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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Warbux on January 26, 2020, 07:18:16 PM
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some people enjoy there freedom they dont care if others talk shit they dont care what there views religion or race is i am 1 of those
but some people want to be able to play with out harassment an hearing shit talk .. i can understand that point of view to
but i do not agree with punishing people for it ... were not gods we should not punish any 1 for there differences
i do agree with protecting people tho from not having to have to deal with or see toxic behavior that they dont agree with
so my only solution is we do a IP MUTE ... can we make a command so a person can mute some 1s ip ... as i understand back in the days this is how it use to be
on battlenet when u muted some 1 no matter what name they relogged on they stay muted... can we bring that back??
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@iL
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Wtf, racism shouldnt be "ignored" it should be fucking punished.
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perma mute would be a great feature to have.
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as i understand you mean "ignore", same as "squelch", not "mute"?
mute denies someone to send messages at all.
ignore allows someone to ignore messages from some players.
As i understand, your idea is to make permanent ignore, to remember it between relogins the server?
Not sure check by ip is a good idea: ip can be dynamic.
The idea for perm ignore by name is great, the question is who will implement it:
Need several things:
1. interface to add, view and remove perm ignores. Something looks like /friends commands
2. a place to store the data. Most likely a table in the database.
3. to inject this code to let ignore info implemented every time player join the server.
4. pvpgn is old-school C-code, need to add that securely, to not make vulnerabilities to hack the engine. Need a programmer with specific skills.
5. every time you updating this feature to apply fix during the development process, you have to restart the server, all the players will be dropped and should rejoin.
6. programmer should be trusted, i'd say we should trust the whole database of players to him.
7. programmer should be interested in implementing such feature.
Probably 3,4,5 could be simplified by already implemented php-engine inlcuded to current pvpgn by me and Lance several years ago, though it's not ready for such functionality right now.
I don't see how to link all these factors together...
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Yeah permanent ignore/squelch
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If we're able to add that functionality that would be a really good feature. IP ignore is one thing, but even just the server being able to remember who you ignored if you leave and come back, would be nice.
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Hah! We can go different way btw:
Maybe someone can make a plugin to catch the /ignore command, write them into a text file and autoload them on war2 start.
Then everybody can edit that file manually, copy between computers and so on.
Not sure if somebody like labmchops or fois can catch or execute /commands on client side, but maybe that would be easier way to act.
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Hah! We can go different way btw:
Maybe someone can make a plugin to catch the /ignore command, write them into a text file and autoload them on war2 start.
Then everybody can edit that file manually, copy between computers and so on.
Not sure if somebody like labmchops or fois can catch or execute /commands on client side, but maybe that would be easier way to act.
well ill try an shop around for volunteers lol .. if lamb is up for it i know we ask alot out of these guys fois as well.. lets see what happens
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Here is my question. Has this EVER been necessary? In the last 15 years, has anyone been so consistently abusive and so overall despised by the general community that we have to write scripting just to accommodate ignoring this person and enabling him to continue to act the way he does?
Am I the only one who finds the lengths we are going to, to enable Van to be Van, kind of ridiculous? I'm putting that very politely btw.
I'm not saying we gotta perma ban the guy, but 24 hr bans, week bans, until he chills out. I'm fine with that. Van isn't dumb, he will make the choices he wants to make.
"Chill out honey bunny!" (from? anyone?)
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What could we do, iL is sure burnt is enouph important to let some kind of priviledge to van.
Burnt is more important then the entire community :newthumbsup:
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u guys dont udnerstand that if we do it to van we gotta do it to every one... im not tryna go down that road where people are ognna start getting banned cuz they rage on sum 1 over a bad game
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u guys dont udnerstand that if we do it to van we gotta do it to every one... im not tryna go down that road where people are ognna start getting banned cuz they rage on sum 1 over a bad game
There nobody like van.
I explain you the difference, i taught you were clear about it.
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I understand your point, which is valid, but you also have to understand that not everything is always black and white. In all honestly, I'm for the freedom of speech on here. But, everything is within reason. In the US, you have the 1st Amendment, which gives you freedom of speech, right? BUT, you can't say ANYTHING you want anytime and place. There are still consequences because you just have some people who can't handle it and need to be punished.
This is the same situation. You can say a lot of shit and get away with it but at some point, at some point, a line must be drawn. That doesn't mean we have to write in some verbal rule. I think when it's obvious, like it is now, it's just obvious.
Van is simply an outlier. Others talk shit, yes, others use racial slurs, sure, others rag on people for no reason, yes but nobody does it to the extent and with the consistency that Van does.
Nobody else has created an entirely new sever (splitting the community) because of one person. Nobody else has made this administration have to consider creating a script to be able to deal with 1 person. This is pretty clearly above and beyond anyone else.
Again, I'm not saying I want him banned for good at all. If we gotta just keep kicking him for a few days or weeks at a time, until he stops, then so be it.
In all honesty, I don't even overly care about the Van thing so much. This just happens to relate my Burnt issue with Van Jr., being an unfit admin. But after reading all of this and the extent we are willing to go through, just for Van, for some unfucking godly reason, it just grinds my gears. (reference?!)
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People get in trouble with the law for making all kinds of threats, Van has pmed people in detail on how he is going to murder them and their partners, which is a pretty serious threat, Freedom of speech entitles you to speak your mind and opinions, not go around threatening people on how you plan to murder them.
The whole freedom of speech argument is kinda null when it starts to involve threatening peoples lives.
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People get in trouble with the law for making all kinds of threats, Van has pmed people in detail on how he is going to murder them and their partners, which is a pretty serious threat, Freedom of speech entitles you to speak your mind and opinions, not go around threatening people on how you plan to murder them.
The whole freedom of speech argument is kinda null when it starts to involve threatening peoples lives
That's not a serious threat. That's just a hilarious sense of humour that you don't understand.
What I find interesting is the lengths sjw retards like woofy (and all his various smurf iterations), will go to to push their ridiculous social agendas, on a gaming server, for a game, that has ALWAYS had this extreme humour element (and, pray god, always will).
If these guys would put down their gummy bears and glowsticks long enough to actually play the game, they might conjure up a lick of respect, but they suck so bad at all aspects of war2 that this is the only means they see to make an impact; desperate for attention as they are.
Leave .ru alone.
The U.S. server auto-kicks for the word "shit", amongst others. For those who want to push this fundamentally retarded social agenda: they have the choice to go there.
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I'm absolutely sure threatening people in their real life should not be something that have part in our community.
But... what to do with that?
Someone threatened others, he and his friends got threatened, someone send letters to someone's wifes/husbands. I think that is vicious practice, we should take it away from our community.
I'm not talking about to ban somebody, that would help nothing, just make one side angry on another one. I'm about to just stop that yourself. Then people will stop do that against you and your friends.
I ask everybody to stop every kind of threatening from your side, then your opponents will stop from their side.
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That's just a hilarious sense of humour that you don't understand.
That's what I keep telling them, when they talks about ban-VAN or some shit like that.
It's good to see that non-Russian players understand that too.
All those racist, wife-fucking, bicycle-hating speeches are just sometimes bad, sometimes good jokes.
And about XURNT protecting VAN.
I remember I watched his stream at POS LOW Adam Memorial Cup in 2017 and Xurnt squelched VAN.
I was really mad then, like "XURNT WHO THE FUCK ARE U TO SQUELCH HIM", I wanted to read his comments via stream.