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Title: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 27, 2020, 01:54:28 PM
Why Lone inst the new grand master? He literally beat u8 10-7 on their last series.

He beat him so hard that u8 dont even play 1s anymore.

Lone should be new grand master and u8 should be downgrade to Master only.

Fake Grand master.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: ~ToRa~ on May 28, 2020, 05:41:07 PM
@tk[as] @Warbux @XuRnT

Do most players support a shakeup of the whole master, grandmaster, legend series?

I did tell EQ I don’t mind having him run it from now on. But doesn’t look like we’re able to give him access to set the icons, we would have to do it for him. Which isn’t that big a deal.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 28, 2020, 08:59:33 PM
If anyone in the communauty got something against it, be free to give your opinion while it's the time guys.

Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: tk[as] on May 28, 2020, 10:49:52 PM
If he wants it sure. ladder shows 11-7 for that series
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 28, 2020, 10:56:10 PM
If he wants it sure. ladder shows 11-7 for that series

He dosent need to want it bro, it belong to him, period.

People dont need to ask and beg for what it belong to them.

Thats the admin job to keep those rank updates at any time.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Shotgun on May 29, 2020, 01:30:50 AM
Lol 1 series doesn't mean a lot
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 01:32:07 AM
Lol 1 series doesn't mean a lot

Your right thats why u8 cant get this title back with only one series!
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Shotgun on May 29, 2020, 01:36:13 AM
U8 is technically better than Lone, but both use edited hotkeys so not pro IMO.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 01:38:51 AM
U8 is technically better than Lone, but both use edited hotkeys so not pro IMO.

Maybe you use edited hotkeys too, who know...

At this point who use them dosent matter, i dont even wanna know.

Only way to fix that is to close mpq modification to public.

We all know it.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Shotgun on May 29, 2020, 01:41:08 AM
If I edited my hotkeys and played with them for a week I doubt I'd lose tbh
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 01:42:31 AM
If I edited my hotkeys and played with them for a week I doubt I'd lose tbh

Thats the thing, nobody can know truth about that, maybe u8 dont even use edited hokeys anymore, but who will trust him??

If we close MPQ editation to public, everything gonna be fine.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Shotgun on May 29, 2020, 01:46:43 AM
Yeah but you can't do that
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 01:47:56 AM
Sure i can't, thats why iL need to grow a pair.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Shotgun on May 29, 2020, 01:50:49 AM
iL can't either..
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 01:51:19 AM
Way too much cry baby at this game, peoples who think we own them everything...

We own nothing to nobody in particulary, we own something to the communauty.

Everyone deserve the same chance, the same hope and the same justice.




Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 01:52:07 AM
iL can't either..

How so?
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: maciek on May 29, 2020, 05:06:48 AM
I did tell EQ I don’t mind having him run it from now on. But doesn’t look like we’re able to give him access to set the icons, we would have to do it for him. Which isn’t that big a deal.
Just don't let Eq run anything...
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: (PLS DELETE MY ACC) on May 29, 2020, 05:37:47 AM
If anyone in the communauty got something against it, be free to give your opinion while it's the time guys.


U GOTTA PROMISE YOU WILL LET EVERYONE PLAY. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY - REQUEST WARVIDEO AND/OR INSIGHT FROM EVERYONE. ONLY DISQUALIFY WHEN THEY FAIL TO PROVIDE IT.

U CANT JUST CHERRYPICK THE PLAYERS BASED ON YOUR OWN CRITERIA/OPINION.

EXAMPLES:
GOOD: LAMBCHOPS YOU DIDNT GIVE WARVIDEO, I BANN U
BAD: U8 YOU USE MPQ HACK PROGRAMMATION, I BANN U
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 08:57:43 AM
If anyone in the communauty got something against it, be free to give your opinion while it's the time guys.


U GOTTA PROMISE YOU WILL LET EVERYONE PLAY. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY - REQUEST WARVIDEO AND/OR INSIGHT FROM EVERYONE. ONLY DISQUALIFY WHEN THEY FAIL TO PROVIDE IT.

U CANT JUST CHERRYPICK THE PLAYERS BASED ON YOUR OWN CRITERIA/OPINION.

EXAMPLES:
GOOD: LAMBCHOPS YOU DIDNT GIVE WARVIDEO, I BANN U
BAD: U8 YOU USE MPQ HACK PROGRAMMATION, I BANN U

This is not my personal tournament, it's a communauty league, i got no reason to use my personal criteria/opinion.

Anyway some rules will change for sure, but it will be for the best, for the communauty, EVERYONE will be able to have those titles if they deserve it, everyone will be able to lose them too, there no more free pass and no more people who think * i got admins in my pocket, all of em * People will have the chance to fight for something, getting better for something, no more abusing by some players whos take this game in hostage.

But i rassure you, edited mpq will not be a criteria and nobody have to be scare of it, thats another probleme and we can fix this without mixing everything togheter.

People who hack the mpq will still be able to play those league because for the moment edited mpq is still legal.

PS: War video have never been a criteria for me, i think its way too much job and it dont belong to players, players want some fun and competition, they dont want to records/saves and send 5 videos to admins. It stock the league and thats exactly what we want here, unstock that league.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: (PLS DELETE MY ACC) on May 29, 2020, 09:49:43 AM
THERE ARE SUPER POWERFUL HAX OUT THERE AND I WOULD SUGGEST WARVIDEO. NOW MORE THAN EVER
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 09:57:18 AM
THERE ARE SUPER POWERFUL HAX OUT THERE AND I WOULD SUGGEST WARVIDEO. NOW MORE THAN EVER

More details?
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 29, 2020, 10:02:19 AM
own -> owe
That must be one of the most funny miss-types of the month especially in these sentences.  :rofl:

Joke aside:
In a sense I agree I hope players will grow up and just let go of the stupid and annoying drama to just enjoy good gaming and fun.

This is a 20 years old game andwe are not so many left to play it. So lets start respecting one another as we all share one thing in common:  :wc2:

Of course that means no cheating yes, and that also means trying to see the best before the worst in your pairs.

So if you get utterly destroyed in these games the first thing that should come to your minds is not that the guy cheated but that maybe he actually played better than you got lucky or had better timing or map understanding.
Most of the time you will be right with that assumption and if you are wrong well at least you wont be mad about it since you wont be assuming the worst all the time.


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Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 10:18:57 AM
own -> owe
That must be one of the most funny miss-types of the month especially in these sentences.  :rofl:

Joke aside:
In a sense I agree I hope players will grow up and just let go of the stupid and annoying drama to just enjoy good gaming and fun.

This is a 20 years old game andwe are not so many left to play it. So lets start respecting one another as we all share one thing in common:  :wc2:

Of course that means no cheating yes, and that also means trying to see the best before the worst in your pairs.

So if you get utterly destroyed in these games the first thing that should come to your minds is not that the guy cheated but that maybe he actually played better than you got lucky or had better timing or map understanding.
Most of the time you will be right with that assumption and if you are wrong well at least you wont be mad about it since you wont be assuming the worst all the time.


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Games is dead because nobody take cares of it and some peoples get priviledge over everyone in the communauty, if you think pro players from another games will join this game without any security you are wrong, people want and deserve to play secure, but that dosent mean its there job to secure themself and proof they dont hacks, its admin job to do that.

So instead of making useless software like solo russian campain and shit like that, how about making real anti hack and stop trying to steal money peoples?
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 29, 2020, 11:07:10 AM
Errr

You really like to be mad serious all the time...

