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Help & Support => Support Requests => Topic started by: Johno on March 31, 2016, 06:51:35 AM
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Hi, I'm not sure if I'm leaving this message in the right place but I've only just signed up to this forum so forgive me!
last night I tried to play a game of Warcraft 2 with my brother but when we installed War2Combat on his laptop we found that when he tried to play the screen seemed to be zoomed in at the top left to some extent and he couldn't move his mouse beyond that point, and anything that he couldn't see on the screen he couldn't select with the mouse. Also is it possible to have computer bots in these online games?
We tried the "classic" game play to attempted a network game just through his internet hub before hand but we couldn't get that to work either. But when we tried to play through the server we both tried to create a game but found that once we had done this we got a message saying something like "your game has been closed, no one can join your game. There are some other problems as well but I don't want to raise too many at once.
Any advice that could be offered would be much appreciated.
Many thanks.
Johno.
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the game being closed and no one being able to join it sounds like a port problem, which is one of the biggest problems our game has when it comes to getting new players. Maybe tupac or evil~ryu on the forums can help you out there.
You can have computer bots in online games yes, though you cannot choose if there on a team or against each other, so no 2v2v2 or anything like that, it would end up a 2v4 instead. or a free for all if you choose the free for all settings.
As for advice, if you plan on playing with other players, if you get asked "s9?" from a player upon joining a Garden of War game, answer 30k or they will ban you from there game. They do this because they don't want noobs in there game. if they ask you "11?" answer 65k. Our community is a bit shit to newer players so if you're not just playing with your friend you'll have to endure a bit. The custom maps community is a bit more open to newer players, but can still be harsh.
If you're wondering what s9? means it's a location on the map with a gold mine where if a clock was pointing at 9'o'clock it would be pointing at this mine in question. When you are asked "s9?" they are trying to ask you how much gold does the mine in Small-9 contain. The answer is 30000 gold, 30k for short.
with "11?" question, same thing. The mine if a clock was pointing at 11 o clock, this contains 65000 gold.
Hope that helps if you ever play Garden of War and encounter these type of questions from other players.
Watching games is also a nice way to figure out how where to build your buildings in certain spawn locations, if you build it in the exact spots you can sometimes wall your base off or shorten entry points for your opponent. if your playing against computers, a wall-in like this with a Cannon Tower or Catapult is very helpful compared to just making alot of towers everywhere. As they would need to destroy your farms, barracks, lumber mills or whatever you placed in the wall-in spot first before they can reach your tower/catapult. This is good because the other buildings have alot more health then a tower, and you can always repair your buildings with peasants/peons when they're attacked too. :) hope this little bit of advice helps
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Wow great advice Winchester [emoji14][emoji106]
Please post this in the correct support section of the forum next time! [emoji847]
Check the server website, it has great tips on how to host by correctly port forwarding your router. Specific model/router portforward instructions can be found at portforwarding.com .
But, If you didn't understand a word I just said and are even more lost than ever, let me or Tupac know and we can further provide 1x1 assistance.
Happy gaming.
Sent from my Motorola DynaTAC 8000X using Tapatalk
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The Game port being closed, not the game being closed :P. This means that 6112 is closed on your router and has not yet been opened for incoming traffic. However, since you are both on the same network, that still wouldnt be enough. You would need to change one of the computers to use a different port such as 6113 or something else. There are instructions on how to do both of these here:
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,151.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,151.0.html) <--- 2 Machines on the same network
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,385.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,385.0.html) <---- Port forwarding to open 6112 so you can host.
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Yes make sure to use the newer version of combat. Try using the loader it has UPNP support if it's enabled then it should work for you and automatically port forward. If not enable or port forward manually any problem or questions you can ask.
You can use the melee setting click on the slot and add a CPU to play with.
Now for that video problem, make sure to update drivers, and if you have windows 8.1 above make sure to uncheck color fix for Windows 7 when you install war2 and apply the fix for 10 manually. You can do this all in about 20 minutes.
Thanks
-tupac
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Wow great advice Winchester
Thanks.
