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Title: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 11, 2015, 02:55:16 AM
I sense the overwhelming feelings of apathy. Everything around here is stagnant with one exception of smeagols efforts to revive/unite pball community and his pball tournaments. Anti-hack? that's been talked about for months. hardware ban? No, let's have dellam, the notorious hacker of several years who ruined more games than we can count and discouraged tons of players from playing, 'help' and criticize everyone for weeks instead.

I say we give iL a deadline for those two projects - anti-hack and hardware ban. If it doesn't get done, somebody else, be it lance, tupac or whoever, should start their own server and i, for one, will gladly join there
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Nox on August 11, 2015, 04:15:57 AM
I sense the overwhelming feelings of apathy. Everything around here is stagnant with one exception of smeagols efforts to revive/unite pball community and his pball tournaments. Anti-hack? that's been talked about for months. hardware ban? No, let's have dellam, the notorious hacker of several years who ruined more games than we can count and discouraged tons of players from playing, 'help' and criticize everyone for weeks instead.

I say we give iL a deadline for those two projects - anti-hack and hardware ban. If it doesn't get done, somebody else, be it lance, tupac or whoever, should start their own server and i, for one, will gladly join there

Only repeating everything i said since 1 year now, your suppose to eat their ass actually.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 11, 2015, 04:19:35 AM
go away, you trash. this is a real thread, not a eq-winchester thread. See flame wars for details
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Nox on August 11, 2015, 04:24:20 AM
go away, you trash. this is a real thread, not a eq-winchester thread. See flame wars for details

No seriously?? You think everything you bring here is new and brillant? They dont fucking cares, they all gonna spit in your face and actually gonna put you in my side..

Telling you how your retard and make no sens.

Actually your really make no sens, licking staff balls for a year and now bring the accusation against them.

Your like a prostitute, selling your ass everywhere.

Make me laugh actor.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 11, 2015, 04:34:40 AM
go away, you trash. this is a real thread, not a eq-winchester thread. See flame wars for details
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 11, 2015, 05:35:47 AM
I sense the overwhelming feelings of apathy. Everything around here is stagnant with one exception of smeagols efforts to revive/unite pball community and his pball tournaments. Anti-hack? that's been talked about for months. hardware ban? No, let's have dellam, the notorious hacker of several years who ruined more games than we can count and discouraged tons of players from playing, 'help' and criticize everyone for weeks instead.

I say we give iL a deadline for those two projects - anti-hack and hardware ban. If it doesn't get done, somebody else, be it lance, tupac or whoever, should start their own server and i, for one, will gladly join there


Only repeating everything i said since 1 year now, your suppose to eat their ass actually.


Lol, that last part did make me laugh EQ because it is true...this guy practically sleeps with the administration to get his own way and avoid the rules. Cries victim when he's caught breaking the rules and bitches to avoid punishment.

"No, let's have dellam, the notorious hacker of several years who ruined more games than we can count and discouraged tons of players from playing, 'help' and criticize everyone for weeks instead."

Now we have here CLAW, a retarded account thief who was dumb enough to log onto Dellam's account and get banned by Lightbringer-. Then, publicly cry about how his banishment was unfair and continued to bitch until his ban was overturned, his reason for logging onto Dellam's account? "Because he's human and couldn't resist" Lmfao...[emoji23]

" say we give iL a deadline for those two projects - anti-hack and hardware ban. If it doesn't get done, somebody else, be it lance, tupac or whoever, should start their own server and i, for one, will gladly join there"

I would say 2 weeks to purpose a plan to actually get more people on the server. A anti hack and hardware ban alone is not going to bring back people.

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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 11, 2015, 06:22:06 AM
I would say 2 weeks to purpose a plan to actually get more people on the server. A anti hack and hardware ban alone is not going to bring back people.
no you dumb cunt, but it would certainly help to not have hackers around. a normal person will absolutely abandon any old-ass game if the first thing they saw was dellam

im waiting for lance / tupac response, because i believe theyre capable and willing to start their own server if this one is 'dead'/'abandoned'. If any of them responds, we shall set a reasonable deadline, be it one month, two or w/e, and then start another server with admins that are alive. No more 'splitting the community' bullshit, because theres nothing to split anymore
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: dellam on August 11, 2015, 06:25:07 AM
They won't do it nobody follows through on anything around here I gave up trying to help


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 11, 2015, 07:14:18 AM
and here i am, scrolling through the likes of dellam, ryu and equinox.
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 11, 2015, 07:29:32 AM
and here i am, scrolling through the likes of dellam, ryu and equinox.

Still a better audience than yourself.

Go play victim some more.

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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 11, 2015, 07:38:02 AM

I would say 2 weeks to purpose a plan to actually get more people on the server. A anti hack and hardware ban alone is not going to bring back people.
no you dumb cunt, but it would certainly help to not have hackers around. a normal person will absolutely abandon any old-ass game if the first thing they saw was dellam

im waiting for lance / tupac response, because i believe theyre capable and willing to start their own server if this one is 'dead'/'abandoned'. If any of them responds, we shall set a reasonable deadline, be it one month, two or w/e, and then start another server with admins that are alive. No more 'splitting the community' bullshit, because theres nothing to split anymore

IL is capable of doing anything, he's just slow at it...coupled with useless Admins is a recipe for disaster...

I would say Lance would be faster at implementing projects, but we still need a way to attract or bring back old players...without that it doesn't matter who hosts the server lol just another dead space.


