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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Swift on July 31, 2019, 05:42:40 PM
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Warbux - You said you have a screen shot proving I hack. Please post it here or in whichever thread you want.
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@iL
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ok will do leme get it
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the man who showed me the SS ofr swift hackin on the status page next to his name it say "hack" or w.e it was in red .. when he gets on hes gonna resend it to me ill post it here
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the man who showed me the SS ofr swift hackin on the status page next to his name it say "hack" or w.e it was in red .. when he gets on hes gonna resend it to me ill post it here
YEP IT ONLY HAPPENED TO SWIFT AND THAT PBALL PLAYER... SMEAGOL(?)
GEEZ I WONDER WHY
I USED ALL KINDS OF TOOLS AND NONE OF 'EM EVER TRIGGERED IT
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I also wonder why Lance was the one to point it out....
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No "good" players hack anymore, swift defintaly doesnt hack just has a higher level of understanding of the game and can read and predict what you gonna do.
Only total newb scrubs hack these days, who could never hold them selfs even with hacks.
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the man who showed me the SS ofr swift hackin on the status page next to his name it say "hack" or w.e it was in red .. when he gets on hes gonna resend it to me ill post it here
Not the first time it happen lol
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anywho here it is
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hahaha this ss is gold.
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So now its official im the second best after swift. First time i see someone win vs me 1s
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for whatever reason the SS is so blurry i can't even read anything when i download it
when did this incident happen?
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for whatever reason the SS is so blurry i can't even read anything when i download it
when did this incident happen?
proly the time when it was a "false positive" all tho the way il explained it he had 0000's in the code an 0000's mean maps cleared
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for whatever reason the SS is so blurry i can't even read anything when i download it
when did this incident happen?
it's the goal dumb ass, they try to make fun at us.
But actually if you watch closely its really write Kyle, there only something before the Kyle name, i watch all Kyle name and i think its 00Kyle.
They actualy try to make fun at us, but they did it with a real screenshot and we still can see its 00Kyle.
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So its the old screen shot when kyle's name showed up on the anti hack, but @iL confirmed it was not an actual hack, but a false positive?
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So its the old screen shot when kyle's name showed up on the anti hack, but @iL confirmed it was not an actual hack, but a false positive?
Maybe or not, who know.
I actually think i was the one who take that screenshot.
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im jus doin what was asked of me .. but while were on the subject we should enforce anti hack.. people should be using it thats the whole point of having it
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So its the old screen shot when kyle's name showed up on the anti hack, but @iL confirmed it was not an actual hack, but a false positive?
went back an read that post .. and what il said was there was zeros in kyles code ... an from what i know if theres zeros that means the map is cleared meaning a program was used to view the map ... honest facts but w.e yall say idc jus enforce the anti hack
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It's not about anti hack it's about version of the game.
It always been the same probleme since day 1.
By allowing different version of bt net ru your allowing hacking and your allowing latency bug.
If you want to solve both of those probleme just sett everyone on the same version.
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link @ the thread where iL said that?
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men this link is way too old im not searching for that, but probably around 2016, 2017.
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Here's a clearer version of it - its from the former topic. http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1825.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1825.0.html)
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Nice try but it's not even the same ss, it mean you have been caught twice and that one warbux just send his a new one Lol
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i want the record to show that umm it was swift who made this post .. i was simply gonna send it to him on discord but he wanted a public hearing... really dont care for this drama i was over it yesterday when he got mad at van an decided to take it out on me lol either way we should use this topic to point out the real issue of so many people not running anti hack ... we have it for a reason i think it should be mandatory
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No, you said you were going to post it - I wanted to hold your feet to the fire on that, so I created the tread. Good job posting an SS that is years old, one that iL already dismissed as a false positive.
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either way we should use this topic to point out the real issue of so many people not running anti hack ... we have it for a reason i think it should be mandatory
iL dont want cuz the only way to sett everyone on anti hack his to sett everyone on the original version of war2ru.
But he dont want to do that cuz hes protecting the right of playing with our own version.
Because people cry about the fact they dont have music or they dont have ther own language.
But by allowing those different version peoples can also hacks and also corrupt the latency, so its unplayable for ressource management, and some peoples likes me really need ressource management to be good.
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No, you said you were going to post it - I wanted to hold your feet to the fire on that, so I created the tread. Good job posting an SS that is years old, one that iL already dismissed as a false positive.
YO WANA PLAY SOME SERIES ON RETARDED CUSTOMS? KOTR OR CHOP NO FARMZ? OR MAYBE FRIENDZ?
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I'll play friends.