Heres an example picture of the cannon tower protected by farms Johno
(https://i.imgflip.com/11qtut.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/11qtut) (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)
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Thats not the correct setup. That farm would get absolutely destroyed by grunts. You need more than 2 repairing peons to be able to fend off a good player. Back it off 1 square and then it's correct. The raxes could also optionally be placed right on the farms so that they cannot be completely surrounded by attacking units. They would also serve as a barrier between the farms and any possible saps as well. But in all truthfullness, never use farms as a wall if you can avoid it. Always use a rax or temple instead. Also, the farm placement themselves are incorrect. The top right side has to much facing the opponent. Kick them in more so that there is less facing outwards than inwards. I would have placed the raxes on top of that top farm to protect that farm's corner. The bottom farm isnt to bad, it's outward face allows less units on the right side than it does on the left side, which is correct. The idea is to be able to put more repairers on the building than the attacker can put offensive units.
Bottom line, judging by the many mistakes in this SS, I'd venture to say that this player isnt someone that should be giving building placement advice ;) But it does get the basic idea across. Make sure the cannon is protected by something, even if it's all fucked up like in this SS. Its still better than nothing at all.
For a better explanation of proper wall-in, see this: http://classic.battle.net/war2/gs/wallin.shtml (http://classic.battle.net/war2/gs/wallin.shtml) Take notice of how the buildings are staggered so that they have less vulnerable faces than what is depicted in the above screenshot. It also explains why a barracks should be used instead of a farm when it's possible. If at all possible ALWAYS use a barracks or a temple.
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i just pulled it off google, I don't even know the map it was on but it's a fine enough example of how to protect a tower by walling it in, even if its not the best wall in :P
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Thank you everybody for your suggestions, I can now see how you can have computer bots online, and I'll let you know how I get on with trying to sort the port problem out. Does anyone else have any other ideas about why the picture would be zoomed in at the top left on my brothers laptop?
Thanks.
Johno.
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If you can post a screenshot of it that would probably help tupac help you out a little easier.
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Thank you everybody for your suggestions, I can now see how you can have computer bots online, and I'll let you know how I get on with trying to sort the port problem out. Does anyone else have any other ideas about why the picture would be zoomed in at the top left on my brothers laptop?
Thanks.
Johno.
Ahh, I believe a setting needs to be changed in your graphics card control panel? Maybe someone can add to this...Lance?
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try 640x480 reso before recording.iknow it sounds terrible but that's what it sounds like to me as it will be a squate in the top left on higher reso's
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Thank you everybody for your suggestions, I can now see how you can have computer bots online, and I'll let you know how I get on with trying to sort the port problem out. Does anyone else have any other ideas about why the picture would be zoomed in at the top left on my brothers laptop?
Thanks.
Johno.
Yes would be nice if you could get on your brothers computer. It would make troubleshooting alot easier? You can tell him to come here if you can't get his pc.
It's most likely a setting that needs changed or updates need to be made. We can always remote desktop and take care of the problem in real time.
Let me know.
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He is describing a non-stretch situation. The screen is probably showing the full war2 screen, but is a tiny ass box in the upper left corner. This is caused when you dont have screen stretching enabled, it usually affects laptops or low end desktops that have shit video cards that dont have a native 640x480 resolution (they may only go down to 800x600). So a screenshot (probably with a phone) would probably best describe the issue.
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Sounds like the same issue as this guy? http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,159.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,159.0.html)
(https://i.imgur.com/2ZMKWaA.png)
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In the properties of the War2Combat exe, you could try applying "Run in 640x480 screen resolution" under the Compatibility tab. Has this been recommended already?
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He is describing a non-stretch situation. The screen is probably showing the full war2 screen, but is a tiny ass box in the upper left corner. This is caused when you dont have screen stretching enabled, it usually affects laptops or low end desktops that have shit video cards that dont have a native 640x480 resolution (they may only go down to 800x600). So a screenshot (probably with a phone) would probably best describe the issue.
Follow this ---^^^^
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Well we seem to have solved the problem of the screen not displaying properly on my brothers laptop, it wasn't the same problem as the example that mousEtopher gave but clicking "disable display scaling on high DPI settings" in War2Combat Properties seemed to do the trick. As regards forwarding his router, he's concerned about doing that at the moment incase it messes anything else up with his internet. Is it a relatively safe process?