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: dellam on August 11, 2015, 07:52:13 AM
See what I mean .
Point proven


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: iL on August 11, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
I sense the overwhelming feelings of apathy.
Same for me now.
All these game-dying talkings turn me into depression also.
I'm tired of that, no hunger to release that as soon as possible. Same for others as i see that. I hope things will be turned back soon. It's cyclic: period of activity, then period of apathy. Then activity again.

Anti-hack?
In addition to apathy you talking here:
I see some problems with antihack, still not clear for me, that's why i slow that down. I still hope to resolve the problems soon...

somebody else, be it lance, tupac or whoever, should start their own server and i, for one, will gladly join there
Sure, let them do. I never protest if someone try to do something himself.
Their own server or their own antihack or w/e.

Anyone feel free to start his own antihack, share it to others and let them use it if they trust him.
There have been several antihack solutions, but no one looked like final release.

Of course anybody fell free to setup his own server, just not sure if the community will move there.

Our main problem is everybody talks about to do something but nobody (almost nobody) do something.
Even the easiest task: host bot have not been released by anyone for years until i made it myself last summer.
Another task: cases ladder or enhanched ladder: of course anyone feel free fo release it, but nobody do it.

Equinox

Equinox cries about bad admins and dying server last 8 months, but didn't do something positive. He tried his own forum but it have been empty. He tried his own UWC league, but it have been empty. He tried his UWC league here, but it looks abandoned now and he cries that admins are guilty of all his problems.

Some other persons (like $pace) tried something, but people didn't trust them, so their servers have been empty.

If any of them responds, we shall set a reasonable deadline, be it one month, two or w/e, and then start another server with admins that are alive.
BTW, what's wrong with current SERVER? Antihack, HW protection are foreign services not quite related to server, so i'm about active admins here. What are their tasks to be online all the time?
To move stats and set icons, that's ok. Anything else? Our rules allows everything except hacking and cheating now, so what to moderate here?
Moderators will not help against DDoS or other attacks, banning cheaters is not something they can do effectively. So, do we need any moderators here generally? Only to transfer stats/setting icons? We can just setup bots for that actions and forget about moderators. Do we need any other admins/mods here?
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 11, 2015, 11:09:20 AM
this thread was obviously to try to motivate you iL, lol
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 11, 2015, 11:22:26 AM
this thread was obviously to try to motivate you iL, lol
not sure if youre being sarcastic or not, but i dont consider myself one of those 'omfg server is dead wtf lol' clowns. the posts that followed, mostly eq, are a different story though.

it was merely an observation. Anti-hack was discussed together with the "to close or not to close the other clients" thread, where some of us believed it will be done within a reasonable period of time. Month after month its delayed, nowadays its not even discussed anymore. i remember hardware ban being a cherry on top and i dont think its that hard to do... especially since it has already been done by lance and he claims to help iL via PM :P
a deadline, 1 - 2 - 3 months, well anything, is better and will be something we will look forward to. You cant expect us to wait forever with little noticeable progress for something that may not even happen while accusing us of 'splitting the community' any time somebody tries to take matters into their own hands

as for admins/mods, i wasnt criticizing anybody in particular, 'admins that are alive' was a figure of speech representing general activity and progress
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 11, 2015, 12:04:23 PM
Well that's why I voted to close the hackable client and urged other people to do so, because there was never any sure way to know if we'd have an anti-hack in a reasonable amount of time after.

I'm not accusing you of having a bad attitude or anything, but my interpretation is that you starting this thread pitching the idea to move servers if action wasn't taken was because you hoped it would get iL moving and that maybe he works better under deadlines :P
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 11, 2015, 12:26:49 PM
Well that's why I voted to close the hackable client and urged other people to do so, because there was never any sure way to know if we'd have an anti-hack in a reasonable amount of time after.

I'm not accusing you of having a bad attitude or anything, but my interpretation is that you starting this thread pitching the idea to move servers if action wasn't taken was because you hoped it would get iL moving and that maybe he works better under deadlines :P


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 11, 2015, 12:35:19 PM
I serve the realm.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 11, 2015, 12:44:54 PM
IL is working hard on the anti hack you don't want it rushed. Starting a new server is easy but we start from the drawing boards again.

You really can't rush the anti hack and server side work. We need those to be secure. I am learning C++ to make work easier for il.

We all have family and work. But some how I still find myself up all night developing and reversing. To make the anti hack stronger.

IL is a strong guy because he still continues to work on these projects instead of just shutting down.

Thanks again iL!
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 11, 2015, 12:54:55 PM

I serve the realm.

Oh ok nothing, thought so...[emoji19]


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 11, 2015, 01:42:28 PM

I serve the realm.

Oh ok nothing, thought so...[emoji19]


