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Warcraft II => Tournaments & Leagues => Topic started by: ~ToRa~ on October 26, 2016, 01:34:55 PM
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Hi guys,
Next Saturday November 5th at 4pm eastern we will be hosting a tier 3 tournament in the tournament channel.
The map will be Garden of war on High/Ef settings
Prize payouts will be $40 for 1st and $20 for 2nd.(As always players must warvid/stream and have paypal to collect their cash prizes)
Players who are excluded from this tournament are the following.
00kyle
u8t3io3p
braviet
Shotgun
Startale
Alf-Attack
BHC-Jesk
Medivh
Viruz
00Joe
00Logan
Player
Knitterhemd
Sepi
tyrus
Yamon
Greenagenda
Mystical
Spb
00steve
ogremage
-Koorb-
Dugs[anz]
Ltfan
Tabac[Man]
Teaboy
^PaperBoy~SoL^
Ywfn
Lone
Rat
Dong3er
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I will also highly recommend all players to please warvid their matches. Once The tournament is over you may submit your warvids for review and commentary. Doing so will help lower tier players to realize the mistakes they are making and improve upon their existing game.
Good luck to all players who plan to participate.
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Hi,
I would love to participate on this one!
I do not know if real life will allow it but as it is in 2 weeks from now I will try to arrange it!
Also I could do commentaries of the games, if not all at least some of them!
Cheers
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too bad im rusty, but i think i will participate anyway. hope me no forget
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too bad im rusty, but i think i will participate anyway. hope me no forget
Ill msg u the day before.
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Cool, hope it will be a alot of fun :))
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i am sure that claw can win vs few players from the list he is not tier 3 player
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Allstar, doritoe, and unf0 should be allowed in it imo
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Put me down in this tournament too thx :)
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i am sure that claw can win vs few players from the list he is not tier 3 player
I played less gow games during last 2 years than the times you had sex. Uhh.... maybe xDDD
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i am sure that claw can win vs few players from the list he is not tier 3 player
I played less gow games during last 2 years than the times you had sex. Uhh.... maybe xDDD
Its not about map, but skill
Dobrze wiesz ze ich zmiazdzysz i nie udawaj mimo ze gowa nie grasz to i tak pokonasz kilku graczy cebulo, zamow se bombki
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Allstar, doritoe, and unf0 should be allowed in it imo
We'll see,
I wanna see how many people play in this tournament. Also the focus is to try and get a lower tier player into the seimi finals.
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I will play
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When is tier 12 tourny? Need to start warming up for that...
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When is tier 12 tourny? Need to start warming up for that...
Play in this one there will be someone of your claiber playing in this one.
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When is tier 12 tourny? Need to start warming up for that...
you could probably play in the tier 2 tourny if you wanted. you're at unf0's skill, no?... im not sure exactly which tier i've been placed in but i can hang with/beat 1/2 of the people excluded from this tier 3 tournament. unless claw gets in the tier 3 tournament, pretty sure it's mine for the taking.
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Unforgiven, Dorito, and Allstar aren't as good as the rest of that list though. Like it's not a perfect list. Claw and TK are better than Unfo but both can compete in this one.
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can anyone participate in this tournament? what exactly qualifies someone as t3?
also offtopic but i'd love to see a doubles tourney, i think it adds a whole new dimension to the gameplay ^-^
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anyone not on the list of exempt players
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Well we have 2 solutions either add tk and claw to the list. Or remove said players from the list. Ill tell you im leaning toward the former.
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Youngsta and Jordan have a good chance.
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Well we have 2 solutions either add tk and claw to the list. Or remove said players from the list. Ill tell you im leaning toward the former.
the latter is a better option. better to expand the pool than keep beatable players out
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then if claw wins too easily then you take him out from the next one
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I will enter and win without dropping a single game.
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donger is obviously tier 2
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anyone not on the list of exempt players
=)
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anyone not on the list of exempt players
=)
Ill add u to it when I get home.
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i havent seen any of you idiots mention my name when you were creating your stupid-ass gow tier lists. Now suddendly you bark
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Are there any rules on smurfs? Like maybe a minimum # of games played? I don't remember the last time there were so many active smurfs.
