk wants to continue to dodge, either blid or evil~ry can put an amount out instead
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 27, 2015, 07:45:20 AM
i was at least having fun with your ridiculous claim, i wasn't even on 5-11 everyday.

anyway, here's the facts: i had a couple month period where i was on a good decent amount of nights after i got off work. you change it to ALL day, EVERY day like I have no job OR social life. funny stuff, of course i'ma troll along

Ah, thanks for taking the time to clear up those facts Swift. Good thing you did so or you would look like an insecure idiot.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 27, 2015, 07:46:02 AM
anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc

"I think its wrong that rich people are allowed to be as rich as they are" *uses poor as an insult*
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 27, 2015, 09:16:06 AM
swift... i already said you can post 10 or 20k

i dont know why you're still talking. i think you made it pretty clear you don't even have 2K. you said you could or would do something and then didnt do it.

you're not a wealthy real estate mogul. there's nothing wrong with that. nobody here cares. you don't need to lie and insult everyone's intelligence just to make friends or impress people online.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 27, 2015, 10:14:57 AM
you don't need to lie and insult everyone's intelligence just to make friends or impress people online.

when you're as stupid, pathetic and loathsome as swift you probably do actually
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 27, 2015, 01:10:35 PM

swift... i already said you can post 10 or 20k

i dont know why you're still talking. i think you made it pretty clear you don't even have 2K. you said you could or would do something and then didnt do it.

you're not a wealthy real estate mogul. there's nothing wrong with that. nobody here cares. you don't need to lie and insult everyone's intelligence just to make friends or impress people online.

Well, yeah I just need to know which... 10? or 20?

And if you respond today, I'm going to need a 24 hour timeline cuz the banks be closed.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 27, 2015, 02:13:37 PM
And if you respond today, I'm going to need a 24 hour timeline cuz the banks be closed.

Dropping little insider nuggets of info about the banking system like this really shows off Swift's status.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 27, 2015, 02:17:44 PM
anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc

"I think its wrong that rich people are allowed to be as rich as they are" *uses poor as an insult*

You still don't get it. I don't think you really understand what the corporate ladder is about. It's about conflict management. Now you know. Now. You. Know.

You get paid more the higher up the ladder you go, but they're hiring you and promoting you for your ability to manage conflict in things like.... stress, responsibility, low IQ individuals (middle/poor class people), large projects, etc. Now you see what I am doing. I'm practicing my ability to manage conflict with low income individuals like yourself, like CEO's do with their employees.  and don't use your puppet master analogy here.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 27, 2015, 05:24:46 PM
rising the corporate ladder is all about cronyism and nepotism - also did you just insinuate a correlation between wages a person makes and IQ level? also it appears you don't believe you're a part of the middle class?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 27, 2015, 07:54:03 PM
your starting statement is obviously a narrow minded black and white view, and is absent from reality. to answer your first question, yes. as for the second, i guess which one I would fall into according to you would depend on what arbitrary classes you adhere to. care to share?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 27, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
You still don't get it. I don't think you really understand what the corporate ladder is about. It's about conflict management. Now you know. Now. You. Know.

You get paid more the higher up the ladder you go, but they're hiring you and promoting you for your ability to manage conflict in things like.... stress, responsibility, low IQ individuals (middle/poor class people), large projects, etc. Now you see what I am doing. I'm practicing my ability to manage conflict with low income individuals like yourself, like CEO's do with their employees.  and don't use your puppet master analogy here.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 27, 2015, 09:25:15 PM
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 12:19:04 PM
blid/evil~ryu can take tk[as]'s place since he dodged.

one of you give me an amount?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 12:23:04 PM
blid/evil~ryu can take tk[as]'s place since he dodged.

Lmao.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 28, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
your starting statement is obviously a narrow minded black and white view, and is absent from reality.

no it's the presence of reality. the reality of capitalism and the classist ideals it fuels.
to answer your first question, yes.

that's it? absurd claims which is clearly nonsense backed up by "yes".

as for the second, i guess which one I would fall into according to you would depend on what arbitrary classes you adhere to. care to share?
you just said low class and middle class people have low iqs, so i'm assuming you think you're part of a higher class? lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 28, 2015, 12:40:50 PM
Post money in this thread!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Post money in this thread!

step up and put out a real challenge! how much?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
Five day meltdown followed by five days of attempting to roll with the punches to salvage things, which in and of itself is part of the meltdown. All in all, quite a nice meltdown, and its still going strong!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 12:53:49 PM
I think its safe to say swift doesn't have much money guys. He's dodging harder than GreenPlastic after GP got #1 on ladder
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 12:55:35 PM
I think blid or evil~ryu will come through and actually give me a specific amount to pull out of the bank.

more importantly though, joe got #1 in ladder finally? holy shit
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 12:56:57 PM
Damn, can someone PLEASE just step up and tell Swift how much to money to show off so he can quit owning the entire message board so hard? Ownage like this hasn't been seen here since the days of BiZaTcH's rampage.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 01:02:15 PM
I gave you like 4 specific amounts ranging from 2500 - 20,000 ... this whole idea was yours and now you're making BS excuses Lol. Its ok. I proved my point. You're a compulsive liar who fabricates shit to gain respect from people online. That's all I really wanted to show people.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 01:03:39 PM
Damn, can someone PLEASE just step up and tell Swift how much to money to show off so he can quit owning the entire message board so hard? Ownage like this hasn't been seen here since the days of BiZaTcH's rampage.

For the first time ever, you and I are in total agreement. He wouldn’t just stop.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 01:06:21 PM
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 01:06:24 PM
I gave you like 4 specific amounts ranging from 2500 - 20,000 ... this whole idea was yours and now you're making BS excuses Lol. Its ok. I proved my point. You're a compulsive liar who fabricates shit to gain respect from people online. That's all I really wanted to show people.


I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do. For instance tomorrow morning I'll get up nice and early, take a walk down over to the bank and... walk in and see and, uh..

listen mother fucker, give me a specific amount, one number or fuck off dodger
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 01:11:12 PM
20,000

There. A specific amount.

I will be back for the lol's tomorrow when you don't post it.. and probably come up with some b******* reasons as to why not
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 01:12:23 PM
20,000

There. A specific amount.

I will be back for the lol's tomorrow when you don't post it.. and probably come up with some b******* reasons as to why not

there you go, tk. see that's all you had to do
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
Can't believe I'm still wasting time here. U said like 3 days ago you would do it and here you are still trying to weasel your way out of it. The amount isn't even important.. if you make as much as you act like you do all you had to do to shut everyone up was run to the bank, pull out a few stacks and take a picture and post it and we would all see it and think "OK. He has a lot of money. He was telling the truth. Tk was wrong'

But that didn't happen and its not ever going to because you're unemployed and don't have much $... and thats a lot less shameful than pretending you do IMO
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 01:22:29 PM
prepare to eat your words
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 01:44:19 PM
Everyone watch Oregon local news.. there's probably going to be a string of robberies in the next 24hours
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 28, 2015, 01:48:30 PM
Everyone watch Oregon local news.. there's probably going to be a string of robberies in the next 24hours

He lives in Oregon?

I used to work in Portland


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 28, 2015, 02:18:27 PM
Post the fucking money!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 28, 2015, 02:29:51 PM

Post the fucking money!

All invested in Broadway , I'll see what I can post when I pass "GO".


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 02:48:58 PM
will you stop picking on me and be my friend if i admit you are right tk?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 03:17:25 PM
will you stop picking on me and be my friend if i admit you are right tk?

Pulling this shit "sarcastically" to try to roll with the punches and/or pull a puppetmaster routine is at least as pathetic and embarrassing as posting it sincerely.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 03:56:37 PM
TK - here's your $20k. I also took the liberty of matching all the other amounts listed throughout the thread, including your $2,700, $2,500 and blid's $3,000. At what point you said do $10,000 or $20,000 so I also added those amounts in. I even did a solid and covered jon for his $50.

Note: If downloading the video, please watch in quicktime so there is audio. If not, then go ahead and watch this youtube video:
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2TTwV_ItIc#)

You're turn next TK, double it.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 04:07:34 PM
dont want to watch the video? For quick reference:

The stack of 100's on the far left and the three stacks of 50's next to it are your "10 or 20k" the next three small piles are 2,500, 2,700, 3,000, and the spread of 100's is your specific 20k you asked for, also on the far left there is jon's 50 bucks.

anyway, back to a whole day of war2~
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 04:10:08 PM
No one cares you fucking retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 28, 2015, 04:10:48 PM
Finally, the moment I was waiting for.  I will now break into swiftone's house and steal the money.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 04:18:04 PM
Swift started this thread saying he agreed capitalists enjoy unjust social privilege and the degree to which society enriches them is wrong, accused people who said he didn't believe this line of being liars, and ended it by saying everything he's earned in life is because of how great he is and posting money to impress strangers on the internet.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 04:20:06 PM
You've got about a 7 minute window before I am back to the bank blid, doors unlocked.

Here TK -

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 04:27:47 PM

Swift started this thread saying he agreed capitalists enjoy unjust social privilege and the degree to which society enriches them is wrong, accused people who said he didn't believe this line of being liars, and ended it by saying everything he's earned in life is because of how great he is and posting money to impress strangers on the internet.

good.... good.... let the obliviousness flow through you. i'm just here to get a rise, meanwhile you read my posts and take random movie quotes that i pull off from the internet as my actual opinions. just go out and say it, i'm everything you hate and if/when your revolution for a socialist utopia takes place you hope I get shot in the head for all my wrongdoings like all those other capitalist scum. hell, you'll probably take the liberty of tracking me down yourself to shoot me in the back of the head once there is enough social unrest and/or laws permitting such. only then will you be powerful enough to... ok fuck it i'll stop, have a nice day.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 28, 2015, 04:32:18 PM
We need more people posting money in this thread.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 28, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
swift has a typical case of overprivledged white bitch syndrome.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 28, 2015, 04:35:10 PM
You've got about a 7 minute window before I am back to the bank blid, doors unlocked.
I have your mom's address, is that the right one?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tupac on September 28, 2015, 04:43:53 PM
Send me some cash holy shit. I'm about that life!!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 04:44:35 PM

Swift started this thread saying he agreed capitalists enjoy unjust social privilege and the degree to which society enriches them is wrong, accused people who said he didn't believe this line of being liars, and ended it by saying everything he's earned in life is because of how great he is and posting money to impress strangers on the internet.

good.... good.... let the obliviousness flow through you. i'm just here to get a rise, meanwhile you read my posts and take random movie quotes that i pull off from the internet as my actual opinions. just go out and say it, i'm everything you hate and if/when your revolution for a socialist utopia takes place you hope I get shot in the head for all my wrongdoings like all those other capitalist scum. hell, you'll probably take the liberty of tracking me down yourself to shoot me in the back of the head once there is enough social unrest and/or laws permitting such. only then will you be powerful enough to... ok fuck it i'll stop, have a nice day.

Lmfao and you call me oblivious.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 04:46:23 PM
Bahahaha...you thought I was making a fool out of myself by melting down in this thread for several days straight and then pulling a bunch of money out of the bank to spread on my computer desk to show to internet people. Little did you know that getting everyone who read my posts over the past several days to call me a retard was all part of the plan! The ironing is delicious.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 28, 2015, 04:51:44 PM
he literally just emptied his bank account and entire savings just so he can show it to a dumb redneck who thought $2700 was something significant enough to post about, now swift has to go back to the bank to deposit it back. what the fuck is this!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
how many times do i have to say 2700 isnt shit... but if he was able to post at least a couple grand, i would at the very least believe he wasn't some kid living off of his parent's allowance.


i will admit i was wrong. you seem to have plenty of money.

still a retard though.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 28, 2015, 05:06:04 PM
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/man-charged-in-fatal-crash-part-of-influential-toronto-area-family-1.2584890 (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/man-charged-in-fatal-crash-part-of-influential-toronto-area-family-1.2584890)

rich kid drinks and drives, kills a bunch of people. would be life in prison under normal circumstances, hmm should be interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 05:50:41 PM
he literally just emptied his bank account and entire savings just so he can show it to a dumb redneck who thought $2700 was something significant enough to post about, now swift has to go back to the bank to deposit it back. what the fuck is this!

Yes, I coincidentally only have $58,250 dollars, the exact amount of all individual amounts asked to be posted. You got me. Anyway, you can have your thread back now.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 06:03:44 PM
Yes, I coincidentally only have $58,250 dollars, the exact amount of all individual amounts asked to be posted. You got me. Anyway, you can have your thread back now.

Holy shit!!!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 06:04:45 PM
The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 08:50:33 PM
good news everyone.. i'm power washing a house and a deck this friday for $175 so i'll be able to post like 2,900 next time.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 08:58:46 PM

i will admit i was wrong. you seem to have plenty of money.

still a retard though.


do you want to keep doubling the amount until one of us can no longer? we'll say my last one was just an even 50k to keep the numbers simple, so you're up next and that puts you at 100k now.

once you completely concede we'll then move on to cars, number of fb friends, hs & college gpa's, gfs/wives looks, etc? We'll go through the whole spectrum of meaningless, shallow worldly measurements and ignore anything that isn't absent of meaningful things like one's character, striving for a life of altruism etc and i'll drink myself into a deeper depression afterwards.  for the gf/wife contest we'll keep the audience entertained by posting nudes without their permission?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
im married and ive already posted her tits if you missed it im sure space saved them along with my cock

idgaf how much money you have honestly. i just find it hard to believe (still) that someone who spends countless hours having extremely unproductive meaningless conversations on a dead 20 year old gaming server is a wealthy real-estate mogul. if i had 50K cash guess where i'd be? not server.war2.ru

 if i were single i'd still crush more dime ass pussy than you. bitches love me and my lack of wealth

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 09:44:57 PM
here's a little insight tk -

1. money doesn't make someone a baller no matter how much you think it does

2. just because someone has money doesn't mean they go around traveling the world, driving nice cars, fucking everyone and doing every which drug or buying 10 houses and living some fantasy life. nevertheless, you think i'm on war2 way more than i am. i haven't been on the game in months, and i never played mid day like u said, not in a long time have i done that with any regularity. also, aside from that day with gn like 3-4 days ago i am pretty much absent from the forums for the most part, with a few posts here and there.

3. as for getting more pussy than a rich guy, you have no idea. i'll let you on a little secret that you  aren't aware of, guys with money can go to bars and women just flock to them, it's like they smell it. here's one reason, besides the fact that you don't got much money, that you aren't aware of this. You know that girls will downplay the truth when asked by fat/ugly guys if looks matter, "oh looks matter a little but personality is most important" but you, as a moderate to good looking guy know that that same girl will ditch that fat ugly fuck in a half second at the club as soon as a good looking guy bats an eye at her. It's the same with $, women say it's not as important as things like looks/personality. But when people with normal $/careers aren't around, they'll fully admit that guys with $, good careers etc turn them on and that they are attracted to money, and they are turned on and consider such guys alpha, etc. some of even are bad enough to admit they only like u for your money etc. it's not like a small percentage of women who are like this either, it's the majority. it wouldn't even be fair, i'd need to go bankrupt first before we compete on that one
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 28, 2015, 09:48:12 PM

Finally, the moment I was waiting for.  I will now break into swiftone's house and steal the money.

Would you represent yourself in court?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 09:49:05 PM
u dont know what bitches flocking to you means .. they might want your money, but they want my dick inside of them no strings attached
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 10:04:58 PM
u dont know what bitches flocking to you means .. they might want your money, but they want my dick inside of them no strings attached

tk, just like you believed i lived with my mom and i was broke, so you would have yourself believe that i cannot get women easily. these are all just notions that have no merit, but they are shared by many here. you haven't the slightest clue who i am or what i do, and honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.