I learned my lesson on Archers :blank:
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No, you said you were going to post it - I wanted to hold your feet to the fire on that, so I created the tread. Good job posting an SS that is years old, one that iL already dismissed as a false positive.
nope never said that i dont ever post petty shit on forums would never say that period .. but ofc u like to manipulate things per usual
an il said u had zeros in ur code zeros = hacks ... that false positive shit was cuz he felt bad that u got caught its politics imo
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you should have a memory contest with a gold fish
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From iL:
How my antihack works:
It reads the memory values known as used by hacks from war2 memory. Then it sends that values to the server. And then the server compares that values to "known clean war2 values" and reports HACK if differs.
For map hack known "clean" value = XX. "Hack" value = 00.
That's why when i see value 00 from someone i can definitely say that he activated maphack. When i see XX i can definitely say that maphack is not being activated for him.
But what if value changes from XX to anything else, like 02? I have no idea if the map will be open (as in maphack) or ok (as usual), but that definitely means something strange happens. Normally that value is ALWAYS XX. That's why that will also be reported as HACK.
Another question is, what happens if reading the memory value will cause error for some reason? I've been so stupid that i didn't check that properly until last update.
Technically, value possibly be sent to the server then is not defined, but that should be 00 most likely.
I still don't understand how that can happen that defined and existing memory data in existing process can be checked most of the time, but not in several moments.
Returning to the past:
xXxSmeagolxXx used previous version and i rechecked now:
All values have been changed from ok to 00. That could mean hack for maphack, but other values should be different.
I think that means antihack have not been able to read his memory values properly for some reason and then sent 00 instead. I classified that as hack. And i think i was wrong.
So i think that was false positive with xXxSmeagolxXx also.
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doesnt sound like politics. sounds like there are a lot of variables, and changing variables that he didnt account for when creating an anti-hack.
i personally have a hard time believing iL is lying about it. never known him to play politics in that manner.
and i've also never known any admins having problems with banning swift from server.
if i recall correctly, blid banned swift from the server for nearly a year at one point.. years ago.
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i think it's extremely inappropriate to publicly accuse any player of hacking without concrete proof, or at least a strong amount of evidence. which we haven't even had in the case of swift in over 8 years.
I will not say that swift does or does not hack. I wouldnt make a concrete claim about any player as to whether they hack or not. The fact is nobody knows until they know. Nobody knows if i hack or not. They can assume, but it means nothing.
I will say that swift has such a deep understanding of the game and mechanics that match his understanding that he doesn't need hacks. They wouldn't benefit him in any real sense.
Some people might not understand that claim.. but it is my opinion based on some experience that once you get to a certain level of mechanics/understanding you already know exactly what's going on, when it's going on, and where it's going on at every point of the game following the initial scout.
there are clues literally the entire game telling you what's going on if you know how to look for them.. and if you can find those clues and convert them into action that's war2 gold. swift is just better at finding those clues, interpreting them, and efficiently responding to those clues than most.
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i think it's extremely inappropriate
There's nothing more inappropriate than admins trying to score points off their fellow admins. Allowing others to control the narrative then joining in the complaint is not the job you're supposed to be doing.
I wouldnt make a concrete claim about any player as to whether they hack or not.
Seriously? You've never done that? ;D Nice TK triple-post.
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swift doenst hack he's that good
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my role 1 month ago was different than it is today.
as tk[as] non-admin i can talk all the shit i want, say whatever i want, accuse whoever i want.. troll... w/e
my role has changed. the shit i say/do now holds more weight imo.
nobody expected me to make accurate analysis 1 month ago... does that make sense?
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im not trying to score any points with any admins.
banning claw im sure had some admins questioning the decision. i was ready to catch hell for it.
im trying to say/do the right things in this position.. i'll get it wrong im sure from time to time. no doubt.
i think as an admin we're supposed to be more reserved and calculated in "serious" matters that could affect people's repuation on the server.
if swift or any other user were to get caught hacking, i'd have no problem hitting the ban button.. even if it were an [as] member...
i kicked my (at the time) favorite member out of [as] a few years back simply because he didnt take ss from someone who requested it. ali[as]. im against hacking.
im not defending someone i believe to be hacking... im defending someone that i personally don't believe is hacking .. but more importantly defending someone who has no evidence of him hacking in nearly a decade. i'd do it for swift, van, babyshark, or any other member.
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i think it's extremely inappropriate to publicly accuse any player of hacking without concrete proof, or at least a strong amount of evidence. which we haven't even had in the case of swift in over 8 years.