I will be direct and frank with you and this is the last time I will respond to that kind of comment politely so read carefully because I wont say that many times over:

I am not coming here to work... When I program for war2 I make stuff that makes me happy and that I feel are fun and quick to do, and that are cool to use for me and others.

As for the money and all, this was obviously a joke. I do not want your money I am here because I like warcraft 2 and the fun I get out of what I do is enough for me I do not want to work on my hobby.

I know it would be cool to have a real anti-hack and all I am not denying it. It would be cool to have remastered graphics as well, and many other things like that but I do not have the time nor the money to be able to make these tedious things.

Plus I have no actual knowledge of the game's binary and it would take me ages to sniff my way into this thing even if I really wanted to spend my evenings on this.

That is why I say we can dream of new nice things and although I would love to have these things and can agree they could make the game better. It does not mean we cannot enjoy what we already have.

The game still is running and fun to play and I personally have tons of fun playing it every time.
Sure, things could be better but since I am not going to be the one sweating over this for it to happen, and since I know how much it would cost to a person to do these things, maybe I can try just being grateful for what we do get for free regularly from people like: fois, lambchop, IL (that has to take hours off sleep just to keep the server safe from mentally ill lifeless assholes) etc...

And nothing stops me from still trying to have fun with what we have without insulting and blaming the ones that bring us stuff for not doing the things that I want and that I am not willing to learn / do myself.

Because trust me, we are all human beings in the end: Insults and complaints and ungrateful rants do not give us the will to continue doing these things the more you insult people the more they want to just stop investing themselves and leave to other projects were people actually appreciate what they do...

So if you want more stuff start doing your part or at the very least start recognizing what people that do not owe you anything bring to the table every now and then...
Right now I know for a fact IL spent more than 3 nights awake working his ass for the server to keep running start showing a little respect or maybe one day the next IL will have to be you and we will see how the constant ranting affects your will to continue doing nice things at the cost of your own health for a game you barely have the time to play anymore...

Maybe we make "useless software", yet no one is stopping you from doing useful things or being nice, yet you appear to fail to be able to do either of those things...

A bon entendeur...

 :critter:
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: tk[as] on May 29, 2020, 12:09:12 PM
Some people dont want tags eq.

You talk about cry baby. You are literally biggest .ru cry baby last 3 months.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 12:17:53 PM
Errr

You really like to be mad serious all the time...

I will be direct and frank with you:

I am not coming here to work... When I program for war2 I make stuff that makes me happy and that I feel are fun and quick to do, and that are cool to use for me and others.

As for the money and all, this was obviously a joke. I do not want your money I am here because I like warcraft 2 and the fun I get out of what I do is enough for me I do not want to work on my hobby.

I know it would be cool to have a real anti-hack and all I am not denying it. It would be cool to have remastered graphics as well, and many other things like that but I do not have the time nor the money to be able to make these tedious things.

Plus I have no actual knowledge of the game's binary and it would take me ages to sniff my way into this thing even if I really wanted to spend my evenings on this.

That is why I say we can dream of new nice things and although I would love to have these things and can agree they could make the game better. It does not mean we cannot enjoy what we already have.

The game still is running and fun to play and I personally have tons of fun playing it every time.
Sure, things could be better but since I am not going to be the one sweating over this for it to happen, and since I know how much it would cost to a person to do these things, maybe I can try just being grateful for what we do get for free regularly from people like: fois, lambchop, IL (that has to take hours off sleep just to keep the server safe from mentally ill lifeless assholes) etc...

And nothing stops me from still trying to have fun with what we have without insulting and blaming the ones that bring us stuff for not doing the things that I want and that I am not willing to learn / do myself.

Because trust me we are all human beings in the end insults and complaints and ungrateful rants do not give us the will to continue doing these things the more you insult people the more they want to just stop investing themselves and leave to other projects were people actually appreciate what they do...

So if you want more stuff start doing your part or at the very least start recognizing what people that do not owe you anything bring to the table every now and then...
Right now I know for a fact IL spent more than 3 nights awake working his ass for the server start showing a little respect or maybe one day the next IL will have to be you and we will see how the constant ranting affect your will to continue doing nice things...

A bon entendeur...

 :critter:

'' I am not coming here to work... When I program for war2 I make stuff that makes me happy and that I feel are fun and quick to do, and that are cool to use for me and others. ''

I understand that and i respect that, but the fact is you totally know there peoples who abbuse of the security lack of the server, as a programmar you know those thing more then anyone here, but you act like it's almost a conspiracy and even worst you are protecting them... You are tolding us we are almost retards because editing our hotkeys is not more complicated then open winwar, but you know its not true at all, you cant even explain us how to do those things, because it's exactly complicated. What i say is not that you need to be our slave and do a software for us, but if you want to feel happy, maybe you should work on probleme that we try to solve for many years, making us happy should make you happy....

'' As for the money and all, this was obviously a joke. I do not want your money I am here because I like warcraft 2 and the fun I get out of what I do is enough for me I do not want to work on my hobby. ''

You were pretty serious bro, just assume it like a men! And the thing is, i totally understand that you can be paid for those things and i also respect that, every work should be paid, but this is not a personal service that we talk about, you are acting like if that hotkeys programms is only for me, but at the end it's a communauty service that we talk about, if you made that software, you dont just please me, but an entire communauty.... Your proposition is exactly about what i cry about, those peoples who have privilege over the other ones, and now you are telling me, give me 200$ and ill made you an edited hotkeys software... For me to accept that is literally do exactly what i denounce. It's almost if you just wanna laugh of me..

'' That is why I say we can dream of new nice things and although I would love to have these things and can agree they could make the game better. It does not mean we cannot enjoy what we already have. ''

Thats true and thats why when i does my tournaments or things like that i always make a rule about the anti-hack even if i know it dosent work, because it's better then nothing and i respect the effort of iL... And i think any decent human who really love that game and really respect effort of other should show the exemple and use that anti-hack. That's why i have no respect at all for peoples who dont use it and act like they are alone in there little world, i have way much more respect for iL then u8. For 2 years he just dint cares about anti hack and act like if he was the king, that bahavior just show to other peoples they can do the same as him, as one of the best and popular players, he must show the exemple untill he just say '' i dont cares of everyone, im just here for my personal pleasure '' Wich is really fucking coward, and i dont have respect for that kind of peoples, sorry.

'' The game still is running and fun to play and I personally have tons of fun playing it every time.
Sure, things could be better but since I am not going to be the one sweating over this for it to happen, and since I know how much it would cost to a person to do these things, maybe I can try just being grateful for what we do get for free regularly from people like: fois, lambchop, IL (that has to take hours off sleep just to keep the server safe from mentally ill lifeless assholes) etc... ''

The game is super fun for you because you still new at this game and you probably dont even cares about competition.. But there peoples for who it need more then just log in and play some games, it's a fact, it's a human behavior, competition is part of almost everyone, i can understand it's not everyone who need competition, but anyone who told me i lie is the liar. When you goes to the channel and you see grudge bewteen 2 peoples, it's not about me... When someone is mad because he lose a game, it's not about me, that behavior is well know from years and always will be... So What i try to do is exactly to change those mentality, and thats why security is important for everyone, if players dont feel safe from the begginning, then he already start with no confidence about the true result of the game. People need to feel safe to accept there lose like a man. Now i understand programmars work hard and deserve respect and gratefull, your totally right, but let me tell you something.... Communauty have nothing to do with moustopher or lambchop quiting..... It's exactly the staff who make them quit, mousetopher leave because the saga burnt/van and lambchop leave because of tk. You see thats another big probleme, that staff cant even roll on the same page and they are cockblocking each other instead of working togheter... I respect iL effort and dedication to the server, but like i have always say, he dont know what hes doing at all, he have no plan, no structure, hes just acting like, let's does the destiny do the work. This game need serious goal and serious staff, if you really respect that game, then give it what it really deserve.