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: {Lance} on August 11, 2015, 02:18:19 PM
I already put together everything listed in this thread (except a hostbot),  antihack, hardware ban, ladders, user customizable icons, clans, observer features, and a shit ton of other things and compiled it into war2.us.  No one trusted it because Ldir wouldnt acknowledge it or cooperate with it, thus, no one switched.  That could have easily been resolved by Ldir simply working with me and pointing his domains at my servers (which I did approach him about several times only to get no response what so ever).  That never happened, thus the switch was never possible.  Without this kind of cooperation from iL or whoever owns the war2.ru domain (that would be Ldir still,  iL is just borrowing it as far as I'm aware),  a second, third, fourth, etc server will do absolutely nothing.  Mouse's server is evidence of that.  It runs perfectly fine........ yet no one uses it even though it has every feature that RU has plus it has more stable hosting servers.  Until someone realizes that problem,  theres nothing I or anyone else can do about it.  That's something I've mentioned for many many years now.  iL is FAR more capable than Ldir in every possible way.  I still think he can put together everything I'd done,  but it's not likely going to be on nearly as fast of a time table as I'd done it.  Some people think that just because I was able to whip all that together in 2 months,  that iL could do it in that amount of time as well.  That's just not the case because iL is not Lance.  The circumstances,  experience, etc are just not the same.  Maybe he works at his job more than I do and doesnt have the time.  Or maybe he doesnt have as much experience and is just slower, thus taking more time,  etc.   Whatever the case,  I still think it's best to give him time to finish the projects that he has started.  If he cant,  well,  maybe,  just maybe, he would work with someone like myself or tupac.....  but dont bet on it.  The past has shown that just wont ever happen under any circumstance.  Thus, the only way I'd ever set up a server again is if iL or Ldir asked me directly if I would do so.  Because without their cooperation, it would be completely pointless.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Nox on August 12, 2015, 03:31:51 AM

Equinox

Equinox cries about bad admins and dying server last 8 months, but didn't do something positive. He tried his own forum but it have been empty. He tried his own UWC league, but it have been empty. He tried his UWC league here, but it looks abandoned now and he cries that admins are guilty of all his problems.


Your full of shit dude, my forum never work because nobody of you have try to help me telling me it gonna kill that game if we split community between different forums.

Then i made UWC and here again nobody help me, except moustopher for the forum creation part of UWC, Burnt try to host UWC one time and dint ever host it again when he realise how much work it was.

I also ask them to make publicity about the league on the main web site of war2ru and nobody never did it, i ask to be admin to did it by myself and nobody did it.

You guys are just a fucking bunch of retard selfish admin who try to control everything and take us as a joke..

Everything we told you is like words in the air, you only listen what you want and dint for what you want.

Ive made everything for this game, take time for peoples, made popular maps for them and mix pro players with custom player, made league, made forum, made banner, desing, strategies.

Telling me ive done nothing for this game is just a part of your fake ass bitch you are.

Your all there trying to act like if your the best admin ever and everything you said are the right choice, but the truth is all the decision you take are the most pathetic choice admins have ever take in warcaft II history.

you have never close the hacking client and openly let people hack for a years, i told you it gonna take a year to take that anti hack out and it probably not even gonna work, actually i was right again, no seriously, actually EVERYTHING of what i said was right!

Like instead to fire lightbringer youve fired tk, instead of listen us, your litening dellam, i mean dude, just gtfo.

Yes im the bad guy, im the bad guy since im french and i cant explain all my point properly, but i did it because warcraft II deserve more then all of your stupid lazy admins.

This game is diying and you even try to sell icon 50$ into a community of 100 players..

Your guys are just a fucking joke, everything you done is a joke.

you want to help this game, sincerly?? fucking sell it to tk and get the fuck out of here since you can add the good admins for this gam ( LIKE ME ) because you cant stand to work with someone who have different opinion then you ( LIKE ME AGAIN )

Your selfish ass who want to control everything and cockblock what this game deserve have kill this game for the last ten years.

You cant even update your own website for the last 6 month dude, you have no creativity and no marketing game.

Im sorry, but someone have to told you truth.

Now never said my name again stupid punk ass who cant even speak like a men with me when its time to face your probleme.

Little dumb ass lazy bitch.

Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on August 12, 2015, 12:02:50 PM
IL please give the server to lance. The numbers are continuing to drop and your new hosting provider Is a huge failure and is ruining what little there is left of the player base. war2 us was the most awesome thing for war2 ever and I was so sad when it wasn't supported due to retarded personal fueds and egos.

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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: iL on August 12, 2015, 05:55:07 PM
IL please give the server to lance. The numbers are continuing to drop and your new hosting provider Is a huge failure and is ruining what little there is left of the player base. war2 us was the most awesome thing for war2 ever and I was so sad when it wasn't supported due to retarded personal fueds and egos.
Well, that was not my decision to run away from Lance's server. I remember the first step of that when Ldir changed DNS records emergency to run away from Lance after he intercepted cotrol totally. I also remember some dirty tricks like lastest version of bnet gateways that changed every time players joined Lance's server or faked combat.
I believe Lance turned to light and that he is a good guy now, but that should not be my decision.
Let's talk to admins (Burnt mainly) and community, that's depends on what they think about that.

I also remember war2.us project, community rejected it, but i didn't tell anything about it. I wasn't able to recommend it as soon as i had no source code of war2 custom and trojans could be quite possible there.
So the main question is if community can trust Lance (or $pace) or not.

Your full of shit dude, my forum never work because nobody of you have try to help me telling me it gonna kill that game if we split community between different forums.
And yes, i agree that splitting the community gonna kill the game.
But if you're so respected leader, that would be easy to you to get the whole community to your forum.

Then i made UWC and here again nobody help me, except moustopher for the forum creation part of UWC, Burnt try to host UWC one time and dint ever host it again when he realise how much work it was.

I also ask them to make publicity about the league on the main web site of war2ru and nobody never did it, i ask to be admin to did it by myself and nobody d
Mousetopher created all the subforum you asked, all other admins accepted that also.
We welcome any initiatives with war2 promotion. We didn't took active part in your UWC league bacause it's your project and you are the main leader there, but we tried to do what you need for that.
I hope main web page is not the main reason of your league fault.

Ive made everything for this game, take time for peoples, made popular maps for them and mix pro players with custom player, made league, made forum, made banner, desing, strategies.