As soon as it gets out in the slightest of hints, they flock to you in clubs and ride you all night trying to follow you home, or girls find out from other friends somehow and add you on facebook etc. it's the easiest shit in the world. what i would want from the woman is some meaningless pleasure, and what they want from me is some meaningless object to obtain pleasure withl. it's an empty abyss. i was being sarcastic when i said lets continue some empty contest, i just wanted to fuck with u a bit since u were so confident i live with my mom, but i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething

you can't understand it, because you haven't been there. maybe you'd do well for yourself with finances and make your life 10x better or some shit, but it would never work that way for me, and thats why you don't see me attempting to live to my means. i did it for a VERY short awhile, the women, concerts, cruises, fake friends, real friends, nice food etc, and it's a bunch of shit and i would rather be dead than live out a life full of those empty pleasures instead of one in search of that ever elusive deeper meaning. i've also aimed to try the good person attempt, working alongside non-profits, start ups, donating until it hurts, shoveling the snow at my church, the dog shelters and to my surprise none of that shit fills the void, though i'll stay the course on that one.  like i am not saying that i am happier than you yourself or anything either, the whole post was more just for shock value.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 10:10:00 PM
i wonder if anyone else connects with this song like i do. this song is spot on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD0mxoWb2Us (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD0mxoWb2Us)

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 28, 2015, 10:15:55 PM
good news everyone.. i'm power washing a house and a deck this friday for $175 so i'll be able to post like 2,900 next time.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKySc85zpyE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKySc85zpyE)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 28, 2015, 10:36:39 PM

good news everyone.. i'm power washing a house and a deck this friday for $175 so i'll be able to post like 2,900 next time.



[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKySc85zpyE[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKySc85zpyE[/url])



Very informative....


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 10:38:23 PM
oh my god shut the fuck up lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 28, 2015, 10:39:32 PM
here's a little insight tk -

1. money doesn't make someone a baller no matter how much you think it does

2. just because someone has money doesn't mean they go around traveling the world, driving nice cars, fucking everyone and doing every which drug or buying 10 houses and living some fantasy life. nevertheless, you think i'm on war2 way more than i am. i haven't been on the game in months, and i never played mid day like u said, not in a long time have i done that with any regularity. also, aside from that day with gn like 3-4 days ago i am pretty much absent from the forums for the most part, with a few posts here and there.

3. as for getting more pussy than a rich guy, you have no idea. i'll let you on a little secret that you  aren't aware of, guys with money can go to bars and women just flock to them, it's like they smell it. here's one reason, besides the fact that you don't got much money, that you aren't aware of this. You know that girls will downplay the truth when asked by fat/ugly guys if looks matter, "oh looks matter a little but personality is most important" but you, as a moderate to good looking guy know that that same girl will ditch that fat ugly fuck in a half second at the club as soon as a good looking guy bats an eye at her. It's the same with $, women say it's not as important as things like looks/personality. But when people with normal $/careers aren't around, they'll fully admit that guys with $, good careers etc turn them on and that they are attracted to money, and they are turned on and consider such guys alpha, etc. some of even are bad enough to admit they only like u for your money etc. it's not like a small percentage of women who are like this either, it's the majority. it wouldn't even be fair, i'd need to go bankrupt first before we compete on that one

You are mentally disturbed and should seek professional help.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 28, 2015, 10:48:55 PM
type of women "flocking" to swift

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODXNPzQ2ZM&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPODXNPzQ2ZM&has_verified=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODXNPzQ2ZM&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPODXNPzQ2ZM&has_verified=1)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 11:12:42 PM
here's a little insight tk -

1. money doesn't make someone a baller no matter how much you think it does

2. just because someone has money doesn't mean they go around traveling the world, driving nice cars, fucking everyone and doing every which drug or buying 10 houses and living some fantasy life. nevertheless, you think i'm on war2 way more than i am. i haven't been on the game in months, and i never played mid day like u said, not in a long time have i done that with any regularity. also, aside from that day with gn like 3-4 days ago i am pretty much absent from the forums for the most part, with a few posts here and there.

3. as for getting more pussy than a rich guy, you have no idea. i'll let you on a little secret that you  aren't aware of, guys with money can go to bars and women just flock to them, it's like they smell it. here's one reason, besides the fact that you don't got much money, that you aren't aware of this. You know that girls will downplay the truth when asked by fat/ugly guys if looks matter, "oh looks matter a little but personality is most important" but you, as a moderate to good looking guy know that that same girl will ditch that fat ugly fuck in a half second at the club as soon as a good looking guy bats an eye at her. It's the same with $, women say it's not as important as things like looks/personality. But when people with normal $/careers aren't around, they'll fully admit that guys with $, good careers etc turn them on and that they are attracted to money, and they are turned on and consider such guys alpha, etc. some of even are bad enough to admit they only like u for your money etc. it's not like a small percentage of women who are like this either, it's the majority. it wouldn't even be fair, i'd need to go bankrupt first before we compete on that one

You are mentally disturbed and should seek professional help.

What have we been doing this whole time then? Are you telling me that you can't help me and that you're going to need to refer me to another doctor?
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 28, 2015, 11:18:33 PM
here's a little insight tk -

1. money doesn't make someone a baller no matter how much you think it does

2. just because someone has money doesn't mean they go around traveling the world, driving nice cars, fucking everyone and doing every which drug or buying 10 houses and living some fantasy life. nevertheless, you think i'm on war2 way more than i am. i haven't been on the game in months, and i never played mid day like u said, not in a long time have i done that with any regularity. also, aside from that day with gn like 3-4 days ago i am pretty much absent from the forums for the most part, with a few posts here and there.

3. as for getting more pussy than a rich guy, you have no idea. i'll let you on a little secret that you  aren't aware of, guys with money can go to bars and women just flock to them, it's like they smell it. here's one reason, besides the fact that you don't got much money, that you aren't aware of this. You know that girls will downplay the truth when asked by fat/ugly guys if looks matter, "oh looks matter a little but personality is most important" but you, as a moderate to good looking guy know that that same girl will ditch that fat ugly fuck in a half second at the club as soon as a good looking guy bats an eye at her. It's the same with $, women say it's not as important as things like looks/personality. But when people with normal $/careers aren't around, they'll fully admit that guys with $, good careers etc turn them on and that they are attracted to money, and they are turned on and consider such guys alpha, etc. some of even are bad enough to admit they only like u for your money etc. it's not like a small percentage of women who are like this either, it's the majority. it wouldn't even be fair, i'd need to go bankrupt first before we compete on that one

You are mentally disturbed and should seek professional help.

What have we been doing this whole time then? Are you telling me that you can't help me and that you're going to need to refer me to another doctor?

Lol, the pink freak telling others to seek professional help


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 28, 2015, 11:29:29 PM
if i were single i'd still crush more dime ass pussy than you. bitches love me and my lack of wealth


well neither of us are single so i guess we can compete on this one as well.

it's comedy that you pick the next category to be women when we all know you date a stripper, and an ugly one at that... and then you want us to believe that you can pick up good looking women

or maybe this is just a ploy for you to get a pic of my gf, if so it worked;

(http://s13.postimg.org/60e0lrnyb/IMG_6616.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/60e0lrnyb/)

you posted a nude body shot of your girl, and of course mine isn't a slut like yours so i won't do that but i'll get as close as i can to matching it. asked her if i could post this pic on a small community gamer forum. shes a solid 8 1/2
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 28, 2015, 11:38:57 PM
She take that with a potato?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on September 29, 2015, 12:17:41 AM
l8r :o
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: tk[as] on September 29, 2015, 07:01:19 AM
theres no pics of girls u could post that would impress me is my point

ive been with em all... all different races, personalities, shapes and sizes... and all while i was making less than 40k a year.

been with enough to know all of their p****** feel pretty much the same and they all have a crazy side to them.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 29, 2015, 07:40:11 AM
Lol @ both of you losers.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 29, 2015, 07:43:19 AM
if i were single i'd still crush more dime ass pussy than you. bitches love me and my lack of wealth


well neither of us are single so i guess we can compete on this one as well.

it's comedy that you pick the next category to be women when we all know you date a stripper, and an ugly one at that... and then you want us to believe that you can pick up good looking women

or maybe this is just a ploy for you to get a pic of my gf, if so it worked;

([url]http://s13.postimg.org/60e0lrnyb/IMG_6616.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.org/image/60e0lrnyb/[/url])

you posted a nude body shot of your girl, and of course mine isn't a slut like yours so i won't do that but i'll get as close as i can to matching it. asked her if i could post this pic on a small community gamer forum. shes a solid 8 1/2



Sorry about your girlfriend's low self esteem, I hope someday she gets the help she needs and doesn't feel the need to be with someone who wants to use her as a status symbol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 29, 2015, 09:03:29 AM
i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething

honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.

I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the  bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react

i don't make great efforts to get anyone to know anything about me. i'm just saying if it'll make you shut up (and feel dumb), and give me a pseudo win over you, then i am willing to prove otherwise but you'd need to let me know what amount would truly make you feel like you're an idiot and not smart and like you're 0-1. everyone has $2700, that wont do it

now you proceed to make excuses as to why others are successful and not you, to make yourself feel better and you use me as an example. my parents don't help me at all, and my privilege although hugely prevalent to worldy standards, being that I am a white male american, i still have no more opportunity or privilege than others in that same catagory, such as you. i am not exceptionally smart, i didn't get a free ride through college, i didn't meet the right people who helped me to become successful, but i did go flat broke once three years ago, and i have been homeless twice already at 26, and started my first business off of a very small amount of $

if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.

The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do.

anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc

You still don't get it. I don't think you really understand what the corporate ladder is about. It's about conflict management. Now you know. Now. You. Know.

You get paid more the higher up the ladder you go, but they're hiring you and promoting you for your ability to manage conflict in things like.... stress, responsibility, low IQ individuals (middle/poor class people), large projects, etc. Now you see what I am doing. I'm practicing my ability to manage conflict with low income individuals like yourself, like CEO's do with their employees.  and don't use your puppet master analogy here.

you posted a nude body shot of your girl, and of course mine isn't a slut like yours so i won't do that but i'll get as close as i can to matching it. asked her if i could post this pic on a small community gamer forum. shes a solid 8 1/2

i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething

honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 29, 2015, 10:20:11 AM
capitalism and its sick ideals are definitely to blame for this behaviour.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 29, 2015, 10:49:17 AM

capitalism and its sick ideals are definitely to blame for this behaviour.

Erm...no.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 29, 2015, 10:52:57 AM
I would say his mental illness is also to blame but mental illness is caused by capitalism, as well.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 29, 2015, 11:49:46 AM
right. commodity fetishism of women was created under capitalism.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 29, 2015, 01:39:15 PM
Well, the currently existing form of it, yeah. It's telling how Swift naturally progressed from bragging about how much money he has to bragging about the fact that he has a GF and she meets or exceeds the beauty standards established by capitalist patriarchy.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 29, 2015, 03:52:55 PM

right. commodity fetishism of women was created under capitalism.




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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 29, 2015, 04:27:33 PM
Well, the currently existing form of it, yeah. It's telling how Swift naturally progressed from bragging about how much money he has to bragging about the fact that he has a GF and she meets or exceeds the beauty standards established by capitalist patriarchy.

swift basically started off in this thread defending landlords and CEOs.. although he acknowledged CEOs bloated wages probably aren't deserving, but he thinks they work way harder (ignoring the objective facts that show they don't) so who cares right? .. and he basically got dumber as the thread progressed, saying the wage you earn is correlated to your intelligence, that all of the poor and middle classes have low IQ (what the fuck), that things like altruism are "meaningless" (where the fuck is that thread about swift talking about helping a homeless person) , then he posts a photo of cash that any non-student up not up their ass in debt could accumulate quite easily (swift probably didn't go to school), and a random girl that he may or may not have relations with.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 29, 2015, 04:29:51 PM
Yeah it's funny because he thinks the fact that he just says "I think capitalism is kinda bad, actually" and "finding self worth in this stuff is meaningless and below me" completely outweighs the fact that his actions in this thread say the exact opposite. In fact me pointing this out to him was pretty much the end of him trying to "debate" me and then he just started flying off the handle and calling me a liar and saying how dare you judge me by by my actions or my arguments by their content instead of my empty platitudes backed up by nothing.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 29, 2015, 04:40:25 PM
he has npd

http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1374.msg22255.html#msg22255 (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1374.msg22255.html#msg22255)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 29, 2015, 04:42:42 PM
he has npd

[url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1374.msg22255.html#msg22255[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1374.msg22255.html#msg22255[/url])


http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1374.msg22379.html#msg22379 (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1374.msg22379.html#msg22379)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 29, 2015, 04:43:20 PM
Also I think everyone knew that already.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 29, 2015, 06:47:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/G4JlElA.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 30, 2015, 01:00:14 PM
Ford F-150 plant could go on strike Sunday - CNN
https://apple.news/AW3mIXaZgSmy5vaUrSRrsPA


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 30, 2015, 01:04:16 PM
Ford F-150 plant could go on strike Sunday - CNN
https://apple.news/AW3mIXaZgSmy5vaUrSRrsPA


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 30, 2015, 02:11:48 PM
http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21660952-capitalism-not-perfect-buts-it-better-other-systems-whats-alternative (http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21660952-capitalism-not-perfect-buts-it-better-other-systems-whats-alternative)

some shitty article doing a piss poor job at defending capitalism.

immediately starts off with a blatant bullshit statement

Quote
CAPITALISM lacks defenders these days
- yea not enough reactionary shitheads today spewing irrational and inexplicable love for capitalism.

goes into claims about how the "pursuit of profit" has been "unloved" through history and about "anti-business" sentiment, like a ridiculous manchild bitch not living in the real world.  he over blows criticism to fake a legit argument. he talks about the pope being anti-capitalist as if the Vatican doesn't invest and isn't worth tens of billions of dollars.
any fuckwit knows our society is a bunch of celebrity-worshiping materialist bots that glorify money to extreme immoral proportions, so this manchild bitch can shut the fuck up about how no one defends capitalism, there's too much defense for capitalism and none of it valid.

Quote
The revival of anti-capitalist rhetoric owes much to the financial crisis of 2008 and its aftermath. The crisis was merely the latest example of the inherent stability of capitalism


 :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 30, 2015, 02:15:14 PM
All the "capitalism is a broken system that serves no one but the world's wealthy slave masters but There Is No Alternative" articles in mainstream press in the past few years are funny.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 30, 2015, 03:28:11 PM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 30, 2015, 06:24:55 PM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on September 30, 2015, 06:59:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/X5EZYuM.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on September 30, 2015, 07:18:28 PM

([url]http://i.imgur.com/X5EZYuM.png[/url])


Hmm....


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 01, 2015, 10:15:59 AM
POOR children in London have outperformed their wealthier peers across the country, with the number of GCSE passes more than doubling in a decade, reports Joana Ramiro.
http://morningstaronline.co.uk/a-de06-Posh-kids-outclassed-by-London-poors-results (http://morningstaronline.co.uk/a-de06-Posh-kids-outclassed-by-London-poors-results)

lol we got stupid people getting into prominent positions in society because they were born in wealth, while smarter people fall by the wayside because they didn't have the financial advantages. nothing new here but interesting to see it confirmed in studies.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 01, 2015, 10:20:32 AM
"stupid people" "smart people"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 01, 2015, 10:37:44 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71jQB5QE%2B6L._SL1001_.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 01, 2015, 10:42:59 AM

([url]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71jQB5QE%2B6L._SL1001_.jpg[/url])





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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 01:49:02 PM
I would say his mental illness is also to blame but mental illness is caused by capitalism, as well.

That's right GN, I'm a victim.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 02, 2015, 01:49:39 PM
I would say his mental illness is also to blame but mental illness is caused by capitalism, as well.

That's right GN, I'm a victim.

You're a retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 01:51:51 PM
Symptoms discovered thus far include excess wealth/massive residual income and dating women that look like super models. Please help me GN, how do I change?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 02, 2015, 02:13:58 PM
Symptoms discovered thus far include excess wealth/massive residual income and dating women that look like super models.

You forgot a crippling lack of self esteem that requires you to post about these things in great detail on an internet forum to strangers.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 02, 2015, 02:27:58 PM

Symptoms discovered thus far include excess wealth/massive residual income and dating women that look like super models.

You forgot a crippling lack of self esteem that requires you to post about these things in great detail on an internet forum to strangers.

Ha pinky talkin about self esteem


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
Staying on topic of sharing with strangers, I donated to a couple of schools in Eugene this year. I suppose you'll blame my self esteem for helping strangers too. Maybe you'll even blame my incredibly gracious donations for the recent shooting.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 02, 2015, 02:44:21 PM

Staying on topic of sharing with strangers, I donated to a couple of schools in Eugene this year. I suppose you'll blame my self esteem for helping strangers too. Maybe you'll even blame my incredibly gracious donations for the recent shooting.

Eugene is what 3 hours away from Portland?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 02, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
Staying on topic of sharing with strangers, I donated to a couple of schools in Eugene this year. I suppose you'll blame my self esteem for helping strangers too. Maybe you'll even blame my incredibly gracious donations for the recent shooting.

