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Title: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tk[as] on March 14, 2015, 11:10:47 AM
they've turned to shit really fast

im going back to war2.warcraft.org/forum

see u guys there
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 11:22:13 AM
[emoji122]

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Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: I hate naggers on March 14, 2015, 11:25:31 AM
say hi to 997 from me

goodbye buddy
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tk[as] on March 14, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
you can say hi to him urself.. it wont be long before everyone else realizes this place sucks and you/mouse/il will be the only people here

i suppose you could stay and talk amongst yourselves, but i have a feeling you will find your way back to those forums eventually.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 11:33:19 AM
Wouldnt blame iL, just the rodent with the anger and power issues...i guess Animal Farm was right!

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Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 11:34:32 AM
Its hard to go back after using an updated forum. Its like using a new computer for a few months then having to go back and use one from 2000.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 11:35:27 AM
Wouldnt blame iL, just the rodent with the anger and power issues...i guess Animal Farm was right!

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lol, and this rodent selectively enforces the rules.

I don't think anyone has a problem with iL
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: mousEtopher on March 14, 2015, 11:45:36 AM
It's easy to blame other people for your own shortcomings, isn't it? I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the rules don't prohibit flaming. (It's what you guys VOTED ON ffs.) And that's 90% of what you report, Ganz. I really don't know what you expect me to do (or blid, because afaik he ignores your bogus reports too).
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 11:48:19 AM
It's easy to blame other people for your own shortcomings, isn't it? I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the rules don't prohibit flaming. (It's what you guys VOTED ON ffs.) And that's 90% of what you report, Ganz. I really don't know what you expect me to do (or blid, because afaik he ignores your bogus reports too).
No it is not easy to blame others.....but its to the point where it is necessary now. Go back to admin school because you suck at keeping good relations with the community members. Its a sad day when a former admin renounces his support, just pathethic like your warning/"reform" system.

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Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: I hate naggers on March 14, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
Sometimes i can't tell the difference between flaming and racism :(
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tk[as] on March 14, 2015, 11:54:30 AM
the only forums that are heavily moderated that actually work are forums that are not active. they are the technical support type forums. the seasonal forums.

every other successful forum that is active year-round are the ones that have basically zero moderation.


people might say they want moderation, but what they really mean is they want OTHERS to be moderated. they dont want to be moderated themselves.

... wont take long for everyone to realize they'd rather go back to old shitty forums with no updates than get their threads relocated/threads split/get muted/get banned here.

Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
It's easy to blame other people for your own shortcomings, isn't it? I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the rules don't prohibit flaming. (It's what you guys VOTED ON ffs.) And that's 90% of what you report, Ganz. I really don't know what you expect me to do (or blid, because afaik he ignores your bogus reports too).


Your rules are retarded did you ever think about that? How can I get warned 10% the second after I make 1 POST with a bunch of quotes in it, yet retards are allowed to spam unabetted with personal attacks over and over again without any action?
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 12:09:10 PM
Probably the only place where you can get 50% mute from 7 posts in 48 hours. Hahaha

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Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 12:22:01 PM
It's easy to blame other people for your own shortcomings, isn't it? I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the rules don't prohibit flaming. (It's what you guys VOTED ON ffs.) And that's 90% of what you report, Ganz. I really don't know what you expect me to do (or blid, because afaik he ignores your bogus reports too).

fuck you dumb bitch


(you can't do anything)
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 12:22:32 PM
mousetopher sucks lots of dick and takes it in the ass
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 12:23:40 PM
flaming doesn't get penalized lol, but making 1 post with quotes does? lol
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: mousEtopher on March 14, 2015, 12:24:00 PM
It's easy to blame other people for your own shortcomings, isn't it? I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the rules don't prohibit flaming. (It's what you guys VOTED ON ffs.) And that's 90% of what you report, Ganz. I really don't know what you expect me to do (or blid, because afaik he ignores your bogus reports too).