Telling me ive done nothing for this game is just a part of your fake ass bitch you are.
I believe your intentions were the best, but i don't agree with many of them. Who can judge who was right? What to do here? What would you do if you were me and disagree with my ideas?
I don't protest against creating subforums, clans, tournaments or w/e, but i protest against things could be destructive on my point of view.
Like closing client with no obvious catching cheaters and with additional problems for some ordinary users.

I listen everyone and welcome any ideas which are not harmful for server and community as for me.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on August 12, 2015, 06:12:10 PM
I'm not accusing anyone, but I've heard war2.us or whatever, Space and Lances wc2 version was full of viruses. I heard at the time and after that it had a trojan that was a keylogger and would take control of your keyboard, mic, camera, everything. I don't know if it was true but that is what I heard different times, I was also told if you still had a copy of that program you can upload it to a site and see the viruses/trojans still. I don't know what to believe and didn't then, and if it is true I agree with Il that Lance seems to truly want to help wc2 now. Everything I heard about war2.us was good, I heard it had a custom ladder and other cool stuff at the time. Il is right though everyone thought it had trojans that would key log your comp at the time.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on August 12, 2015, 06:19:13 PM
I'm not accusing anyone, but I've heard war2.us or whatever, Space and Lances wc2 version was full of viruses. I heard at the time and after that it had a trojan that was a keylogger and would take control of your keyboard, mic, camera, everything. I don't know if it was true but that is what I heard different times, I was also told if you still had a copy of that program you can upload it to a site and see the viruses/trojans still. I don't know what to believe and didn't then, and if it is true I agree with Il that Lance seems to truly want to help wc2 now. Everything I heard about war2.us was good, I heard it had a custom ladder and other cool stuff at the time. Il is right though everyone thought it had trojans that would key log your comp at the time.
Hahaha that's nonsense.  I used the war2 us client for a while on ru as it fixed my hosting and it was totally clean.

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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on August 12, 2015, 06:21:23 PM
It may be nonsense there were viruses in it, it's however not nonsense that was the consensus of the community at the time. It was all over it had viruses at the time, like I Said I was never sure though.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: iL on August 12, 2015, 06:24:41 PM
I heard at the time and after that it had a trojan that was a keylogger and would take control of your keyboard, mic, camera, everything.
I'd say it's a difference between "it had" and "it would have". The truth is any program would have a trojan (not detectable by any known antivirus), the question is your level of trust to developer. You basically trust big corporations (like Microsoft or Google), you basically don't trust to suspicious persons like Lance have been before. That's why we warned people that his software WOULD have some kind of malware as soon as we had some experience with him before.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Nox on August 12, 2015, 06:36:27 PM
IL please give the server to lance. The numbers are continuing to drop and your new hosting provider Is a huge failure and is ruining what little there is left of the player base. war2 us was the most awesome thing for war2 ever and I was so sad when it wasn't supported due to retarded personal fueds and egos.
Well, that was not my decision to run away from Lance's server. I remember the first step of that when Ldir changed DNS records emergency to run away from Lance after he intercepted cotrol totally. I also remember some dirty tricks like lastest version of bnet gateways that changed every time players joined Lance's server or faked combat.
I believe Lance turned to light and that he is a good guy now, but that should not be my decision.
Let's talk to admins (Burnt mainly) and community, that's depends on what they think about that.

I also remember war2.us project, community rejected it, but i didn't tell anything about it. I wasn't able to recommend it as soon as i had no source code of war2 custom and trojans could be quite possible there.
So the main question is if community can trust Lance (or $pace) or not.

Your full of shit dude, my forum never work because nobody of you have try to help me telling me it gonna kill that game if we split community between different forums.
And yes, i agree that splitting the community gonna kill the game.
But if you're so respected leader, that would be easy to you to get the whole community to your forum.

Then i made UWC and here again nobody help me, except moustopher for the forum creation part of UWC, Burnt try to host UWC one time and dint ever host it again when he realise how much work it was.

I also ask them to make publicity about the league on the main web site of war2ru and nobody never did it, i ask to be admin to did it by myself and nobody d
Mousetopher created all the subforum you asked, all other admins accepted that also.
We welcome any initiatives with war2 promotion. We didn't took active part in your UWC league bacause it's your project and you are the main leader there, but we tried to do what you need for that.
I hope main web page is not the main reason of your league fault.

Ive made everything for this game, take time for peoples, made popular maps for them and mix pro players with custom player, made league, made forum, made banner, desing, strategies.

Telling me ive done nothing for this game is just a part of your fake ass bitch you are.
I believe your intentions were the best, but i don't agree with many of them. Who can judge who was right? What to do here? What would you do if you were me and disagree with my ideas?
I don't protest against creating subforums, clans, tournaments or w/e, but i protest against things could be destructive on my point of view.
Like closing client with no obvious catching cheaters and with additional problems for some ordinary users.

I listen everyone and welcome any ideas which are not harmful for server and community as for me.

I got one question for you? Did have we been patien with you? How much years we said nothing? 9 Years? Maybe more?

And since how much years we only stand around 30 players regulary on the lobby client?

Why can't we reach a high number in the thousand like any other game since the last ten years?

Do you dont realize the probleme is comming from you and your staff?

Why are you blaming peoples who dint even own you nothing? But still try to help this server for no reason, im not even an admin, im not the one who have to do everything ive done for this server even IF they fail! But i still did it? Now just realize everything ive done by myself without help of nobody and cant even have the proper tool to do it.

If i was admin it will be so much easier for me to do everything i need.