Shut up fag.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 02:49:27 PM
About 2 hours south
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 02, 2015, 02:52:25 PM
About 2 hours south

Ya I was never able to make down that far when I lived in Portland. I did go to  Cannon beach tho...definitely miss all the mountains and fresh air


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 02:59:08 PM
Shut up fag.

I can't figure out why you hate me when I do more things to be a great person than you do.  How can you even look down on me when I donate more and say good things to people I don't even like?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 03:01:59 PM
Fresh air hot women and good food .
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 02, 2015, 03:07:29 PM
Shut up fag.

I can't figure out why you hate me when I do more things to be a great person than you do.  How can you even look down on me when I donate more and say good things to people I don't even like?


Because you are an obnoxious retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 02, 2015, 03:11:22 PM
I also don't think you do good things, and that you are a liar. You will probably try to convince me otherwise, because you are very insecure.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 03:13:38 PM
So your saying that you'll debate anything except how you try and step on people. Basically you'd be a douche regardless of capitalism.  My self esteem hinges on your reply! Or maybe yours is tied into mine now.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 02, 2015, 03:14:08 PM
So your saying that you'll debate anything except how you try and step on people. Basically you'd be a douche regardless of capitalism.  My self esteem hinges on your reply! Or maybe yours is tied into mine now.

Are you done melting down yet?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
Only you get caught lying in your own posts. I feel bad enough that I would mentor you in exchange for an apology
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 02, 2015, 03:20:02 PM
Only you get caught lying in your own posts. I feel bad enough that I would mentor you in exchange for an apology

Are you still melting down Swift? I don't think even BiZaTcH got owned so hard by me he was still melting down like ten days later.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 02, 2015, 03:23:56 PM
I respect your stubbornness with being wrong. You realize your wrong and still here you are. I can show you how to rise above poor people pettiness and then you can impact as many people as I do.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 02, 2015, 03:24:59 PM
Only you get caught lying in your own posts.

Maybe this will make you stop posting for awhile like it did earlier in the week:

i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething

honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.

I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the  bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react

i don't make great efforts to get anyone to know anything about me. i'm just saying if it'll make you shut up (and feel dumb), and give me a pseudo win over you, then i am willing to prove otherwise but you'd need to let me know what amount would truly make you feel like you're an idiot and not smart and like you're 0-1. everyone has $2700, that wont do it

now you proceed to make excuses as to why others are successful and not you, to make yourself feel better and you use me as an example. my parents don't help me at all, and my privilege although hugely prevalent to worldy standards, being that I am a white male american, i still have no more opportunity or privilege than others in that same catagory, such as you. i am not exceptionally smart, i didn't get a free ride through college, i didn't meet the right people who helped me to become successful, but i did go flat broke once three years ago, and i have been homeless twice already at 26, and started my first business off of a very small amount of $

if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.

The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do.

anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc

You still don't get it. I don't think you really understand what the corporate ladder is about. It's about conflict management. Now you know. Now. You. Know.

You get paid more the higher up the ladder you go, but they're hiring you and promoting you for your ability to manage conflict in things like.... stress, responsibility, low IQ individuals (middle/poor class people), large projects, etc. Now you see what I am doing. I'm practicing my ability to manage conflict with low income individuals like yourself, like CEO's do with their employees.  and don't use your puppet master analogy here.

you posted a nude body shot of your girl, and of course mine isn't a slut like yours so i won't do that but i'll get as close as i can to matching it. asked her if i could post this pic on a small community gamer forum. shes a solid 8 1/2

i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething

honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 02, 2015, 03:27:57 PM

Fresh air hot women and good food .

Micro breweries ftw


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: IBecomeShivaDestroyerOfGN on October 04, 2015, 02:21:03 AM
anyone else voting for a republican this time?

Obama pretty much destroyed my faith in democratic party. And Hillary needs to acknowledge that Obama is FUBAR before she swings me back to her side.

Stompin in my Trump Force Ones

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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 04, 2015, 04:15:12 AM
I am voting for Stephen Colbert


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: IBecomeShivaDestroyerOfGN on October 04, 2015, 04:26:30 AM
actually going to write in for Ghostnuke.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 05, 2015, 07:13:19 PM
Two Air France managers have had their shirts torn as they were forced to flee a meeting on job cuts by angry workers.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34445379 (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34445379)


video in link


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 05, 2015, 09:09:50 PM
Should have been their throats. Never leave a labor aristocrat to do a proletarian's job.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 05, 2015, 09:22:59 PM

Should have been their throats. Never leave a labor aristocrat to do a proletarian's job.

Pfft whatever.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 05, 2015, 09:43:35 PM

Should have been their throats. Never leave a labor aristocrat to do a proletarian's job.

Pfft whatever.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 06, 2015, 03:00:24 AM


Should have been their throats. Never leave a labor aristocrat to do a proletarian's job.


Pfft whatever.


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Got something to say bitch?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 06, 2015, 07:15:48 AM
That's what I thought.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 06, 2015, 11:02:30 AM
Doctors Without Borders says its Afghan hospital 'was deliberately bombed'
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 06, 2015, 11:19:44 AM
Doctors Without Borders says its Afghan hospital 'was deliberately bombed'

I blame capitalism....


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 06, 2015, 12:59:51 PM
capitalism is the root of all evil you retarded piece of shit  - i don't know why you're being sarcastic.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 06, 2015, 01:38:37 PM

capitalism is the root of all evil you retarded piece of shit  - i don't know why you're being sarcastic.


Lol just because you failed in the system doesn't make it "evil".


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 06, 2015, 01:40:42 PM
what, "failed in the system" ? what the shit are you on about ya daft cunt
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 06, 2015, 02:32:09 PM
Doctors Without Borders says its Afghan hospital 'was deliberately bombed'

Even the US aren't disputing this, they're probably going to try to blame it on bad intelligence (which still makes it a war crime) or try to say there actually were Taliban in the hospital.

Some sack of shit on NPR last night was like "It's startling to see MSF, an organization I used to have much respect for, jumping to wild conclusions without all the facts" rofl.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 06, 2015, 02:42:55 PM
this asshole is the executive director of human rights watch lmao

(http://i.imgur.com/jwq0KYG.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 06, 2015, 02:44:51 PM
(https://prod01-cdn05.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2015/10/cnn.png)


hmmm...very intredasting. perhaps the two are connected somehow???
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 06, 2015, 02:46:10 PM
The New York Times today – in a story ostensibly about the impact on area residents from the hospital’s destruction – printed paragraphs from anonymous officials justifying this strike: “there was heavy gunfire in the area around the hospital at the time of the airstrike, and that initial reports indicated that the Americans and Afghans on the ground near the hospital could not safely pull back without being dangerously exposed. American forces on the ground then called for air support, senior officials said.”

...

Just as this article was being published, NBC News published a report making clear that even the latest claims from the U.S. and Afghan governments are now falling apart. The Pentagon’s top four-star commander in Afghanistan, Army Gen. John Campbell, now claims that “local Afghans forces asked for air support and U.S. forces were not under direct fire just prior to the U.S. bombardment” of the hospital. As NBC notes, this directly contradicts prior claims: “The Pentagon had previously said U.S. troops were under direct fire.”
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 06, 2015, 02:48:48 PM
this asshole is the executive director of human rights watch lmao

([url]http://i.imgur.com/jwq0KYG.jpg[/url])


yea i remember all those stories about Assad the physician bombing his own hospitals all the time... the fuck is this tool piece of garbage talking about...
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on October 06, 2015, 03:02:51 PM
(https://prod01-cdn05.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2015/10/cnn.png)


hmmm...very intredasting. perhaps the two are connected somehow???
hahahahahah thats some badass phrasing
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 07, 2015, 08:55:05 PM
The billionaire CEO who says he'll leave the country if Trump is elected - CNN
https://apple.news/AI7bew7R5SPCy5dSLOe6hiw


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 08, 2015, 09:41:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7AL8_S5Rs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7AL8_S5Rs)

everyone already knows what a moron bill o tool is but this is a pretty extreme detachment from reality even for this clown.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 08, 2015, 05:10:59 PM
http://gawker.com/urban-outfitters-fall-strategy-asking-employees-to-wor-1735228986 (http://gawker.com/urban-outfitters-fall-strategy-asking-employees-to-wor-1735228986)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 09, 2015, 09:54:32 AM
lmao they're ending the syrian rebel training program
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 09, 2015, 10:31:42 AM
russia wins (again)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 10, 2015, 01:16:20 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/stephen-hawking-capitalism-robots_5616c20ce4b0dbb8000d9f15 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/stephen-hawking-capitalism-robots_5616c20ce4b0dbb8000d9f15)

Stephen Hawking Says We Should Really Be Scared Of Capitalism, Not Robots
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 11, 2015, 10:27:50 PM
Pharma CEO: "We're in Business of Shareholder Profit, Not Helping the Sick"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 13, 2015, 09:42:43 AM
Oregon sells $10.8 million worth of pot in the first 6 days - CNN
https://apple.news/A5KmnW2geRdaEFu3F8cXYUg


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 13, 2015, 01:25:31 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-bonnie-snyder/why-does-college-cost-too_b_7427396.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-bonnie-snyder/why-does-college-cost-too_b_7427396.html)

Why Does College Cost Too Much? Ask Karl Marx.




High tuition prices = Marxism. OH.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 13, 2015, 01:36:18 PM
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-bonnie-snyder/why-does-college-cost-too_b_7427396.html[/url] ([url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-bonnie-snyder/why-does-college-cost-too_b_7427396.html[/url])

Why Does College Cost Too Much? Ask Karl Marx.




High tuition prices = Marxism. OH.


Rofl. Cool that "left" and right tabloids in the US can agree 100% on some things.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 14, 2015, 10:12:25 AM
What in the World: A 6-hour workday - CNN
https://apple.news/AnL1__AuyRlmEFb1cpw6IAg


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 14, 2015, 10:16:37 AM
Even JPMorgan suffered during the market mayhem - CNN
https://apple.news/AKT9Nd-6tTROI8QNCChoVag


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 14, 2015, 10:19:11 AM
Bertrand Russell wrote about a 4 hour work day in the 30s...
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 15, 2015, 11:17:54 AM
China now has more billionaires than U.S. - CNN
https://apple.news/AxSEyOJm4Qu6arFlmITBqdg


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 15, 2015, 12:17:20 PM
Even JPMorgan suffered during the market mayhem - CNN
https://apple.news/AKT9Nd-6tTROI8QNCChoVag


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are u dumb? don't post capitalist-apologia here u cripple
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 15, 2015, 12:19:38 PM

Even JPMorgan suffered during the market mayhem - CNN
https://apple.news/AKT9Nd-6tTROI8QNCChoVag


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are u dumb? don't post capitalist-apologia here u cripple




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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 15, 2015, 12:23:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qJOD6aa.jpg)

check out the base of MLKP in Iraq - the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party involved in fighting ISIS and other terrorists (turkish government)

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 15, 2015, 01:50:16 PM
ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 15, 2015, 03:12:47 PM

ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka

You + Welfare + Retard =


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 15, 2015, 03:18:25 PM

ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka

You + Welfare + Retard =


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I am not retarded, and I'm not sure how receiving welfare benefits would make me so. Basically, your post makes no sense.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 15, 2015, 03:33:16 PM


ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka

You + Welfare + Retard =


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I am not retarded, and I'm not sure how receiving welfare benefits would make me so. Basically, your post makes no sense.

The equation isn't saying that welfare makes you retarded you moron. Being Yourself, a Piny Pony, PLUS being on welfare PLUS being mentally retarded ALL makes you (= ) a (swine).


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 15, 2015, 03:35:20 PM


ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka

You + Welfare + Retard =


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I am not retarded, and I'm not sure how receiving welfare benefits would make me so. Basically, your post makes no sense.

The equation isn't saying that welfare makes you retarded you moron. Being Yourself, a Piny Pony, PLUS being on welfare PLUS being mentally retarded ALL makes you (= ) a (swine).


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That makes a little more sense but is also retarded because the facts you state about me are untrue, and even if they were, it is not at all logical they would make me a pig.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 15, 2015, 03:36:04 PM
Hey Ryu, 9/11 and cops getting killed is funny, lol. You're mad now, haha.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 15, 2015, 03:41:20 PM



ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka

You + Welfare + Retard =


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I am not retarded, and I'm not sure how receiving welfare benefits would make me so. Basically, your post makes no sense.

The equation isn't saying that welfare makes you retarded you moron. Being Yourself, a Piny Pony, PLUS being on welfare PLUS being mentally retarded ALL makes you (= ) a (swine).


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That makes a little more sense but is also retarded because the facts you state about me are untrue, and even if they were, it is not at all logical they would make me a pig.

Same thing was said about E=MC^2 when Einstein first came up with it. And now look how far it is has come . It's theory in progress


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 15, 2015, 03:42:10 PM

Hey Ryu, 9/11 and cops getting killed is funny, lol. You're mad now, haha.

Aw, someone seems mad that I called him a swine .


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 15, 2015, 03:49:26 PM
I'm not mad, in fact, thinking of brutally murdered cops is making me quite happy, because its a funny thing and anyone who doesn't think its funny is a retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 15, 2015, 03:51:42 PM

... thinking of brutally murdered....

All day long....I'd imagine

You torture small animals for fun also?


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 15, 2015, 03:57:50 PM

... thinking of brutally murdered....

All day long....I'd imagine

You torture small animals for fun also?


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Small animals are innocent and beautiful creatures, as opposed to cops, who deserve pain, suffering, and death for their misdeeds.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 15, 2015, 04:08:32 PM


... thinking of brutally murdered....

All day long....I'd imagine

You torture small animals for fun also?


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Small animals are innocent and beautiful creatures, as opposed to cops, who deserve pain, suffering, and death for their misdeeds.



Right.....lets go with that



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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 20, 2015, 06:40:03 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-rules-put-workers-back-on-the-clock-1444158749?mod=776578645&kwp_0=50757 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-rules-put-workers-back-on-the-clock-1444158749?mod=776578645&kwp_0=50757) lol this article makes me mad as fuck, all the shit about how employees actually love being salaried and making the same whether they work 40 hours a week or 60 hours a week because it gives you freedom and autonomy and punching a clock (and collecting overtime pay) is demeaning
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 20, 2015, 07:24:54 PM
do you have a subscription to wall street journal or something ?

"To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 20, 2015, 07:47:15 PM
I clicked on it on Facebook and it let me read it. Here it is with commentary:

Some five million American workers will be newly eligible for overtime pay as early as next year. To get that pay, those managers, supervisors, data analysts and others may have to do something they haven’t done in years, if ever: punch a clock.

The proposed expansion of overtime rules put forth by the Obama administration has sent employers rushing to reallocate work and sketch out the costs.  :'( :'( :'( It has also posed a dilemma for managers, who say asking a new group of employees to clock in could change work in subtle yet profound ways, making some workers feel they are being pushed to a lower rung of the office caste system.

Yoking employees to the clock flies in the face of modern management theory, much of which holds that flexibility and autonomy are crucial for a high-performing workforce. Historically, clocking in has been the province of workers in blue-collar and service roles, while managerial, professional and white-collar workers have been free to manage their time as they need—one of the perks of moving up the corporate ladder. The new rules could change all that, experts say.

“For a lot of people, the difference between hourly or salaried is the difference between a job and a career,” says Nancy Hammer, senior government affairs policy counsel at the Society for Human Resource Management (SHRM) an HR professional group.

Under the proposed Department of Labor regulations, salaried workers earning less than $50,440 will be eligible for overtime pay. The rules would more than double the previous salary threshold for overtime-eligible workers, sweeping in some managers and supervisors. A Department of Labor spokesman declined to comment on when the rules would be completed or implemented.

Employers like Dollar Tree Inc. have argued against the rules, saying the shift would strip employees of status and flexibility. Some employees say they resent losing control of their time. ("some employees")

Workers who have had to start tracking their hours say the change felt like a step down—even when time-and-a-half pay fattened their wallets.

Jeff Berman, a data analyst at the Michigan Health & Hospital Association, a trade association for community hospitals, may be among those tracking hours if the proposed regulations go through.

While he stands to earn more, he says, “it just doesn’t feel as professional [if] I have to punch a clock.”
(lol)

A survey of 413 SHRM members found that 67% of respondents said that employees would have decreased autonomy and flexibility and 70% said their firms would likely offer fewer opportunities than before to work overtime, because of cost concerns.  :'( :'( :'( :'( Some 900 SHRM members have submitted comments to the Labor Department objecting to the proposals.

