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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Ekulfx on May 04, 2018, 11:27:29 PM
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valkrie caught hacking so not on list
if someone on list known hacker will remove
nominate someone not on list to add or tell if aka same person will remove
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Add brother Steve, remove TheGlassPrison, an obvious smurf.
u8t3io3p = Szwagier, so remove one of those.
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Why isn’t Dar or East_ok here?
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NO ALF-ATTACK OR BRAVIET
WHAT A LOSERS!
EZ!
IM 2 TIMES!
EZ! ;D
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Added alf attack & braviet & steve. Removed TheGlassPrison.
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swift is that not on the list?
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I didn't see swift, Player, Paperboy.... And others, first make a topic for a list, then vote
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Added player and paperboy.
Clean players only. If any got caught w hack, will be removed.
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well its most def a younger swift
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Game is 20 years old... Every year had its best non-hacking player... So theres like 20 different answers. None of which include 90% of the people on this list =/
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Some of these people were never even tier 2 players.
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tk i almost beat falkentytne..only reason i didnt was casue i was on a old pc testing kali
the game died so fast yeah these are your best players..dos erara to 2001 was only 5 years
2006 when i was addicted sadly its never gone again gone watch swatcats may catfish idk
oh yeah i remember it well he just may have come back..greenhorne was kicking my ass..and i remember falk beating the fuck out of greenhorne..best one out of kali was brazil sk dark or raven ..and im pretty sure the sk's said raven was the #1 there..shit i even played kalibossgoddamn i need some cocain it unreal how good they are
swift shotgun was there in ru they was bad as anyone else
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Why am i the only person that voted for spb?
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mcadder???
Who knows this guy?
I wonder if it is the same mcadder I knew from Kali.
Could you please give me more information for him?
If it is the same guy I knew he was one of the best Greek players in the end of 90s.
Cheerios
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Shout out to my boy Thumb$, please add him to the list!
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MaStA{hR} pwns a lot
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think archangel knows mcadder and met irl yes it would be same guy
added thumb$
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Valkrie hax or not
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Dar is the one and only
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Where the fucks KHB?
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my bad thought i put khb sorry bud added
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Where the fucks KHB?
When I saw this thread and you were not listed on it I instantly figured you were the original poster. (Ekulf being a old player but never posting here before?)
But ya I think KHB or Ash may be the best players ever. They were definatly considered it by a lot of people many years ago. I love seeing KHB playing again and he seems to be getting pretty strong. Some other legends need to unrust and go at him while he is this active!
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its kyle he is the best of all time im sorry..put him u8 as a team id bet theyd never lose..khb can least relase some sc alpha content we so eager want :)
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I repeat my question :-P
mcadder???
Who knows this guy?
I wonder if it is the same mcadder I knew from Kali.
Could you please give me more information for him?
If it is the same guy I knew he was one of the best Greek players in the end of 90s.
Cheerios
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On all these lists people put newer good players (Szwag) and old people nobody has seen in 15 years (Wlkr) but people forget dudes like yah`mon who peaked later bnet era ever existed.
Scrubbo khb underrated and forgot to include jesk
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Where the fucks KHB?
When I saw this thread and you were not listed on it I instantly figured you were the original poster. (Ekulf being a old player but never posting here before?)
Yah it's obviously not ekulfx, ekulfx wouldnt know who 90% of those people are. he was a heat player that only came on bnet a few times at my urging.
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^^May I ask what channel did all the bne players hang in? When I was on bnet I never saw any bne players.
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warcraft 2 challenge or something like that on east
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War2 ladder challenges and Clan [24-7] are the main ones. Check out Shotguns thread with screenshots I posted some from those channels there. Will see some familar faces in them.
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i still think masta{hR} should be on the list
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Only two players should be on this list. Nerzyman and I. How do Viruz and u8 have more votes than Nerz and KHB? LOL
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(https://i.imgur.com/rAqD8Oa.jpg) Look at all these legends online
(yo0 is Kanuks )
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Some of these "legends" and their unfriendly, unwelcoming, juvenile "I'm so good and everyone else is trash!" attitudes are most responsible for W2 having such piddly nightly traffic.
Ie. Shotgun and KHB's sad douchebaggery caused by their insecure overinflated egos that emit leakage of stenchy gas every time the taut skin of the fragile bag is prodded.
It is not in their best interests to keep putting air into bags on the verge of bursting.
The best remedy to ease their tension and help them back into a more stable state for their own safety is to erect a giant mirror (since nothing else giant is ever going to do so in their vicinity) in front of them so they get a glimpse of their lame real life character that derives its only validation in life from a 20 year old nearly-dead video game.
Teams TD Viruz/Shotgun/KHB/BabyShark v yo0/braviet/Talrand/Tyrus and nonstop crybaby whining from Shotgun and KHB because the concept that they just might lose a game is unbearable to their super fragile ego.
I've partnered and fought pro players who can and have beat Shotgun many times and rarely run into this level of pussy crybabiness over having a lesser player in the game. There are a number of high skilled players that aren't anal and are secure enough and adult enough to not lose their mind if they carry a newb and lose for it. They give themselves a challenge, and the newb learns along the way.
The game where I was on the other team lasted a good while and was as good and fun a game as any among only top players. If it really was 4v3, it should have been a much easier win for you but it was actually a very close game.