But your an idiot, your fucking doing nothing usefull, ive told you since 6 month ago, your slow, your working on retard project we dont even need, i told you, its gonna take a year, and probably not even working.. But you still did it like a SUPER CHAMPION!!! COM onnn.... you let peoples hack for a total year and destroy everything we was trying to do, me, tk, ganz, yourself, and all your staff and MORES!!! And All of this get worst because you decide to take part in a tk lightbringer story... Because you know lightbringer is the one who manipulate you since start and your not enouph brillant to realize it.

Seriously dude, i will always said it, much respect for everything you done, but your not anymore qualifie to be an admin, your a programmar, other peoples have to take decision and you have to help with programmation about these decision.

Ten years, 30 players, it not me, its not dellam, its not Knitterhemd, its nobody except you and your own decisions!



Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: tora is a simp bitch for billionaires on August 12, 2015, 08:17:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sPaI2S5.gifv (http://i.imgur.com/sPaI2S5.gifv)

accurate depiction of the fighters  against the death of war2, the pole is the death.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 12, 2015, 08:58:05 PM
i don't think we need to relive the lance server debate again now.  it may have been safe and amazing, nobody ever found out anything to the contrary, but lance was not a trusted figure in the community in any way at that time.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on August 12, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
i don't think we need to relive the lance server debate again now.  it may have been safe and amazing, nobody ever found out anything to the contrary, but lance was not a trusted figure in the community in any way at that time.
He is now tho in my mind and il's as well.

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Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 12, 2015, 10:43:40 PM
Lance for server president! [emoji16]


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: {Lance} on August 13, 2015, 01:12:33 AM
That's why we warned people that his software WOULD have some kind of malware as soon as we had some experience with him before.

This is why people did not switch.  Like I mentioned back then and now,  it never had any virus/trojans etc.  Those rumors were all from the Admins of RU.  None of it was ever true.  Tupac also jumped on the bandwagon as well, spouting virus this and that, but it was all just non-sense.  RU admins did it in an attempt to get people to stay with RU and Tupac did it because he was mad at me at the time over I dont remember what.  The bottom line is that the "FUD" was large.  If you look at the past posts by both Myself and $pace you'll see us use the FUD term a lot.  Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 13, 2015, 01:31:11 AM
That's why we warned people that his software WOULD have some kind of malware as soon as we had some experience with him before.

This is why people did not switch.  Like I mentioned back then and now,  it never had any virus/trojans etc.  Those rumors were all from the Admins of RU.  None of it was ever true.  Tupac also jumped on the bandwagon as well, spouting virus this and that, but it was all just non-sense.  RU admins did it in an attempt to get people to stay with RU and Tupac did it because he was mad at me at the time over I dont remember what.  The bottom line is that the "FUD" was large.  If you look at the past posts by both Myself and $pace you'll see us use the FUD term a lot.  Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.

Wrong it was actually bad timing. I had made a thread about what some file did, you assumed i was calling it a virus. Then i was like fuck it lets face the facts it auto updated... legit now backdoor later. But it just went all out hand from their.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 13, 2015, 01:54:50 AM
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I can't wait for custom to take over. Once I gain full control, I'm going to cast you along with the war2 council into the abyss. People will wonder why one day 5 people just disappeared, then they'll just forget and not question it haahahaha
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 13, 2015, 02:23:40 AM

...Tupac did it because he was mad at me at the time over I dont remember what...

Lol, he can get emotional at times. [emoji58]




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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on August 13, 2015, 09:42:51 AM
That's why we warned people that his software WOULD have some kind of malware as soon as we had some experience with him before.

This is why people did not switch.  Like I mentioned back then and now,  it never had any virus/trojans etc.  Those rumors were all from the Admins of RU.  None of it was ever true.  Tupac also jumped on the bandwagon as well, spouting virus this and that, but it was all just non-sense.  RU admins did it in an attempt to get people to stay with RU and Tupac did it because he was mad at me at the time over I dont remember what.  The bottom line is that the "FUD" was large.  If you look at the past posts by both Myself and $pace you'll see us use the FUD term a lot.  Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.

Wrong it was actually bad timing. I had made a thread about what some file did, you assumed i was calling it a virus. Then i was like fuck it lets face the facts it auto updated... legit now backdoor later. But it just went all out hand from their.
Now is good timing with the server population in free fall and the server hosting issues.

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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: {Lance} on August 13, 2015, 12:45:27 PM
Wrong it was actually bad timing. I had made a thread about what some file did, you assumed i was calling it a virus. Then i was like fuck it lets face the facts it auto updated... legit now backdoor later. But it just went all out hand from their.


Aww come on now Tupac at least be a LITTLE honest :)  You were simply upset that I made a mockery of your "discoveries".  And yes, you did actually mention that it was a "trojan" first.  You tried to beat us up over the use of DLL's because at the time you didnt understand how they work (dllhost.exe & rundll.exe).  Then when I explained it all even using "letMeGoogleThatForYou",  you got all upset and your panties in a wad and things just went sideways from there.  I guess you dont like being embarrassed in a public forum.  But then again, I guess not many people do.

"Whats up with all the extra exe's? This looks dangerous. Taskill.exe maybe a old color fix. unknown executable image hmmmmm... rundll32 why you messing with system files injection of trojan?? Wtf is the dllhost.exe?"   <--  Notice where you mentioned Trojan.  This is what started it all as far as your accusations anyway.  The reply that followed,  tore your "findings" to shreds.  You can read it here:  http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=444055&sid=812a7eb31fe9bb645c320f972387bb58 (http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=444055&sid=812a7eb31fe9bb645c320f972387bb58)

I will admit though, I had a shit ton of fun making fun of you that day.  I nearly died laughing that you didnt understand how DLL's worked heh.  But now that time has passed,  I think you understand it more and thats why you're trying to backtrack on what was actually said ;)
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 13, 2015, 12:48:05 PM
Wrong it was actually bad timing. I had made a thread about what some file did, you assumed i was calling it a virus. Then i was like fuck it lets face the facts it auto updated... legit now backdoor later. But it just went all out hand from their.