Extra pay may allay those objections, although many employers are expected to limit overtime hours to save costs, or shift some work onto others. U.S. employers spend an average of $540.80 per employee on overtime each year, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

“It kind of felt like a demotion” when Shaun Pilcher, a paralegal, had to start clocking in more than a decade ago. Mr. Pilcher, who works for Goldberg Segalla in White Plains, N.Y, now records his time in, time out and lunch breaks on a computer system.

“It’s nice to know that if you have to stay late, you’re being paid for those hours that you’re working,” he says.

Bosses, too, worry the time clock may weigh on staff morale.

In 2009, a Los Angeles-based manufacturer reclassified some plant supervisors from salaried to hourly when they were asked to go back on the production line. Longtime employees felt disappointment at having to punch back in, according to a human resources official at the company.

“It was a heartbreak for them. They felt like they had been working too long and too hard to now have to go back and clock in and out,” the official says, adding that she is concerned the proposed new regulations will have a similar impact for some of the firm’s current employees.
(lol okay mister/miss "HR official")

Hourly workers place a higher value on their time than salaried workers do, says Sanford DeVoe, an associate professor of management and organizations at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management, who studies how workers perceive time. Hourly workers are more likely than salaried ones to jump at extra duties if they will be paid more. However, hourly workers are less likely to take unpaid breaks or do other tasks free, because they equate time with money, he says. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Tom Stanton, chief executive of Huntsville, Ala.-based Adtran Inc., says he wants his employees to view their roles as more than mere jobs, and go the extra mile when the telecommunications company needs them. (how about you eat my asshole instead retard)

So, rather than asking them to record all their hours, he plans to ask newly overtime-eligible workers to keep tabs on when they are working more than 40 hours and report it to their managers on an honor system.

“To me, that’s an empowering thing if you’re not sitting there punching a clock,” he says. “Someone’s not looking over to see every move you make.”
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 20, 2015, 08:13:52 PM
“When you go to your public library, when you call your Fire Department or the Police Department, what do you think you’re calling?” Mr. Sanders said. “These are socialist institutions.”
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on October 20, 2015, 08:56:36 PM
Pft, way to go Bernie, you just got my local library defunded.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 20, 2015, 09:01:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbc6BJAiaZ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbc6BJAiaZ4)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 20, 2015, 09:05:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PJ1WFkm.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on October 20, 2015, 09:17:20 PM
"All cats are ghey." -Robert Smith
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 20, 2015, 09:49:03 PM

"All cats are ghey." -Robert Smith

Dogs all the way.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 20, 2015, 10:08:12 PM
Cats are win.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 20, 2015, 10:18:25 PM

Cats are win.

Ya whatever pinky.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 21, 2015, 11:52:51 AM
Libya: From Africa’s Wealthiest Democracy Under Gaddafi to Terrorist Haven After US Intervention (http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/20/libya-from-africas-wealthiest-democracy-under-gaddafi-to-terrorist-haven-after-us-intervention/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 21, 2015, 11:59:17 AM
Netanyahu: Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews (http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 22, 2015, 12:26:18 AM

sometimes, actually most of the time, i feel humanity is a big failure.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 22, 2015, 01:36:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8knmN7BuSzs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8knmN7BuSzs)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 22, 2015, 01:39:49 AM


sometimes, actually most of the time, i feel humanity is a big failure.

An asteroid from the sky could probably put humanity back in check....


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 22, 2015, 07:46:39 AM
Netanyahu: Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews ([url]http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525[/url])


The Prime Minister of Israel is literally a Holocaust denier lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 22, 2015, 07:47:27 AM

sometimes, actually most of the time, i feel humanity is a big failure.

Modern liberal identity politics and the right wing reaction to them are CIA/FBI psyops to (further) divide and weaken the left.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 22, 2015, 10:57:50 AM
i died watching that video last night
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 22, 2015, 01:43:43 PM
lmao http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/22/sorry-airbnb-you-dont-get-a-gold-star-for-paying-your-taxes/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/22/sorry-airbnb-you-dont-get-a-gold-star-for-paying-your-taxes/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on October 22, 2015, 01:45:53 PM
Hahaha airbnb is retarded
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 22, 2015, 04:27:18 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/K9NywxR.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 22, 2015, 06:29:53 PM
   Editorials

The Marvel Cinematic Universe Is Killing Auteur Theory. Good.
Maybe producer-driven movies aren't the worst thing ever.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 22, 2015, 06:30:12 PM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/K9NywxR.jpg[/url])


Che FTW!!!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 22, 2015, 07:42:57 PM
(https://binblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/thelongboom.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 22, 2015, 07:45:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CR8S-HXUEAADsYD.jpg:large)
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 24, 2015, 12:17:14 AM
Drugmaker offers $1 version of $750 life-saving pill - CNN
https://apple.news/ApndmZ_TwSGS5ElHgvb7UjQ




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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 24, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11949701/AEP-Eurozone-crosses-Rubicon-as-Portugals-anti-euro-Left-banned-from-power.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11949701/AEP-Eurozone-crosses-Rubicon-as-Portugals-anti-euro-Left-banned-from-power.html)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 24, 2015, 10:04:41 AM
i thought that stuff doesn't happen in our capitalist democracy
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 24, 2015, 10:13:35 AM
70% of CEOs' effect on company performance can be attributed to random chance. "CEOs can't be shown to add any value to the companies they run."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 24, 2015, 12:16:42 PM

70% of CEOs' effect on company performance can be attributed to random chance. "CEOs can't be shown to add any value to the companies they run."

Sure no idea is 100%, they go with one with the highest chance of success.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 27, 2015, 01:17:29 PM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
saw this billboard on the turnpike yesterday, lmfao


(http://conservativeintelcom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/blue-lives-matter-billboard-700x394.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on October 27, 2015, 01:25:43 PM
lol i saw some headlines but hadnt watched this til now.  cop struggling to apprehend a 12yo girl who isnt even resisting, lol.  what a violent uncoordinated retard
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 27, 2015, 01:28:35 PM
lol i saw some headlines but hadnt watched this til now.  cop struggling to apprehend a 12yo girl who isnt even resisting, lol.  what a violent uncoordinated retard

I am just confused as to how a person with a violent history was even allowed to be a SRO in the first place ....they really couldn't find someone else. This guy should be working with harden cons than teenagers.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 01:32:56 PM
I am just confused as to how a person with a violent history was even allowed to be a SRO in the first place

Probably recruiting from the police department is how it happened.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 01:33:53 PM
The SRO's in my high school merely tried to fuck/rape 14 and 15 year old white girls (and probably succeeded on numerous occasions).
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 27, 2015, 02:13:21 PM

The SRO's in my high school merely tried to fuck/rape 14 and 15 year old white girls (and probably succeeded on numerous occasions).

Hmm....


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 02:48:04 PM
70% of CEOs' effect on company performance can be attributed to random chance. "CEOs can't be shown to add any value to the companies they run."

retarded^
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 02:55:13 PM
70% of CEOs' effect on company performance can be attributed to random chance. "CEOs can't be shown to add any value to the companies they run."

retarded^

Excellent rebuttal you fucking simp.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 03:33:47 PM
i don't need to rebuttal against tacit fiction. jon may be far smarter than yourself, but some of the shit he says takes shit for brains
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 03:44:19 PM
Write another bazillion caremad words about it.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 04:39:44 PM
such a broker loser nerd word "caremad"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 04:41:10 PM
such a broker loser nerd word "caremad"

You sound quite caremad.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
why would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 27, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
i don't need to rebuttal against tacit fiction. jon may be far smarter than yourself, but some of the shit he says takes shit for brains
hm, it was a study. lol. and this isn't the only study done that shows ceo's worthlessness.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 27, 2015, 06:14:35 PM
you will never be part of the ruling class, always will be in the working class. act like it, idiot.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 06:19:12 PM
why would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.

The fact that you need to engage in this sort of public self-aggrandizement implies that you don't really believe this yourself, and perhaps that's what you're caremad about. Cheers.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 06:21:12 PM
you will never be part of the ruling class, always will be in the working class. act like it, idiot.

He's petit-bourgeois scum who leeches off his family's own relatively meager wealth to project the image of success and competence he has struggled to achieve his entire life.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 06:30:33 PM
you will never be part of the ruling class, always will be in the working class. act like it, idiot.

why would i do that when it's too easy for guys like me (smart, privileged with admirable work ethic) to become independently wealthy? Plus, I would have to go backwards, and actually leave the ruling class only to go join in company with unsophisticated worker bee's like yourself. does that make any sense
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 06:31:35 PM
why would i do that when it's too easy for guys like me (smart,

lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 06:38:39 PM
why would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.

The fact that you need to engage in this sort of public self-aggrandizement implies that you don't really believe this yourself, and perhaps that's what you're caremad about. Cheers.

that makes no sense. also, plenty of superior-types like myself are often confused for gloating merely for being ourselves... sometimes i forget that having an exceptional life isn't common place for you people and i talk about it as if it's no big deal

there is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. in other words, i'm here to help you guys become successful, by empowering you to actually do something useful with your lives from here on out. it's just another one of my great deeds.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 06:40:41 PM
why would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.

The fact that you need to engage in this sort of public self-aggrandizement implies that you don't really believe this yourself, and perhaps that's what you're caremad about. Cheers.

that makes no sense. also, plenty of superior-types like myself are often confused for gloating merely for being ourselves... sometimes i forget that having an exceptional life isn't common place for you people and i talk about it as if it's no big deal

there is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. in other words, i'm here to help you guys become successful, by empowering you to actually do something useful with your lives from here on out. it's just another one of my great deeds.

"I don't talk about how great I am because I have self esteem problems, I'm just being myself" - moron who admitted to hacking at obsolete computer game so the dozen people who still played it would accept him
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 06:44:26 PM
shut up worker bee

also, you are an internet bully who contributed to the suicide of one our own

aka i win, now we're at 6-0
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 06:45:43 PM
shut up worker bee

also, you are an internet bully who contributed to the suicide of one our own

aka i win, now we're at 6-0

You are really fucking mad right now, and its funny.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
This dude literally made big cry posts about how the only reason he hacked was so the war2 community would love him lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 06:48:16 PM
sounds like some more troll posts that went over your head

in any case, not surprised that you jump over the point about how you contributed to the soth's suicide considering you showed no remose and continued to be an internet bully to tman amoung many others and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 06:50:25 PM
sounds like some more troll posts that go over your head

in any case, not surprised you jump over point about how you contribute to suicide of soth considering you showed no remose and continued to be a pos to tman amoung many others and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die

That's not true Swift, and it is cynical and heartless of you to use Soth's suicide to attack me, not to mention insulting to Soth to imply that he cared enough about me giving him shit along with the rest of the forum to kill himself over it. But you are the emotionally healthy, smart, and not mad person here, lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 27, 2015, 06:51:21 PM
and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die

Lol now Swift is mad about me and Jon making posts about how the middle and upper class needs to be murdered. Good shit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 27, 2015, 07:58:37 PM
why would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.

The fact that you need to engage in this sort of public self-aggrandizement implies that you don't really believe this yourself, and perhaps that's what you're caremad about. Cheers.

that makes no sense. also, plenty of superior-types like myself are often confused for gloating merely for being ourselves... sometimes i forget that having an exceptional life isn't common place for you people and i talk about it as if it's no big deal

there is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. in other words, i'm here to help you guys become successful, by empowering you to actually do something useful with your lives from here on out. it's just another one of my great deeds.
a lack of class consciousness is no joke idiot
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: easycompany on October 27, 2015, 11:00:53 PM
how do u know they suicided?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 01:53:24 PM
sounds like some more troll posts that go over your head

in any case, not surprised you jump over point about how you contribute to suicide of soth considering you showed no remose and continued to be a pos to tman amoung many others and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die

That's not true Swift, and it is cynical and heartless of you to use Soth's suicide to attack me, not to mention insulting to Soth to imply that he cared enough about me giving him shit along with the rest of the forum to kill himself over it. But you are the emotionally healthy, smart, and not mad person here, lol.

Hey look, GN actually getting a serious post from me for once -

But oh god, I have to now... YOU just used the word heartless. That's just hypocritical as fuck.

It's known how you acted toward him prior. I definitely didn't say he killed himself over the shit you said, although I am saying it's possible you made the situation worse, or played a small CONTRIBUTING FACTOR towards his state of mind / emotional well-being prior to such. It's not like you could have known what he was going through, and i genuinely think that if you did you would have taken it easy on him, but the issue is that you never cleaned up your act afterwards. I go around acting like a clown, saying people blow at war2, their broke and have a fat mom, and i'm sure I've left a few bruises from time to time but for the most part people don't take me seriously, my insults are almost all completely untrue and people just pass me over as a clown/troll/moron/idiot. You however, you actively try to stab people and you're seriously ill intent about it.

Tman is just one example, but you were a total piece of shit to him. And I don't even like that guy, he tried to claim he had a program or whatever that proves I edited an ss and it was a total lie on his part. I'm sure half the people you harass with your shit don't care, like tk obviously you gave him shit and that guy just brushes everything off and doesn't seem to give a crap what anyone says.

P.S. He was suicidal, so of course the way you treated him most likely had an impact on him. The shit you say effects everyone to some degree, so how wouldn't it have effected someone in the mental state that he was in. That's not a question, as it's pretty obvious a suicidal person would take things someone else says even harder than someone in a more stable mental/emotional state.  So don't give me that shit about it's insulting to suggest he cared what you said to him
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 02:05:36 PM
sounds like some more troll posts that go over your head

in any case, not surprised you jump over point about how you contribute to suicide of soth considering you showed no remose and continued to be a pos to tman amoung many others and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die

That's not true Swift, and it is cynical and heartless of you to use Soth's suicide to attack me, not to mention insulting to Soth to imply that he cared enough about me giving him shit along with the rest of the forum to kill himself over it. But you are the emotionally healthy, smart, and not mad person here, lol.

Hey look, GN actually getting a serious post from me for once -

But oh god, I have to now... YOU just used the word heartless. That's just hypocritical as fuck.

It's known how you acted toward him prior. I definitely didn't say he killed himself over the shit you said, although I am saying it's possible you made the situation worse, or played a small CONTRIBUTING FACTOR towards his state of mind / emotional well-being prior to such. It's not like you could have known what he was going through, and i genuinely think that if you did you would have taken it easy on him, but the issue is that you never cleaned up your act afterwards. I go around acting like a clown, saying people blow at war2, their broke and have a fat mom, and i'm sure I've left a few bruises from time to time but for the most part people don't take me seriously, my insults are almost all completely untrue and people just pass me over as a clown/troll/moron/idiot. You however, you actively try to stab people and you're seriously ill intent about it.

Tman is just one example, but you were a total piece of shit to him. And I don't even like that guy, he tried to claim he had a program or whatever that proves I edited an ss and it was a total lie on his part. I'm sure half the people you harass with your shit don't care, like tk obviously you gave him shit and that guy just brushes everything off and doesn't seem to give a crap what anyone says.

P.S. He was suicidal, so of course the way you treated him most likely had an impact on him. The shit you say effects everyone to some degree, so how wouldn't it have effected someone in the mental state that he was in. That's not a question, as it's pretty obvious a suicidal person would take things someone else says even harder than someone in a more stable mental/emotional state.  So don't give me that shit about it's insulting to suggest he cared what you said to him

Lmfao.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
The amoral proven liar and hacker who reduces his own girlfriend to a piece of meat to score points on internet strangers suddenly grows a conscience and is super outraged that I called someone a fag online ten years ago. And it's different when he does it because,
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 04:56:37 PM
I knew you wouldn't be able to just settle with "lmfao," the truth is too unsettling to you for that.

p.s. that wasn't actually my girlfriend. the irony of derailing an anti-capitalism thread by coming in and having arguments over money, women, social/class status, etc seemed to have completely went over your head, and you took it as serious biz
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 05:00:15 PM
I knew you wouldn't be able to just settle with "lmfao," the truth is too unsettling to you for that.

