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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Alexhandr on August 31, 2016, 12:47:09 PM
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I've been a forum lurker for awhile and once in a blue moon I'll pop onto War2Combat server, but generally it was quite quiet.
I just wanted to make a formal hello.
I really do pray that this community grows and more people contribute to it.
Glad to be here. Cheers!
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Hello Alexander.
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I see your avatar is Our Lady of the Rosary. :)
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Welcome aboard.
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Thank you for the welcome. :)
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Hello, welcome to War2 :) Glad to have you here, hope to see you on the server sometime! You can also join us at Discord for casual chat (http://en.war2.ru/discord (http://en.war2.ru/discord))
Have you played war2 in the past, e.g. on bnet?
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Bless you for your warm welcome!
I haven't played WarCraft 2 on Bnet since I was 15 or 16, and it was only in short bursts. My competitive games were Unreal Tournament, Command and Conquer (all of them except 4), StarCraft: Brood War and Age of Empires II. What kept me from playing Wc2 competitively was the fact everyone played Orc, for obvious reasons. I'm a contrarian, and I enjoy playing the more difficult to play or the more peculiar factions, like Yuri in Red Alert 2.
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well u sound like your a human player!
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Humans are fun to use, I always play Random. Im fairly certain i have a better 1v1 win ratio as humans compared to orcs too, if not it's very close.
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A Human player I am, almost exclusively, so that I might train in how to fight Orc. Microing mages & knights is going to be crucial, and so is my macro. :)
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A Human player I am, almost exclusively, so that I might train in how to fight Orc. Microing mages & knights is going to be crucial, and so is my macro. :)
Do you upgrade to paladins? Most people I see that play humans never do this.
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i need to practice up, also been thinking of some strats.i'd def upgrade to paladins to stop the dk's
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i need to practice up, also been thinking of some strats.i'd def upgrade to paladins to stop the dk's
I've always been somewhat back and forth on this. If my enemy is making use of a lot of deathknights, I might get exorcism, but it's time consuming and costly. Healing I do use in HvH matchups, but most of the time I never do get paladins, which is a real shame. Someone should update the game and put forth a balance fix, though I am unsure if this is possible. I assume not, since it's been so many years and no one has yet to do it.
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I think holy vision in itself is worth the upgrade. And Exorcism more handy in customs like chop then a gow game, I'll occasionally get it on gow if I have plenty of gold and if they're doing things like hasted death knights, it might be worth having it just so a patroling paladin with the 240 mana can 1 shot it before it does D&D. Which works out later on if you're attacking a walled-in expo that has death knights inside you can just exorcism them and they won't be able to defend there expo suddenly :P
I don't always get exorcism though but when i do research it generally pays off and saves me at least once from a hasted death knight getting to my mine :P
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These are really good points, though holy vision I don't generally use too often because you should always be scouting. Not to say I do this (I often do not) but if you are always scouting properly, holy vision shouldn't be used. But of course it can be helpful regardless of whether or not you are always scouting or not.
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These are really good points, though holy vision I don't generally use too often because you should always be scouting. Not to say I do this (I often do not) but if you are always scouting properly, holy vision shouldn't be used. But of course it can be helpful regardless of whether or not you are always scouting or not.
There are times where you will simply run into a group of ogres when you try to scout which can get a bit annoying where as holy vision allows you to act more swiftly I find when it comes to expos.
also each paladin that comes out of a rax can automaticly cast one holy vision, so you can check several expos or common temple spots instantly at once everytime you make some paladins, or if you're attacking someones expo and they're sending a group of lusted ogres to deal with you, and you holy vis around the possible entry ways and see them coming , you'll know when to back off and take little to no damage, which is good for annoying them.
It's also great at finding hidden temples and incoming death knights toward your mine, allowing you to either catch it in transit alot easier, or pull your peasants off gold before it hits death and decay.
Heal can also be nice if you're up against alot of guard towers at expansions like 12/2, but it sucks in the middle of a fight against bloodlust
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All superb uses of holy vision. Hm.
Maybe I do need to upgrade to paladins more often then!
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Yeah, while paladins aren't as great as ogre mages, just holy vision in itself lets you be alot more controllng. Got a group of pallys you want to run from 6 to 12 to hit an expo and are worried about hitting a bunch of bloodlusted ogres on the way? Check with holy vision and if they are there, wait till they go, or if they're coming in your direction, you can hide them.