I will admit though, I had a shit ton of fun making fun of you that day.  I nearly died laughing that you didnt understand how DLL's worked heh.

Lmao...Tupac did talk a lot of shit back then [emoji23]...I remember this haha. Good thing is he doesn't talk out of his ass as much now [emoji6]

But I think all sane people knew that there were no malicious files in your program...all defaming chatter brought up by trolls and former/semi trolls.


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 13, 2015, 01:00:55 PM
No you all missed the point and I didn't explain well enough.

I made a thread about war2 being infected. I was asking what those dll's are for???

That all was the second thread.

So I made a thread on the old forums about this. Wake up the next day the forums went down for a week or so...

So In my head it's looked like you did something to cover up my topic..... turn to find out it was the host issues why the forums was down and an old backup went up making my thread never exist........

Also I did send your whole installer to an av company and I was told it could be infected now but doubts it was. But it could be anytime if you wanted to infect us because auto update could easily do it.

So when some one steps on your shoes you could have full access to their pcs.


But once I opened my mouth and started asking questions you and your buddies deemed me as calling it a virus.. which your wrong. I said it clean now but will it be later.

Maybe you all laughed because of my questions. But lance new they where accurate.

Make that exe appear now and I will reverse and prove my point.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: {Lance} on August 13, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
Here you go.  It wasnt that difficult to find :)

https://web.archive.org/web/20130625032153/http://war2.us/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20130625032153/http://war2.us/)

Hell it's even timestamped by wayback machine for ya ;)  You wont find anything different than what you found before which is a lot of DLL use and an autoupdating feature that is no different than iL's autoupdater.  It may even have the hardware banning features in it if you're lucky.  I dont remember what date I had completed those on.  Wayback machine doesnt have EVERY day backups, but this is the "latest" that it has I believe.  BTW,  if you upload it to an AV site for scanning, you'll notice that it has the exact same "threats" that war2combat has.  It does this because of the memory manipulations of the war2patcher and war2nocdloader files.  I think you brought up the AV notices before, but you never bothered to compare it to War2Combat which has the exact same warnings.  I think back then you had tried to use VirusTotal or some such nonsense like that.  That's probably the "company" you're mentioning.  Which is not a company at all, its just an online upload tool for scanning single files.  It's about as useful as used shit paper IMO.

Ahh yep, it was virustotal that you used.  It even shows your first attempt :)

This file was last analysed by VirusTotal on 2014-02-08 12:43:14 UTC (1 year, 6 months ago) it was first analysed by VirusTotal on 2013-07-04 19:35:59 UTC.

Detection ratio: 0/48

You can take a look at the last analysis or analyse it again now.
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 13, 2015, 01:09:50 PM
...

Make that exe appear now and I will reverse and prove my point.

As you do with most of your opinions, you fickle. [emoji11]


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 13, 2015, 01:25:01 PM
Here you go.  It wasnt that difficult to find :)

[url]https://web.archive.org/web/20130625032153/http://war2.us/[/url] ([url]https://web.archive.org/web/20130625032153/http://war2.us/[/url])

Hell it's even timestamped by wayback machine for ya ;)  You wont find anything different than what you found before which is a lot of DLL use and an autoupdating feature that is no different than iL's autoupdater.  It may even have the hardware banning features in it if you're lucky.  I dont remember what date I had completed those on.  Wayback machine doesnt have EVERY day backups, but this is the "latest" that it has I believe.

Thanks for saving me time. I trust iL he has my permission to auto update.

You on the other hand at that time had foothold of server ru, ddos, threats, etc. Yeah an auto update feature in your software yeah to about half of us who known what you did and could do. So I rest my case. If the hair grew on your ass to attack a player because you disagree with them. You will backdoor and compromise there whole system. So stop with the bullshit. Don't try to pull the well il has auto update, I had one too....

Don't forget this was all after you tried to steal the server you stood by to "help"

Knowing your history at the time with ru and you had the balls to have an auto upate feature yeah I'll skip.

I guess this is the out come of you not having a conversation with someone curious about the development. Also you tech say enough to know yes thise are system files that windows relys on. But that's also like svchost.exe  that most backdoor masks themselves with or any other system file.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 13, 2015, 01:35:13 PM
the main question is whether iL has the motivation, skills and TIME to move things forward, given the current situation and feelings of (i believe) everyone. Theres no shame in passing it to more dedicated people if the motivation is lost.
But you said you're still working on the things, so perhaps you could give us a date? Such as "by the end of september, there will be a hardware ban and an anti-hack system, evn if still buggy" and we will know theres the light at the end of the tunnel. and if you decide that family and stuff is more important, then well, it'll b best to let everyone know and give someone else a chance
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: {Lance} on August 13, 2015, 01:37:48 PM
Don't forget this was all after you tried to steal the server you stood by to "help"

Again, more FUD.  There was never any attempt to steal anything.  The TRUE issue was that Burnt got his panties in a wad because I gave admin to FEATURE because I didnt really want to administrate anything.  One of the best assets War2 has ever had IMO.  The server needed someone,  Burnt had given him moderator status as a "trial run", and then he got thrown in Jail and was no where to be found.  So,  I gave him admin.  Then when Burnt got out of jail, he had a MASSIVE meltdown about Feature being admin and then ALL KINDS of lies started coming out of Burnts mouth and thats when I banned him from the server because he was just spewing lies left and right.  So, he took that as trying to "steal" war2 which couldnt have been further from the truth.  He was literally making shit up and he even admitted it YEARS later in a thread on the old forums.  The whole "lance tried to steal the server" is nothing but a bunch of lies cooked up by Burnt, LDir, and Picka.  There was NEVER any truth to ANY of it.