The reasons I'm challenging this kind of sad behavior are
1. the server can't flourish in a toilet and needs more players, not a routine ejection following attempted humiliation of people who are trying to learn
2 if people are going to be community leaders and hailed as some kind of greats, they should act like it and set a better example
3 if it goes unchallenged it's gonna continue
4 because it's not a fun and healthy place to be to be so filled with anger and rage that you lash out at people all the time for no reason...whatever is leading these people to be so hostile and angry needs remedy in their life and it won't be dealt with if they are able to bandaid their internal pain with rude treatment of other people that gives them a temporary rush and release but doesn't address the real wounds inside
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Also props to Viruz and yo0 who challenged KHB's and Shotgun's anal behavior
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I actually do find it funny seeing people get mad when they losing and start blaming people they perceive as newbs. Om’s and shotgun’s rage is hilarious because I can imagine them getting red faced and banging their keyboard. LOL
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Shotgun is funny because he has war2 down to a science and thinks everyone that doesn’t think as deeply as he does about it is a huge newb.
Which is everyone except shotgun lol.
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(https://i.imgur.com/9RubsBT.jpg)
The world didn't change from this, "the way things are", by people doing nothing and just accepting that crap as okay.
People fought to make things right, and won.
A baby in a diaper is pretty cute. A grown man, not so much.
What's understandable from an unsupervised 12 year old with uninvolved parents is not so cool from adults in their 30's.
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Lotta top tier players do have to win every time. Just the way it is.
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It's not so much losing that angers us, it's people like babyshark who just randomly give up in a game and start typing sentences why they lost when they aren't even dead. Then insist they be allowed to play with 7 players who can compete in a 4on4. It's like Roger federer having a hitting partner whos in a wheel chair. Its charitable of us to let you play in those games, but at some stage you need to know your role and let us play fun matches without a huge handicap / downy ally.
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When I saw you responded, I thought you were gonna say something mean. But this is Shotgun being nice, so let's work with it lol.
1. When I was on the other team, it still took your team like 20 minutes after a really close game to kill my team. If it were really 3v4 as you claim, it should not have been a close or long game when you have Viruz/Shotgun/KHB/Talrand on same team vs only 3 players or 3 of the "world's best" plus Talrand. That game I helped kill Viruz at 6.
2. Other players I can beat in 1s have played with your group and not been treated the same as me. There is obviously prejudice before getting out of the gate against my perceived skill level.
3. When "good" players make game-losing mistakes or perform suboptimally, no one starts yelling at them how retarded they are and a lot of other dehumanizing disrespectful stuff and "throw them out of the game". I play worse when getting yelled at while my hall is building and non stop after that til the yeller leaves out of fear/frustration.
4. I asked permission from host when joining "Is this a pros only game" and the host welcomed me.
5. I understand the desire for good, balanced games. I don't always wanna play with people worse than me (believe it or not, they do exist) that would lose to me in 1s 100% of the time, especially in 2s vs players who'd beat me in 1s more than 50% of the time, but when I DO play with a handicap player on my team, I encourage them, give them advice, and don't start shouting at them what a retard they are all game and leave partway through before the fight's barely started because I think we might lose.
6. I never play 4 the way I did trying to follow KHB's instructions to "peon rush 5 so i can tower him". Peon rush in my mind means send peons and attack his peons. I did that, and repeatedly drew his peons out of his base, but he was able to put up like 4 towers anyways. I follow the instructions of superior players trusting that what they're saying is going to be better than what I woulda done on my own, but I don't think that was the case here. If he meant build towers, he should have said towers. I don't read minds. He still left before the game barely started and for him and you to rage at me cuz I followed instructions isn't really fair. Even viruz said it wasnt my fault we lost.
7. If you want high skill level in games, then work like many have, to boost the skill level of moderate players. Many really good players have 1s me and give advice, or watch games and give advice. Vizzer, XBremer1, even Lance, and a number of other pros have all put in time to teach and coach me. Even Swift and OM who are usually mean people have worked to make me better. OM in spite of being a ragey dbag took time to teach me a lot like tower bug and pulling peons to chop and UC and and I've improved drastically since that time. Swift worked on teaching me scout farming and walling off paths and some other stuff that still needs work, like positioning units and advanced UC that I havent got down yet. I should watch the training video again probably.
Anyways, there are ways to think farther than the current game you're in and your personal need to win every game, like investing into the futute of the game and community.
One of the best ways to learn is playing with the best players and learning from the games, but unfortunately very often the skilled players come with really bad and rude attitudes, which is unfortunate for everyone.
You love this game. Obviously. It's in your own best interests to do some care and maintenance to it like many others do instead of only being concerned with instant gratificstion of winning the current game and your personal image all the time.
The pro host and most of the others in the game were more than happy to be decent human beings and not only let me play but also be nice. It was only you and KHB who were freaking out game after game until the host relented.
If you want to do a few 1s and give me some pointers, I'm down.
If not, I'll just avoid being on your team or KHB's ever again.
You seem to be forgetting the 2v2 where you nearly died and I won it for us...
Btw I didn't give up in the game...KHB did. Is that why you thought I gave up, cuz I typed? No way. I was raring to go. I'm no quitter. I go til last drop of peon blood or last hope, even with one 1 hp uit left I still scout with it for the team.
I'm a really fast typer...not quite 220 wpm but this whole thing was typed in like seconds. I can type really fast while stuff is building. It absolutely does not mean I quit.
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PS. You did nothing to prevent yourself from being born disabled. Accidents, illness, and faulty genes happen and people who are living with additonal struggles need understanding, patience, and compassion.
If it had been you born handicapped, how would you want people to treat you?