Yeah, you can tell I'm shaken up from the whole sentence I wrote in response to your long caremad rant.

p.s. that wasn't actually my girlfriend. the irony of derailing an anti-capitalism thread by coming in and having arguments over money, women, social/class status, etc seemed to have completely went over your head, and you took it as serious biz

"Lol, the paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs I wrote about how awesome and superficial and misogynist I am were all jokes! I really fooled you all!" What's next, your years of cheating at Warcraft II and crying about how you did it to be accepted was all an elaborate ruse to own us too?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 05:09:52 PM
your stupidity really shined when you began compiling quotes of me directly contradicting myself and my values post after post, despite that it's obvious I was doing so deliberately. followed by countless serious posts twisting gray areas in each of our arguments, yours of which were very serious, because you caremad'd so much.

did i use that word correctly, nerd?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 05:11:14 PM
your stupidity really shined when you began compiling quotes of me directly contradicting myself and my values post after post, despite that it's obvious I was doing so deliberately.

Lol yeah because you definitely don't have a history for being a dishonest liar and hypocrite, it was definitely "obvious" that just more of the same from you was actually 11 dimensional chess trolling.

yours of which were very serious, because you caremad'd so much.

did i use that word correctly, nerd?

No, because I wasn't caremad, you were, and you still are, as evidenced by your desperate attempts to write off your ridiculous attempts to own me and TK and others as ironic trolling, which fool nobody.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 05:14:44 PM
Like you're so fucking stupid that you don't realize that even if it was true that all that shit was ironic trolling on your part (it wasn't), you're still a complete fucking self-owned idiot to be so invested in "owning" people that you'd expend that much effort to do it.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 05:28:42 PM
i'm trying to use your approach, the "lol you mad bro?", despite the fact that it's ridiculous that you would interpret me to be anything other than amused by myself

get ready for a sweet run on sentence:

hassan-i-sabbotagh in an nutshell:

but it really comes all full circle here, because you see it's you who is mad and you're mad because unlike me, you have nothing going for you in your life aside from being moderately well-read on Marxist philosophy, which you only adopted as your personal socioeconomic ideology as a means to justify your lackadaisical work-ethic, and your free rider who gives back nothing to society approach, which is demonstrated by your volume browsing habits during your work schedule, in which on one of the forums you choose to particular that we know of (forum.war2.ru), where you then go use your ideology to belittle people and scare them away from the forums (and are only able to do so because they aren't as well-read on one particular subject as you) all under your false pretense of you pretending to care about humanity and not wanting people to be exploited by evil capitalists and by the nature of capitalism itself, which we all know is just a disguise  proven by your apathy towards the people on this forum and borderline sadistic desire to see millions die, as well as just make people feel like shit on here.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 05:31:09 PM
here, i'll throw you a bone since you're retarded - i don't believe anything i said in that previous post.

well, except for you being a sadistic fuck. that much is obvious. you and smeagol should be buddy buddy. i don't know if i'll ever forgive you for how you treated soth and turtleman

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on October 28, 2015, 05:49:28 PM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
your stupidity really shined when you began compiling quotes of me directly contradicting myself and my values post after post, despite that it's obvious I was doing so deliberately.

Lol yeah because you definitely don't have a history for being a dishonest liar and hypocrite, it was definitely "obvious" that just more of the same from you was actually 11 dimensional chess trolling.

yours of which were very serious, because you caremad'd so much.

did i use that word correctly, nerd?

No, because I wasn't caremad, you were, and you still are, as evidenced by your desperate attempts to write off your ridiculous attempts to own me and TK and others as ironic trolling, which fool nobody.
lol, i'm struggling to accept that you're really so socially inept that you can't realize how overwhelmingly likely it is that someone would have to be kidding to be directly contracting himself back and forth every other post like I was. In any case, you're assuming that I'm suggesting I'm doing it in attempt to own people, i'm unarguably just fucking around, but "owning" people has nothing to do with it - you're the only one interested in "owning" people

lets not talk about which one of us expends too much effort/time on the forums.... lmao

p.s. plenty are aware, just not you because you're a fucktard ;p hell even tk was made aware of it, even if he didn't pick up on it pretty quick
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 28, 2015, 06:42:28 PM
Top CEOs Have $4.9 Billion Saved Up for Retirement. Nearly 1/3 of Workers Have Nothing.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 06:48:16 PM
i'm trying to use your approach, the "lol you mad bro?", despite the fact that it's ridiculous that you would interpret me to be anything other than amused by myself

get ready for a sweet run on sentence:

hassan-i-sabbotagh in an nutshell:

but it really comes all full circle here, because you see it's you who is mad and you're mad because unlike me, you have nothing going for you in your life aside from being moderately well-read on Marxist philosophy, which you only adopted as your personal socioeconomic ideology as a means to justify your lackadaisical work-ethic, and your free rider who gives back nothing to society approach, which is demonstrated by your volume browsing habits during your work schedule, in which on one of the forums you choose to particular that we know of (forum.war2.ru), where you then go use your ideology to belittle people and scare them away from the forums (and are only able to do so because they aren't as well-read on one particular subject as you) all under your false pretense of you pretending to care about humanity and not wanting people to be exploited by evil capitalists and by the nature of capitalism itself, which we all know is just a disguise  proven by your apathy towards the people on this forum and borderline sadistic desire to see millions die, as well as just make people feel like shit on here.



Mad?

here, i'll throw you a bone since you're retarded - i don't believe anything i said in that previous post.

Holy shit!!!

well, except for you being a sadistic fuck. that much is obvious. you and smeagol should be buddy buddy. i don't know if i'll ever forgive you for how you treated soth and turtleman

Protip: You can't really do "I'm cynically manipulating you by pretending to be a classist, misogynist asshole for days on end" and "I am morally outraged at your cyberbullying" at the same time, you have to pick one.

I don't really care if you forgive me or not for making fun of people on the internet, fursonally.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 06:51:43 PM
lol, i'm struggling to accept that you're really so socially inept that you can't realize how overwhelmingly likely it is that someone would have to be kidding to be directly contracting himself back and forth every other post like I was. In any case, you're assuming that I'm suggesting I'm doing it in attempt to own people, i'm unarguably just fucking around, but "owning" people has nothing to do with it - you're the only one interested in "owning" people

lets not talk about which one of us expends too much effort/time on the forums.... lmao

Lmao indeed.

p.s. plenty are aware, just not you because you're a fucktard ;p hell even tk was made aware of it, even if he didn't pick up on it pretty quick

Damn, so like 90% of the people who post here and play War2 are in on this epic trolling to own me by just pretending they hate you and think you're a stupid retard? This goes even deeper than I thought.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 06:52:50 PM

lmfao
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 07:10:44 PM
Sig test.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Protip: You can't really do "I'm cynically manipulating you by pretending to be a classist, misogynist asshole for days on end" and "I am morally outraged at your cyberbullying" at the same time, you have to pick one.

I don't really care if you forgive me or not for making fun of people on the internet, fursonally.

Yeah, actually I can. Me acting like an asshole who worships money, or sees women as objects doesn't really offend anyone. It's obnoxious, stupid and those who think it's serious just look down on it or me. At worst case, I might directly pick on a few people who I know don't give a fuck by saying their gf has saggy tits or they blow at war2, etc. All of my insults are just over the top stuff thats untrue. I don't actually push people off the forums / bully suicidal people / wish death upon people / have malicious intent to verbally stab people. Even your cronies, although maybe sharing some of your radical death wish views, act like decent human beings on here.

You're totally out to be an asshole to people for the sake of hurting their feelings, it's beyond twisted trolling/humor, and you want to play the "oh nobody gives a fuck on the forum" card when you know as well as everyone does that for every person on here that doesn't care there's another that does. but you act stupid to save face. meanwhile, everyone who reads this and has seen u post over the years knows its true. you'll try to save face with some post whether its a simple "lol" type or long disect of every sentence i've said, and you'll convince yourself in your mind that your post somehow trumps what was said, and you'll go on, but irregardless the truth remains and everyone knows it. Which sucks for you, because while everyone else is being light-hearted or doing prolonged over the top trolling like myself, you just simply care about your image on here.

There's something to be said with someone who has such strong negative feelings towards the evils of capitalism and hardships it puts on his fellow man, yet on an individual level looks to go around and treat people like shit who he doesn't even know. The first is noble and just, and the second makes you wonder if his heart is even in the right place.

And of course you don't care who you bully, you're apathetic and only care about your forum glory. 
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
Protip: You can't really do "I'm cynically manipulating you by pretending to be a classist, misogynist asshole for days on end" and "I am morally outraged at your cyberbullying" at the same time, you have to pick one.

I don't really care if you forgive me or not for making fun of people on the internet, fursonally.

Yeah, actually I can. Me acting like an asshole who worships money, or sees women as objects doesn't really offend anyone. It's obnoxious, stupid and those who think it's serious just look down on it or me. At worst case, I might directly pick on a few people who I know don't give a fuck by saying their gf has saggy tits or they blow at war2, etc. All of my insults are just over the top stuff thats untrue. I don't actually push people off the forums / bully suicidal people / wish death upon people / have malicious intent to verbally stab people. Even your cronies, although maybe sharing some of your radical death wish views, act like decent human beings on here.

You're totally out to be an asshole to people for the sake of hurting their feelings, it's beyond twisted trolling/humor, and you want to play the "oh nobody gives a fuck on the forum" card when you know as well as everyone does that for every person on here that doesn't care there's another that does. but you act stupid to save face. meanwhile, everyone who reads this and has seen u post over the years knows its true. you'll try to save face with some post whether its a simple "lol" type or long disect of every sentence i've said, and you'll convince yourself in your mind that your post somehow trumps what was said, and you'll go on, but irregardless the truth remains and everyone knows it. Which sucks for you, because while everyone else is being light-hearted or doing prolonged over the top trolling like myself, you just simply care about your image on here.

There's something to be said with someone who has such strong negative feelings towards the evils of capitalism and hardships it puts on his fellow man, yet on an individual level looks to go around and treat people like shit who he doesn't even know. The first is noble and just, and the second makes you wonder if his heart is even in the right place.

And of course you don't care who you bully, you're apathetic and only care about your forum glory. 

You are a fucking insane retard lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 08:53:47 PM
all truth~
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
Turn on your monitor.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 08:55:54 PM
if you didn't make tman run away you would still be able to issue him a formal apology.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
What are you even talking about you insane idiot? I hope for your sake you're drunk.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 08:57:27 PM
Hell, I remember one time feat going off about how much of a jackass you are when he was on vent
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
Hell, I remember one time feat going off about how much of a jackass you are when he was on vent

Lmfao.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 09:00:22 PM
shut up worker bee, your greatest ambition in life is to achieve forum glory so your pride is high... i get that, but take a second to realize what you have done to some of these poor souls
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
shut up worker bee, your greatest ambition in life is to achieve forum glory so your pride is high... i get that, but take a second to realize what you have done to some of these poor souls


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96VRfQU7voI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96VRfQU7voI)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 09:06:00 PM
that video isn't funny at all, it will make people realize you have a shitty sense of humor and hurt your forum glory. you can find a better one. in the meantime, do yourself a favor and take it down
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 09:08:17 PM
Stop drinking Swift.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 09:12:13 PM
stop being a horrible human being fuckboi
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 09:15:20 PM
stop being a horrible human being fuckboi

That's a mirror.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 09:17:41 PM
how long did you stare at it for? listen, you need to stop being a condescending human being. do you really think that of all the people who you ran off these forums, that if the group had to choose between you and having all of them, they'd choose you? you'd be gone in a heartbeat you selfish shell fish

i want turtleman back
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
how long did you stare at it for? listen, you need to stop being a condescending human being. do you really think that of all the people who you ran off these forums, that if the group had to choose between you and having all of them, they'd choose you? you'd be gone in a heartbeat you selfish shell fish

i want turtleman back

Okay Swift.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 09:23:34 PM
now go compile a list of all the other people you've ran off the forums over the years


you've got some apologizing to do dirt bag
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 09:24:18 PM
now go compile a list of all the other people you've ran off the forums over the years


you've got some apologizing to do dirt bag

I don't think I do, Swift.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 09:26:26 PM
of course you don't, you're a borderline sociopath

remorse to you will never be anything more to you than a word in the dictionary
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 09:28:25 PM
of course you don't, you're a borderline sociopath

remorse to you will never be anything more to you than a word in the dictionary

That's a mirror Swift.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 09:30:36 PM
I donate more money in a month than you make in a year, which is about equal to the amount of people you've ran off this forum sociopath

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 09:32:25 PM
I donate more money in a month than you make in a year, which is about equal to the amount of people you've ran off this forum sociopath



I don't think that's true Swift, and I think it speaks poorly of your self esteem and general emotional stability to make such crassly arrogant statements on a public forum.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 09:35:18 PM
There you go again, trying to dissect things with no ground to stand on. Why don't you try to evaluate why your soul is a blackhole instead and figure out why you aren't giving out countless overdo apologies

i don't know if you're more upset that I am better person than you, or that you make so little



Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 28, 2015, 09:39:28 PM
There you go again, trying to dissect things with no ground to stand on. Why don't you try to evaluate why your soul is a blackhole instead and figure out why you aren't giving out countless overdo apologies

i don't know if you're more upset that I am better person than you, or that you make so little

I think you're the one who's upset Swift.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 11:43:07 AM
Again, it makes no sense why a real estate tycoon, like myself, would have any reason to get upset while talking down to a worker bee. this conversation wouldn't have begun in the first place if you didn't harbor some form of resentment and jealousy towards me.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 29, 2015, 01:28:59 PM
Again, it makes no sense why a real estate tycoon, like myself, would have any reason to get upset while talking down to a worker bee. this conversation wouldn't have begun in the first place if you didn't harbor some form of resentment and jealousy towards me.

I'm pretty sure you're the one who suddenly started getting really mad and personal in this thread Swift, not me.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 02:16:07 PM
I have no idea why you would say I was mad. I am definitely not, and never was. Though, calling someone mad who is not is a near bullet proof way to make them such - so if thats your agenda, keep to it and I'll let you know once it works.

As for who got personal? I have to laugh at that one. You do realize that when we first talking non-stop in this thread like twenty pages ago, you were using ad hominem right off the get go and I didn't respond in kind until pages later? Lmao at how blatantly wrong you are sometimes. And you wonder why I just fuck around with you, say random shit, and don't take things seriously - because you're full of shit. You're over the top ridiculous and wrong all the time.

But I don't like that I had to touch on that, as I'm not finding facts to be humorous today, and I am not about to let the truth get in a way of a good time.

I really think we should break down the root of the problem here. I can't decide if it's because you're butt ugly or broke... whats your problem with me being a success story?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on October 29, 2015, 02:23:45 PM
You guys are both extremely mad online.  Only I, permanently detached and cool, am above it all.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 29, 2015, 02:30:04 PM
I have no idea why you would say I was mad. I am definitely not, and never was. Though, calling someone mad who is not is a near bullet proof way to make them such - so if thats your agenda, keep to it and I'll let you know once it works.

As for who got personal? I have to laugh at that one. You do realize that when we first talking non-stop in this thread like twenty pages ago, you were using ad hominem right off the get go and I didn't respond in kind until pages later? Lmao at how blatantly wrong you are sometimes. And you wonder why I just fuck around with you, say random shit, and don't take things seriously - because you're full of shit. You're over the top ridiculous and wrong all the time.

But I don't like that I had to touch on that, as I'm not finding facts to be humorous today, and I am not about to let the truth get in a way of a good time.

I really think we should break down the root of the problem here. I can't decide if it's because you're butt ugly or broke... whats your problem with me being a success story?

You sound mad still. Doesn't it get tiring being mad for so long?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 29, 2015, 02:30:42 PM
You guys are both extremely mad online.  Only I, permanently detached and cool, am above it all.

I am extremely calm, and Swift is still mad about how I exposed him as a liar many times over, in a post that owned him so brutally he had to stop posting for an extended length of time every time I posted it. This is an objective fact that can be confirmed through the forum posts, and it makes Swift even madder when it is pointed out.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 30, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=35&v=lgZjV6JRV4A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=35&v=lgZjV6JRV4A)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 30, 2015, 11:49:35 AM
US to Deploy Special Operations Forces in Syria: Official
NBCNews.com    - ‎46 minutes ago‎   
The U.S. will send a small number of U.S. special operations forces into Syria as part of a shift in its strategy against ISIS, officials said Friday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeRKe6skTbc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeRKe6skTbc)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 30, 2015, 11:58:35 AM

US to Deploy Special Operations Forces in Syria: Official
NBCNews.com    - ‎46 minutes ago‎   
The U.S. will send a small number of U.S. special operations forces into Syria as part of a shift in its strategy against ISIS, officials said Friday.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeRKe6skTbc[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeRKe6skTbc[/url])


I am sure they will treat your Iraqi family with respect.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 12:39:49 PM
I have no idea why you would say I was mad. I am definitely not, and never was. Though, calling someone mad who is not is a near bullet proof way to make them such - so if thats your agenda, keep to it and I'll let you know once it works.