'' Because trust me we are all human beings in the end insults and complaints and ungrateful rants do not give us the will to continue doing these things the more you insult people the more they want to just stop investing themselves and leave to other projects were people actually appreciate what they do... ''

Insulting is relative my friend, for you insulting is saying the truth directly with no filter, for me insulting is someone like iL who dint even answer my threads and act like if i dont even exist. If you think peoples have never insult me the way you talk about, it's because you dont know what it is to eard people tell you, die stupid french, fucking frog, retard, mental ilness, die from your cancer etc, etc.... But for me it's not even a big deal, because im a grown men and i understand it's always have been and it always will be... For me what is insulting is that people in charge of autority that dont even cares about what we say. Last week server was down, mutiple peoples made thread about it, iL see it for 4 days in a row and just ignore our post, i had to made a thread and call him a garbage to finally see him fix the server 15 minutes later. How does i have to insult that guys 4 days after everyone complaint and he see it? I dont say he need to fix it, but if he cant because he got something else to do, then he just can told us sorry guys im really busy right now i will try to do that as fast as i can, but seing the threads and leaving like a coward like if the game is dying? Certainly not bro, that for me is pretty insulting.

'' So if you want more stuff start doing your part or at the very least start recognizing what people that do not owe you anything bring to the table every now and then...
Right now I know for a fact IL spent more than 3 nights awake working his ass for the server start showing a little respect or maybe one day the next IL will have to be you and we will see how the constant ranting affect your will to continue doing nice things... ''

I have ask for many years to help that server, i made tournament for years, i made league, i made forums, i made website, i take cares of peoples in channel, i hosted for them, i have been fair with them, making the most legit team every times so everyone can actually enjouy our games... I have fight for them, i have force admins to do lot of new thing for us... New forum, anti-hack, icons, banner in the lobby... But they have never respect what i did by exactly doing what you are doing here, acting like if i never did anything... And they are not respecting my own autority when i make my own tournaments and league, they have never support me, the only thing they do is talking about my money... Give me 500$ and i will put you admin, give me 200$ and i will make you a software... I will give them money when i wanna give them money, nobody gonna buy me like that, nobody gonna corrupt me like they does with everyone else. Im fighting against that behavior, i dont want to enter ur secret society thats wants to run the world. You think i cant handle that server and you want money? Then sell it to me 2000$ and both of your probleme gonna be fix  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 12:27:47 PM
Some people dont want tags eq.

You talk about cry baby. You are literally biggest .ru cry baby last 3 months.

Thats a fucking lie bro, everyone want there tag, maciek and teaboy are mad cuz they both lose ther tag, swift is also saying legend his is own personal tag and he will keep it because he got admins in his pocket, all of em...

U8 stop playing because he cant stand the fact that lone beat him.

All those guys have been feed by your non sens hypocrite priviledges that you have give them over the years, and now they are literally acting like a bunch of cry baby, those guys are maybe pro, but they are not special at the point they deserve more then anyone else here. If they lose, they lose, period... Want to brag as the best came with a role, that role is defending those titles and show the exemple. I dont support any coward behavior, taking those tags in hostage is pretty cowards and kill the evolution of this game. Peoples get better and they need to know it's possible to achieve something, those legend, grand master and master tag is part of it, it push people to there limit and actually help the game to grow up, nobody can take those tags in hostage, if they want permanant tag, then they can win tournament like player in 2017 who have his permanant tag... But that series is an every day series and it cant be stock for the pleasure of some monsters that you have create yourself!

Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 29, 2020, 01:09:59 PM
Thanks for actually caring enough to read I was not expecting that.

If you think I was being serious about the money you are seriously mistaking... 200$ to open a archive file and search for keys into them cmon lets be serious for a second :rofl:...
You do not need me for that, there are a lot of people that know exactly where to look I would just have to ask politely szwaggier to tell me how and where it is.

I just honestly never felt like it was a big deal but I can tell you really feel like it is, and maybe I am wrong maybe it is harder to do than that but honestly from what I read about the subject it does sound fairly simple...

The money joke was just there to make the point that I am not working here, I am just making some things for my hobby and the game I love, and I do what I kinda feel like doing.

I wont say the other names that I used to play under on battle.net but let me just say that you are mistaking if you think I have no understanding of the high level game play on that game and that I have no interest in competitive gaming.
Though it is true for me these days are over I just like to troll around now, and maybe you are right, maybe the lack of an automatic matchmaking/anti-hack is in it for something. Or maybe just I do not feel like I have anything to prove myself on this game now I just enjoy the small little things and plays.


As for the whole "this game needs better staff better goals" yes certainly but we are on our own here... No one can afford spending hours and hours on programming scripts for the server to defend itself, and then also have the human social skills and time to go and tell everyone on the forums and all that yes we are looking into the problem and are working to fix it.
It is true that on many other modern games you may be used to have a person to directly talk to in these situations but that person is usually not the person directly working on the problem companies hire people to handle the talking. Of course we really love that game but we are on our own and we cannot afford paying a full staff just to do these side things even though I agree with you the game is very well worth it, but it was abandoned and now we do with what we have... Just us...

So no, not responding or not paying attention to all your rants and unhappy comments is not being insulting. It is just having different priorities and not being able to be everywhere at the same time. When IL or I see the server being attacked and we have like 4 hours left of free time well we usually just go ahead and try and fix it thinking the faster we fix it the better because we do not want to just completely screw our sleeping schelude. Bare in mind that we still have to wake up the following morning.

During that time we are sorry that you are in the dark and that you cant play but we cannot play either mind you, and we do not even know how long it will really take either ourselves.

Also I personally do not want to rule the world I refused every time I was asked to be admin because power is a double edge sword and drama is not really my thing I just want to play war2 and enjoy the game and help it thrive the end. :-)

As for the server owner, for now we have a server that works be careful what you wish for, I for one would certainly leave if that server went in other hands than IL because the more I know that man the more I feel like war2.ru is in good and loving hands. And IL is a person that clearly is not a power monger...
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Zelya on May 29, 2020, 01:47:15 PM
swift is also saying legend his is own personal tag and he will keep it because he got admins in his pocket

This was discussed many times. You can read starting from here:
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2734.msg67763.html#msg67763 (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2734.msg67763.html#msg67763)

Swift has got the last master tag from this server creator Ldir. So when everybody got later their personal "master"/"super master"/"mega ultra master" tags, Swift got the new unique one. And this is fair.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 02:04:24 PM
Thanks for actually caring enough to read I was not expecting that.

If you think I was being serious about the money you are seriously mistaking... 200$ to open a archive file and search for keys into them cmon lets be serious for a second :rofl:...
You do not need me for that, there are a lot of people that know exactly where to look I would just have to ask politely szwaggier to tell me how and where it is.

I just honestly never felt like it was a big deal but I can tell you really feel like it is, and maybe I am wrong maybe it is harder to do than that but honestly from what I read about the subject it does sound fairly simple...

The money joke was just there to make the point that I am not working here, I am just making some things for my hobby and the game I love, and I do what I kinda feel like doing.

I wont say the other names that I used to play under on battle.net but let me just say that you are mistaking if you think I have no understanding of the high level game play on that game and that I have no interest in competitive gaming.
Though it is true for me these days are over I just like to troll around now, and maybe you are right, maybe the lack of an automatic matchmaking/anti-hack is in it for something. Or maybe just I do not feel like I have anything to prove myself on this game now I just enjoy the small little things and plays.