Your rules are retarded did you ever think about that? How can I get warned 10% the second after I make 1 POST with a bunch of quotes in it, yet retards are allowed to spam unabetted with personal attacks over and over again without any action?

They aren't "my" rules, I just pointed that out. That post WAS legitimately spam, and I'm not even the one that warned you for it. Ryu did get multiple warnings for spamming personal attacks all over the forum. If he's still doing it, then keep reporting him and he'll keep getting warned. If a post contains on-topic content + a flame, then there's not really anything I can do about that. You guys live to insult one another, it's pointless & impossible to moderate every single instance.

It's easy to blame other people for your own shortcomings, isn't it? I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the rules don't prohibit flaming. (It's what you guys VOTED ON ffs.) And that's 90% of what you report, Ganz. I really don't know what you expect me to do (or blid, because afaik he ignores your bogus reports too).

fuck you dumb bitch


(you can't do anything)


True.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 12:27:06 PM
It's easy to blame other people for your own shortcomings, isn't it? I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the rules don't prohibit flaming. (It's what you guys VOTED ON ffs.) And that's 90% of what you report, Ganz. I really don't know what you expect me to do (or blid, because afaik he ignores your bogus reports too).

Your rules are retarded did you ever think about that? How can I get warned 10% the second after I make 1 POST with a bunch of quotes in it, yet retards are allowed to spam unabetted with personal attacks over and over again without any action?

They aren't "my" rules, I just pointed that out. That post WAS legitimately spam, and I'm not even the one that warned you for it. Ryu did get multiple warnings for spamming personal attacks all over the forum. If he's still doing it, then keep reporting him and he'll keep getting warned. If a post contains on-topic content + a flame, then there's not really anything I can do about that. You guys live to insult one another, it's pointless & impossible to moderate every single instance.

It's easy to blame other people for your own shortcomings, isn't it? I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the rules don't prohibit flaming. (It's what you guys VOTED ON ffs.) And that's 90% of what you report, Ganz. I really don't know what you expect me to do (or blid, because afaik he ignores your bogus reports too).

fuck you dumb bitch


(you can't do anything)


True.

LOL i get warned for throwing personal attacks all over the forum? You should see your retarded BF Claw in action. That Polak and his hand puppet SmurfKing are equally guilty of instigating fights on this forum. Wheres their warnings?? Your justice system is all based on lies and you only punish people who you resent.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: I hate naggers on March 14, 2015, 12:29:23 PM
my posts are always calculated. Ask blid!

Quote
Claw, you seem to have an intense obsession with rules and rule-lawyering and general pedantry.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: mousEtopher on March 14, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
I could easily list a dozen examples of you making posts that contain a flame and nothing else. No content, no on-topic contribution. That's spam. Spam is against the rules. You can bitch about "how many rules" this forum has, but it's really just one that you are failing spectacularly to understand. Claw actually has enough of a brain to understand & follow the rules, which is probably how he manages to avoid breaking them.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 12:32:48 PM
I could easily list a dozen examples of you making posts that contain a flame and nothing else. No content, no on-topic contribution. That's spam. Spam is against the rules. You can bitch about "how many rules" this forum has, but it's really just one that you are failing spectacularly to understand. Claw actually has enough of a brain to understand & follow the rules, which is probably how he manages to avoid breaking them.

I am not bitching about how many rules this forum has. I am "bitching" about how they are administrated, you are biased in most/all of your decisions.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 12:37:03 PM
I could easily list a dozen examples of you making posts that contain a flame and nothing else. No content, no on-topic contribution. That's spam. Spam is against the rules. You can bitch about "how many rules" this forum has, but it's really just one that you are failing spectacularly to understand. Claw actually has enough of a brain to understand & follow the rules, which is probably how he manages to avoid breaking them.