Or if one day you have a child with severe health problems?
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What size clippers did they use for your short back and sides
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wtf u guys do to babycakes?
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Looks like shotgun isthe best of all time according to this poll.
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you may not remember me but we played a lot back in 05 on east
didnt like ya at first cuz u never shut up n thoutgt you were a gay guy lmao but i luv my women ;)
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ill pm ya
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get nick in we'll play free castles
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dont know how
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get nick in we'll play free castles
U play free castles? Bo5 me? You win I’ll paypal you $50.
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nah lol ill play tora has to be at my apartment tho at hotel i drop in games
i dont kniw where to paste that?
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He plays free castles. Thats makes him my new friend. When we playing Exulfx?
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L M A O it worked
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discord is for gays no way do i wanna start chattin up the homeboys, i have a girlfriend dude
tora should be home in like a couple weeks depending how long this project takes we're installing the ventilation system in a hershey plant being built out here
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Okay, just post here in the forum when you home. I’ll get Xurnt and loser on, we will play some epic 2v2 and 1v1s of free castles.
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Okay, just post here in the forum when you home. I’ll get Xurnt and loser on, we will play some epic 2v2 and 1v1s of free castles.
I try to stay away....and they just keep dragging me back in!
You are going to owe me some new wrists Tora.
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Hmmm, no idea, maybe i am just lucky and last months nobody yells at me, or I am just too tranquilized 😁😁, but some weeks ago i was in one team with shotgun and i was 6. So i was the worst there in the worst spot, all he said to me next game was that I am too new and that i should watch, not play. No bad words or accusations... And he was right, i got towered, made a cat and survived, but was way to behind. Then i sent my cat to help kill 11 (Player i think) it didnt work and we lost...
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@Tolean Did Shotgun catch you drinking from the white fountain?
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
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discord is for gays no way do i wanna start chattin up the homeboys, i have a girlfriend dude
tora should be home in like a couple weeks depending how long this project takes we're installing the ventilation system in a hershey plant being built out here
wtf no it's not, get discord! HTTP://EN.WAR2.RU/DISCORD (http://EN.WAR2.RU/discord) !
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BabyShark what do you mean drinking from fountain? Maybe i was drunk, but i am not sure about it :)
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Yes, Tolean understands, however Babyshark seems to think she should be allowed to play regardless of her being horrible, instead of saying, I know I'm shit, Ill let someone better have my spot for now.
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You could always use your "better"ness to figure out how to host your own private games and control who plays and who doesn't, instead of trying to hijack other friendly and decent people's public games who want to promote a better community.
On average, there are about zero games hosted at a time.
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Still trying to justify your shitty position. If the game had a password or not has nothing to do with it. We even told you what to do one game, and you lost one peon and started typing why you couldnt do it and how you didn't know how to do it, and yet, you expect us to let you play, when you give up after losing one unit, LOL.
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I didn't give up. KHB is the one that left midgame for no reason other than his own personal issues. Everyone on our team was alive and the action had barely started.
This isn't a matter of me not understanding my skill level compared to the top players. I'd estimate I'm about a 5/10 since there are some 10's that can beat 2 of me sometimes. You're a skill level 10. I get it.
But I also know that we had 3 10's on our team plus 5 so team total of 35 and the other team was not all 10s. Let's say their team total was 38. Our team probably had a several point disadvantage but not any kind that would prevent a good or fun game, and isn't fun the point? I've seen super unbalanced looking games at start where the "disadvantaged" team wins.
Maybe your feelings about yourself are so negative that you need to win to feel okay about yourself. I don't know. A lot of people who are 10s are nice people who are respectful to other human beings and don't wither when they lose. Ask yourself why you feel the need to be routinely rude and disrespectful to other human beings.
It also isn't about me insisting that 10s shouldn't be able to play among themselves without 5s frustrating them by incompetence. Not at all.
Just the whole scenario of how it went down was just totally unfair and uncool. You and KHB were already both yelling and raging just from having me on your team. And if I hadn't been given confusing instructions while getting yelled at, I would have done a lot better.
This is bigger than me and bigger than one night of gaming.
You are killing the game you love by routinely treating all people you consider inferior really rudely in a dehumanizing way. Who does that benefit? A lot of people leave and never come back. Why should they hang out with dbags who don't let them play and treat them like dirt?
I actually get treated really well by most people most of the time, and the few noisy dbags aren't going to drive *me* away. But I've seen countless players that barely ever play come and try W2 and in spite of it being an awesome game, their experience is unpleasant and they move on.
In order to satisfy your desire to feel superior and so good and mighty, you need players around to dominate. The player pool has shrunk from 50ish per night 2 years ago when I started to 30ish per night. Many of those are afk or bots, so you might have 10-20 players playing at a given time. You can balance teams by putting a 10+5 vs a 7+8. You can host private games for pros only. You can act in ways that make it more likely that players will want to stay and play and improve at this game, or you can drive them away.
Is it smart to drive all newcomers away from the game you love?
If we had hundreds of players on the game, I guarantee I wouldn't ever join games you're in or talk to you.
Just tryin to work with what we have.
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Nerzyman was caught with pixie at the end of Kali. Also a known hacker.
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Some of these "legends" and their unfriendly, unwelcoming, juvenile "I'm so good and everyone else is trash!" attitudes are most responsible for W2 having such piddly nightly traffic.
Ie. Shotgun and KHB's sad douchebaggery caused by their insecure overinflated egos that emit leakage of stenchy gas every time the taut skin of the fragile bag is prodded.
