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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: xXxSmeagolxXx on November 21, 2015, 02:01:27 AM
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These are the winners of the last years PBall tournaments also how many finals they made.
Player | Wins | Finals | Record |
xXxSmeagolxXx 14 15 14-8
Xcal 3 5 -
QUICK{hR} 1 4 -
Flea 1 3 -
UK_Restless 1 2
Jessu001 1 2
8)Mikulz(8 1 1 1-2
$Killa$Lancelot 1 1
Crash3r 1 1
Level 1: xXxSmeagolxXx, QUICK{hR}, Xcal, Cs-Kirby, Murd0ck, Masta{hR}, Pirate, 8)Mikulz(8, Proof-Dealer, Adam-w
Level 2: Flea, $Killa$Lancelot, td]Medivh, Real{hR}, Hiroller{hR}, BrightXero, TDK-Seedy, Element_Boardz, UK_Restless
Level 3: Evil~Manowar(blackballed), x)Dw(x-Zeus, Dream{hR}, 13thMoldWarrior
Level 4: Newbs
There are over the years and active right now more PBallers but this is to get an idea.
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This is inaccurate and a redundancy of my post.] Paintball goes beyond just 45 man / 80 man style maps. There are:
Skeleton Sacrifice
All of your custom variation maps like 11 vs 200
2hero 1rax
1a-8a
60 men
100 men
Pball builds (EG_Alex, B.o.B, etc)
DK
And a lot more that I cannot currently think of.
Now if I played someone like xcal in 8a, I'd make them look like Shanona. So you can't just arbitrarily put someone in a high tier because they're good at 1-2 maps or even a few of these maps. I'd spank people like xCal in 75% of of maps, then go like 7-3 in the other 25%. I think what I wrote is very accurate.
Plus, your 4 tier system does not work because you lump players like shanona and someone like Jessu in the same sentence, when there is a clear difference in War 2 IQ and skill.
Moreover, this doesn't account for people that, like me, are not around to vie for trophies. I mean if it's only Smeagol, xCaL and QUICK that are on that are somewhat competitive, sure you're going to win every once in awhile. I mean if you want to compare the CURRENT pball community then I'd say MAYBE xcaL is a tier 1, but that's pushing it and you know it. Don't let friendship and familiarity become a bias understanding of a player's skill level. You know that if he was playing 5 years ago, and there were more me's, and you's and PiRaTe's, he'd be written off as an 'easy' stat win.
And, I know these aren't paintball, but they ARE customs... if you throw in stuff like spaceknights, free grunts, Archers Only, Friends, lightning archers and the likes, then the tier system is very out of wack.
Moreover, I've probably played 100 games with Proof, and you can ask him, I personally have never lost to him... Why even have him in the high tier conversation?
So, can admin delete this?
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You're totally wrong. There's nothing inaccurate about this at all. This map the tournaments play for the standings are 60 Man and 45 Man and they are totally correct. Also Xcal is Fallen_Xcalibur from East 2002-2006 and QUICK{hR} is x[dw]x-Chogall from East both legends. I never lumped Jessu or Shanona together in fact I never mentioned Shanona.The tier system I don't know what you're rambling about it's similar to yours but more correct. Any of these PBalls would compete in any PBall but the tournament standings are 60 Man 45 Man. I am like 15-5 vs you Masta in the last 2 weeks and 30-10 vs you in the last year. I'm not sure why what you are TRYING to explain takes like half a page. Anyway this is correct in all ways, the standings are right and the tier is far more accurate than yours.
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I need to see warvids for this 15-5 vs me. Just in the last 2 days I'm 4-1 vs you. And I'd say reverse that before recently. So, we're about .500. Which begs to tell you, I'm getting back into gaming shape.
Sigh, you're too emotional.
This needs to be deleted. So, you can then argue that "Proof-Dealer is the best of all time"? Or UK_Restless is one of the best of all times?
Man, blid and all these guys are right. Customs is for chumps. You play more customs nowadays than all of us and you still don't get it. Oh well.
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Masta are you good at GOW? you seem to know all the players etc.
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Check the real Pball Tier thread and where I put myself is an accurate indication. I know of all the players, most of them know of me. About 2 years ago I was actively a Human Watcher in Equ/spbru/KGBs games. I haven't really played in some time. I redownloaded the game 6 days ago and continue to re-fall in love with this whore of a game.
I am roughly a tier 5-6 player. Watch GreenGoblin play, and he sucks, but that's about how good I am.
Edit: And that's because I don't play GoW. lol And if I did, my "natural gaming talent" would probably put me at max a high tier 3 player after a determined amount of practice time.
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GreenGoblin is solid isn't he? THat's cool, i'll see you around.
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i can ally goblin vs someone like spb/van probably. he's not horrible.
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Yah he used to be a tier 2-3 customs player and now he's probably a tier 5 pud player after 1-2 years of practice. When I said he "sucks" I meant it in comparison to, if he 1v1'd you tk[as] you'd go 10-0 right? If I 1v1'd him in Gow I'd probably go 3-7 or 4-6.
Smeagol's understanding of tiers is limited and he doesn't get it. Just because someone has been around forever doesn't mean they're thrown into the tier 1 conversation. That's embarrassing, and it shows that customs just don't require all that much skill. There should be clear differentiation between me and xcaL. The fact that you can't see it either means your thick and I'm talking to the wrong person (smeagol) or that because the skill level cap is so low we're all tier 1 pball legends. Sad sad sad.