As for the whole "this game needs better staff better goals" yes certainly but we are on our own here... No one can afford spending hours and hours on programming scripts for the server to defend itself, and then also have the human social skills and time to go and tell everyone on the forums and all that yes we are looking into the problem and are working to fix it.
It is true that on many other modern games you may be used to have a person to directly talk to in these situations but that person is usually not the person directly working on the problem companies hire people to handle the talking. Of course we really love that game but we are on our own and we cannot afford paying a full staff just to do these side things even though I agree with you the game is very well worth it, but it was abandoned and now we do with what we have... Just us...

So no, not responding or not paying attention to all your rants and unhappy comments is not being insulting. It is just having different priorities and not being able to be everywhere at the same time. When IL or I see the server being attacked and we have like 4 hours left of free time well we usually just go ahead and try and fix it thinking the faster we fix it the better because we do not want to just completely screw our sleeping schelude. Bare in mind that we still have to wake up the following morning.

During that time we are sorry that you are in the dark and that you cant play but we cannot play either mind you, and we do not even know how long it will really take either ourselves.

Also I personally do not want to rule the world I refused every time I was asked to be admin because power is a double edge sword and drama is not really my thing I just want to play war2 and enjoy the game and help it thrive the end. :-)

As for the server owner, for now we have a server that works be careful what you wish for, I for one would certainly leave if that server went in other hands than IL because the more I know that man the more I feel like war2.ru is in good and loving hands. And IL is a person that clearly is not a power monger...

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If you think I was being serious about the money you are seriously mistaking... 200$ to open a archive file and search for keys into them cmon lets be serious for a second :rofl:...

'' Now as I told you I have never done it so no I cannot tell you the exact names of the files and lines you need to edit and I am not going to just do something I don't even want to do in the first place just so you have the number of a line in a file you could just as well read as me.
Or pay me to do it like 200$ and I maybe ill consider doing something that I don't want to do just to make you happy but then again I am no thief and I wont charge someone to do something that stupidly simple. ''

Sorry but for me it look pretty serious lol....

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You do not need me for that, there are a lot of people that know exactly where to look I would just have to ask politely szwaggier to tell me how and where it is.

Yes exactly i dont need you to do that, and nobody need nobody to do that, cuz if that kind of advantage is allowed it should be allowed for everyone without any exception, if you dont have time and nobody in that staff have time to check this out, how players are suppose to have time to check this out, player are not that peoples who decide to take cares of this games, you guys are admins, its your job to take cares of those things, peoples are not suppose to start programmation and take hours for trying to be at same level of other cheater hackers. That's your job! Or at least admin job!

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I just honestly never felt like it was a big deal but I can tell you really feel like it is, and maybe I am wrong maybe it is harder to do than that but honestly from what I read about the subject it does sound fairly simple...

Here again, stop talking about me, like if i was alone, alot of peoples think like me, but they dont speak here cuz they dont want to look like trouble maker, frenchmen got this for thems, dont worry..

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The money joke was just there to make the point that I am not working here, I am just making some things for my hobby and the game I love, and I do what I kinda feel like doing.


Like i say, you are free to do whatever you want, you are not our slaves and you are totally right about it, my probleme with you, is you say you dont cares about those things and you just here for fun, but you seem to cares alot since you try to change my mind about it since the last 3 months... You seem to cares about it when you are protecting those hackers and you totally know they are hacking us. There is my probleme with you.

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I wont say the other names that I used to play under on battle.net but let me just say that you are mistaking if you think I have no understanding of the high level game play on that game and that I have no interest in competitive gaming.
Though it is true for me these days are over I just like to troll around now, and maybe you are right, maybe the lack of an automatic matchmaking/anti-hack is in it for something. Or maybe just I do not feel like I have anything to prove myself on this game now I just enjoy the small little things and plays.

I dont know you at all you are right on that, but i seen couple minutes of your stream and i can definitly say you are not a competitive level and thats probably why you say you dont cares. Other then that matchmaking is not a probleme at all, there no need of matchmaking untill we have a team game ladder wich is we dont have, 1v1 dont need matchmaking at all, what we need is a true anti-hack and close other client that bring latency lag and corruption between add-ons. We could have a nice anti-hack that tupac made but since admins are dictator and want to control everything in there staff, they punish the entire communauty because they dont want tupac in the staff.

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As for the whole "this game needs better staff better goals" yes certainly but we are on our own here... No one can afford spending hours and hours on programming scripts for the server to defend itself, and then also have the human social skills and time to go and tell everyone on the forums and all that yes we are looking into the problem and are working to fix it.
It is true that on many other modern games you may be used to have a person to directly talk to in these situations but that person is usually not the person directly working on the problem companies hire people to handle the talking. Of course we really love that game but we are on our own and we cannot afford paying a full staff just to do these side things even though I agree with you the game is very well worth it, but it was abandoned and now we do with what we have... Just us...

Thats the probleme here again... You guys say you dont have time for creating an anti hack and some usefull software like hotkeys editation, but if we go on the programmar section of the forum, there like 20 differents programmars making 20 different useless software that nobody cares.... Why spending months for doing russian solo campain? We are on a multiplayer server, no? Nobody cares of solo campain and nobody cares of russian... I mean... You guys dont have time to make an anti hack and edited hotkeys software, but you all have time to make useless software that nobody cares, and iL have time to make a personal website for russian, a personnal forum for russian, a personnal ladder for russian, a personnal tournament for russian, he even made the russian laddder linked to players profile into the website.. Why we dont have that here??? Is that game is for russian and rest of the world are garbage?? Where is my personal french ladder, where is german personnal website, where is the personnal swedish forum? I mean you guys say this and say that, but it's all bullshit bro, we have live in the lie for way too much years, i dont get any of this bullshit anymore, im fucking sorry but it dont work anymore... You guys are probably 20 programmars who make non sens softwares every fucking month and iL clearly work for a nationality in particular, he must split his time between the world server and the russian one, hes acting like russian have super power and rest of the world are eating there crumb. So here the problemes, privileges, lies, no structure, no plan, nothing serious, i understand peoples are not perfect and its an hard work, the probleme for me it's not that nobody achieve it but that nobody even have try to make something serious with this game. We live in lies, and you try to manipulate us that i am crazy and there no evidence about what i say.

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So no, not responding or not paying attention to all your rants and unhappy comments is not being insulting. It is just having different priorities and not being able to be everywhere at the same time. When IL or I see the server being attacked and we have like 4 hours left of free time well we usually just go ahead and try and fix it thinking the faster we fix it the better because we do not want to just completely screw our sleeping schelude. Bare in mind that we still have to wake up the following morning.

Here again you still put everything on me like if i was the only one, always putting everything on me like if i was alone in my things and i am crazy, but that week iL just not answer to me, he dint answer to nobody for a straight 4 days, 3 peoples excluding me have made a thread about it, and iL see them everytime cuz i seen he was log on and he was even reading those threads... But he dint fucking say a damn word, if he cant because hes busy he just have to let us know, but ignoring our post to the entire communauty is a lack of profesionnalism and its lazyness.

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Also I personally do not want to rule the world I refused every time I was asked to be admin because power is a double edge sword and drama is not really my thing I just want to play war2 and enjoy the game and help it thrive the end. :-)

Yeah here again you preaching for the same bullshit, im just here for fun and enjoy the game, but i harrasse you since the three last months about how u8 is a good guy and i dont understand him and i dont understand nobody and i have mental ilneess... No time to protect the communauty but have some time to have an opinion on hack and protect them.