It is not in their best interests to keep putting air into bags on the verge of bursting.
The best remedy to ease their tension and help them back into a more stable state for their own safety is to erect a giant mirror (since nothing else giant is ever going to do so in their vicinity) in front of them so they get a glimpse of their lame real life character that derives its only validation in life from a 20 year old nearly-dead video game.
Teams TD Viruz/Shotgun/KHB/BabyShark v yo0/braviet/Talrand/Tyrus and nonstop crybaby whining from Shotgun and KHB because the concept that they just might lose a game is unbearable to their super fragile ego.
I've partnered and fought pro players who can and have beat Shotgun many times and rarely run into this level of pussy crybabiness over having a lesser player in the game. There are a number of high skilled players that aren't anal and are secure enough and adult enough to not lose their mind if they carry a newb and lose for it. They give themselves a challenge, and the newb learns along the way.
The game where I was on the other team lasted a good while and was as good and fun a game as any among only top players. If it really was 4v3, it should have been a much easier win for you but it was actually a very close game.
The reasons I'm challenging this kind of sad behavior are
1. the server can't flourish in a toilet and needs more players, not a routine ejection following attempted humiliation of people who are trying to learn
2 if people are going to be community leaders and hailed as some kind of greats, they should act like it and set a better example
3 if it goes unchallenged it's gonna continue
4 because it's not a fun and healthy place to be to be so filled with anger and rage that you lash out at people all the time for no reason...whatever is leading these people to be so hostile and angry needs remedy in their life and it won't be dealt with if they are able to bandaid their internal pain with rude treatment of other people that gives them a temporary rush and release but doesn't address the real wounds inside
Stop trying to blame me or su for the shitty amount of players. I've been playing for 3 weeks. Before which I've barely played 100 games in 10 years.
No one playing definitely has nothing to do with me.
And you're acting like we committed domestic violence. You're not a good player, I'm sure you're a good person. When we're playing war2, we want to have a competitive game.
We don't play war2 like other people play wow or hearthstone or whatever other casual game there is out there. I don't know what your motivation for play is. Mine is purely competition (legit competition) only.
Keep your tears to yourself
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If i could "Like" KHB's post i would. >:D
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Click the thumbs up. I encourage people being supportive of each other. Good for you Jordan. You're growing.
Wish i could say the same for you
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nah lol ill play tora has to be at my apartment tho at hotel i drop in games
i dont kniw where to paste that?
discord is for gays no way do i wanna start chattin up the homeboys, i have a girlfriend dude
tora should be home in like a couple weeks depending how long this project takes we're installing the ventilation system in a hershey plant being built out here
Ekulfx didn't talk like this!!! And he didn't play customs!!! And he's married and has a baby!!!! And he lives in Canada!!!!
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Look at blid trying to make a strong case for himself not being this Ekulfx person :)
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Who's Blid?
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Lol I find it amusing when most players weren’t around for every era and the vote becomes more a popularity contest, but ill try to add some perspective! Truth is many players have held the mantle of best player for short or long periods. As with anything a huge variable was how much time you’re willing to invest and your motivation.
Top player for Era - Combination of 1on1 and team play for a prolonged period.
Dethwlkr
Azteca
khb
Scrubbo
Incin
Ash
*kyle
*Valkrie
Shotgun
Pimster
Axo
Kith
Kanuks
Viruz
Braviet
Great potential- Great players but they had a few weak points in their game they never bothered to address or became overly reliant on certain strats, which made them a little predictable. Others didn’t necessarily have glaring defficiencies, but they didn’t play long enough to truly let their potential flourish.
*Lone -
Teaboy
yah`mon
Tyrus
*Hornet
Tabac
Knitterhemd
sun`am
szwagier
Jesk
Buzzbomb
KGBagent97
Prophecy
Dynamic Players - Players I found who are great at improvising or coming up with creative and inventive ways to approach a problem. They would easily crack the top player list if they played as much, but regardless would do well in any era
Jitter
Jayhawkerz
Steve
Player
Ywfn
00Tony
Nail
ws-
Meat
Top Human Players
Kith
Darksol
AcidGangsta
Dugz
Lothar_zone
Shotgun
Kyle
Falk
Best Fags, i mean Gayers
Nalzyman - Never seen anyone surpass his elaborate gays to this day, high risk but high reward. Shotty Tried to dual on him twice and he only got 1 bag of gold for both games combined lol
Dugz- Knows every chop and hidden rax spot and can seamlessly transition if something goes wrong.
Kyle - he knows he can play catch up if his gay utterly fails which gives him a little more freedom to try things
Braviet - King of suicide strats!
Top FFA Players
Sc~terror
Kyle
Favorite personal Hypothetical match up 4on4 - My best allies vs the most Solid team I can think of , would be a great series and shotty would still find a way to blame his allies LOL
Paper
Jitter or 00Tony
NeRzyMaN
Scrubbo
Vs
00Steve
Swift
Player
Shotgun
Top Shit Talkers-
Van
KHB
Shotgun
Azteca
NeRzy tried out a program on Kali for a week that when a peon clicks on a building it makes it explode, wasn’t really “hiding” anything, just tried it out along with the name color change program. Was clean on bnet, KHB is just jealous Nerzy has always been considered top dog over him even allying total newbs Like Skaven_wh. Khb would dodge certain people and only ally certain players that could carry him. Also , why do you feel the need to make up lies about players dying? I hadn’t seen you in a decade 1st thing u say to me is “Log off the DI tags, your diluting the (DI) brand lol, like anyone knows who the fuck ur clan is anymore Uncle Rico. Shotty talks shit in a funny way, while you are just a hateful black hole of negativity for some reason. Blid is the war2 Therapist and he’s here if you feel the need to reach out and touch somebody. Don’t stress it Baby, he’s just mad his glory days are behind him now that he’s dead weight
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Lol@best fags
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Lol I find it amusing when most players weren’t around for every era and the vote becomes more a popularity contest, but ill try to add some perspective! Truth is many players have held the mantle of best player for short or long periods. As with anything a huge variable was how much time you’re willing to invest and your motivation.