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i havent seen any of you idiots mention my name when you were creating your stupid-ass gow tier lists. Now suddendly you bark
Your a customs player which why your name was never brought up. However it seems you have earned yourself quite the reputation here in the community. Everyone seem to think you will make it to the finals without much difficulty. Realize this tournament is for lower tier players.
With that being said you will be allowed to play as will TK, Unfogiven, doritofu, and Allstar.
Are there any rules on smurfs? Like maybe a minimum # of games played? I don't remember the last time there were so many active smurfs.
Smurfs generally aren't allowed to play.
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You will be allowed to play as will TK, Unfogiven, doritofu, and Allstar.
Yay
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^^ You going to play to Blid.
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Always hard to say. Id have to be free that weekend and then remember it was happening at 4pm (if I remember at 2pm I still might not be thinking of it by 4pm) and then Id have to want to go play.
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Oh shit sign me up... I can't pass up a free $40!
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Oh shit sign me up... I can't pass up a free $40!
egg or poiuyt are my sleeper picks.
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Allstar was a self-proclaimed "best gow player" for a long time until he was caught hacking. Is he now a noob because he has to use AH?
There is a huge skill gap between someone like LiSaK and tk. They could play 100 games and tk only gets foots, towers and mages as hummy and still go 100-0 unless his internet turns off.
I understand there is a wide range in skill and limiting it to 3 tiers makes it hard to omit people, but why would someone like tolist play when he will get tower gay'd in 2 minutes by a higher skill strat and have zero knowledge on how to counter it. Maybe you could use it as a learning experience, but you're already throwing $40 at this. Make it fair? I would send you money just to make another tier list for players like tk[as] and claw who have much more skill than you or I tora.
This is my little bitch fit! The system will never be perfect but there are obvious gaps. CLAW just wants to be on tier 3 so he can buy pizza for the week.
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because lisak and tolist are not meant to win any kind of tournament on a map that is, or even resembles gow
CLAW just wants to be on tier 3 so he can buy pizza for the week.
I am tier 3 because you lummoxi cant get better than someone who doesnt even play the map. The only gap you should be concerned about is the one im gona give to your mom tonight
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Lets see how you both do next weekend.
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Allstar was a self-proclaimed "best gow player" for a long time until he was caught hacking. Is he now a noob because he has to use AH?
There is a huge skill gap between someone like LiSaK and tk. They could play 100 games and tk only gets foots, towers and mages as hummy and still go 100-0 unless his internet turns off.
I understand there is a wide range in skill and limiting it to 3 tiers makes it hard to omit people, but why would someone like tolist play when he will get tower gay'd in 2 minutes by a higher skill strat and have zero knowledge on how to counter it. Maybe you could use it as a learning experience, but you're already throwing $40 at this. Make it fair? I would send you money just to make another tier list for players like tk[as] and claw who have much more skill than you or I tora.
This is my little bitch fit! The system will never be perfect but there are obvious gaps. CLAW just wants to be on tier 3 so he can buy pizza for the week.
One tournament win and you are bumped up to "Tier of Champions" would certainly help weed out the pros, and make the Tier Of Champions a bigger bracket.
I say let those guys get their 1 tournament win, because once they get bumped up to the next tier it will take a lot of practice for them to get another one.
Idk yet if I will be available for this.
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Unfortunately, the second best player will have to win his weekend... Just got my hands on some UK/Georgia tickets, so I won't be able to play :(
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Booooo
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Im betting that tk wins if he plays and that youngsta won't play because it might be his weekend with the kids.
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ooo it's tomorrow, fun
everybody remember to stream
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Tournament begins today guys.
Everyone that wants to play come to the tournament channel at 4pm Eastern.
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ooo it's tomorrow, fun
everybody remember to stream
What if it's more convenient for a watcher such as xurnt or tora to stream. That way all the replays go to one place and no one needs to click through all the player's accounts.
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That would be nice if they do. Can also go to http://tv.war2.ru/reruns (http://tv.war2.ru/reruns) for easy replay viewing on multiple accounts.
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Count me in
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Count me in
O dang, the number one seed is ready to dominate.