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As for the server owner, for now we have a server that works be careful what you wish for, I for one would certainly leave if that server went in other hands than IL because the more I know that man the more I feel like war2.ru is in good and loving hands. And IL is a person that clearly is not a power monger...

This is some threat and manipulation, you guys have use that for too many years, people gonna leave if this happen or that happen.... But the truth is Peoples have made a new server because they can stand this one, opinion are relative, it dosent mean everyone think the same.. I dont let threat scare me anymore, you wanna leave, leave, you dont want to be part of the ladder? dont be part of the ladder, you dont want to defend your legend, grand master and master tag? Leave, we will find new champions and the new champions will enjoy them. If someone want to leave, then he is free to leave!
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 02:10:13 PM
swift is also saying legend his is own personal tag and he will keep it because he got admins in his pocket

This was discussed many times. You can read starting from here:
[url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2734.msg67763.html#msg67763[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2734.msg67763.html#msg67763[/url])

Swift has got the last master tag from this server creator Ldir. So when everybody got later their personal "master"/"super master"/"mega ultra master" tags, Swift got the new unique one. And this is fair.


Ldir have no autory here, he have been afk of this server for the last 15 years, nobody cares about what that guy say, even iL have no autority on it, those tags belong to the communauty, who ever beat swift is the new legend, thats how it suppose to work, period.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 29, 2020, 02:44:28 PM
You keep saying "you guys are admins", but you seem to forget I am not more of an admin as you are...

And you say I defend that or that other person, in general I tend to defend people that are nice and that clearly are bringing a lot of people back to the game that I love.
I do respect that you are all about your ladder and your competitive league and stuff. Knowing who of the last 30 active players will be the 1st may be exciting and all but yeah....
For me though it is a lot less exciting than if we had around 10000 active players then maybe yes rank would mean something I guess for now it is just the best of what we have...

Wether you hate him or not U8's stream is very popular these days, and he is both enjoyable to watch  and nice to people that come in his streams.
And whether he looses or wins he never shows an once of negativity so yes I think he brings a lot to the game even if he has edited shortcuts... Just because people come back to look at him play and bringing fun to others who for the most part all joined the game recently.

But also like I already said you are right it would be nice to have these new things including an easy shortcuts setter, but I am certainly not gonna do it even for 200$ or 2000$ or even 1000000$... Not because I do not want the best for the community but because I have a slightly different picture than you.
You see the little time that I save for war2 right now is only going to get into security and stability for the server and the sites. Now this is what I believe is the priority at least for me.

As for the antihack from Tupac hmmm, are you aware of what people from his server have been doing in our discord for the past 3 weeks?
Do you know what he did to mousey when she was still around with the admin right he had at the time? And knowing all that you still want to trust and download stuff he does?
Ok then it is your choice I personally do not want ru to have anything to do with somebody like that but I am no more admin than you are so it is not up to us anyways...

Now maybe Tupac is legit now and does not do these kind of creepy stuff anymore and is completely reformed I just am not desperate enough to want to give him the benefit of the doubt...
Plus I am sorry but hacks are certainly not ruining my games maybe because I am chill enough to realize if I die to an invisible mage with flames shields in my gold flow I may have fucked up somewhere in the way more than my opponent having better hotkeys... But that may be just me... lol
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Zelya on May 29, 2020, 02:51:08 PM
Ldir have no autory here, he have been afk of this server for the last 15 years, nobody cares about what that guy say, even iL have no autority on it, those tags belong to the communauty, who ever beat swift is the new legend, thats how it suppose to work, period.
This is the biggest problem of the current war2 community, that there are some people who do not respect others, who made this community. Ldir, il from technical side, swift from game attraction perspective. I have some respect even for you with your greatest butthurt. Because I remember Eq, who made great tournaments, so bring his value into war2 community. And as long as we talk "he is AFK for years and has no authority" our community will degrade.
Who do you thing "has authority " to present community now and give "legend" tags?
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 29, 2020, 02:56:31 PM
Also I meant it the other day if you think you could learn programming you should definitely do it!

Because we do need more people to be able to create these awesome things that we all want. Do you have the time to work on that a little everyday yourself?
It takes roughly a month to learn pure C and from there you can learn anything in about a week or so.

Then how many hours per week are you willing to sacrifice for making these projects?   :slight_smile:

I am being serious do not think one second that I am joking we need more people for sure, and/or would you be willing to be our relay spokesman for the forum when these problems happen?
So when it happens you stay awake with us and relay informations from discord and take care of the forums for us so that people know what is happening as it happens?

You see that last problem that seemed to be the main one for you is easy to fix really we just need some more people to volunteer, as I said this is a community project expecting IL to do everything just because he is the owner of the server is just being unrealistic. He does what he can with the time he has for war2 like we all do...
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: (PLS DELETE MY ACC) on May 29, 2020, 03:17:50 PM
WOT DID TUPAC DO TO MOUSEY? CURIOUS
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 03:22:25 PM
You keep saying you guys are admins, but you seem to forget I am not more of an admin as you are...

And you say I defend that or that other person, in general I tend to defend people that are nice and that clearly are bringing a lot of people back to the game that I love.
I do respect that you are all about your ladder and your competitive league and stuff. Knowing who of the last 30 active players will be the 1st may be exciting and all but yeah....
For me though it is a lot less exciting than if we had around 10000 active players then maybe yes rank would mean something I guess for now it is just the best of what we have...

Wether you hate him or not U8's stream is very popular these days, and he is both enjoyable to watch  and nice to people that come in his streams.
And whether he looses or wins he never shows an once of negativity so yes I think he brings a lot to the game even if he has edited shortcuts... Just because people come back to look at him play and bringing fun to others who for the most part all joined the game recently.

But also like I already said you are right it would be nice to have these new things including an easy shortcuts setter, but I am certainly not gonna do it even for 200$ or 2000$ or even 1000000$... Not because I do not want the best for the community but because I have a slightly different picture than you.
You see the little time that I save for war2 right now is only going to get into security and stability for the server and the sites. Now this is what I believe is the priority at least for me.

As for the antihack from Tupac hmmm, are you aware of what people from his server have been doing in our discord for the past 3 weeks?
Do you know what he did to mousey when she was still around with the admin right he had at the time? And knowing all that you still want to trust and download stuff he does?
Ok then it is your choice I personally do not want ru to have anything to do with somebody like that but I am no more admin than you are so it is not up to us anyways...

Now maybe Tupac is legit now and does not do these kind of creepy stuff anymore and is completely reformed I just am not desperate enough to want to give him the benefit of the doubt...
Plus I am sorry but hacks are certainly not ruining my games maybe because I am chill enough to realize if I die to an invisible mage with flames shields in my gold flow I may have fucked up somewhere in the way more than my opponent having better hotkeys... But that may be just me... lol

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You keep saying you guys are admins, but you seem to forget I am not more of an admin as you are...

Because you are acting like one.

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And you say I defend that or that other person, in general I tend to defend people that are nice and that clearly are bringing a lot of people back to the game that I love.
I do respect that you are all about your ladder and your competitive league and stuff. Knowing who of the last 30 active players will be the 1st may be exciting and all but yeah....
For me though it is a lot less exciting than if we had around 10000 active players then maybe yes rank would mean something I guess for now it is just the best of what we have...

Im rolling with you on this point, protecting nice people should be one of our first goal, but there nothing nice about being an hypocrite like u8 does.