BUT THATS WHAT U DID TO ME IN OTHER THREAD COUPLE DAYZ AGO YOU FUCKING RETARD. NOT TO MENTION BANNING ME FOR SOME VAGUE "RACISM" STUFF WHEN THE THREAD WITH OUTRAGEOUS ACTS OF RACISM IS COMPLETELY IGNORED. NO CUMMENTS, NO WARNINGS THER? RETARDED BIASED POWER HUNGRY PIECE OF SHIT
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EVERYONE AROUND IS SAYING "NIGGER" ALL THE TIME AND ITS BEING IGNORED
YET WHEN I SAY "NIGGER" IM SURE ILL GET A WEEK BAN NOW. MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MIND YOU BIASED IDIOT
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im not trying to score any points with any admins ../.. im trying to say/do the right things in this position.. i'll get it wrong im sure from time to time. no doubt.
If you're serious then ask youself WTH you are even doing in this thread in the first place? Did someone ask for you to spam-post your opinion all over it? Was some moderation required? ... obviously not there was already an admin involved.
as tk[as] non-admin i can talk all the shit i want, say whatever i want, accuse whoever i want.. troll... w/e
my role has changed. the shit i say/do now holds more weight imo.
Dude you got admin cos you cried so long and hard when Warbux was made admin. Now as soon as someone takes a shot at him you pile on, uninvited and for no good reason. It seems your role is totally unchanged, except now your ego is inflated.
I always thought you were kind of ok, but this shit is transparent and weak as.
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Out of curiosity, if you had flyers all over the map so every part of it was visible would it say you hack?
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Claw you have literally shown me hacks you've created and I have evidence that you at the very least have distributed those hacks to other people.
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Out of curiosity, if you had flyers all over the map so every part of it was visible would it say you hack?
No
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I have no clue what ur talking about lamb
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Claw you have literally shown me hacks you've created and I have evidence that you at the very least have distributed those hacks to other people.
WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH ME USING THEM?
UNSURE IF U TALKIN ABOUT HAX OR BUGS. IM SURE YOU CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE
BAK IN 2013(?) I TRIED TO TEACH YOU ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF MAPHACKS BECAUSE I FELT SORRY FOR YOU. YOU WERE ADMIN BACK THEN AND TRIED TO ENFORCE VERY STRICT SS POLICIES OR SMTH, AND THOUGHT 'WARCRAP' AND MINES THAT WOULDNT DISAPPEAR FROM MINIMAP WAS UR BIGGEST WORRY.
ATTEMPTED TO POINT U IN RIGHT DIRECTION AND INSTEAD YOU THOUGHT YOURE SOME KIND OF GENIUS AND I "SPILLED THE BEANS" LOL
IF YOURE TALKING ABOUT DISTRIBUTING HAX, YES I TRIED TO TEACH SOMEONE MORE ABOUT HAX TOO. AND YES IT WAS AN ADMIN AS WELL.
MOST OF THE TIME I DISCUSSED HAX IDEAS/POSSIBILITIES WITH BLID @ OCCULT, IT WAS BAK WHEN HE WAS STILL ALIVE.
WHEN IL STARTED TO DEVELOP AH, I POINTED OUT TO HIM VIA PM THE MAJOR FLAW IN ITS DESIGN THAT WOULDNT CATCH THE ELITE MAPHAX.
THER IS NO GREATER HAX ENEMY THAN CAPTAIN CLAW THE INVINCIBLE
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THE ONLY HAX I USE IS DOUBLECLICK, BECAUSE ITS APPARENTLY LEGIT HERE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GAMING MICE THOUGH, ONLY COMPLETE RETARDS NEED HARDWARE TO AUTOMATE ANY ACTIONS, LET ALONE "DOUBLECLICK"
AND YOU STILL OWE ME 1 WEEK OF USING UNDETECTABLE MAPHACK, WHICH - IF I DO IT - WILL BE MENTIONED IN MY ACCOUNT NAME. HEY SWIFT IF U WANA KNOW MORE ABOUT ELITE UNDETECTABLE HAX LET ME KNOW
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NOW GET OFF MY BACK YOU POWER HUNGRY PATHETIC LUMMOX AND TAKE ACTION IN THE RACISM THREAD. OR FUKK OFF WHEN IM BEING RACIST,
CUZ YOU CANT HAVE BOTH (IGNORING ALL CASES OF RACISM BUT MINE, AND BANNING ME FOR RACISM AT THE SAME TIME)
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Everyone ive seen being blatantly racist on the server has been given a warning at first. A kick from server second.. and that's the furthest its gone.
You're the only one who has persisted beyond the first 2 steps of action.
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Everyone ive seen being blatantly racist on the server has been given a warning at first. A kick from server second.. and that's the furthest its gone.
You're the only one who has persisted beyond the first 2 steps of action.