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not if claw is in it and has been playing actively
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we going to start soon I suggest u get some warm up games in
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Haven't played in a grip of a time but I may just practice this week if I have time to get pwned by some old buds from the day. glhf
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Oh I see it starts in 15 minutes, ha gg no re
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Van plays without AH, I realize it after the game, Tora does nothing. Great tournament dipshit.
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Van plays without AH, I realize it after the game, Tora does nothing. Great tournament dipshit.
Did u request him to install it before ur match?
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Van plays without AH, I realize it after the game, Tora does nothing. Great tournament dipshit.
Did u request him to install it before ur match?
Why does he need to "request it"? Shouldn't it be already installed by everyone...
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no i didnt request that he doesnt maphack either, nor did i request that viruz does not play on his name. i also didnt request that people dont give him tips. wanna know why? because its already against the rules, i dont need to request it. if i find out after the game viruz played on his name, you cant say "You shoulda requested he didnt."
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Van plays without AH, I realize it after the game, Tora does nothing. Great tournament dipshit.
Did u request him to install it before ur match?
Why does he need to "request it"? Shouldn't it be already installed by everyone...
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All players are responsible for ensuring whether or not there opponents are playing fairly. SS, Warvid, and AH are all things that opponents must use if there opponent requested it. If a player refuses to comply they are subject to disqualification.
Sentinal never said anything about it until he lost.
Claw requested it and van Dl'ed it.
@Sentinal, It is van playing not viruz fyi. If u do decide to play in another tournament request AH, warvid, SS whatever u want before ur match. Don't cry and make drama after u lose.
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god youre stupid.
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why would someone need to specifically request their opponent use AH in a money tournament? who wouldnt request that? why leave it something a person can get away with on a technicality? makes no sense at all.
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no i didnt request that he doesnt maphack either, nor did i request that viruz does not play on his name. i also didnt request that people dont give him tips. wanna know why? because its already against the rules, i dont need to request it. if i find out after the game viruz played on his name, you cant say "You shoulda requested he didnt."
Running the AH is not a server rule right now. The whole thing is still in the beginning stages I believe until they get something stable, because of the false positives that happened with Smeagol,Swift and others. Heck I know Seuss who is a comp stomp player was having "unknown" appear.. so I really doubt he was hacking. Yes it is nice to have AH available still but not 100% correct yet.
Don't think any tournament rules were broken.
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god youre stupid.
Sorry Tora, I agree with him here. [emoji53]
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no i didnt request that he doesnt maphack either, nor did i request that viruz does not play on his name. i also didnt request that people dont give him tips. wanna know why? because its already against the rules, i dont need to request it. if i find out after the game viruz played on his name, you cant say "You shoulda requested he didnt."
Running the AH is not a server rule right now. The whole thing is still in the beginning stages I believe until they get something stable, because of the false positives that happened with Smeagol,Swift and others. Heck I know Seuss who is a comp stomp player was having "unknown" appear.. so I really doubt he was hacking. Yes it is nice to have AH available still but not 100% correct yet.
Don't think any tournament rules were broken.
lol pathetic.
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why would someone need to specifically request their opponent use AH in a money tournament? who wouldnt request that? why leave it something a person can get away with on a technicality? makes no sense at all.
What I am trying to make sense of....
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I have a question why are you talking about it now? Why didnt you say anything before ur match?
A lot of people play without it, that doesnt mean they hack.
Realize im a 1 man operation its hard enough making brackets and getting people to play. Its yours and all the other players responsibilitys to ensure ur opponent plays fairly. If there is a dispute im more than willing to help.
However saying ur opponent ahould be dq'ed after losing and making a big deal about AH isn't the way to go about this.
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I didnt notice it before the match? I didnt even think about it? The only reason claw requested it is because I pointed it out to him.
Whatever. Really dumb rule but I guess myself and other people will know now going forward to specifically request people use the program 95% of people use to help cut down cheating when theyre playing in a tournament.
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Of course if a player requests AH or warvid or whatever they have to comply.
Sorry if you feel like u got stiffed.
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Realize im a 1 man operation its hard enough making brackets and getting people to play. Its yours and all the other players responsibilitys to ensure ur opponent plays fairly. If there is a dispute im more than willing to help.