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Wether you hate him or not U8's stream is very popular these days, and he is both enjoyable to watch  and nice to people that come in his streams.
And whether he looses or wins he never shows an once of negativity so yes I think he brings a lot to the game even if he has edited shortcuts... Just because people come back to look at him play and bringing fun to others who for the most part all joined the game recently.

Actually i dont hate him, i just want him to act like a man.

His stream his also one of my biggest probleme, because actually you are right hes a popular streamer and this is where it became dangerous, he is a popular streamer who show bad exemple to all this peoples... But even with that fact i respect his stream, the proof is i never stream while he stream cuz i think is a lack of respect in a communauty of 80 players, so everytime he stream i let him do his thing, he also ban me on his channel but he cam to spy mine every fucking time i stream and i still dint have ban him.

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But also like I already said you are right it would be nice to have these new things including an easy shortcuts setter, but I am certainly not gonna do it even for 200$ or 2000$ or even 1000000$... Not because I do not want the best for the community but because I have a slightly different picture than you.
You see the little time that I save for war2 right now is only going to get into security and stability for the server and the sites. Now this is what I believe is the priority at least for me.

Security and stability is really important i must say it, thats why you guys should close those differents old rigged clients that bring mores hacks and lag, you also must realize its the staff that you are protecting right now who make live those monsters. I can show you tons of threads where moderators and admins insult peoples like, dellam, archers, tupac, lance, etc etc etc. Hope you guys learn of your mystake.

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As for the antihack from Tupac hmmm, are you aware of what people from his server have been doing in our discord for the past 3 weeks?
Do you know what he did to mousey when she was still around with the admin right he had at the time? And knowing all that you still want to trust and download stuff he does?
Ok then it is your choice I personally do not want ru to have anything to do with somebody like that but I am no more admin than you are so it is not up to us anyways...

Now maybe Tupac is legit now and does not do these kind of creepy stuff anymore and is completely reformed I just am not desperate enough to want to give him the benefit of the doubt...


First i dont have any idea about what you talk about, but what i know is how tupac have offer his help over the last years, he always have offer his help and he always been respectfull with peoples while those people was treat him like shit, i seriously dont know what you talk about with mousetopher, but i would love to eard that from his own mouth. Look like the treat of tupac was not so much important since the reason why she left was the saga burnt/van.

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Plus I am sorry but hacks are certainly not ruining my games maybe because I am chill enough to realize if I die to an invisible mage with flames shields in my gold flow I may have fucked up somewhere in the way more than my opponent having better hotkeys... But that may be just me... lol

Here again... It's not about me, it's about an entire communauty, stop protecting hacker on my name, you are protecting hackers against the entire communauty.

Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 03:29:54 PM
Ldir have no autory here, he have been afk of this server for the last 15 years, nobody cares about what that guy say, even iL have no autority on it, those tags belong to the communauty, who ever beat swift is the new legend, thats how it suppose to work, period.
This is the biggest problem of the current war2 community, that there are some people who do not respect others, who made this community. Ldir, il from technical side, swift from game attraction perspective. I have some respect even for you with your greatest butthurt. Because I remember Eq, who made great tournaments, so bring his value into war2 community. And as long as we talk "he is AFK for years and has no authority" our community will degrade.
Who do you thing "has authority " to present community now and give "legend" tags?

Everyone respect Ldir, but respecting someone dont mean he have autority on us, yeah right he made the server 15 years ago, but he dont cares about this games at all, he dont play, hes not here to taking cares of us, he dont even give us life sign... This dude is literally a ghost, no ghost will rule my world brotha...That dosent mean i dont respect him, but if you think someone who dosent cares about this game anymore and just take some decisions about his personal opinion when iL dont know what to do anymore..... Thats pretty stupid bro, i must tell you.

Now the person who got autority about those master tag is tora, hes the one who bring them to us, hes the one who made tournaments about it, hes the one who paid from his own pocket every prize that he promise... So For me he is the real goat of that league, and since he clearly think i can take that mission, i am the new one who is in charge of that autority.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 29, 2020, 06:21:53 PM
Well u8 is not using edited shortcuts behind your backs he openly said he was using these many times when he used them and said when he did not.
There is a big difference between doing things behind people's back and doing it in the open if you do not want to play with him using these changes you can basically not join his games there is no malicious intent here to try to back-stab people imo which is a big deal if there was.

About what Tupac did to mousey you may have to dig a bit on the forum but it happened not that long ago, he sniffed personal informations of mousey and then came back saying he had her facebook, disclosed her real name and threatened to release a lot of pictures of her without her consent also going so far as saying she was ugly... At the time even Babyshark that was associated with him already said that was seriously fucked up and Tupac was going too far... Even Babyshark called him out on this...

Personally that is a red flag, if he does that with the infos he has no right to get what will he do with the infos people give him eh?!
Maybe he has changed since then but this is still not a great precedent... Again no matter what position and opinion mousey may have held at the time this is just a red line crossed.

And like I said it should all still be up there on the Forum history so you do not have to take my word for it: have a look for yourself.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 29, 2020, 06:44:50 PM
About mousetopher's departure from what I have read it indeed had nothing to do with Tupac:
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People going on and on on stupid drama instead of just playing and enjoying the game is likely what pushed mousey away, sadly I was not there when that shit took place but Drama queens certainly are one of the long time problems of our community.

Drama is bad for the game it is what pushes people away, we all want to play a game and if we let drama take a hold on things there is no space for the game anymore and all you get when you connect is angry faces and endless rants all over the place...

That is why it is not good to always keep that shit up, we need to know when to stop and just accept that we have our differences and move along and play the game.
After all we all love the game and that should be the one thing that brings us together.

No one comes online and wants to be dealing with drama 99% of the time, when you connect to a game you want to play and have fun and drama is a waste of time for everyone so that is why I am acting the way I do... I am not saying we should ignore issues I am saying we could try to minimize the effects they have on our fun and other's.

And dang I really miss mousetopher... Here was a person that always was ready to have some chill games for fun and that I never had any single problem with. She hopped into games and played and had fun no complaining no ranting just pure fun and happyness all around...
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 08:35:38 PM
Well u8 is not using edited shortcuts behind your backs he openly said he was using these many times when he used them and said when he did not.
There is a big difference between doing things behind people's back and doing it in the open if you do not want to play with him using these changes you can basically not join his games there is no malicious intent here to try to back-stab people imo which is a big deal if there was.

About what Tupac did to mousey you may have to dig a bit on the forum but it happened not that long ago, he sniffed personal informations of mousey and then came back saying he had her facebook, disclosed her real name and threatened to release a lot of pictures of her without her consent also going so far as saying she was ugly... At the time even Babyshark that was associated with him already said that was seriously fucked up and Tupac was going too far... Even Babyshark called him out on this...

Personally that is a red flag, if he does that with the infos he has no right to get what will he do with the infos people give him eh?!
Maybe he has changed since then but this is still not a great precedent... Again no matter what position and opinion mousey may have held at the time this is just a red line crossed.

And like I said it should all still be up there on the Forum history so you do not have to take my word for it: have a look for yourself.