I'm always amazed at how many people forget that it was actually the other way around.  It was Picka who did the stealing.  Not me (as confirmed by Burnt years later after all the damage had been done).  Again,  it was the RU admins that spewed a bunch of completely bogus information in an attempt to get people to stick with their server.  There is a proven track record of this happening over many years,  it's not just something I dreamed up one night.  Ldir and Burnt are both guilty of that sort of thing, as are all of the administration of RU save only 1.  iL has never "made anything up".  He's the only admin I've ever trusted on the RU side and to this day, I still trust everything he says/does just like I did back then when he was inactive.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 13, 2015, 01:45:11 PM
Well that was all I was saying lance. And when the forums went down I was like wtf!!! Lance just owned us again... So I doubt you actually saw the thread. I know smurf king did. Because he sent me a PM saying why not trust anyone.

With the burnt thing I can relate. That's what caused the fire with me and the community awhile ago.
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 13, 2015, 01:50:52 PM
the main question is whether iL has the motivation, skills and TIME to move things forward, given the current situation and feelings of (i believe) everyone. Theres no shame in passing it to more dedicated people if the motivation is lost.
But you said you're still working on the things, so perhaps you could give us a date? Such as "by the end of september, there will be a hardware ban and an anti-hack system, evn if still buggy" and we will know theres the light at the end of the tunnel. and if you decide that family and stuff is more important, then well, it'll b best to let everyone know and give someone else a chance

I agree with Claw, most IT projects do have a desired delivery date, estimated development hours, assigned developer(s), etc. It is irresponsible and doesn't make much business sense to assign a project without such essential metrics. Wouldn't occur in business, shouldn't be allowed here. Even if it is a few months, there should be a desired delivery date and general updates on project progress, this includes notifications if DDD needs to be extended. Things are so disorganized here, might be time to get some structure involved. We have a development section...might be time to really utilize it. Tupac get your lazy ass on this, asap.


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 13, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
Here let me break down things for you all.

1. The anti is actually working great. The one pushed out now is already telling us you cheat. That was all iL work, I showed him some of my code so we began to collide.

2. I'm merging my methods to C++ for iL to easily emplement.

3. I also finished the script to auto assign icons, you could say .giveprofi if you had 1000 wins it auto gives it to you. It could also assign icons war3 style per wins. And much more

4. I've done alot more too.

I do plan to clean up the mods section with that's for each thread
[TUT] , [INFO] , [DEV] ,
Code: [Select]
TUTORIALS
INFORMATION
DEVELOPMENT
CODE
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 13, 2015, 03:21:08 PM
Here let me break down things for you all.

1. The anti is actually working great. The one pushed out now is already telling us you cheat. That was all iL work, I showed him some of my code so we began to collide.

2. I'm merging my methods to C++ for iL to easily emplement.

3. I also finished the script to auto assign icons, you could say .giveprofi if you had 1000 wins it auto gives it to you. It could also assign icons war3 style per wins. And much more

4. I've done alot more too.

I do plan to clean up the mods section with that's for each thread
[TUT] , [INFO] , [DEV] ,
Code: [Select]
TUTORIALS
INFORMATION
DEVELOPMENT
CODE

Disorganized as shit.

Make a page with proper project titles, which developer is working on what with what specific duties, estimated time of completion, and progress space.

Ex:

-Project Title: or ID
-Purpose: why is it important.
-Estimated Dev time: includes debugging.
-DDD:
-Assigned Developers:
-List specific duties broken up by developer. Estimate hours tasks will take.
-Code: language written in/ software used/ actual code (if ok to release to public)
-Project notes: highlight updates for the community to read. Preferably with date stamp so community can see/track progress.

I would make each official/priority project its own thread with the sub sections above and pin it to top of dev forum.

You work in IT, as you say, this is standard practice. Get your shit together...making us look bad [emoji29].


I do plan to clean up the mods section with that's for each thread


Date? By this weekend? I hope...


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 13, 2015, 04:48:27 PM
This is my hobby. If I see a check from you I would definitely document and organize work and maybe I could give you ETA, but I'm working on alot more then you think. With my life also. When I get to my pc I will create a thread with my team of developers and see how we can deliver better.



We pretty much got the anti hack done.... we could release it but expect to update often......
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 13, 2015, 05:17:54 PM
This is my hobby. If I see a check from you I would definitely document and organize work and maybe I could give you ETA, but I'm working on alot more then you think. With my life also. When I get to my pc I will create a thread with my team of developers and see how we can deliver better.



We pretty much got the anti hack done.... we could release it but expect to update often......

Did I ask you for your life story? I asked you for an estimate completion date. I could careless if this just a hobby for you lol...I don't even see how that is even irrelevant. With that said in mind, estimate completion date?


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 13, 2015, 05:24:08 PM
Are you trolling, Ryu?  Tupac tells you all the stuff he's working on and you lecture him about how he could do it differently?
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 13, 2015, 05:34:24 PM
Are you trolling, Ryu?  Tupac tells you all the stuff he's working on and you lecture him about how he could do it differently?