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Then get ask for some help you jerk off, don't fuck off tournament quality because you can't meet the expectations.
Your basically saying it's ok for people to play in a tournament without a AH, which is not perfect but still better than nothing. Funny how your trying to justify people playing without AH especially in a tournament and getting angry at a player for trying to point out of the obvious [emoji23]
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Log on next tournament ryu and give me a hand ill get u op status.
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Log on next tournament ryuand give me a hand ill get u op status.
I don't give a fuck about being op status, it's not my job. This server has plenty of useless Admins that should be doing that support role. Instead they are too busy on here bitching about people's affairs and trying to dictate what people say and do by assigning useless bans and warnings. It's sad that they make you go through this shit show alone.
Let me ask you something...Where are they?
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Everything else aside this was a very good turnout. We apologize to all players who wanted to play but were unable to due to limited seating.
http://war2ru.challonge.com/tier3gow (http://war2ru.challonge.com/tier3gow)
Poiuty did beat maciek in the semis however he was unwilling to play in the finals due to time constraints.
Winner is Claw.
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Claw really is invincible
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Claw really is invincible
There is a cloud over claws win just because he didn't face Poiuty. But yes claw did prove he is a good player despite never playing gow lol.
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Tournament had a good turnout, i think we had 2 or 3 people extra. gg's
I have to agree with tora here, letting you guys RM is like giving you a second chance - i dont think it would be a problem for you if you won... tora's rules make sense and theres no "second chance" jockers this way. If some1 cheats, he wouldnt get the money anyway as warvid for the finals is mandatory.
SERVER rules, on the other hand - with AH not being mandatory - i personally think its stupid, it should be enforced. it was supposed to be a temporary solution for beta testing and fixing the bug. more people using it = easier time catching bugs. im not saying auto-banning people labeled as haxors, it would be too much if AH status is still buggy, but i dont see why its not required to log in yet
Btw what was with van saying he did not play on his acc vs azazel and me? is it trolling?
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There is a cloud over claws win just because he didn't face Poiuty.
personally i dont mind, i dont have anything to prove to BNE community. Vs poiuyt i'd possibly be an underdog, been a while since ive seen him play and hes playing often from what i see
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Great turnount & games! Here's what's recorded that I know of:
Me vs tk: https://www.twitch.tv/mousetopher/v/99256587 (https://www.twitch.tv/mousetopher/v/99256587)
XuRnT vs Zeke: https://www.twitch.tv/war2combat/v/99238085?t=01h12m51s (https://www.twitch.tv/war2combat/v/99238085?t=01h12m51s)
tk vs Poiuyt: https://www.twitch.tv/terror_kahn/v/99259069?t=38m07s (https://www.twitch.tv/terror_kahn/v/99259069?t=38m07s)
Claw vs van: https://www.twitch.tv/mousetopher/v/99270686 (https://www.twitch.tv/mousetopher/v/99270686)
Claw vs Stugotz: https://www.twitch.tv/mousetopher/v/99282645 (https://www.twitch.tv/mousetopher/v/99282645)
Claw vs Maciek: https://www.twitch.tv/mousetopher/v/99291392 (https://www.twitch.tv/mousetopher/v/99291392)
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Van sore he lost so he blaming his lost on the fact he apparently "didn't play"
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That time where they said Smeagol showed HACK! on AH was a "false positive" :o
He used to hack on east.
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I predicted Claw would win! Gj Claw. Would've liked to see you play Poiuyt though as that could've been good games, too bad he had to go.
Is Claw still tier 3 or is he promoted?
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I predicted Claw would win! Gj Claw. Would've liked to see you play Poiuyt though as that could've been good games, too bad he had to go.
Is Claw still tier 3 or is he promoted?
We will leave claw where he is for now just because he didnt get to play poiuyt. Lotta good competition u should play next time to blid
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i was struggling with maciek...
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Just for the record, its not like I knew van was not using AH and was keeping that fact in my back pocket to sneak a rematch. And I would have been fine with him simply being disqualified and having claw move forward automatically. Just wanted repercussions. But now I know to actually look and see if someone is using AH ahead of time. I just thought it was a rule already and him breaking that would void his win. It should be imo.