Top player for Era - Combination of 1on1 and team play for a prolonged period.
Dethwlkr
Azteca
khb
Scrubbo
Incin
Ash
*kyle
*Valkrie
Shotgun
Pimster
Axo
Kith
Kanuks
Viruz
Braviet
Great potential- Great players but they had a few weak points in their game they never bothered to address or became overly reliant on certain strats, which made them a little predictable. Others didn’t necessarily have glaring defficiencies, but they didn’t play long enough to truly let their potential flourish.
*Lone -
Teaboy
yah`mon
Tyrus
*Hornet
Tabac
Knitterhemd
sun`am
szwagier
Jesk
Buzzbomb
KGBagent97
Prophecy
Dynamic Players - Players I found who are great at improvising or coming up with creative and inventive ways to approach a problem. They would easily crack the top player list if they played as much, but regardless would do well in any era
Jitter
Jayhawkerz
Steve
Player
Ywfn
00Tony
Nail
ws-
Meat
Top Human Players
Kith
Darksol
AcidGangsta
Dugz
Lothar_zone
Shotgun
Kyle
Falk
Best Fags, i mean Gayers
Nalzyman - Never seen anyone surpass his elaborate gays to this day, high risk but high reward. Shotty Tried to dual on him twice and he only got 1 bag of gold for both games combined lol
Dugz- Knows every chop and hidden rax spot and can seamlessly transition if something goes wrong.
Kyle - he knows he can play catch up if his gay utterly fails which gives him a little more freedom to try things
Braviet - King of suicide strats!
Top FFA Players
Sc~terror
Kyle
Favorite personal Hypothetical match up 4on4 - My best allies vs the most Solid team I can think of , would be a great series and shotty would still find a way to blame his allies LOL
Paper
Jitter or 00Tony
NeRzyMaN
Scrubbo
Vs
00Steve
Swift
Player
Shotgun
Top Shit Talkers-
Van
KHB
Shotgun
Azteca
NeRzy tried out a program on Kali for a week that when a peon clicks on a building it makes it explode, wasn’t really “hiding” anything, just tried it out along with the name color change program. Was clean on bnet, KHB is just jealous Nerzy has always been considered top dog over him even allying total newbs Like Skaven_wh. Khb would dodge certain people and only ally certain players that could carry him. Also , why do you feel the need to make up lies about players dying? I hadn’t seen you in a decade 1st thing u say to me is “Log off the DI tags, your diluting the (DI) brand lol, like anyone knows who the fuck ur clan is anymore Uncle Rico. Shotty talks shit in a funny way, while you are just a hateful black hole of negativity for some reason. Blid is the war2 Therapist and he’s here if you feel the need to reach out and touch somebody. Don’t stress it Baby, he’s just mad his glory days are behind him now that he’s dead weight
He (nerzy) was definitely actively using it on kali, as he got caught with a lv1 dk dnding. Every top player around in 1999 knew about this.
He was shunned for a while and he disappeared. The only players I avoid are cheaters. And I try not to waste my own time allying ill equipped players
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best all time player azteca, best active right now probably ash..
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2018, 08:28:16 PM »
tk i almost beat falkentytne..only reason i didnt was casue i was on a old pc testing kali
the game died so fast yeah these are your best players..dos erara to 2001 was only 5 years
2006 when i was addicted sadly its never gone again gone watch swatcats may catfish idk
oh yeah i remember it well he just may have come back..greenhorne was kicking my ass..and i remember falk beating the fuck out of greenhorne..best one out of kali was brazil sk dark or raven ..and im pretty sure the sk's said raven was the #1 there..shit i even played kalibossgoddamn i need some cocain it unreal how good they are
swift shotgun was there in ru they was bad as anyone else
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falkentytne ive 5-0 him during my prime... made him rage quit.. but where is that nagger now? lol j/k falk dont come kill me now.. u and thugboyz wtf yall at?? get at me.. and summoner 5-0 ;) wya summoner come back to war2.
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"shit i even played kalibossgoddamn i need some cocain it unreal how good they are"
holy shiet ive read it so fast i had to re-read to get this LOL
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Lol I find it amusing when most players weren’t around for every era and the vote becomes more a popularity contest, but ill try to add some perspective! Truth is many players have held the mantle of best player for short or long periods. As with anything a huge variable was how much time you’re willing to invest and your motivation.
Top player for Era - Combination of 1on1 and team play for a prolonged period.
Dethwlkr
Azteca
khb
Scrubbo
Incin
Ash
*kyle
*Valkrie
Shotgun
Pimster
Axo
Kith
Kanuks
Viruz
Braviet
Great potential- Great players but they had a few weak points in their game they never bothered to address or became overly reliant on certain strats, which made them a little predictable. Others didn’t necessarily have glaring defficiencies, but they didn’t play long enough to truly let their potential flourish.