You are right U8 dont do that in our back, and i respect the fact that he admit he edit mpq, thats an honnest cheater hacker, compare to some other ones, because we all know there some other players who do this. My probleme with him is that he is an important part of that communauty, he also a popular streamer, he have lot of influence and since he realise it was clearly hacking, he was suppose to say, you know what, im sorry, dint think about all of those facts, and im gonna stop. Let's wait for a communauty software and let's show exemple. But he din't, he just try to act like peoples are retards because they can do it themself and it's not hacking and it's not a big deal.... He is an arrogant player that think only about himself, he came on the war2ru channel and spam us all day long with his strange language that is almost egiptian hieroglyph. I mean i can stand it when it's reasonable, but spamming all the channel whit his whole damn crew all day long is just so fucking frustrating, like he dont even cares about us..  The worst part is they know how to speak in english! But they dont want to be with us.... So yeah in a side of the medal i respect his honnesty, but in the other side, i prefere he do like all those cowards who hide it, because at least those cowards are not influencing people to do whatever they want like if we are right into the jungle with no rules. He always been an outlaws, it's nothing new, for 2 years he have totally ignore anti-hack and show that exemple to everyone.

So thats what is so drama about Tupac??? You are telling me that he found who she was on facebook and he threat to reveal it to the grand public? Are you serious bro, who fucking cares? The entire communauty is on facebook bro, i got tons of players in my facebook and mousetopher does too im pretty sure. I mean okay it's not cool, the kid got frustrated and he talkshit, he call her ugly and she hurt.....

God damn you know what?? There was a guy i will not mention here cuz he told me sorry lot of time since that time and i finally forgive  him.... But that guy also found some personal information like my picture, and he was drawing cock in my face and sperm and tears and lot of shit like that... He was also lying about my personal life, saying i was living with my father and i was beating him and stealing his money for a poker addiction. He literally did that for a years, harrassing me over and over for something that i was right, because at that time i have found that peoples were able to map hack us by using older bt net version of the game, and they were saying i was crazy and want to manipulate everyone and i was the hacker and all you can believe bro.... You know what??? Mousetopher was a part of the staff at that time and she was doing anything for that, nobody in the staff was absolutly doing anything about that.. So comming here today and telling me tupac threat mousetopher to reveal is public facebook and call her ugly, is not really affecting me at that point.

I still understand it's not right, and thats a bad behavior, but the fact is tupac have since show alot of respect to our communauty and offer lot of his precious help to us, im pretty sure he will be more then happy to explain himself about that probleme and resolve it compare to someone like u8 who just dont want to fix anything and keep act like a coward.


Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 08:41:23 PM
About mousetopher's departure from what I have read it indeed had nothing to do with Tupac:
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People going on and on on stupid drama instead of just playing and enjoying the game is likely what pushed mousey away, sadly I was not there when that shit took place but Drama queens certainly are one of the long time problems of our community.

Drama is bad for the game it is what pushes people away, we all want to play a game and if we let drama take a hold on things there is no space for the game anymore and all you get when you connect is angry faces and endless rants all over the place...

That is why it is not good to always keep that shit up, we need to know when to stop and just accept that we have our differences and move along and play the game.
After all we all love the game and that should be the one thing that brings us together.

No one comes online and wants to be dealing with drama 99% of the time, when you connect to a game you want to play and have fun and drama is a waste of time for everyone so that is why I am acting the way I do... I am not saying we should ignore issues I am saying we could try to minimize the effects they have on our fun and other's.

And dang I really miss mousetopher... Here was a person that always was ready to have some chill games for fun and that I never had any single problem with. She hopped into games and played and had fun no complaining no ranting just pure fun and happyness all around...

We all know why moustopher leave, she leave because Burnt get into rage mode, because Jordan and Swift was probably hacking him, then he literally get paranoid telling everybody they have kidnaping Van and put his ranch on fire.

And i dont say there was no other motivation for her to leave, but it was what that make her finally leave.

And probably the fact that i was telling her over and over to leave this game because that server dint deserve her, what is pretty true.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 29, 2020, 10:04:46 PM
He did not just search for her on facebook he used the ip he fished from the server as an admin to do that and go fishing by his own admission at the time...
As I said it is all on the forum history so you can have a look for yourself...

IL may not have the most time in the world to handle every and each of our problems, but at least I never saw him do these kind of things and he never showed such a dark side.
Now we already talked about this with Tupac I am not talking behind his back he knows all well where I stand for that exact matter.

His position is basically that IL is just as bad, from his perspective. I just spent a lot of time with IL lately and I will agree to disagree. Simply because IL already have shown much much better temper management in the first place and some strong positioning against cyber criminality of any source... Oh yes war2.ru is in very good hands, maybe not the most experienced hands there is out there but certainly good willed ones and I would rather have that than the other way around!
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Winchester on May 29, 2020, 10:25:12 PM
There was a guy i will not mention here cuz he told me sorry lot of time since that time and i finally forgive  him.... But that guy also found some personal information like my picture, and he was drawing cock in my face and sperm and tears and lot of shit like that... He was also lying about my personal life, saying i was living with my father and i was beating him and stealing his money for a poker addiction. He literally did that for a years, harrassing me over and over for something that i was right, because at that time i have found that peoples were able to map hack us by using older bt net version of the game, and they were saying i was crazy and want to manipulate everyone and i was the hacker and all you can believe bro.... You know what??? Mousetopher was a part of the staff at that time and she was doing anything for that, nobody in the staff was absolutly doing anything about that..

I can appreciate not wanting to mention my name after everything, but that's me. Though I never drew dicks with sperm on your face lol, Just the badly drawn blue tears picture, I didn't say you beat your father either, just that you stole money from him with the poker addiction while neglecting him when he is sick. Blid did ban me once or twice and mousey did mute me once too but not actually ban me. Not for very long though.

And to clarify on where i got the picture from, you posted  that picture of yourself, pirate and tyrus on the warcraft 2 occult forums, I just cut there faces out. i didn't go looking on your facebook or anything for pictures.

and our issue had nothing to do with the clients at all. our issue started a few months before all that began.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: O4L on May 29, 2020, 10:38:19 PM
There was a guy i will not mention here cuz he told me sorry lot of time since that time and i finally forgive  him.... But that guy also found some personal information like my picture, and he was drawing cock in my face and sperm and tears and lot of shit like that... He was also lying about my personal life, saying i was living with my father and i was beating him and stealing his money for a poker addiction. He literally did that for a years, harrassing me over and over for something that i was right, because at that time i have found that peoples were able to map hack us by using older bt net version of the game, and they were saying i was crazy and want to manipulate everyone and i was the hacker and all you can believe bro.... You know what??? Mousetopher was a part of the staff at that time and she was doing anything for that, nobody in the staff was absolutly doing anything about that..

I can appreciate not wanting to mention my name after everything, but that's me. Though I never drew dicks with sperm on your face lol, Just the badly drawn blue tears picture, I didn't say you beat your father either, just that you stole money from him with the poker addiction while neglecting him when he is sick. Blid did ban me once or twice and mousey did mute me once too but not actually ban me. Not for very long though.

And to clarify on where i got the picture from, you posted  that picture of yourself, pirate and tyrus on the warcraft 2 occult forums, I just cut there faces out. i didn't go looking on your facebook or anything for pictures.

and our issue had nothing to do with the clients at all. our issue started a few months before all that began.


lmao
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Winchester on May 29, 2020, 10:46:46 PM
It was hard to not laugh while writing that part lol
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 29, 2020, 11:03:19 PM
There was a guy i will not mention here cuz he told me sorry lot of time since that time and i finally forgive  him.... But that guy also found some personal information like my picture, and he was drawing cock in my face and sperm and tears and lot of shit like that... He was also lying about my personal life, saying i was living with my father and i was beating him and stealing his money for a poker addiction. He literally did that for a years, harrassing me over and over for something that i was right, because at that time i have found that peoples were able to map hack us by using older bt net version of the game, and they were saying i was crazy and want to manipulate everyone and i was the hacker and all you can believe bro.... You know what??? Mousetopher was a part of the staff at that time and she was doing anything for that, nobody in the staff was absolutly doing anything about that..