Efficiently yes. Lecture him? Please...he should already know all this. I know the level of professionalism he's capable of, just asking him to bring that here.

Maybe you should make yourself useful as a mod and direct him how to do it correctly so I wouldn't have to...because what he presented there was just pathetic, tells me nothing about his projects. If you found that as acceptable, that is troubling...


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 14, 2015, 01:10:31 PM
I haven't presented nothing. I don't care if I worked on 9 of 10 things. IL is the guy to talk too. His server, his stuff, I watched you all bash him. When he has done nothing but good.

When this game was designed they had a pay check and a group of developers. We could be an ass hole and act like blizzard. Sorry we don't support this game anymore. Or we could be even more like them and not design an anticheat....

Point is this is stuff we do for hobby or freetime. You can all say what you want.

To blid
Yeah Ryu acts like he payed us and we need to show him how much progress we completed might as well show him all the work then eh LOl?

Anyways a simple hey how is the project comming along? Any new news?
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 14, 2015, 01:31:51 PM

To blid
Yeah Ryu acts like he payed us and we need to show him how much progress we completed might as well show him all the work then eh LOl?

Anyways a simple hey how is the project comming along? Any new news?

lol...I'll take that as you haven't done anything...another useless dimwit.

Show me your progress? I am asking you to show your progress to the whole community in a fashion that actually tells people what you are working on and why you are working on it with a estimated completion date. But your here arguing with me, acting emotional as usual...and giving me your life story as excuses...Not sure why this is a difficult task...are you really that mentally handicapped? I am sure you would have already created the threads in the amount of time you have spent arguing with me...nice utilization of your time btw...[emoji23], probably just found the source of why you don't have time to do anything...[emoji55]


Anyways a simple hey how is the project comming along? Any new news?

Seriously? Lol...come on [emoji29]

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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 14, 2015, 02:56:07 PM
Well if you have correct access to a thread maybe you would see what we do.
Title: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 14, 2015, 03:17:52 PM
Well if you have correct access to a thread maybe you would see what we do.

Cool story bro.

Just let me the community know what you do with a detailed plan of the project...simple. I don't need access...public disclosure that difficult?


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Delete mine too on August 14, 2015, 03:46:38 PM
Ive said before this is all iL with my helps where needed.

I cannot rush someone that not me. You never had an antihack in war2 and when we drop this one it's good.

I've should you all videos of my antihack I just don't think you understand it's ready to launch now.

For security reason we are rewriting it c++ Sorry I can't give you a ETA on a antihack. IL said it is if effect now doing beat tests.....

Just because we haven't banned or notified you for hacking dont mean we didn't catch it. So stop bitching about the project. If you develop why don't I see contribution??? Maybe you could actually draw the plan for us. But right now it's only me, il working I've always asked for more of you to help to be ignored.

Give me a sample code to detect a map hack or what ever. In C++ if not then just let us be man where doing all this work for war2. Thus game has been destroyed and murdered by the commpany. 

I will put a well detailed collage of all the problems and things we are working on. I will create it in the mod section.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 23, 2015, 09:46:16 AM
So, we're about to reach two milestones - hostbot 24/7 and anti-hack. As soon as theyre both done and we see a gow and possibly chop or compstop game hosted now n then, it will be a good time to start advertising again. The game will be much more appealing for newcomers
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on August 23, 2015, 09:58:42 AM
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So, we're about to reach two milestones - hostbot 24/7 and anti-hack. As soon as theyre both done and we see a gow and possibly chop or compstop game hosted now n then, it will be a good time to start advertising again. The game will be much more appealing for newcome

Old players care about antihack, not new players.  The hostbot is good for new players tho.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 23, 2015, 10:04:32 AM
new players care about dellams ruining every single game and AUS players surely care about not being banned every time
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: EviL~Ryu on August 23, 2015, 12:31:37 PM

new players care about dellams ruining every single game and AUS players surely care about not being banned every time

I am curious to see Dellam's status [emoji39]


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: shesycompany on August 23, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAe3sCIakXo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAe3sCIakXo)
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: Winchester on August 23, 2015, 08:48:17 PM
new players care about dellams ruining every single game and AUS players surely care about not being banned every time

New players would just think they were really slow and dellam was really fast in getting to fort (even though they don't know he doesn't have one). Remember, they aren't 20 year veterans. They're new. They wouldn't know they're playing a hacker until they get more experience at the game.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: shesycompany on August 23, 2015, 09:14:18 PM
do any of you hack??? thought so catch a hacker... ban forever!!
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: dellam on August 24, 2015, 07:39:14 AM
Omfg I don't hack u idiots ...
If u seen me hack then post the fucking picture . Idiots
Just a bunch of sore losers and followers make up your own minds. Don't listen to others
My player flange has never hacked... yet constantly gets banned for hacking why just because I win????


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Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: tk[as] on August 24, 2015, 04:52:52 PM
move to flame wars

thread doesnt belong here
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: mousEtopher on August 24, 2015, 09:03:27 PM
It seems pretty okay.
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: I hate naggers on August 25, 2015, 01:10:30 AM
move to flame wars

thread doesnt belong here

haha, you would be so bad at moderation
Title: Re: Things around here
Post by: shesycompany on August 25, 2015, 09:01:17 AM
wow my post was grumpy sorry >:( back sober ;D maybe not a ban forever if there noobs forgot the rules.

there the ones that will be maphacking to get caught.