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Server.War2.ru / Re: My work
« on: March 18, 2017, 07:11:58 PM »
What mouse said

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oh shit I missed my slot already, sorry. middle of the day prolly not good, maybe like 10-11pm or else in the morning some day like 6-8, somewhere in there. I'll think about it and figure out what's the best day


Just give a specific day and time.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 18, 2017, 03:12:24 PM »
^^ And with that im done responding in this thread. You guys are obviously living in LaLa land.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 18, 2017, 02:21:07 PM »
You need don't need more tax revenue to make a better health care system or many of the things bernie sanders preached. Your argument sounds more like "it's unfair that some people are very wealthy while others are poor, so lets take away money from rich people."
The tax revenue America already collects is more than sufficient to to cover the costs of running the country properly.
Raising peoples taxes wouldn't bring millions of people out of poverty. It would just make lobbyists in Washington who fight for defense, construction, environmental, etc. more wealthy than they already are.

Example: the 2nd ave subway line in NYC
http://www.npr.org/2017/01/02/507898727/new-yorks-long-awaited-second-avenue-subway-finally-leaves-the-station

This project costs 6 billion dollars for less than 4 miles of train track. It is the most expensive subway line in the world. Why you ask? The world may never know.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 18, 2017, 01:18:05 PM »
again no one cares about your personal anecdotes. the examples of someone becoming well off after starting from nothing is so rare. and your claims of  your parents coming from "nothing" is dubious as fuck anyways.

Ok tell me what do you mean by "from nothing"?

When I say from nothing I mean from no start up capital.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 18, 2017, 12:57:20 PM »
There are people living on the streets out there, and there are people going to bed hungry, and we all have our own little luxuries but $30k on wine each month is beyond decadent, it's so extravagant and stupid, so callous and evil, that the only humane, just, and merciful response is to take these wine enthusiasts, line them up against a wall, and give the signal to the firing squad.  Unfortunately the world is not so kind, and so these people carry on buying $30,000 in wine.

Would it also be ok to also place rappers and celebrities who spend thousands of dollars on jewelry, clothes, and fancy cars in said firing squad?

Poverty isnt that bad in America in the grand scheme of things.
Poverty in America is sinfully bad considering it's the wealthiest nation on earth and the world's foremost neocolonialist, the greatest exploiter of developing world resources and labor in existence.  And yet all that wealth is funneled back to a few billionaires spending $30,000 on wine a month while millions live in poverty, in crushing debt, ready to go bankrupt the first time they get seriously sick.  It's a disgrace.  And shit about your parents doing well doesn't matter, there are tens of millions of people in this country that have jobs and work hard everyday and still struggle to live a life above the poverty line.  It's sick.  And this is at the seat of empire, not even mentioning the suffering we export across the rest of the world, where indeed it's much worse thanks to this malevolent and predatory capitalist system.

The reason I talked about my family is because they are examples of how anyone can work hard and be successful. There are thousands of examples of people who came from little money and social status who went on to be successful.
While it is true that there are people living in inner cities and manufacturing towns who don't have the same opportunities as a good portion of America. That doesn't mean it is impossible for and underprivileged kid to work hard and be successful.

The government collects roughly $3.18 trillion in taxes each year. The problem is not lack of tax revenue to help disproportional under privileged Americans. The problem is wasteful spending and corruption.
The American government doesn't seem able to properly account for its own budget, giving it more tax revenue wouldn't solve any of the problems you are out lining.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 18, 2017, 09:56:35 AM »
that's not true. equal opportunity doesn't exist and your place in the hierarchy of capitalist society is determined by heredity. not hard work. the poorest people of society are also the hardest workers of society.

My parents immigrated to American from India in 1983 with nothing.
My father got a sales job in manhatten and worked 45-60 hours a week until he was able to save enough to start his own business. In 2000 my mother sold my fathers businesses for a considerably large amount of money.
It was through hard work and proper savings/investments that my family is successful. It wasn't hereditary as you claim.

Anyone can work hard and save money. You dont have to be born into wealth.


you think a few rare exceptions change the general rule? many people can work their asses of 60 hours and week and that doesn't guarantee their business will succeed. you got lucky.
also if he got a job as a salesman he likely already had an education, making him already more privileged than most indians. much less than half the country was even literate in the '80s.


Marxism and communism died decades ago. Its a disproven ideology which has been shown to be ineffective.

Seems unlikely anything I will say will tilt your ideology in a different direction. If your fine with the government telling you what to do and how to live so be it I suppose.

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I usually host up games for anyone either Saturdays or Sundays no specific times though. You can add me to the list of hosts to watch for I guess.
Can you commit to an actual day and time? It only has to be one hour per week.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 18, 2017, 01:17:42 AM »
There are people living on the streets out there, and there are people going to bed hungry, and we all have our own little luxuries but $30k on wine each month is beyond decadent, it's so extravagant and stupid, so callous and evil, that the only humane, just, and merciful response is to take these wine enthusiasts, line them up against a wall, and give the signal to the firing squad.  Unfortunately the world is not so kind, and so these people carry on buying $30,000 in wine.

Would it also be ok to also place rappers and celebrities who spend thousands of dollars on jewelry, clothes, and fancy cars in said firing squad?

Poverty isnt that bad in America in the grand scheme of things.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 18, 2017, 01:13:48 AM »
that's not true. equal opportunity doesn't exist and your place in the hierarchy of capitalist society is determined by heredity. not hard work. the poorest people of society are also the hardest workers of society.

My parents immigrated to American from India in 1983 with nothing.
My father got a sales job in manhatten and worked 45-60 hours a week until he was able to save enough to start his own business. In 2000 my mother sold my fathers businesses for a considerably large amount of money.
It was through hard work and proper savings/investments that my family is successful. It wasn't hereditary as you claim.

Anyone can work hard and save money. You dont have to be born into wealth.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 17, 2017, 01:32:41 PM »
if you have 30k to spend on wine, you have too much money.

So what.
Let people do what they want with their money.

or advocate for a better world where obscene inequality doesn't exist.

Some people are rich some are poor its fact of life. Anyone can work hard, make money and climb the income ladder.

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General Discussion / Re: Leftism thread for forum.war2.ru
« on: March 17, 2017, 01:30:16 PM »
No it doesn't

How doesn't it? If you make 1 million a year you could.
Anyone spending $30,000 a month on wine should be shot imho.

Liberals are so non violent lol 

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evil~easy
Ok you will host under this alias. Thats fine

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