Half of claws posts are like that and you never warn him because you have a crush on him or hes ramming you. You can't cherry pick when to punish people, either you do it EVERY SINGLE TIME TO EVERYONE or NOT AT ALL??  Comprende?
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: I hate naggers on March 14, 2015, 12:40:15 PM
its hard to take your 'demands' seriously, ganz, when the only thing you do is creating SPAMmy threads (so called "formal complaints" which only create mess, because theres the report button) about facts (your fake #1 claims) or stuff that literally was created in the flame section.

oh, and unlike you, assclowns, i always back up my words with proofs, post history are open, go ahead and make a huge thread!
off with this thread, i enjoy the new feature, every time i see a post with assclown logic made by an assclown, i press SMITE and carry on with my daily trolling activities. Ta-ta
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 12:41:47 PM
its hard to take your 'demands' seriously, ganz, when the only thing you do is creating SPAMmy threads (so called "formal complaints" which only create mess, because theres the report button) about facts (your fake #1 claims) or stuff that literally was created in the flame section.

oh, and unlike you, assclowns, i always back up my words with proofs, post history are open, go ahead and make a huge thread!
off with this thread, i enjoy the new feature, every time i see a post with assclown logic made by an assclown, i press SMITE and carry on with my daily trolling activities. Ta-ta

Look at this DAM FOOL, this is who she likes to protect lmao.....
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 12:43:41 PM
notice how neither of them has denied they are fucking
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tora is a simp bitch for billionaires on March 14, 2015, 12:45:05 PM
shut the fuck up whiny faggots
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: SmurfKinG on March 14, 2015, 01:26:39 PM
im thinking out loud here, i dont know to what extent would this be doable/possible.

What about to be able to post in the forum, you need to actually play war2 games ?

Like for instance, 10 games earns your ability to make 5 posts and 1 new thread

Some script developed that does this function?

New accounts would automatically be able to post XXX amount, cuz newcomers might need actual support in case they aren't being able to download/connect/etc.

Of course the general discussion/wasteland would still be open.

We all know that it isnt just 1 dude (ganz) that has enormous amount of free time, its several ppl that make this forum their trolling niche, and i'd bet $$ they also don't play war2 as much as they post.


(I once coded shit but im too rusty and really dont have the time to restudy shit at the moment... maybe in a few months i could)
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: SmurfKinG on March 14, 2015, 01:49:09 PM
p.s. @op TK
Running away isn't really a solution
its a matter of adaption. can't really compare a forum to another because for example a forum dedicated to cellphone repairing its job-oriented, the atmosphere is different,  this is game oriented, but some ppl here take their leisure time as their 24 7 jobs.
 its about the ppl who frequent the forum.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 01:54:14 PM
p.s. @op TK
Running away isn't really a solution
its a matter of adaption. can't really compare a forum to another because for example a forum dedicated to cellphone repairing its job-oriented, the atmosphere is different,  this is game oriented, but some ppl here take their leisure time as their 24 7 jobs.
 its about the ppl who frequent the forum.
Ur such a tool, its more about the current administration and their lack of leadership skills.

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Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tora is a simp bitch for billionaires on March 14, 2015, 02:10:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/eAbm92Y.gifv (http://i.imgur.com/eAbm92Y.gifv)

this is TK, except he's 20 years older
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 02:41:20 PM
Lmfao that hilarious

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Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 14, 2015, 03:19:08 PM
im thinking out loud here, i dont know to what extent would this be doable/possible.

What about to be able to post in the forum, you need to actually play war2 games ?

Like for instance, 10 games earns your ability to make 5 posts and 1 new thread

Some script developed that does this function?

New accounts would automatically be able to post XXX amount, cuz newcomers might need actual support in case they aren't being able to download/connect/etc.

Of course the general discussion/wasteland would still be open.

We all know that it isnt just 1 dude (ganz) that has enormous amount of free time, its several ppl that make this forum their trolling niche, and i'd bet $$ they also don't play war2 as much as they post.


(I once coded shit but im too rusty and really dont have the time to restudy shit at the moment... maybe in a few months i could)


lol the forums are already a ghost town and this clown is suggesting that we limit peoples posts? lol
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 03:26:42 PM
im thinking out loud here, i dont know to what extent would this be doable/possible.