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yeah id probably get 10-0 .. assuming i didnt make any just extremely dumb mistakes... which is always possible :)
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but they wouldnt be a simple 10-0. i'd have to be trying
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That's my boy Greeny repping us custom players. <3 He was my pard back in East in like 2004 for the map AO.
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as far as i know the best custom player who turned gow/ef and actually turned out to be pro status is GreenPlastic aka 00joe
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as far as i know the best custom player who turned gow/ef and actually turned out to be pro status is GreenPlastic aka 00joe
I wasn't aware GP was a customs player. I know he is solid at AO, but i didn't know that. Thanks for the info. :)
GP has probably been off customs for a decade or more then I guess.
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not sure how long he's been off customs... but many seem to believe he was one of the best/fastest custom players when he played
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Anyway like I said mine is the most accurate. I don't really care what Masta's is when he just came back and all lol. Masta sent me like 50 fb messages before and after my post yesterday and started shit so I unfriended him. As I've already told people I don't need the drama. What about my tiers "insulted" ? Who knows. I got thug love for my PBall posse :) .
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do you not realize you're saying "you dont need the drama" while simultaneously trying to start drama.
you have your tiers.
masta has his.
tiers are extremely relative to the player making them up. different experience with different players. different play styles... the fact is that neither of yours are "right". They're just what you perceive to be right based on your own individual experiences.
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If I was "trying to start drama" I would have responded much more in detail 24 hours ago wen he called me a faggot and spammed with me with messages. There's starting drama and having some guy like Masta flipping out on me. I barely responded yesterday because the tiers and shit don't mean shit to me. Masta can freak out all he wants.
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well you made it a point to make a post that basically put masta on blast the entire time while at the same time saying you dont need the drama.
seems extremely counterproductive to me
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It probably is TK but I didn't expect masta to flip out like this. We are actually supposed to be friends on wc2 I mean I've known him since like 2004. I'm done responding to this post I just felt I wanted to respond once more. Whatever his tier isn't that bad I even said it seems pretty decent, but mine is based on tourny standings and watching all the people play, others agree with mine too. Anyway that's it, I'm off this forum for a bit today as well gotta do some shit.
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Lmao I also just noticed Masta is spamming my karma negatively. Even when me and you got in arguments badly with some personal shit thrown in we didn't thumb down each other. Whatever I don't care refer back to this post ^, not sure what the point of thumbs downing me is though. Lol I gotta go for a while now though, later TK.
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i didnt thumbs down
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i didnt thumbs down
I know it almost has to be Masta. I mean in all reality that's his prerogative I'm just saying why, I've had far worse beefs on here and no thumbs down. Or I guess it could be some new Smeagol hating phantom who decided to thumbs down all my posts to Masta ;). Lmao anyway it is what it is.
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Doesn't titan_mage also play pball?
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Why were my comments deleted? This is ridiculous.
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Nobody's comments were deleted
If you were looking for your thread, it is here: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1725.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1725.0.html)
And moved to the flame war forum for reasons very obvious if you read the latest
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Yep! Thanks. Probably good it was moved off of General. Smeagol is getting out of hand. Thanks blid.
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Yep! Thanks. Probably good it was moved off of General. Smeagol is getting out of hand. Thanks blid.
It's funny how Masta wasn't even involved in me and Blid's conversation and he's acting like he was. LOL!
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Nobody's comments were deleted
If you were looking for your thread, it is here: [url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1725.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1725.0.html[/url])
And moved to the flame war forum for reasons very obvious if you read the latest
Bitchin!
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Except smeagol... It was my conversation because it was my thread. Your wit astounds me profoundly, and not the way you probably think. Your ego has created a barrier thicker than my grandma's waistline.
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Except smeagol... It was my conversation because it was my thread. Your wit astounds me profoundly, and not the way you probably think. Your ego has created a barrier thicker than my grandma's waistline.
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Must be a biggg woman! [emoji54]
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Except smeagol... It was my conversation because it was my thread. Your wit astounds me profoundly, and not the way you probably think. Your ego has created a barrier thicker than my grandma's waistline.
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Lol this guy shows more and more how stupid he is all the time. Hahaha dude's a joke.
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Except smeagol... It was my conversation because it was my thread. Your wit astounds me profoundly, and not the way you probably think. Your ego has created a barrier thicker than my grandma's waistline.
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Lol this guy shows more and more how stupid he is all the time. Hahaha dude's a joke.
Looks like the truth burned [emoji23]
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I was the best at 60 men me and my twin brother
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Pball in general not just 60 men ... surprised you guys still play this after all these years
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smeagol, you are little piece of shit who cry about spam every single time you are on beef mode.
You have no idea about what is getting spam.
Ask koorb and stop cry little custom player newb.
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smeagol, you are little piece of shit who cry about spam every single time you are on beef mode.
You have no idea about what is getting spam.
Ask koorb and stop cry little custom player newb.
Says the guy who also spams people when in "beef mode" and impersonates admins to spam me. Then denys it until IL confirms it's you. LOL
Also, 4 month thread, guy hasnt posted on forums in ages, and you're attacking him. Just who's the one crying now?
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This game is old .. I want to reconnect with my old pallets that I use to own !
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Pballers *
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omg another pball thread. And this one has "tiers"
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/5fa8808b917cf8d8ae7936db0b19bebf/tumblr_inline_nvyaok95Ej1r8pzuj_500.jpg)