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Also its not like it was a case of someone like swaz trying to get a win vs some nice good player like Lux or something on a technicality. I think Im pretty easily better than van, and van is a general douchebag anyway, so fuck him.
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I think Im pretty easily better than van, and van is a general douchebag anyway, so fuck him.
I can only agree with you on the second part.
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Just for the record, its not like I knew van was not using AH and was keeping that fact in my back pocket to sneak a rematch. And I would have been fine with him simply being disqualified and having claw move forward automatically. Just wanted repercussions. But now I know to actually look and see if someone is using AH ahead of time. I just thought it was a rule already and him breaking that would void his win. It should be imo.
Tora does more (for what the eye can see) than most other admins. But as a leader, one should never be afraid to ask for help. Most of us are eager to help. Someone like me who was twiddling his thumbs because there was only 16 slots in the tournament could have done the bracket for him, which would give him more time to follow up on rule enforcement. Having AH has always been a rule, I'm sure we can find a dozen threads in the past that states so. In GoW tournaments no one is allowed to play without AH. Tournaments like Pball no one really cares so they don't check.
Unfortunately none of us caught it in time. I wish the world was fair to you. :( Next time! Most of the players without AH do some very cheesy shit like if they are 2 and you are 6, they fake scout 12 then roll straight up to 6 without doing 11/9 or 4/5. It's pretty obvious but no one asks for SS or anything. Even with the AH glitches (which I don't think there are any/many REAL glitches), it should still be something we use as a backbone for the tournament.
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damn mouse, you did not catch the fluke moment in me vs stegotz on stream ;// and i did not warvid that. that could make a funny gif
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(http://i.imgur.com/OqXJZmT.png)
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How'd you beat him to make him rage that hard claw? All it took me was 1 Catapult, and 1 death knight for weeks of abuse, no other units, no grunts, ogres. Just a cat for def, and 1 death knight at 2 to win the game lol
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How'd you beat him to make him rage that hard claw? All it took me was 1 Catapult, and 1 death knight for weeks of abuse, no other units, no grunts, ogres. Just a cat for def, and 1 death knight at 2 to win the game lol
he hates my guts since i found out he's into cuckold (he lets other men fuck his wife)
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Lmao
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damn mouse, you did not catch the fluke moment in me vs stegotz on stream ;// and i did not warvid that. that could make a funny gif
I know!! What a rip. Still don't fully understand what happened there.
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xurnt vs. zeke is on my twitch, and they will be on my youtube eventually as well.
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xurnt vs. zeke is on my twitch, and they will be on my youtube eventually as well.
I really thought u would get past zeke, guess I underestimated him.
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I think only my lategame understanding was on point. huge mistakes were made, especially in the games i lost. im not sure if its a good thing, i never stick to gow, even if i reach a decent skill level (by decent i mean sepi/alf/tyrus level), ive never been better than that
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van has serious issues.
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xurnt vs. zeke is on my twitch, and they will be on my youtube eventually as well.
I really thought u would get past zeke, guess I underestimated him.
Wtf Tora, I have been watching atleast 7k games, dont you think I have learned something? lol :)
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xurnt vs. zeke is on my twitch, and they will be on my youtube eventually as well.
I really thought u would get past zeke, guess I underestimated him.
Wtf Tora, I have been watching atleast 7k games, dont you think I have learned something? lol :)
What did you learn? How to build an empire?
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xurnt vs. zeke is on my twitch, and they will be on my youtube eventually as well.
I really thought u would get past zeke, guess I underestimated him.
Wtf Tora, I have been watching atleast 7k games, dont you think I have learned something? lol :)
Guess I haven't watched you enough ;)
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Hi all,
It is a pity I didn't make it this time :-(
It seems people had a lot of fun!
Congrats to the victor!
ps: What is the usual in game nickname for Claw?
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We missed you Igog. :< Lately he uses DONALD_TRUMP, but that may change after tomorrow...
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of course i will need to change the name. look what happened in austrian presidential elections, look what happened to brexit.
I think anyone voting for clinton at this point is literally retarded, regardless of whos her counter-candidate. I'd even vote for ryu