*Lone -
Teaboy
yah`mon
Tyrus
*Hornet
Tabac
Knitterhemd
sun`am
szwagier
Jesk
Buzzbomb
KGBagent97
Prophecy
Dynamic Players - Players I found who are great at improvising or coming up with creative and inventive ways to approach a problem. They would easily crack the top player list if they played as much, but regardless would do well in any era
Jitter
Jayhawkerz
Steve
Player
Ywfn
00Tony
Nail
ws-
Meat
Top Human Players
Kith
Darksol
AcidGangsta
Dugz
Lothar_zone
Shotgun
Kyle
Falk
Best Fags, i mean Gayers
Nalzyman - Never seen anyone surpass his elaborate gays to this day, high risk but high reward. Shotty Tried to dual on him twice and he only got 1 bag of gold for both games combined lol
Dugz- Knows every chop and hidden rax spot and can seamlessly transition if something goes wrong.
Kyle - he knows he can play catch up if his gay utterly fails which gives him a little more freedom to try things
Braviet - King of suicide strats!
Top FFA Players
Sc~terror
Kyle
Favorite personal Hypothetical match up 4on4 - My best allies vs the most Solid team I can think of , would be a great series and shotty would still find a way to blame his allies LOL
Paper
Jitter or 00Tony
NeRzyMaN
Scrubbo
Vs
00Steve
Swift
Player
Shotgun
Top Shit Talkers-
Van
KHB
Shotgun
Azteca
NeRzy tried out a program on Kali for a week that when a peon clicks on a building it makes it explode, wasn’t really “hiding” anything, just tried it out along with the name color change program. Was clean on bnet, KHB is just jealous Nerzy has always been considered top dog over him even allying total newbs Like Skaven_wh. Khb would dodge certain people and only ally certain players that could carry him. Also , why do you feel the need to make up lies about players dying? I hadn’t seen you in a decade 1st thing u say to me is “Log off the DI tags, your diluting the (DI) brand lol, like anyone knows who the fuck ur clan is anymore Uncle Rico. Shotty talks shit in a funny way, while you are just a hateful black hole of negativity for some reason. Blid is the war2 Therapist and he’s here if you feel the need to reach out and touch somebody. Don’t stress it Baby, he’s just mad his glory days are behind him now that he’s dead weight
Good post!
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the game is growing all the time, players are getting better, you can not compare the players from 2000 and from 2010, if any of you played in SC:BW knew that in Match up PVZ protoss never played FE, then they start doing fast expand(12 probes 1 forge 2 cannons) in 2018 now they are doing 1 cannon 1 getway and rush zerg with fe
I watched few replays "top players" and they made MANY mistakes, now players tier3 are not doing basic mistakes, they were good few years ago, ofc they could be now also but we will never know this
For example braviet, he is playing all the time,and he still dont know how to make hall for best mining gold from mine
this questionnaire is bad
P.S. alf is nup
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WTH? Why isn't my name on this list?
How are all devoted fans going to vote for me now?
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Some really terrible players on that list
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the game is growing all the time, players are getting better, you can not compare the players from 2000 and from 2010, if any of you played in SC:BW knew that in Match up PVZ protoss never played FE, then they start doing fast expand(12 probes 1 forge 2 cannons) in 2018 now they are doing 1 cannon 1 getway and rush zerg with fe
I watched few replays "top players" and they made MANY mistakes, now players tier3 are not doing basic mistakes, they were good few years ago, ofc they could be now also but we will never know this
For example braviet, he is playing all the time,and he still dont know how to make hall for best mining gold from mine
this questionnaire is bad
P.S. alf is nup
Players may be getting better relative to how good they were, but you're right, you cannot compare to the past. The players and games in war2 from 98-2003 were far superior to the games of today.
I compare my experience in playing in those eras with watching numerous replays from your tournaments in the last year, and playing in the last month.
No one is doing anything new or special that wasn't done before. I've been trying very hard to find any improvements in tactics from anyone's game, but I haven't seen any.
Until I do I will keep my opinion as is.
The popular strategy among many of you, this 14-16 peon hold... that gets lust with 6 or 7 ogres. You know what we called this shit 15 years ago? Archy lust. Cuz Arch would get rekt right after his 6 ogre lust attack failed.
The starcraft strategy you're talking about.. tactics come and go, that's all the meta game. Once zerg starts modifying their opening, that opening won't be as good, it adds nothing to your point because it proves nothing.
The War2 metagame in 1s and team games has always been changing, and back and forth to old ones. That's just a reflection of the players creativity, or lack thereof.
And when referencing the current crop of players that I've played with, except for maybe braviet and paperboy, lack there of.
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The popular strategy doesnt go hold with so few peons... it's more like 17-21
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http://occult.war2.ru/replays/toc.php (http://occult.war2.ru/replays/toc.php)
one of these replays i remember where player at 5 didnt make wall and farm next to mine for better mining, so his peons sometimes had 5 square to hall with gold. "champions 2003", its a HUGE mistake
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If that's what you think a huge mistake is, then my entire previous statement is validated by you.
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The popular strategy doesnt go hold with so few peons... it's more like 17-21
Well, I don't know what 'popular strategy' is, or who you're referring to. My reference is to actual games played by 'top current players' going hold at 13, 14, 15 peons game after game.