As for who got personal? I have to laugh at that one. You do realize that when we first talking non-stop in this thread like twenty pages ago, you were using ad hominem right off the get go and I didn't respond in kind until pages later? Lmao at how blatantly wrong you are sometimes. And you wonder why I just fuck around with you, say random shit, and don't take things seriously - because you're full of shit. You're over the top ridiculous and wrong all the time.

But I don't like that I had to touch on that, as I'm not finding facts to be humorous today, and I am not about to let the truth get in a way of a good time.

I really think we should break down the root of the problem here. I can't decide if it's because you're butt ugly or broke... whats your problem with me being a success story?

You sound mad still. Doesn't it get tiring being mad for so long?

Mad about what? You tried to argue against me using points I already covered, like work conditions etc, prior to you even coming in. Then you twisted arguments.

mad that you're a broke nerd who spends almost every day on forums trying to sound smart and get forum glory and has a shitty job going no where? :D
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 30, 2015, 12:49:05 PM
I have no idea why you would say I was mad. I am definitely not, and never was. Though, calling someone mad who is not is a near bullet proof way to make them such - so if thats your agenda, keep to it and I'll let you know once it works.

As for who got personal? I have to laugh at that one. You do realize that when we first talking non-stop in this thread like twenty pages ago, you were using ad hominem right off the get go and I didn't respond in kind until pages later? Lmao at how blatantly wrong you are sometimes. And you wonder why I just fuck around with you, say random shit, and don't take things seriously - because you're full of shit. You're over the top ridiculous and wrong all the time.

But I don't like that I had to touch on that, as I'm not finding facts to be humorous today, and I am not about to let the truth get in a way of a good time.

I really think we should break down the root of the problem here. I can't decide if it's because you're butt ugly or broke... whats your problem with me being a success story?

You sound mad still. Doesn't it get tiring being mad for so long?

Mad about what? You tried to argue against me using points I already covered, like work conditions etc, prior to you even coming in. Then you twisted arguments.

mad that you're a broke nerd who spends almost every day on forums trying to sound smart and get forum glory and has a shitty job going no where? :D

You're still really mad Swift, you should try chilling out.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 12:51:41 PM
nerd who spends all day every day for over a decade arguing on forums, belittling people and seeking forum glory tells someone on the forums they're mad :D
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 30, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
ted cruz said sanders is a Bolshevik
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 30, 2015, 02:58:01 PM
nerd who spends all day every day for over a decade arguing on forums, belittling people and seeking forum glory tells someone on the forums they're mad :D

You are mad, Swift.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 04:52:23 PM
Even if I were mad, which I am not, that wouldn't counteract the amount of pwnage you've endured as of late.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 30, 2015, 06:01:32 PM
are police part of the working class?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 30, 2015, 06:02:49 PM
"The worker who becomes a policeman in the service of the capitalist state, is a bourgeois cop, not a worker." - Leon Trotsky
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 30, 2015, 06:03:11 PM
Bolivia: 'For a Lasting Solution to the Climate Crisis We Must Destroy Capitalism'
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 30, 2015, 08:16:45 PM
are police part of the working class?

They're not, OP.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 30, 2015, 10:21:12 PM
Pigs confuse me. They're just wage earners, in third world countries they're like getting poverty level wages,  but mindlessly defend their wealthy owners.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on October 30, 2015, 11:37:45 PM
anyways

happy halloween


(https://i.imgur.com/1Tv8aKG.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on October 31, 2015, 08:23:01 AM
Pigs confuse me. They're just wage earners, in third world countries they're like getting poverty level wages,  but mindlessly defend their wealthy owners.

Depending on their economics they could technically be "working class" but they're still capitalist foot soldiers and are thus enemies. Basically the equivalent of working class retards joining the SA or whatever.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 01, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
http://youtu.be/Wshtnj_V91Q (http://youtu.be/Wshtnj_V91Q)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 02, 2015, 07:31:04 AM
Socialism will make anime real
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 03, 2015, 07:19:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9zUOLq9.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 03, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8knmN7BuSzs[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8knmN7BuSzs[/url])



if you don't understand the context of that picture you didn't watch this epic video when i posted it the first time.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 03, 2015, 08:00:02 PM
(http://imgur.com/5NVSmog.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on November 04, 2015, 01:33:38 AM

([url]http://imgur.com/5NVSmog.jpg[/url])


Hm got your distinctive pink war paint


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 07, 2015, 01:35:32 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/BRcsXpZ.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 07, 2015, 07:49:52 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/BRcsXpZ.jpg)

Is a reddit amateur comedian meme really necessary to make this point.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 07, 2015, 01:55:36 PM
"welfare swine" as ryu calls them , literally contribute more to the economy than the filthy rich. lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 07, 2015, 02:02:42 PM


good joke
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 15, 2015, 08:28:41 AM
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/12239369_10153159883795667_2246283240727701057_o.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 15, 2015, 08:29:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/cFakXGK.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 15, 2015, 08:30:04 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/b7UquRk.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 15, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
who are those retards talking about attacking exactly? syria, the country already being bombed by every major power?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 15, 2015, 07:56:24 PM
they want it to be bombed vietnam style
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 15, 2015, 11:43:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPtkd8Oy8gc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPtkd8Oy8gc)

not surprising fascist are protesting in france, but being shut down by opposition with cooler heads.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 16, 2015, 07:33:15 AM
but being shut down by opposition with cooler heads.

lol if you think thats gonna last
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 16, 2015, 07:47:14 AM
(http://i64.tinypic.com/157g6ms.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on November 16, 2015, 10:30:37 AM
(http://i.snag.gy/HwJbW.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on November 16, 2015, 10:38:28 AM
http://imgur.com/gallery/oG1p95r (http://imgur.com/gallery/oG1p95r)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on November 16, 2015, 10:39:36 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Sd23kkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/xZAOC4t.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 16, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
[url]http://imgur.com/gallery/oG1p95r[/url] ([url]http://imgur.com/gallery/oG1p95r[/url])

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 16, 2015, 11:37:55 AM
but being shut down by opposition with cooler heads.

lol if you think thats gonna last
what are u talking about?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 16, 2015, 11:48:32 AM
but being shut down by opposition with cooler heads.

lol if you think thats gonna last
what are u talking about?

"Cooler heads prevailing over fascism" is not going to last in France, or Europe in general.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 16, 2015, 01:27:08 PM
yea probably not, reactionaries do seem to be the majority.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 16, 2015, 01:55:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/tlJRhXp.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 16, 2015, 01:56:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/tlJRhXp.jpg)

Rofl.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 16, 2015, 01:57:00 PM
*boils thousands of black people alive in molten sugar cane* Just imagine what we would do if we weren't so civilized!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 16, 2015, 01:59:46 PM
"Some of you need to be honest with yourselves. follows this sentence up with blatant disingenuous sentences"
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 16, 2015, 02:07:59 PM
 Hundreds of civilians killed in US-led air strikes on Isis targets – report

Airwars project details ‘credible reports’ of at least 459 non-combatant deaths, including 100 children, in 52 air strikes





yea that should stop terrorism.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 16, 2015, 02:14:45 PM
Hundreds of civilians killed in US-led air strikes on Isis targets – report

Airwars project details ‘credible reports’ of at least 459 non-combatant deaths, including 100 children, in 52 air strikes





yea that should stop terrorism.

Hm, that's not what I read from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which said there were about 10 US civilian casualties but five hundred trillion Russian civilian casualties.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 16, 2015, 02:21:17 PM
rofl i was reading some crap on some western media outlet about Russia bombing a hospital in Syria, it was totally not confirmed but they went with it anyways. "RUSSIA BOMBS HOSPITAL", meanwhile it was found the hospital was fine and never was under attack. This is like probably not even after a month the U.S Really did bomb a hospital in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on November 16, 2015, 02:31:27 PM
lol the "syrian observatory of human rights" btw is just one guy in london
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 16, 2015, 02:33:47 PM
lol the "syrian observatory of human rights" btw is just one guy in london

Uh it has human rights in the name and is cited as a reputable source by a number of mainstream Western media outlets, but okay? You probably read Russia Today like some kind of psycho Alex Jones guy  ::)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 18, 2015, 07:46:03 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTwKGaSWoAAtVgN.png:large)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 18, 2015, 02:20:03 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/us-led-air-strikes-on-isis-targets-killed-more-than-450-civilians-report (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/us-led-air-strikes-on-isis-targets-killed-more-than-450-civilians-report)

The air campaign against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria has killed more than 450 civilians, according to a new report, even though the US-led coalition has so far acknowledged just two non-combatant deaths.

...

The bloodiest was a 3 June air strike on a suspected IED [improvised explosive device] factory and storage facility in Hawija, Iraq. Videos and photos posted online after the bombing show a landscape of destroyed buildings and mangled metal. Local people told al-Jazeera and Reuters that over 70 civilians were killed.

...

In Syria, the worst incidents include a 28 December air strike on an Isis facility in Al Bab that was being used as a temporary prison. Reports gathered by Airwars found that at least 58 prisoners – many of whom were being held for petty infractions of Isis’ rules, such as buying cigarettes – were killed. Local activists claimed that the use of the building as a prison was well known.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 18, 2015, 06:15:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Xzi0uj1.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 18, 2015, 06:33:31 PM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/Xzi0uj1.jpg[/url])


Sanders isn't wrong in the sense that mass immigration is a policy encouraged by the capitalist class to undermine organized labor in the imperial core. His error is creating a false dichotomy between neoliberal "open borders" policy and a more restrictive and protectionist immigration policy, essentially the National Socialist position, while completely eschewing the only realistic solution to the problem, the building of an international worker's movement to topple global capitalism once and for all. Cheers.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on November 19, 2015, 09:14:01 AM
U.S. gender pay gap is getting worse - CNN
https://apple.news/AUbyUTl2fQYmNAgtLW1Flow


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on November 19, 2015, 10:07:10 AM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/Xzi0uj1.jpg[/url])


Sanders isn't wrong in the sense that mass immigration is a policy encouraged by the capitalist class to undermine organized labor in the imperial core. His error is creating a false dichotomy between neoliberal "open borders" policy and a more restrictive and protectionist immigration policy, essentially the National Socialist position, while completely eschewing the only realistic solution to the problem, the building of an international worker's movement to topple global capitalism once and for all. Cheers.

Chears.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on November 19, 2015, 01:29:38 PM

([url]http://i.imgur.com/Xzi0uj1.jpg[/url])


Sanders isn't wrong in the sense that mass immigration is a policy encouraged by the capitalist class to undermine organized labor in the imperial core. His error is creating a false dichotomy between neoliberal "open borders" policy and a more restrictive and protectionist immigration policy, essentially the National Socialist position, while completely eschewing the only realistic solution to the problem, the building of an international worker's movement to topple global capitalism once and for all. Cheers.

Chears.


(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1916526/images/o-CHEERS-facebook.jpg)


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on November 20, 2015, 03:06:55 PM
China's consumers to spend $6.4 trillion by 2025 - CNN
https://apple.news/A0AzfrZnaTHKfozSeD9E9og


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 21, 2015, 09:21:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fnhS5PJ.jpg)


hmm this quote sounds familiar...


Vladimir Lenin argued that as socialism is replaced by communism, the state would "wither away"[9] as strong centralized control progressively reduces as local communities gain more empowerment. As he put succinctly: "So long as the state exists there is no freedom. When there is freedom, there will be no state."


oh.
ancaps  lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 22, 2015, 09:47:37 AM
Lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 26, 2015, 07:51:04 PM
https://np.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/3ucp8y/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_greece/
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 27, 2015, 09:03:51 AM
https://np.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/3ucp8y/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_greece/

lollllll
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on November 27, 2015, 09:06:32 AM
Quote
It hurt really bad and I remember yelling "you're breaking the NAP" and things like that. "Stop initiating force against me."

probably a troll but pretty good anyway
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 29, 2015, 11:13:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/lpxbzjv.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 29, 2015, 05:48:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBAYCSApklI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBAYCSApklI)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on November 30, 2015, 03:30:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/MMJ9Xva.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 02, 2015, 02:48:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tUIeqkR.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/oMpmleC.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on December 02, 2015, 03:27:08 PM
https://np.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/3ucp8y/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_greece/

lollllll
fascist gets owned
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 02, 2015, 03:44:35 PM
i think it's ironic as fuck that the inspiration for advocates of "free" markets and capitalists would probably be  a socialist today.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 02, 2015, 04:31:32 PM
i think it's ironic as fuck that the inspiration for advocates of "free" markets and capitalists would probably be  a socialist today.

If you're talking about Smith then that quote isn't meant in a "this is bad" kind of way, its a simple statement of fact and one that Smith and others of his social stature at the time would have agreed is a good thing.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 02, 2015, 06:03:16 PM
Well that's true his social class would have polluted his way of thinking
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 02, 2015, 06:04:42 PM
It's like we would read that quote now and we automatically add "...and that's a bad thing" to the end because even modern liberals think being blatantly undemocratic is a bad thing, even if it interferes with capitalism. But at the time Smith and his peers would have automatically added "...and that's a good thing."
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 02, 2015, 06:05:30 PM
This is a pretty intredasting book I've been reading off and on the past year that talks a lot about that stuff, including Smith specifically https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 04, 2015, 09:40:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iYN3f9N.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on December 04, 2015, 09:41:23 AM
This is a pretty intredasting book I've been reading off and on the past year that talks a lot about that stuff, including Smith specifically https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism)
Check out this poster that after a full year hasn't managed to finish a book.  Need help sounding out the big words?  LOL...
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 04, 2015, 09:42:59 AM
I've been looking for a book about the history of capitalism, the history of capitalism wiki article is liberal garbage.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 04, 2015, 09:47:07 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/business/dealbook/how-mark-zuckerbergs-altruism-helps-himself.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/business/dealbook/how-mark-zuckerbergs-altruism-helps-himself.html)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 04, 2015, 09:48:20 AM
This is a pretty intredasting book I've been reading off and on the past year that talks a lot about that stuff, including Smith specifically https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism)
Check out this poster that after a full year hasn't managed to finish a book.  Need help sounding out the big words?  LOL...

I read at my own pace. Problem?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on December 04, 2015, 09:59:41 AM
For you, maybe, because your own pace seems to be limited by severe literacy problems.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on December 04, 2015, 10:00:43 AM
Being illiterate in 2015 in the west would be cool because you wouldn't be able to use the Internet at all.  You'd probably grow big and strong and powerful.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 04, 2015, 10:07:10 AM
For you, maybe, because your own pace seems to be limited by severe literacy problems.

I am quite literate, actually, its just I would rather game and post.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 04, 2015, 11:06:05 AM
am i the only one on earth that doesn't play video games
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 04, 2015, 11:14:51 AM
am i the only one on earth that doesn't play video games

No most people are lame ass normies.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on December 04, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
am i the only one on earth that doesn't play video games
No video games, eh?  That's weird.  What do you do, browse reddit and watch Netflix?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 04, 2015, 11:38:23 AM
i haven't even been using netflix. i do a lot of reading and watching youtube videos, buzzerbeater.com, yahoo nba fantasy. and yea making fun of liberals on reddit.

how do you avoid those creepy gamergate dweebs when you're playing online  , they're a festering infestation on the gaming community.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 04, 2015, 11:42:14 AM
i haven't even been using netflix. i do a lot of reading and watching youtube videos, buzzerbeater.com, yahoo nba fantasy. and yea making fun of liberals on reddit.

how do you avoid those creepy gamergate dweebs when you're playing online  , they're a festering infestation on the gaming community.

Gamergate.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 04, 2015, 11:44:13 AM
Saying the word "Gamergate" and thinking about how Gamergate is apparently a real thing that people have opinions about is really funny.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 04, 2015, 11:53:45 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi (https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi)


https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/)

"SJW are people, who are so far left, that they are racist/fascist."[...]"In short: people, who are left and want to force left ideas on others by tactics Hitler used."

"Political correctness has literally killed millions."

"the feminists will succeed in completely castrating their own Swedish, white society that is already failing because of the pussification."


Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 04, 2015, 12:30:21 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi (https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi)


https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/)

"SJW are people, who are so far left, that they are racist/fascist."[...]"In short: people, who are left and want to force left ideas on others by tactics Hitler used."