I can appreciate not wanting to mention my name after everything, but that's me. Though I never drew dicks with sperm on your face lol, Just the badly drawn blue tears picture, I didn't say you beat your father either, just that you stole money from him with the poker addiction while neglecting him when he is sick. Blid did ban me once or twice and mousey did mute me once too but not actually ban me. Not for very long though.

And to clarify on where i got the picture from, you posted  that picture of yourself, pirate and tyrus on the warcraft 2 occult forums, I just cut there faces out. i didn't go looking on your facebook or anything for pictures.

and our issue had nothing to do with the clients at all. our issue started a few months before all that began.

I cant remember all of those things because it's like 5 years ago, but what i remember is it all start because of the other client issue, because i found out that peoples was using other clients to hack us and Lightbringer- was one of them, and when i told him that people like him where using those client to hacks us and were also corrupting latency lag, he start to tell me i was crazy i had mental illness and i had to go hospital because he was the one who created that latency fix and there was no corruption at all... Then you start being crazy for him and harrassing me because of him and you keep your way for at least an antire year and it was also including the anti hack feud.
At the end we all found it was true when iL made a post about it and clearly announce to everyone i was right about it. 

Whatever, my point here and you totally know it, what you did to me was way much worst then what tupac did to mousetopher, if its even true, and they are acting like tupac is a monster and we cant forgive him while he clearly proof for the last years how he was sorry and ready to help us.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 30, 2020, 12:07:25 AM
About the Tupac redemption arc thing idk maybe Tupac did change his way feel free to give a try to his server if you want but I do not see what would make me want to even try...

Recent actions taken by the members of his server on the ru discord clearly show that they have not buried the hatchet just yet. And they are willing to go to extreme length to break what we have and benefit from active attacks on our server...

I used to be fine with these people lurking around and advertising their stuff but now this has been taking a whole different scale...

So long as their sole purpose of existence is going to be based around "RU SERVER BAD" They might just actually stay War2.ru's bitter shadow nothing more than a dirty pile of shit...
We may have disagreed upon dividing the player base in the first place but we never adopted a hostile stance toward them we never banned them, or even muted them, and now they clearly have shown us  they do not give a single shit about how good or bad their own actions make them look:

Saying the server is down but that their USA works as it was not even true yet, since the attack had not even properly started to get a toll yet and the server was still 100% responsive no dropped packages nothing for god sake...
How dishonest would you have to be to do this you think?
Here are the two options that may explain that behavior:
1) The guy just saw 300 users on the status page deduced the server was attacked and decided to try and make USA
 benefit from it,
2) The guy had his hands in very dirty waters and was aware the ddos was to take place.

Either way that is very not ok and these guys have crossed a dangerous line for the last time as far as I am concerned.
I would not have gotten involved into this if not for that one comment. This is just way off the charts. And not one excuse ever came in from these rats for these behaviors and spams taking place on our discord ever since...

Bare in mind I am not accusing them of being the ones doing the attacks as we do not know that yet, but I do accuse them of being worthless piles of shit due to their actions during and relative to these circumstances... Let them self claimed knights in shining armors 's actions talk for themselves who are the guys really looking bad now...

This is were ended our one sided friendly open arms relationship btw. They can keep hating us on their server but we are not going to support their rants and advertising on our discord anymore why should we allow anyone to try and destroy what we have?
You do not like RU? Fine! Be gone!
Why would you keep coming back if we are that terrible, no one needs you here... Come back the day you bury your stupid hatchets and until then.. good riddance...

BTW I am not often mad but this was really the last drop of bullshit I was willing to let go.

So no I would not recommend IL or any admin to start using the stuff they make ever but I am not and admin it is their choice in the end and I will respect what ever...
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Winchester on May 30, 2020, 12:49:40 AM
Our issues started before the client stuff. It was when you were getting /f a spammed and tk was on his first admin run before these this forum was made.  tk banned the guy who did it to you and you started abusing him saying he didn't ban him. i stood up for tk and told you that the guy was banned and changed his ip to by pass it, you then got abusive with me too, so after like the 10th time i had enough and fought back.

When the client stuff came around, i just kept making fun of your old history with hacking. our issues existed before that already.

Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 30, 2020, 12:54:30 AM
Our issues started before the client stuff. It was when you were getting /f a spammed and tk was on his first admin run before these this forum was made.  tk banned the guy who did it to you and you started abusing him saying he didn't ban him. i stood up for tk and told you that the guy was banned and changed his ip to by pass it, you then got abusive with me too, so after like the 10th time i had enough and fought back.

When the client stuff came around, i just kept making fun of your old history with hacking. our issues existed before that already.

Lie our feud start with lightbringer- bro.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Cel on May 30, 2020, 01:01:41 AM
SO Yeah basically we do not lack Drama on war2.ru that is pretty much an understatement :thumbsup:  :wc2:
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 30, 2020, 01:07:06 AM
SO Yeah basically we do not lack Drama on war2.ru that is pretty much an understatement :thumbsup:  :wc2:

Drama always will be in many different sphere of ur life, you must to learn to deal with that, if you cant handle drama then go on top of kilimanjaro with some peacefull boudism.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Winchester on May 30, 2020, 01:27:18 AM
Our issues started before the client stuff. It was when you were getting /f a spammed and tk was on his first admin run before these this forum was made.  tk banned the guy who did it to you and you started abusing him saying he didn't ban him. i stood up for tk and told you that the guy was banned and changed his ip to by pass it, you then got abusive with me too, so after like the 10th time i had enough and fought back.

When the client stuff came around, i just kept making fun of your old history with hacking. our issues existed before that already.

Lie our feud start with lightbringer- bro.

We were already feuding by that point because of my earlier statement, I did not play  lightbringer or talk to him unless he smurfed me, I only defended him from you because we were already feuding. Otherwise i would've left you two at it. the beginining of our feud started with you getting /f a spammed by someone and abusing tk over not banning the guy when it wasn't even an established rule yet, even though he did ban the guy until a rule was in place for /f a spamming people.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Nox on May 30, 2020, 01:33:16 AM
I know about who you talk, you talk about koorb, but for me it you was not even a big deal at the moment, you became a big deal for me when you decide to protect lightbringer.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: Winchester on May 30, 2020, 02:57:14 AM
Yeah, only started defending lightbringer because of what happened between us in the /f a spam thread.
Title: Re: New Grand Master
Post by: (PLS DELETE MY ACC) on May 30, 2020, 06:21:31 AM
About the Tupac redemption arc thing idk maybe Tupac did change his way feel free to give a try to his server if you want but I do not see what would make me want to even try...
YEAH I MEAN SURE TUPAC HAS DONE LOTS OF EVIL THINGS IN THE PAST. REDEMPTION? I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE HE CHANGED HIS WAYS WHEN EVERY OTHER POST HE MAKES CONTAINS VAGUE TREATS, SUCH AS "THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING" "DONT MAKE ME DO xxx"  "YOU WANT WAR?" AND WHATEVERS

IS THER ANY ADMIN THAT GOES TO THEIR FORUM/SERVER AND ADVERTISES RU? IF NOT, THEN WHY DO THEY KEEP CUMMIN HERE 8/

THIS COMMUNITY IS MEANT TO BE DOOMED. WE HAVE MAYBE 51 ACTIVE PLAYERS ACTIVELY FIGHTING EACH OTHER. AND 90% CONSISTS OF EX-HACKERS AND DDOSERS. MOST OF THE STABLE NORMIES SIMPLY MOVED ON....