You don't need to be in a rush to build a church like you do an Altar of storms and you don't need to rep it with peasants either.
With Humans you gotta make the best with what you have. And Holy Vision can be pretty broken if you know how to use it.
What spells do you usually research on your Mages?
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Blizzard, Invisibility, & Slow.
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Good to hear you get Slow, most people I see never research it. When do you usually use it? I use it alot in each game generally
Polymorph can be used pretty good defensively if you have mages protecting your expos, if you spot a death knight you can polymorph it before it deals its damage. And if you happen to run into an ogre when not invis'd it's sometimes better to polymorph it then to Slow&Run away depending on how much health your mage has left.
I personally like that it doesn't give the "we're under attack" message to your opponent also when cast :P
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Hey there, bro, I immediately like you. Welcome to the forum, though I don't post here much anyway other than host that noob bulletin board I have.
I'll add you up on Steam(with my name Clownboss as always), and we'll see if we can do some fun matches.
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Good to hear you get Slow, most people I see never research it. When do you usually use it? I use it alot in each game generally
Polymorph can be used pretty good defensively if you have mages protecting your expos, if you spot a death knight you can polymorph it before it deals its damage. And if you happen to run into an ogre when not invis'd it's sometimes better to polymorph it then to Slow&Run away depending on how much health your mage has left.
I personally like that it doesn't give the "we're under attack" message to your opponent also when cast :P
I use slow very often. It's an extremely effective spell with low mana cost. Great way to get rid of pesky blood lusted ogres that are chasing your peasants or mages and support in combat with your knights.
Hey there, bro, I immediately like you. Welcome to the forum, though I don't post here much anyway other than host that noob bulletin board I have.
I'll add you up on Steam(with my name Clownboss as always), and we'll see if we can do some fun matches.
I'm very happy to hear that you immediately like me! Hah! :)
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flame shield is good also :P when they pile up, flame the middle it not bad at all:)
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flame shield is good also :P when they pile up, flame the middle it not bad at all:)
I've only won one game beacuse of flame shield, and that was against USA~Feature ;p we were both on teamspeak at the time, that game was hilarious as we had just destroyed each others bases, and only gold i had left could only be used to research flame shield, couldnt train another mage, so i got it, and it helped win haha.
I've thought about the flame shield middle if a group piles up, do they retaliate and move toward you when you cast it? cause if not, that could wipe out a group of ogres very easy, ill test it out a bit more next time im on
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it still so hard cause your maging ..its as powerful as lust but in like 3 so its still less mana, even your units as they are spread out wel ohhh god damit canon towers and flame shield to kill the orcs its actaully pretty goddamn possible "bship = orge worst nightmare no praying jesuu!! ....canon = the same force them to dk excorcism gg no re
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opps sorry jessu :P but dudes there is another strat...i think it was virus that said you just take them out before they get lust...ever seen this dudes replays holy shit
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I'd be using holy vision all the time if I were human.. Ito a great scouting tool. See what u want to see instantly without putting a unit in harms way
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I'd be using holy vision all the time if I were human.. Ito a great scouting tool. See what u want to see instantly without putting a unit in harms way
I'll definitely keep this in mind, thank you. I'll be sure to use it far more often.
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spikemaverick dude that used to play anyone got any replays of him.he was all human ,just wonder what he did.
well just tried against a new dude...im way to slow,canoned up 6 of them for orges,mine colapse 22 peons and 3 knights 6 foots and 2 mages.
if it was against a dude that was more of a opponent hed tooken the map lol...maybe just speed to that first mage is the way to go.
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I'd be using holy vision all the time if I were human.. Ito a great scouting tool. See what u want to see instantly without putting a unit in harms way
It really is a great spell. Underutilised by alot of human players on the server.
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well i successfully done it! heavy d lol but still the dude wasnt what you call anywhere near aggressive,
holy v helps but i find myself making copters just to keep a eye at the base...take the attacks and invis mage thier mines till they just give out.....versus a more around average player ..its not gonna be easy.
another note flame shield kills dragons put it on a knight.
but this match wasnt a hard grunt rush or the standard lusted orge way laying on you :/