"Political correctness has literally killed millions."

"the feminists will succeed in completely castrating their own Swedish, white society that is already failing because of the pussification."




Fairly chill shit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 04, 2015, 02:36:42 PM
After perusing the evidence I am now a committed and enthusiastic Gamergate supporter. Fuck SJW beta cucks! Don't fuck with gamers!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 04, 2015, 06:19:10 PM
that cuck shit is hilarious as it awkward, because of the blatant projection.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 04, 2015, 06:23:11 PM
It's a really popular meme among right wing retards because it resonates with their sexual insecurities.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 04, 2015, 07:29:37 PM
https://pplswar.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/bernie-sanders-marxist-translator/


lawl
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 05, 2015, 12:03:19 AM
https://pplswar.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/bernie-sanders-marxist-translator/


lawl

Roflmao.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 05, 2015, 12:04:29 AM
Were these people like 12 in 2008 or are they just retarded.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 06, 2015, 07:53:22 AM
fuck pigs, look at these psychotic cowards

Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 06, 2015, 06:19:56 PM
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-waiting-game-communist-monopoly-teaches-downside-of-socialist-life-a-740587.html (http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-waiting-game-communist-monopoly-teaches-downside-of-socialist-life-a-740587.html)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 06, 2015, 08:20:39 PM
[url]http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-waiting-game-communist-monopoly-teaches-downside-of-socialist-life-a-740587.html[/url] ([url]http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-waiting-game-communist-monopoly-teaches-downside-of-socialist-life-a-740587.html[/url])


That's a pretty funny double standard because its not like regular Monopoly requires the player to deal with absentee landlords and slumlords and shit.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 06, 2015, 08:47:48 PM
...and in capitalism there are no long lines, because most people can't even afford the food to begin with.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 08, 2015, 03:14:48 AM
Why Walmart is suing Puerto Rico - CNN
https://apple.news/A5bY4NkdtTQSjNZfNtj03Mw




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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 09, 2015, 09:14:12 PM
Half of all renters can't afford the rent - CNN
https://apple.news/ANQ3ny1daTCiEnkdHLHH3AA


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 10, 2015, 03:19:10 PM
http://www.thenation.com/article/why-this-socialist-feminist-is-for-hillary/ (http://www.thenation.com/article/why-this-socialist-feminist-is-for-hillary/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 10, 2015, 03:27:15 PM
[url]http://www.thenation.com/article/why-this-socialist-feminist-is-for-hillary/[/url] ([url]http://www.thenation.com/article/why-this-socialist-feminist-is-for-hillary/[/url])


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 12, 2015, 07:06:12 PM
Pirate Bay founder believes "the Internet is shit today" due to the influence of capitalistic monopolies and states and that a "total system crash" is looming
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 14, 2015, 12:56:56 PM
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/11/philanthropy-charity-banga-carnegie-gates-foundation-development/ (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/11/philanthropy-charity-banga-carnegie-gates-foundation-development/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 14, 2015, 12:59:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/aLUiy89.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on December 14, 2015, 01:46:02 PM
(http://redquillbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/The-Communist-Manifesto-Illustrated-Chapter-One-HIstorical-Materialism-2.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 14, 2015, 11:04:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/aLUiy89.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on December 15, 2015, 09:35:31 AM
A Texas plumber is taking legal action against a car dealership he claims is responsible for a truck he once owned ending up in the possession of Syrian extremists.

Mark Oberholtzer is seeking $1 million in damages against AutoNation Ford Gulf Freeway, where he says an employee stopped him from removing his plumbing company’s logo before he sold them his Ford F250 in October 2013. The car was later sold at an auction and was eventually shipped to Turkey. From there, according to the suit, it ended up in Syria.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B46sIcBCQAE3r-2.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 15, 2015, 03:17:54 PM
Pfft, the car dealership stopped him from removing the company logo? This guy is a complete dumbass, it should have been his first condition when selling the car to the dealership.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 17, 2015, 12:23:00 PM
merriam-websters definition of socialism

a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies[1]


lololololol. they know this isn't what socialism is, but must propagate the myths in the benefit of their ruling bourgeoisie masters.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on December 17, 2015, 12:29:11 PM
https://www.reddit.com/user/martinshkreli (https://www.reddit.com/user/martinshkreli)
677533622023249920[/tweet]] (http://[tweet)[/url]
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 17, 2015, 12:36:25 PM
his punishment will definitely fit the crime, murica's justice system is fair.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 17, 2015, 12:44:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Urv-kizQq8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Urv-kizQq8)


owned
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 24, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cz3LNEg.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on December 26, 2015, 03:20:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hQpLCvl.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 05, 2016, 11:00:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/z74fVku.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on January 06, 2016, 07:48:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/z74fVku.jpg)

One of my faves.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on January 06, 2016, 01:34:32 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/z74fVku.jpg)

One of my faves.


Welfare swine


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on January 06, 2016, 09:53:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVBIqtuWwAAgelK.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on January 07, 2016, 04:18:13 PM
Dawn Amos, 67, died as a result of suffering chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), a collection of lung diseases.

It left her with difficulty breathing, unable to walk for long periods of time, dress herself or do daily tasks independently.

She received attendance allowance from the Department of Work and Pensions to help with the cost of her personal care.

Heartbroken husband Mick Amos, 64, of Masefield Road, Braintree, discovered a letter sent from the department two days after his wife’s death.

It notified Mrs Amos that her allowance was being withdrawn based on ‘treatment, medication, symptoms and test results’.

It had been sent on the day, November 27, Mr Amos had taken the decision to turn off Dawn’s life support machine.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on January 07, 2016, 04:28:54 PM
Dawn Amos, 67, died as a result of suffering chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), a collection of lung diseases.

It left her with difficulty breathing, unable to walk for long periods of time, dress herself or do daily tasks independently.

She received attendance allowance from the Department of Work and Pensions to help with the cost of her personal care.

Heartbroken husband Mick Amos, 64, of Masefield Road, Braintree, discovered a letter sent from the department two days after his wife’s death.

It notified Mrs Amos that her allowance was being withdrawn based on ‘treatment, medication, symptoms and test results’.

It had been sent on the day, November 27, Mr Amos had taken the decision to turn off Dawn’s life support machine.

Nice. Obamacare win! What now Rethuglicans?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 07, 2016, 07:16:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/WoxWrev.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 12, 2016, 01:58:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ncx3cN5.jpg)
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on January 12, 2016, 06:41:19 PM
http://youtu.be/yDH4C0B956Y




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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 12, 2016, 09:10:41 PM
god damn, commodification of the homeless.. capitalism is a vile repugnant cancer..
that Chinese bourgeois scum could have at least given out the $300 promised initially.  i mean how are you promising homeless people money then backing out of it at the last minute.

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on January 13, 2016, 09:19:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/cJof1Te.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 13, 2016, 05:50:39 PM
(http://smoloko.com/wp-content/uploads/BolshevikRothschildMeme.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on January 13, 2016, 06:13:28 PM
([url]http://smoloko.com/wp-content/uploads/BolshevikRothschildMeme.jpg[/url])


Hell, the deeply insane meme makes a good point.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 14, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
https://www.rt.com/usa/328709-pennsylvania-officer-kills-girl/ (https://www.rt.com/usa/328709-pennsylvania-officer-kills-girl/)


A Pennsylvania constable fatally shot a 12-year-old girl during an attempt to evict her family from their home. The bullet was fired at the girl’s father, passed through his arm and hit the child, who died instantly.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 14, 2016, 11:25:05 AM
According to The Counted, a database maintained by the Guardian newspaper that tracks killings by US law enforcement, Ciara was the 21st person and first child killed by police since the beginning of 2016.


what the fuck. pigs .
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on January 14, 2016, 12:39:55 PM
https://www.rt.com/usa/328709-pennsylvania-officer-kills-girl/ (https://www.rt.com/usa/328709-pennsylvania-officer-kills-girl/)


A Pennsylvania constable fatally shot a 12-year-old girl during an attempt to evict her family from their home. The bullet was fired at the girl’s father, passed through his arm and hit the child, who died instantly.
newb this was posted a day ago in the ban guns thread
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 14, 2016, 06:17:01 PM
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/4gex0.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on January 14, 2016, 06:18:18 PM
Anarchism is gay.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 15, 2016, 10:19:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYkSfa2UMAAFmo-.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYkSfguUEAA7cQp.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYkSf5pUQAMwDLg.jpg)




LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on January 16, 2016, 09:57:19 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYkSfa2UMAAFmo-.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYkSfguUEAA7cQp.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYkSf5pUQAMwDLg.jpg)




LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Why is there a bowl of soup at the top of this infographic
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 16, 2016, 06:46:56 PM
https://www.facebook.com/510121929129340/videos/661052624036269/ (https://www.facebook.com/510121929129340/videos/661052624036269/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 17, 2016, 07:14:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hJLln8V.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 17, 2016, 07:16:11 PM
nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on January 18, 2016, 04:57:35 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/hJLln8V.jpg)



I think someone doesn't like to work.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on January 20, 2016, 10:29:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0WksvOe.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on January 20, 2016, 11:45:58 PM
The messages show that from the moment Flint decided to draw its water from a new source, the Flint River, officials were discounting concerns about its quality and celebrating a change meant to save the cash-starved city millions of dollars. From 2011 to 2015, Flint was in state receivership, its finances controlled by a succession of four emergency managers appointed by Mr. Snyder’s administration.

That upbeat mood lasted for months, even as residents began complaining about the new water’s foul odor, odd color and strange health effects, and began showing up at events with “jugs of brownish water.”

A news release on April 25, 2014, from the City of Flint announcing the change to the water source acknowledged, “Even with a proven track record of providing perfectly good water for Flint, there still remains lingering uncertainty about the quality of the water” by the public.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on January 20, 2016, 11:51:17 PM
Flint, led at the time by an emergency manager who was appointed by the state to help solve the city’s fiscal woes, switched water supplies in April 2014 — in part to save money, which the emails showed amounted to $1 million to $2 million a year.

For almost five decades, Flint drew its water from the city of Detroit’s water system, but concerns about high prices from Detroit helped lead to a switch. The city’s mayor at the time, Dayne Walling, encouraged leaders to “toast” the switch with a taste of the “regular, good, pure drinking” water, the governor’s emails show.

The mood grew less upbeat as time went on. People talked about smells and rashes. Residents carried jugs of brownish water to meetings. One state legislator warned the governor in a letter that his constituents were “on the verge of civil unrest.”

At points, the water was found to have bacterial contamination, and then disinfectant used to kill the bacteria caused a chemical contamination. Even after those problems were resolved, many residents said the water was bad.

Within months of the switch, a General Motors engine plant in Flint found that the city’s water had corroded parts, and stopped using it. A hospital saw that the water was damaging its instruments, and stepped up its own filtering and use of bottled water, as did a local university.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on February 05, 2016, 12:25:11 PM
Quote
Once watched a team of electricians in Saudi, the ones who did the work were Filipinos highly efficient. The Boss of the team, a Saudi, sat on a chair the whole time looking superior and I am dead certain hadn't a clue.

this comment made on reddit in the syrian civil war subreddit reminded me of capitalism.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on February 07, 2016, 12:30:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/RacGxcY.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on February 08, 2016, 08:18:24 AM
I wonder if he got extra credit for that answer.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on February 16, 2016, 06:20:04 PM
Invalid Tweet ID

lol sean lennon is an ancap
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on February 16, 2016, 06:35:03 PM
Sean Lennon is an ancap.  Also, Sean Lennon is a nobody
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on February 16, 2016, 06:43:38 PM
just john lennon and yoko ono's retard failed abortion
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on February 17, 2016, 07:51:42 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbL2UVxW0AAZrog.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on February 20, 2016, 12:07:35 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Fy83zF9.jpg



question 8 rofl

"would ipods or cell phones even exist with no property right???" how about learning what private property is vs personal property before coming up with these dumbfuck questions u bourgie-shill
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on February 22, 2016, 10:50:34 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb02Rr-W0AA3vSb.jpg)
Title: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on February 22, 2016, 01:31:49 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb02Rr-W0AA3vSb.jpg)

Looks like future blid.

Probably switch out that US flag for a North Korean one tho.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on February 22, 2016, 01:56:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8VrWPOm.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on February 22, 2016, 02:37:40 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/8VrWPOm.jpg)

Fun fact: the sea cow is no longer endangered.


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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 07, 2016, 01:55:50 PM
looks my province is going to experiment with a basic income... finland and the netherlands have already being doing this.

more reforms for the failing capitalist system  ;D
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 15, 2016, 11:38:25 AM
From this article about Trump's get-rich-quick books:
In both Why We Want You to Be Rich and Midas Touch, Trump and Kiyosaki discourage their readers from taking jobs and "working hard" for money when they can become entrepreneurs and investors.
"When Donald and I think about working hard," Kiyosaki writes in Why We Want You to Be Rich, "while we both work hard individually, we mostly think about other people working hard for us to help make us rich."
Kiyosaki uses the acronym "OPT," or "other people’s time," to describe this method of getting rich. Likewise, Kiyosaki and Trump employ "OPM," or "other people’s money," in reference to taking out loans for investments, recommending their readers take on "good debt" in pursuit of becoming rich. They encourage readers to invest in real estate, oil companies, and gold and silver mines, while discouraging investment in any and all mutual funds.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 23, 2016, 01:24:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_eJ1LZ8y3U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_eJ1LZ8y3U)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 23, 2016, 05:58:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cg0GX87.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on March 24, 2016, 09:56:06 AM
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/north-carolina-lgbt-discrimination-transgender-bathrooms/475125/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/north-carolina-lgbt-discrimination-transgender-bathrooms/475125/) its really fucked up and sad how republicans have turned my home state into mississippi :(
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on March 24, 2016, 09:56:55 AM
also duke energy poisoned the well water i grew up drinking (yes this is why i'm so gay and retarded lol) and every time i go home for christmas the past two years the laundry room has stacks of water bottles everywhere and the state recently said the water is actually fine. lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on March 25, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
Three wolves and six goats are discussing what to have for dinner. One courageous goat makes an impassioned case: “We should put it to a vote!” The other goats fear for his life, but surprisingly, the wolves acquiesce. But when everyone is preparing to vote, the wolves take three of the goats aside.

“Vote with us to make the other three goats dinner,” they threaten. “Otherwise, vote or no vote, we’ll eat you.”

The other three goats are shocked by the outcome of the election: a majority, including their comrades, has voted for them to be killed and eaten. They protest in outrage and terror, but the goat who first suggested the vote rebukes them: “Be thankful you live in a democracy! At least we got to have a say in this!”
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Yamon on March 26, 2016, 01:32:18 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?

Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.

Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.

This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Tf8RN3uiM#)


now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on March 26, 2016, 02:04:37 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?

Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.

Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.

This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman

! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Tf8RN3uiM#[/url])


now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url])


(http://s23.postimg.org/mdxq7hyl5/stonecold.gif)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Yamon on March 26, 2016, 02:47:25 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?

Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.

Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.

This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman

! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Tf8RN3uiM#[/url])


now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url])


([url]http://s23.postimg.org/mdxq7hyl5/stonecold.gif[/url])

your image response isn't loading, but i'm 100% sure it's stupid and you are incapable of understanding the facts. This was not to inform you, but to embarrass you.

(https://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0nc7fj44j1rosg7go1_250.gif)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on March 26, 2016, 05:30:08 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?

Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.

Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.

This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman

! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Tf8RN3uiM#[/url])


now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url])


([url]http://s23.postimg.org/mdxq7hyl5/stonecold.gif[/url])

your image response isn't loading, but i'm 100% sure it's stupid and you are incapable of understanding the facts. This was not to inform you, but to embarrass you.

([url]https://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0nc7fj44j1rosg7go1_250.gif[/url])


I didn't read your post because I saw the words "Thomas Sowell" in it and knew you were a blithering retard.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Yamon on March 26, 2016, 05:38:45 PM

the fact that you're trying to pretend you have an opinion on Thomas Sowell. Is premo shit. that is just.... mwah mwah. <3

(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/8-31-2015/5u1u6l.gif)

come on dude. lets stop the ball right there man. No one who supports socialism has an educated opinion on thomas sowell. so we can just end that right there. Nip that right in the bud.

but furthermore, if reading facts wasn't something  you couldn't stand (hence why you are so ignorant), you'd know i only quoted thomas sowell once in the entire post.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Swift on March 26, 2016, 07:43:28 PM
Who are you voting for, Yamon?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 26, 2016, 09:16:26 PM
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty,  why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?

Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.

Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.

This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman

! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Tf8RN3uiM#[/url])


now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url])



Liberalism is cancer
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Yamon on March 26, 2016, 09:27:39 PM
Who are you voting for, Yamon?
i would vote for ted cruz but there's too many people like hassan who are going to vote in hilary and bernie.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 26, 2016, 09:38:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGIAk-EFcWQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGIAk-EFcWQ)

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Yamon on March 26, 2016, 10:01:30 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/wi9yHmX7Sztuw/giphy.gif)

my thoughts on this video:
(https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/9/24/1411574454561/03085543-87de-47ab-a4eb-58e7e39d022e-620x372.jpeg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Yamon on March 26, 2016, 10:11:02 PM

Liberalism is cancer?

you believe so because you live in a failure of a country, with no founding principles or ideologies ; with a tiny populace that doesn't necessitate advanced forms of economic control.

You're also going to get destroyed by the caliphate because you believe liberalism is cancer.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 26, 2016, 11:24:11 PM
(https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/9/24/1411574454561/03085543-87de-47ab-a4eb-58e7e39d022e-620x372.jpeg)

it's a picture of your brain
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Yamon on March 27, 2016, 08:05:42 AM
the entire world is on the verge of economic derailment because of socialists and the euro.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 27, 2016, 09:54:24 AM
interesting how that can happen with the left so marginalized it doesn't exist in any functional way.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 29, 2016, 01:55:32 PM
what is it called when a majority of the population zealously supports a system which negatively impacts them in various ways from psychologically to physically and slowly degrades and pollutes the environment around them?
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 29, 2016, 02:00:21 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/mar/16/mcdonalds-workers-treat-burns-condiments-osha-complaints (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/mar/16/mcdonalds-workers-treat-burns-condiments-osha-complaints)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on March 29, 2016, 03:33:38 PM
what is it called when a majority of the population zealously supports a system which negatively impacts them in various ways from psychologically to physically and slowly degrades and pollutes the environment around them?
lumpen
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 29, 2016, 06:45:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sSCQB8z.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 30, 2016, 11:50:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/TvqZOTO.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: Yamon on March 31, 2016, 03:43:59 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35762618 (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35762618)

the entire world is on the edge of economic collapse due to socialism and the Eur0. China's exports are down by 25%
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on March 31, 2016, 03:59:08 PM
[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35762618[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35762618[/url])

the entire world is on the edge of economic collapse due to socialism and the Eur0. China's exports are down by 25%


That's pretty damning of socialism, considering that socialism is the dominant method of global socioeconomic organization rather than capitalism.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on March 31, 2016, 03:59:49 PM
infamous socialist economic federation The European Union
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on March 31, 2016, 05:43:44 PM
i mean what the fuck, there are no socialist policies implemented anywhere in the world.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on March 31, 2016, 05:44:59 PM
what
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on March 31, 2016, 08:27:15 PM
i mean what the fuck, there are no socialist policies implemented anywhere in the world.

The EU, an economic trade union designed around the free flow of labor, commodities and capital among the bourgeoisie of its member states, is socialist.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 01, 2016, 07:31:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jFgAFJt.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 02, 2016, 10:43:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/1qXsIu4.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 02, 2016, 11:16:07 AM
lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on April 02, 2016, 09:18:16 PM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 03, 2016, 12:06:34 AM

hahhaahahahah
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on April 07, 2016, 04:43:49 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/us/former-massey-energy-ceo-don-blankenship-sentenced/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/us/former-massey-energy-ceo-don-blankenship-sentenced/index.html)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 12, 2016, 01:45:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGavZ9b50Vs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGavZ9b50Vs)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 13, 2016, 04:47:02 PM
About 40,000 Verizon wireline workers walk off the job in one of the largest US strikes in recent years

(http://i.imgur.com/PI9oRpI.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 21, 2016, 12:34:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Onvt78K.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on April 21, 2016, 01:29:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc)


comrade bernie
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on April 21, 2016, 01:38:12 PM
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc[/url])


comrade bernie


(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z394/m14brian/rock_on_zpsx31ys4m6.gif)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 06, 2016, 01:39:29 PM
shower thoughts: soviet gulags were more humane than america's present prison system
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 06, 2016, 06:48:32 PM
shower thoughts: soviet gulags were more humane than america's present prison system

Obviously.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 12, 2016, 05:28:09 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/n3S90kj.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 12, 2016, 06:33:53 PM
lol @ the implication that libertarians aren't fascists
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 12, 2016, 08:32:53 PM
also using the term cultural marxism, which is nothing but a nazi conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 17, 2016, 11:51:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47KcF1C6dxI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47KcF1C6dxI)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on May 17, 2016, 12:41:59 PM
"cultural marxism" is one of the dumbest terms ever, it's just calling social liberals "marxist" for some reason, i guess to try to paint them as more scary and dangerous
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 18, 2016, 05:19:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CixJ_RNUoAEZmYS.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 18, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ny3Yg7C.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 19, 2016, 05:37:49 PM
Quote
I'm a manager who is hiring for someone for a front-line customer-service related position. We're paying 12-13/hour (Canadian). So it's not like some amazing job.
In the week we've had our position open, I've received in the range of 200 resumes. It's heartbreaking. So many people, recent immigrants, people who had careers and have been laid off, just looking for a full time job, anywhere. I have one job I can give, so I have to pass over so many people who are just trying to make ends meet, and every time I close a resume knowing I'm not going to hire someone, it hurts. One candidate had major professional experience in his home country, and recently has only been able to find part time employment in fast food.
I can't believe we have so many people so desperate to just do anything to be able to support themselves and their family, and yet such great resistance to something that could make this an issue of the past. We have enough as a society! We just need to act! A basic income could solve so many problems! Allow the labour market to actually work as a free market, while ensuring we have a safety net for people unable to find work.
... I just don't understand the resistance ...


capitalism.txt
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 20, 2016, 10:51:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiyAv64WgAAM7MS.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiyAv1OWkAAHD4a.jpg:large)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on May 21, 2016, 12:18:47 AM
anthropomorphic cartoon missiles blowing up houses: Israeli Heroes
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: EviL~Ryu on May 22, 2016, 05:03:46 PM
anthropomorphic cartoon missiles blowing up houses: Israeli Heroes


Something new to play while on the toilet

Angry birds getting old...
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 23, 2016, 01:08:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/d3jKSu0.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 23, 2016, 09:15:23 PM
*capitalism gives downtrodeen soul on the end of his rope a reason to live* HURRR! Capitalism sux am i rite guys?  ::)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 24, 2016, 12:03:39 AM
*capitalism gives downtrodeen soul on the end of his rope a reason to live* HURRR! Capitalism sux am i rite guys?  ::)
eat a molotov you unfunny dumbshit
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 25, 2016, 06:25:53 PM
*capitalism gives downtrodeen soul on the end of his rope a reason to live* HURRR! Capitalism sux am i rite guys?  ::)
eat a molotov you unfunny dumbshit

Christ you are easier to troll than Ryu lol.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on May 26, 2016, 10:08:34 AM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 26, 2016, 06:54:12 PM

lol
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on May 26, 2016, 06:55:05 PM
If only there was some way for me to know how many eggs I have...holy shit! Thanks Quirky!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on May 31, 2016, 10:27:49 AM
liberals

(http://i.imgur.com/qs3I5Tr.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on May 31, 2016, 11:03:23 AM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 06, 2016, 03:40:16 PM
hmm just saw requiem for the american dream the noam chomsky documentary on netflix. curb stomp all wealthy people imo.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 06, 2016, 09:01:46 PM
hmm just saw requiem for the american dream the noam chomsky documentary on netflix. curb stomp all wealthy people imo.

Huh, rich people and America and imperialism are bad? TIL! Thanks Noam Chomsky! I'll never be a labor aristocrat again!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 08, 2016, 01:30:19 PM
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/wealthy-1-percenters-insist-theyre-not-racist-they-just-dont-want-to-live-near-their-servants/ (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/wealthy-1-percenters-insist-theyre-not-racist-they-just-dont-want-to-live-near-their-servants/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 09, 2016, 11:03:27 AM
Nation with five empty houses to every homeless person not sure how to solve homelessness
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 09, 2016, 11:14:29 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dXe53BM.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ua7xuAe.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 09, 2016, 07:31:19 PM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/dXe53BM.png[/url])
([url]http://i.imgur.com/Ua7xuAe.png[/url])

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 13, 2016, 10:29:17 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/fXXcSD2.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 13, 2016, 11:05:32 AM
yeah i mean what do you expect a libertarian to say.  thats what these people think, thats what it means to be a libertarian
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 13, 2016, 11:52:21 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
Libertarianism is a socialist ideal, the term was stolen from mentally retarded people of the Austrian school. Despite the liberal wiki articles, Right-libertarianism isn't a real thing. These people are a bunch of private property worshiping (which is why i call them propertarians) drooling nitwits whose beliefs have absolutely nothing in common with actual libertarianism.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 16, 2016, 05:25:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uHWpJNM.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 17, 2016, 01:27:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mATc95X.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 18, 2016, 09:56:20 AM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/mATc95X.jpg[/url])


Very wise.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 19, 2016, 10:57:33 AM
Israeli Rabbi Colonel Eyal Qarim of the Israeli Military Rabbinate has permitted to Israeli Jewish soldiers to rape Palestinian women.

The permission came as an answer for this question: “Is it allowed in our days for an Israeli occupation soldier, for example, to rape girls during a fight, or is such a thing forbidden?”

“The wars of Israel are religious wars, in which they differ from the rest of the wars the nations wage among themselves,” the Israeli Jewish rabbi said.

He said that during the wars, the Israeli soldier has to maintain his fighting ability; therefore, the prohibitions which weakens his ability must be broken even if they are related to morals.

“As in war the prohibition against risking your life is broken for the benefit of others, so are the prohibitions against immorality,” the rabbi said.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: easycompany on June 19, 2016, 01:14:02 PM
So how could the Moabites have Israel destroyed?  They could do it from within.  It would be from sexual immorality with the Moabites. What happened was exactly what God had predicted would happen to Israel if they mixed with another nation.

yeah dude wants them crazed war machines..wonder if u could have some to game with :o

Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 21, 2016, 12:27:37 PM
(https://67.media.tumblr.com/052f2c94fb082a5690b038367c2fc1b0/tumblr_nbjcny3hiV1trg6ibo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 21, 2016, 02:48:24 PM
His gripes are petty, skull weak, ice ax heavy
There's brains on the weapon already, mom's spaghetti
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 22, 2016, 06:33:12 PM
'Exhausted' French police plead with unions to postpone  fresh protests so they can recover

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/21/exhausted-french-police-plead-with-unions-to-postpone--fresh-pro/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/21/exhausted-french-police-plead-with-unions-to-postpone--fresh-pro/)

lmfao
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 29, 2016, 01:17:20 PM


wow, deGrasse advocating FULLCOMMUNISM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 29, 2016, 07:32:06 PM


wow, deGrasse advocating FULLCOMMUNISM

lol he's like a parody of himself
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 29, 2016, 07:33:17 PM
Let's get #Rationalia trending, for #logic!
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on June 29, 2016, 10:00:06 PM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on June 30, 2016, 12:14:37 PM
yea i was just coming to post the link

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/its-time-for-the-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses-trump-2016-brexit/ (http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/its-time-for-the-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses-trump-2016-brexit/)

jesus fuck
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 30, 2016, 01:47:52 PM
jeez youre both 12 and 24 hours late on that one, i posted hwere http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/post/318059/ (http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/post/318059/)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on June 30, 2016, 01:49:10 PM
lol at all these articles coming out

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/how-american-politics-went-insane/485570/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/07/how-american-politics-went-insane/485570/) - "Neurotic hatred of the political class is the country’s last universally acceptable form of bigotry."
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/its-time-for-the-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses-trump-2016-brexit/ (http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/its-time-for-the-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses-trump-2016-brexit/)
(http://i.imgur.com/seu3eFB.png)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 06, 2016, 06:23:08 PM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 15, 2016, 08:28:37 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on July 27, 2016, 09:14:49 AM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 02, 2016, 06:42:28 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/phildemuth/2013/11/25/are-you-rich-enough-the-terrible-tragedy-of-income-inequality-among-the-1/#3acc7bdd1bb1 (http://www.forbes.com/sites/phildemuth/2013/11/25/are-you-rich-enough-the-terrible-tragedy-of-income-inequality-among-the-1/#3acc7bdd1bb1)
"too many of us are counting our blessings and thinking of those in need. This is precisely backwards. There is vastly more income inequality among the top 1% than there is in the bottom 99%. Once all the facts are known, even the most crocodilian among us will be forced to shed a tear for those more fortunate."
Why worry about homelessness, child malnourishment, millions of people without healthcare coverage when there are 1%ers who " Post-tax and retirement savings. . ." have only "about $220,000 a year while they are working."
" When these worker bees hit retirement, their high-earning lifestyles will propel them off a cliff.  Post-tax, but including Social Security, they are looking at an $80,000 spend annually — perhaps one-third of what they were accustomed to during prime time.  They earn so much money that they can’t afford to retire.  Meanwhile, the privileged 99% dwelling in the lower tiers of the social beehive won’t face the same gut-wrenching drop in lifestyle after they punch out, because Social Security comprises a much larger share of their retirement income, while their taxes will be lower."



not satire
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 02, 2016, 08:00:13 PM
[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/phildemuth/2013/11/25/are-you-rich-enough-the-terrible-tragedy-of-income-inequality-among-the-1/#3acc7bdd1bb1[/url] ([url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/phildemuth/2013/11/25/are-you-rich-enough-the-terrible-tragedy-of-income-inequality-among-the-1/#3acc7bdd1bb1[/url])
"too many of us are counting our blessings and thinking of those in need. This is precisely backwards. There is vastly more income inequality among the top 1% than there is in the bottom 99%. Once all the facts are known, even the most crocodilian among us will be forced to shed a tear for those more fortunate."
Why worry about homelessness, child malnourishment, millions of people without healthcare coverage when there are 1%ers who " Post-tax and retirement savings. . ." have only "about $220,000 a year while they are working."
" When these worker bees hit retirement, their high-earning lifestyles will propel them off a cliff.  Post-tax, but including Social Security, they are looking at an $80,000 spend annually — perhaps one-third of what they were accustomed to during prime time.  They earn so much money that they can’t afford to retire.  Meanwhile, the privileged 99% dwelling in the lower tiers of the social beehive won’t face the same gut-wrenching drop in lifestyle after they punch out, because Social Security comprises a much larger share of their retirement income, while their taxes will be lower."



not satire


lol I was all ready to make fun of you for thinking it was a serious article and not a joke, Christ almighty.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 03, 2016, 10:20:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZMl3hsUBlo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZMl3hsUBlo)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 11, 2016, 01:17:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YcGQZaw.jpg)
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: fuckboi1488 on August 11, 2016, 07:11:11 PM
Steve Hoxha
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 16, 2016, 05:02:23 PM
"The question this book raises is what his value is for us today. The answer is not hard to find: Marx remains an outstanding model of how to stand outside capitalism and subject it to critique on the basis of something larger — the ability of a reigning economic system to serve human needs. Communism may have failed. But it can scarcely be said that contemporary capitalism — with its intensifying tendency to inequality, its propensity to crisis, its hollowing-out of political institutions and its casualis­ation of the labour force — has succeeded. So long as we persist in our tendency to hive off the study of economics from politics, philosophy and journalism, Marx will remain the outstanding example of how to overcome the fragmentation of modern social thought and think about the world as a whole for the sake of its betterment. And this book will be an admirable guide to how he did it." Financial Times

Even bourgies know Marx was right.
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 18, 2016, 09:26:21 AM
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on August 31, 2016, 09:23:59 PM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 08, 2016, 05:27:30 PM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 08, 2016, 05:34:12 PM
i hate tim cook so mucgh lol.  liberal asshole hosting hillary clinton fundraisers while refusing to pay taxes https://theintercept.com/2016/08/16/ceo-tim-cook-decides-apple-doesnt-have-to-pay-corporate-tax-rate-because-its-unfair/
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 12, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2016, 07:11:19 AM
photoshopped fuck life
Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 15, 2016, 10:01:22 AM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 17, 2016, 10:13:02 AM
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Title: Re: anti-capitalism thread
Post by: marx was right on September 18, 2016, 09:50:53 PM