What about to be able to post in the forum, you need to actually play war2 games ?

Like for instance, 10 games earns your ability to make 5 posts and 1 new thread

Some script developed that does this function?

New accounts would automatically be able to post XXX amount, cuz newcomers might need actual support in case they aren't being able to download/connect/etc.

Of course the general discussion/wasteland would still be open.

We all know that it isnt just 1 dude (ganz) that has enormous amount of free time, its several ppl that make this forum their trolling niche, and i'd bet $$ they also don't play war2 as much as they post.


(I once coded shit but im too rusty and really dont have the time to restudy shit at the moment... maybe in a few months i could)


lol the forums are already a ghost town and this clown is suggesting that we limit peoples posts? lol
I was thinking the same thing but was hoping he would realize his own stupidity and flaw in his own logic, i woulda been warned by mousey if i would have tried to point that out anywayz [emoji5]

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Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: SmurfKinG on March 14, 2015, 03:59:26 PM
of course
i rather have a clean room with no people in
than a room filled with toxic waste


besides
no need to get defensive. 
its not limiting anything, one would be able to post as much as they want... IF you play the fucking game.

but what's the saying GO?? IF THE SHOE FITS....?

and this shoe you both wore it instantly :P

also its not like you'd be getting muted
general discussion and flame would not be required to earn your points to post or start threads.

its intelligent moderation, sort of encouraging for the posters in this forum to engage into a proactive role in the game, rather than throwing rocks from a corner attitude.


Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: foonat on March 14, 2015, 05:17:52 PM
shut the fuck up whiny faggots
best post in this thread
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tk[as] on March 14, 2015, 06:05:03 PM
holy fuck i leave for a couple hours to go to a st. patty's day parade and come back to this


how is this entire forum not banned yet
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tk[as] on March 14, 2015, 06:08:08 PM
[url]http://i.imgur.com/eAbm92Y.gifv[/url] ([url]http://i.imgur.com/eAbm92Y.gifv[/url])

this is TK, except he's 20 years older


this is jon except ... except nothing.

it's jon

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3138357/village-idiot-o.gif)
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tk[as] on March 14, 2015, 06:12:42 PM
fact of the matter is 99% of you will eventually do or say something that "deserves" a mute/ban (including you smurf)  and when you do you're going to hate these forums as well. only reason ur not bitching yet is because you havent done anything to piss off admins/mods yet.

so unless ur suckin their dicks behind the scenes like CLAW tries to do its gonna happen.

id rather leave before its a ghost town. thats all.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: SmurfKinG on March 14, 2015, 06:36:02 PM
i think you are kind of  slowly self-destructing once again

firstly, you give up adminship.

then come in with these defeatist posts. that serve no purpose
if you wanna quit, you can just do that... like lightbringier did.

and what is the deal between u and claw last weeks?

if i were to judge you by this thread
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,635.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,635.0.html)


id say you're joining the trolls.
claw posts a large explanation of a possible new map
and you join with a comment like.. thats a bad idea lol ( without actually saying what is bad about it)

all i see is unresolved grudge :P


p.s. im not bitching cuz bitching gets you nowhere.



Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tora is a simp bitch for billionaires on March 14, 2015, 06:45:30 PM
[url]http://i.imgur.com/eAbm92Y.gifv[/url] ([url]http://i.imgur.com/eAbm92Y.gifv[/url])

this is TK, except he's 20 years older


this is jon except ... except nothing.

it's jon

([url]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3138357/village-idiot-o.gif[/url])

(http://apocalypstick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/patrick-bateman.gif)
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: tk[as] on March 14, 2015, 06:53:02 PM
im just fucking with claw because he's literally the biggest hypocrite on the forums. he cries about what everyone else does then does the exact same shit himself but he has made it his mission to kiss ass of people in power (he tried to do it to me as soon as i got admin also)

i strongly dislike people who think they are "above the law" just because they kiss the right ass. dislike them more than anyone else... and thats exactly the type of person claw is. u cant change someone like that.

Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 14, 2015, 07:02:27 PM
Claw be suckin that mousey dick...

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Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: SmurfKinG on March 14, 2015, 07:08:32 PM
why would u want to change him

the more you tolerate others, the more you tolerate yourself :P

(https://d11lsn3axbj16p.cloudfront.net/1426374448-96331d09-3bf1.jpg)
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: Winchester on March 14, 2015, 11:21:01 PM
[url]http://i.imgur.com/eAbm92Y.gifv[/url] ([url]http://i.imgur.com/eAbm92Y.gifv[/url])

this is TK, except he's 20 years older


Lol that's Runescape that guys playing in the backround.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: iL on March 16, 2015, 08:54:35 AM
they've turned to shit really fast

im going back to war2.warcraft.org/forum

see u guys there
I'm really sorry you alienated from us and our server.

But i don't see our fault in that.

Note that last time you began your mod job was right after Lb stopped his moderation job, there were only 2 mods: you and blid.

I relaxed and let you do what you want with moderation as you see that.
I just posted that polled-based rules to let us know the majority opinion on how these rules should be handled.
You had several months to handle that yourself to total happiness as you wished.

Not sure how you evaluate your moderation job yourself, but many people began to cry that forum "turned to shit" without any moderation and we need to enforce moderation to save it.
Note that it's not my point of view and not mousey's one. It is a result of rules poll and also several topics on the forum. You can check them in flame wars section if you don't remember that. People really dislike absolute anarchy, they preferred some kind of moredation to keep forum ordered.
That was the same situation with old mods: (me, you, Lightbringer, blid) and also with new mods: (Burnt, mousey, blid).
It's not depend on staff, it depends on community.
Community prefer some kind of moderation stronger instead of total freedom/anarchy.

Of course you feel free to leave and alienate from us, it's your choice.

But i ask you to give chance to our new moderation team. Let's try for several months to see the result. Maybe it will be turned to some kind of order totally accepted for community. We can totally stop any kind of moderation as soon as we see we failed with it.
It is some kind of transition period now, so not everything goes perfect, people can tell about some wrong decisions, to punish somebody and not to punish somebody else. That's usual for such transitions. Please, be patient and let us continue our moderation job.
Title: Re: I apologize for supporting these forums
Post by: iL on March 16, 2015, 08:54:45 AM
they've turned to shit really fast

im going back to war2.warcraft.org/forum

see u guys there
I'm really sorry you alienated from us and our server.

But i don't see our fault in that.

Note that last time you began your mod job was right after Lb stopped his moderation job, there were only 2 mods: you and blid.

I relaxed and let you do what you want with moderation as you see that.
I just posted that polled-based rules to let us know the majority opinion on how these rules should be handled.
You had several months to handle that yourself to total happiness as you wished.

Not sure how you evaluate your moderation job yourself, but many people began to cry that forum "turned to shit" without any moderation and we need to enforce moderation to save it.
Note that it's not my point of view and not mousey's one. It is a result of rules poll and also several topics on the forum. You can check them in flame wars section if you don't remember that. People really dislike absolute anarchy, they preferred some kind of moredation to keep forum ordered.
That was the same situation with old mods: (me, you, Lightbringer, blid) and also with new mods: (Burnt, mousey, blid).
It's not depend on staff, it depends on community.
Community prefer some kind of moderation stronger instead of total freedom/anarchy.

Of course you feel free to leave and alienate from us, it's your choice.

But i ask you to give chance to our new moderation team. Let's try for several months to see the result. Maybe it will be turned to some kind of order totally accepted for community. We can totally stop any kind of moderation as soon as we see we failed with it.
It is some kind of transition period now, so not everything goes perfect, people can tell about some wrong decisions, to punish somebody and not to punish somebody else. That's usual for such transitions. Please, be patient and let us continue our moderation job.