NICE, I DID NOT KNOW THIS. SO I SHOULD REPORT ALL RACISM TO U IF I FEEL OFFENDED AND SUM ACTION WILL B TAKEN? I NO LIKE BEING CALLED 'WHITE TRASH'
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If someone is publicly displaying acts of blatant racism definitely let me know.
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Its obvious from your screen shots that the people you were trying to report were baited by you.. so its important to understand that reports coming from you will be taken with a grain of salt..
But I dont think that will stop you from trying with your ongoing attempts at bringing attention to yourself
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Its obvious from your screen shots that the people you were trying to report were baited by you.. so its important to understand that reports coming from you will be taken with a grain of salt..
But I dont think that will stop you from trying with your ongoing attempts at bringing attention to yourself
SO MY REPORTS DONT COUNT BECAUSE I WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. GOT IT. NOT BIASED
reports coming from you will be taken with a grain of salt..
But I dont think that will stop you from trying with your ongoing attempts at bringing attention to yourself
ALSO TOTALLY NOT BIASED YOU IDIOT
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Show me reports and we can go from there.
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From iL:
How my antihack works:
It reads the memory values known as used by hacks from war2 memory. Then it sends that values to the server. And then the server compares that values to "known clean war2 values" and reports HACK if differs.
For map hack known "clean" value = XX. "Hack" value = 00.
That's why when i see value 00 from someone i can definitely say that he activated maphack. When i see XX i can definitely say that maphack is not being activated for him.
But what if value changes from XX to anything else, like 02? I have no idea if the map will be open (as in maphack) or ok (as usual), but that definitely means something strange happens. Normally that value is ALWAYS XX. That's why that will also be reported as HACK.
Another question is, what happens if reading the memory value will cause error for some reason? I've been so stupid that i didn't check that properly until last update.
Technically, value possibly be sent to the server then is not defined, but that should be 00 most likely.
I still don't understand how that can happen that defined and existing memory data in existing process can be checked most of the time, but not in several moments.
Returning to the past:
xXxSmeagolxXx used previous version and i rechecked now:
All values have been changed from ok to 00. That could mean hack for maphack, but other values should be different.
I think that means antihack have not been able to read his memory values properly for some reason and then sent 00 instead. I classified that as hack. And i think i was wrong.
So i think that was false positive with xXxSmeagolxXx also.
i got to talk to il cuz thats actually not tru ... not to push this thing wit swift i dont care bout it .. but fact is 00 = revealed map i know that cuz i did sum tests my self .. when u change the code from 1's to 00's it reveals map an easycompany can also chime in on this ... we were messi nwit the codes tryna make a map for the lobby room an come to find out that same code also reveals the map when u change it from 11's to 00's in HxD while the game is running .. which is how the map hacking programs worked .. an yes the AH does catch it if its done .. but i think IL is incorrect bout the code being unkown if its 0's im gonna let him know when i speak to him on discord
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From iL:
How my antihack works:
It reads the memory values known as used by hacks from war2 memory. Then it sends that values to the server. And then the server compares that values to "known clean war2 values" and reports HACK if differs.
For map hack known "clean" value = XX. "Hack" value = 00.
That's why when i see value 00 from someone i can definitely say that he activated maphack. When i see XX i can definitely say that maphack is not being activated for him.
But what if value changes from XX to anything else, like 02? I have no idea if the map will be open (as in maphack) or ok (as usual), but that definitely means something strange happens. Normally that value is ALWAYS XX. That's why that will also be reported as HACK.
Another question is, what happens if reading the memory value will cause error for some reason? I've been so stupid that i didn't check that properly until last update.
Technically, value possibly be sent to the server then is not defined, but that should be 00 most likely.
I still don't understand how that can happen that defined and existing memory data in existing process can be checked most of the time, but not in several moments.
Returning to the past:
xXxSmeagolxXx used previous version and i rechecked now:
All values have been changed from ok to 00. That could mean hack for maphack, but other values should be different.
I think that means antihack have not been able to read his memory values properly for some reason and then sent 00 instead. I classified that as hack. And i think i was wrong.
So i think that was false positive with xXxSmeagolxXx also.
i got to talk to il cuz thats actually not tru ... not to push this thing wit swift i dont care bout it .. but fact is 00 = revealed map i know that cuz i did sum tests my self .. when u change the code from 1's to 00's it reveals map an easycompany can also chime in on this ... we were messi nwit the codes tryna make a map for the lobby room an come to find out that same code also reveals the map when u change it from 11's to 00's in HxD while the game is running .. which is how the map hacking programs worked .. an yes the AH does catch it if its done .. but i think IL is incorrect bout the code being unkown if its 0's im gonna let him know when i speak to him on discord
I WONDER IF WAR2OBSERVE CAN INTERFERE WITH IT?