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the game is growing all the time, players are getting better, you can not compare the players from 2000 and from 2010, if any of you played in SC:BW knew that in Match up PVZ protoss never played FE, then they start doing fast expand(12 probes 1 forge 2 cannons) in 2018 now they are doing 1 cannon 1 getway and rush zerg with fe
I watched few replays "top players" and they made MANY mistakes, now players tier3 are not doing basic mistakes, they were good few years ago, ofc they could be now also but we will never know this
For example braviet, he is playing all the time,and he still dont know how to make hall for best mining gold from mine
this questionnaire is bad
P.S. alf is nup
Really even though it was called "Tournament of Champions" I think it was just any average player they could round up. Yeah there were some good players in that but just as many ok. I tried to do a ToC that was actually made of up of champions as a invitational but it failed to draw a crowd. Could have been awesome.
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If that's what you think a huge mistake is, then my entire previous statement is validated by you.
so, what in your opinion is huge mistake? forgot lust? upg lust?
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I see this a lot from bad players, using lumber mill peons to rep an altar or mound for example, I would call that a major issue that has impact that weak players do.
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How you do keep record to peon who build lumber mill? I loose knowing which peon has build lumber mill therefore maybe sometimes I use lumber mill peons for rep alter. Why using alter repair from lumber mill builder peon is bad?
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I see this a lot from bad players, using lumber mill peons to rep an altar or mound for example, I would call that a major issue that has impact that weak players do.
ofc but if player see that his peons just start cut tree (i would say first 5 hits) its not mistake, but if he move peon with "49" hits ofc its mistake
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Yeah, I mean when someone puts an altar down next to their wood line, then grabs all their wood peons. Really fucks your wood and at a critical point, unless your resources were out of control already :)
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List of semi-active players who can 10-0 KHB without a warm up.
Alf, u8, Kyle, Viruz, Shotgun, Braviet, Lone
Judging by your current level of play I'm certain you do not even have the understanding of the game which you may have had a decade ago. Hence you cannot compare the past to the present.
Besides when you are looking for the differences in what people do, stop counting peons. It's so not about that. ;)
I like players with ego, but I honestly have no idea where yours is coming from. Anyway I hope you'll play more and become remotely challenging until around July so we can have some fun!
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Hey Lone! Who are you? Quiet please, from the scrub gallery.
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You can't even demonstrate the skill of a tier 3 player. You quiet lol
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But I also know that we had 3 10's on our team plus 5 so team total of 25
😂
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There's days when we are unstoppable, I wonder what I ate those days going to keep track from now on. :D
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As of 2004 or so, the top players were almost certainly:
KHB
Ash
Valkrie, even without hacking
yah'mon although he may have hacked
Nerzyman
There were great players before that, like DethWlkr and Azteca. And those two were likely better than some of the above when all played regularly. But they stopped and the others got better.
And I wonder if there have been any major updates in how the game is played in the last 17 years. Maybe faster mouse clicking and all. But what do people do differently now?
The King of the Hillbilly series is probably the best way to analyze this.
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KHB
Ash
Valkrie, even without hacking
yah'mon although he may have hacked
Nerzyman
Only one here I haven’t played with much is Nerzyman. The rest are no where near the top in 2021.
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And I wonder if there have been any major updates in how the game is played in the last 17 years. Maybe faster mouse clicking and all. But what do people do differently now?
Biggest things I think are customizable hotkeys and replays. In 2004 it wasn’t as easy to rewatch games of top players.
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uh, why the fuck isn't Dugs[anz] in that list? i scanned it like 3 times good and proper, but couldn't see him. he's clearly the best of all times, wtf
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just scanned it again, definitely not there
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The best players of all time are long gone. They got good, dominated, got bored, and quit.
{RA}Stryfe ^{Kyp}^ .. y'all dont even know them cus they got too good too fast and moved on
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The best players of all time are long gone. They got good, dominated, got bored, and quit.
{RA}Stryfe ^{Kyp}^ .. y'all dont even know them cus they got too good too fast and moved on
Jayhawks always tells me this.
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Nerz and I were the best. I do like the Caution angry user icons next to my name, made me LOL
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As of 2004 or so, the top players were almost certainly:
KHB
Ash
Valkrie, even without hacking
yah'mon although he may have hacked
Nerzyman
IDeletedMyRam
There were great players before that, like DethWlkr and Azteca. And those two were likely better than some of the above when all played regularly. But they stopped and the others got better.
And I wonder if there have been any major updates in how the game is played in the last 17 years. Maybe faster mouse clicking and all. But what do people do differently now?
The King of the Hillbilly series is probably the best way to analyze this.
The game has changed a bit, it's widely accepted for people to edit hotkeys and utilize macro's these days. Apparently cheating has become acceptable, which is why most people who have posted in this threads opinions are worthless.
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Pretty funny since you almost only play with the biggest hacker of all of them, u8!
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Best War2 player of all time is a loaded question since theres been different "best" players during each era, and what makes a player greatest is a subjective question..
When I first came to Kali95 in 1996-97 the "best" teams I played against were Azteca/Metal, DethWlkr/Stalker/DethWish, but you had many other REALLY well coordinated teams potentially with less skilled players like Pimster/Guan-Yu/Watje (the hehehe clan), IN clan (Incinerate, who I met at Foxwoods Casino ironically, Tillerman, etc), the FearDaUPS~ guys were really well coordinated, a lot of this game was teamwork skills not just individual skills.
Later on when in Kali and when BNet edition came out the Divine Intervention guys were the best, King Hillbilly/Punkash were the most dominant team the game has ever seen, but there were SO many good players anyone could be beaten at any time, even my lackluster skills could win a game here and there against those guys.