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Well we seem to have solved the problem of the screen not displaying properly on my brothers laptop, it wasn't the same problem as the example that mousEtopher gave but clicking "disable display scaling on high DPI settings" in War2Combat Properties seemed to do the trick. As regards forwarding his router, he's concerned about doing that at the moment incase it messes anything else up with his internet. Is it a relatively safe process?
Okay good! Yes the port forwarding is safe just don't play with anything. You can also login to the router and see if it has a UPNP option if so make sure it enabled. Then the war2 loader will port forward for you if it's capable of it. If not do it manually very easy to do.
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Is it possible to play War2Combat windowed?
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Yep! http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,897.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,897.0.html)
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I followed that link and opened that war2windowed folder or what ever it's called, the one with the ddraw.dll files in but I couldn't find a ddraw.dll file already in the War2Combat folder. I dragged both the ddraw files from the war2windowed folder into my War2Combat folder anyway and it seems to have worked, the game is windowed but at some point I got a warning saying that one or more of these files can potentially harm your computer and the windowed screen is very small and I can't select the edges of it to enlarge or shrink it, is there a way of changing the size of it?
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Can you take a screenshot for me? Sounds like a false positive from a virus scanner. They should have an option to analyse the file to determine it actions. It should then come back clean.
Yes the bnet interface is broken outside the box. So moving the screen to the top left will help with that issue. Won't be perfect just alot better. Also that's okay if there wasn't a .dll in there maybe you have an older system?? Or you never applied a color fix.
The window is not resize able, and sometimes hard to scoll with mouse. I would not use this for any game you want to take serious. I will take a look for the code and maybe we can change some code around to get what we need.
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Can you take a screenshot for me? Sounds like a false positive from a virus scanner. They should have an option to analyse the file to determine it actions. It should then come back clean.
I don't know how to paste a screenshot into this forum, it was a message that flashed up as a windows security warning when I tried to drag the W2WINMODE folder to my desktop.
By the way I have found a way round the small windowed screen problem that might be useful for other people who want to play it windowed. This is how I do it in windows 8.1 anyway, and I suspect you can do it the same if not a similar way on other windows versions.
right click the desktop and go to "personalise" and under the display settings you can go to "Calibrate Colour" to change the size of items displayed in windows, the default setting is 100% and it's marked default so it's easy enough to remember how to change the setting back once you've finished playing. Anyway you want to click the box that says "let me choose one scaling level for all my displays", you will then get the option "custom sizing options". When you select that you get a scale bar and a drop down menu allowing you to choose a more specific size, here you can experiment by adjusting the size and applying it until you find that war2 displays as a good size in the windowed mode. When you have discovered the size you need then you don't have to mess about experimenting every time, when you click "apply" you might get a prompt to sign out of windows and then sign back in again. WHAT EVER YOU DO don't go too big because you may not be able to get back again! So start at the smaller numbers. I have found that the ideal size for my laptop screen is 150% I guess it may vary depending on what size screen you have, I'm afraid I don't know what size screen mine is! But it seems like a common/standard size.
Once you've done this you can move the war2 windowed box to the centre of the screen, now the taskbar might be covering it at the bottom but that's not an issue because you can just right click on an empty part of the taskbar and select "properties" and under the "taskbar" tab there is a drop down box for "taskbar location on screen" and you just move it to the right of the screen or to the left if your desktop items are positioned on the right, then nothing is covering the war2 windowed box and you're ready to go:). Once you've finished playing the game it's easy just to change these settings back to normal again.
I just thought I should share that with you because playing in window mode is useful for numerous reasons. Maybe this should be a bulletin.
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Why would you go through all that trouble instead of ALT tabbing out? When you change to size of windows to almost full screen doesn't it defeat the purpose? Plus mouse scrolling would be an issue still because it does not lock the mouse into the game window.
Plus this would mess up your battle.net interface also.
And resizing and resizing when done. If you where using this for serious matches and not development I would be clueless :)