The difference I see in the greatest players of all time was their ability to play with lesser skilled players and still win. On that front, Punkash was the clear best player to ever play the game with Nerzyman very close behind, I played 100s, maybe 1000s of games with those guys and they knew how to carry, instruct, and literally tell you almost unit by unit how to help them win. They made the guys they played with better, which IMO is what makes a great player. As good as guys like KHB, Azteca, and many others were, they pretty much cherry picked their allies, only played with the best of the best, and of course won a ton, but they werent passing along their knowledge and helping others be better.... maybe that was the strategy, keep everyone else a step behind. No doubting how good they were of course, but the egos and trash talking of lesser players was a bit nauseating.
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This is an old thread.
General consensus is that tk is #1
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Where the fucks KHB?
NWTR one pud wonder.
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Where the fucks KHB?
NWTR one pud wonder.
Hah whats up vb .. I remember when KHB was a NWTR guy .. that catting experience ended up helping a lot as the strategies evolved on GOW
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Well, everyone has a different opinion here. I've been playing the game for a few years now. I made a list of the best 1v1 and 2v2 players.
1v1: Swift, Shotgun, Startale, u8t3io3p, Viruz, Poscow, Valkrie, Jesk, Nerzyman, rat, lone, Medivh,Bara
2v2: Jitter, Its_Hot_in_Here, Tabac[MAN], KHB, Scrubbo, Braviet, Teaboy, Wargasm, Lux, Steve, Player, Prophecy, Foonat, tdawg, dugs
Some underrated team players which are actually very good:
DJ_Boss, Unforgiven, Ywfn, BHC-HAWK, Bromane, Zapper, kanuks, donger, alf... pretty sure ive missed some good ones.
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Idk what you guys are on but everyone know tk[as] #1 player of all time.
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^^^
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Interesting List - let me add some facts
Well, everyone has a different opinion here. I've been playing the game for a few years now. I made a list of the best 1v1 and 2v2 players.
1v1: Swift-CHEATER, Shotgun, Startale-CHEATER, u8t3io3p, Viruz, Poscow, Valkrie-CHEATER, Jesk, Nerzyman-CHEATER, rat, lone, Medivh,
2v2: Jitter, Its_Hot_in_Here, Tabac[MAN], KHB, Scrubbo, Braviet, Teaboy, Wargasm, Lux, Steve, Player, Prophecy, Foonat, tdawg, dugs
Some underrated team players which are actually very good:
DJ_Boss, Unforgiven, Ywfn, BHC-HAWK, Bromane, Zapper, kanuks, donger, alf... pretty sure ive missed some good ones.
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Interesting List - let me add some facts
Well, everyone has a different opinion here. I've been playing the game for a few years now. I made a list of the best 1v1 and 2v2 players.
1v1: Swift-CHEATER, Shotgun, Startale-CHEATER, u8t3io3p, Viruz, Poscow, Valkrie-CHEATER, Jesk, Nerzyman-CHEATER, rat, lone, Medivh,
2v2: Jitter, Its_Hot_in_Here, Tabac[MAN], KHB, Scrubbo, Braviet, Teaboy, Wargasm, Lux, Steve, Player, Prophecy, Foonat, tdawg, dugs
Some underrated team players which are actually very good:
DJ_Boss, Unforgiven, Ywfn, BHC-HAWK, Bromane, Zapper, kanuks, donger, alf... pretty sure ive missed some good ones.
I remember Valkrie being caught and ArchAngel admitting he cheated once... otherwise I didnt know about the others, I also dont know who Startale is or when he started playing...
I wonder how many others cheated too that we never knew about... it certainly seemed like the skill gap widened a LOT in a short time which was hard to believe
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StarTale old Aka was KingMage or something.
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I think it's safe to say I've played over 50k games since the age of 13. I hacked I like 3 of those games. Like twice on Kahn using pixie to make those flying demons, and once against a hacker just to see them hacking.
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Interesting List - let me add some facts
Well, everyone has a different opinion here. I've been playing the game for a few years now. I made a list of the best 1v1 and 2v2 players.
1v1: Swift-CHEATER, Shotgun, Startale-CHEATER, u8t3io3p, Viruz, Poscow, Valkrie-CHEATER, Jesk, Nerzyman-CHEATER, rat, lone, Medivh,
2v2: Jitter, Its_Hot_in_Here, Tabac[MAN], KHB, Scrubbo, Braviet, Teaboy, Wargasm, Lux, Steve, Player, Prophecy, Foonat, tdawg, dugs
Some underrated team players which are actually very good:
DJ_Boss, Unforgiven, Ywfn, BHC-HAWK, Bromane, Zapper, kanuks, donger, alf... pretty sure ive missed some good ones.
Whats the story behind the nerzyman cheating accusation?
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Isnt an accusation. He was caught using pixie on kali.
Put down a temple at hold, death and decay without research lvl 1.
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Lux has always been #1…
(In everyone’s heart)
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DJ_BOSS
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Isnt an accusation. He was caught using pixie on kali.
Put down a temple at hold, death and decay without research lvl 1.
I remember asking in u8's stream what StarTale's AKA was and I got shit from everyone in the chat saying he was always StarTale lol... I do remember King Mage
... on Nerzyman, if he hacked on Kali only I can look past that, throughout the years on Bnet he was a really, really good player... If hacks were that easy and relevant I would venture to guess that a LOT more people hacked than we ever knew about, especially on Kali when you couldnt have observers as easily