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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: GetReady on March 17, 2015, 09:55:18 AM
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Like i said, if i was not comming back, it was only because i dint want comming back.
But since tk Left hes admin position with saying Il, blid and moustopher kill this game, i have no reason to think i am the probleme.
So i will not respect the ban anymore, if they keep ban me.
I also give an offert to iL... We gonna see what the answer is, let's hope hes gonna take the good one for once.
For the best of us, let's hope.
Respect the free speech, respect my human rights.
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Here my offert to iL and other staff, look pretty fair.
They ban me again from their personal choice power and im gonna protect myself from my only power.
Here the list of what gonna happen if they ban me one more time.
1: Gonna put this forum online. ** A forum where i show how to use 2.02 client step to step **
2: Gonna spam all youtube videos of war2ru and other players with this forum.
3: Gonna spam your forum everywhere before get ban.. It mean when everyone sleep every night and it mean ALOT OF SPAM for when your wake up.
4: Gonna spam your officiel website.
5: Gonna spam the russian forum.
6: Also gonna spam facebook.
They have not the right to ban me or you without a communauty choice, and the communauty are not 4 member of the staff who dint even play with winchester and claw.
We are almost 100 active player in a week on this game, i consider to ban me it will take a pool and need 3/4 of agreed on the ban on 100 players.
It mean between 60 and 100 agreed for the ban.
Thats a real communauty ban.
The way i get ban is only a ban from their personal satisfaction, thats nothing to do with a commaunauty choice.
Dont ban me again or i will show you how the fuck you guys are lazy for the next several month.
It's already do 4 month, believe me, i dont cares to do 4 other month, your better stay calm and everything gonna be good for everyone.
Be in war not gonna help this game, we all know it.
If they ban me again, they will proove how they are fucking selfish and dont cares about us, dont cares about what gonna happen for their own satisfaction to everyone here.
You want to ban me? do a real communauty vote and i will respect it you got my word.
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i would ban him for fun, hes just a retarded psycho ;3
yo eq i need more views and comments, pls watch my vidz
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This is proof that the ban is 100% legitimate and should remain in effect.
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This is proof that the ban is 100% legitimate and should remain in effect.
There nothing proof, explain me why tk left.
You and burnt ban me from your personal choice, there no communauty in that.. You totally know it.
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I agree that any ban needs to be a community decision.
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The only ban who dint deserve a communauty choice is for hacking if it's proov.
But banning me for my free speech totally need a real communauty choice.
Not 6 members of the forums includ 4 members of the staff who dint even play this game.
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I agree that any ban needs to be a community decision.
it should be a community decision whether it should be a community decision
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I agree that any ban needs to be a community decision.
it should be a community decision whether it should be a community decision
It already has been established that its a democracy here.
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Let me post my answers from PM here to clear my opinion:
Here the list of what gonna happen if they ban me one more time.
Your message looks like threat from terrorist, you probably know how the society handle dangers for terrorists.
Nobody accept their terms.
It's up to you, but i don't think your tactics will be success.
I don't see a reason to ban each your account while you have anything new to say, but other admins do.
Respect the free speech, respect my human rights.
well, about free speech and abusive power:
free speech means free to pass your opinion about anything. It doesn't mean free to spam the forum.
As i understand, that is the main reason to ban you.
Why you write that to me? Talk to burnt or mousey, i didn't take part in your ban, i just didn't protest against it.
Of course you feel free to do anything you want, that is your decision.
I don't want to be in war with you, but i didn't begin that war, agree?
I'm ready to continue that war if you want, but would be good for everybody to stop it, i think so.
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There go your human rights, you dumb cunt :3
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Let me post my answers from PM here to clear my opinion:
Here the list of what gonna happen if they ban me one more time.
Your message looks like threat from terrorist, you probably know how the society handle dangers for terrorists.
Nobody accept their terms.
It's up to you, but i don't think your tactics will be success.
I don't see a reason to ban each your account while you have anything new to say, but other admins do.
Respect the free speech, respect my human rights.
well, about free speech and abusive power:
free speech means free to pass your opinion about anything. It doesn't mean free to spam the forum.
As i understand, that is the main reason to ban you.
Why you write that to me? Talk to burnt or mousey, i didn't take part in your ban, i just didn't protest against it.
Of course you feel free to do anything you want, that is your decision.
I don't want to be in war with you, but i didn't begin that war, agree?
I'm ready to continue that war if you want, but would be good for everybody to stop it, i think so.
I tell to you because you claim to be the main admin.
Main admin mean the number 1.
So you have the right to tell them to stop for the best of all because they are totally abuse of their power and you let them, so your the one to stop that or your one to be guilty.
Proof tk let you down because they abuse of power.
Also, repeating my request is not spamming, take this like peoples who protest in the street and repeat always the same thing.
I protest for what i want and thats my right too, it's a part of free speech.
This is spamming.
foijgdijgfdjgjd
gjfdjglkfdjkgjdfljg
jgfdjglkfdjglkjfdkgj
jfgjfkdjgkfdjgjfdlk
fjkjglkfjgkfdjgkfjlkd
jflkgjfdkgjkfdjglkfdjgkl
this is spamming.
What i do is protesting about something who kill this game, i have the right to protest about it since i am a part of this communauty.
You dont want to ear it, ignore me, you have no right to ban me for this opinion.
Terrorist or not, thats now your choice, not mine, the only thing i know, we dont want a useless war, both of us.
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ban
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iL... listen me... Your always asking everyone to give you a chance and try your way...
Please... you listen me.. im polite now... im good.. this time, for once, its your turn to let us a chance, try this way and close this client..
Just try it... Please, i beg you for this... please men... try it a week at least, just try it.....
I give you my word, we gonna see alot of players comming back if you do, believe me.
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how many people use the "hack client" still?
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.. and mvoe thread to flame
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iL... listen me... Your always asking everyone to give you a chance and try your way...
Please... you listen me.. im polite now... im good.. this time, for once, its your turn to let us a chance, try this way and close this client..
Just try it... Please, i beg you for this... please men... try it a week at least, just try it.....
I give you my word, we gonna see alot of players comming back if you do, believe me.
Name one person who quit because of the client with which you're obsessed.
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how many people use the "hack client" still?
Who know? Only admin know about it, and even if they know they can lie to us, it dont mean they do, but they can, we need total confident, thats only what we need.
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iL... listen me... Your always asking everyone to give you a chance and try your way...
Please... you listen me.. im polite now... im good.. this time, for once, its your turn to let us a chance, try this way and close this client..
Just try it... Please, i beg you for this... please men... try it a week at least, just try it.....
I give you my word, we gonna see alot of players comming back if you do, believe me.
Name one person who quit because of the client with which you're obsessed.
he means indirectly I think because of the hacking
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I tell to you because you claim to be the main admin.
Well, that means i'm the main in technic part, not the main admin over other admins.
My fault, i'll fix that in my bnet profile.
But yes, others respect my opinion. And i respect their opinions too. Each of us do. Mutual respect to others' opinions makes our team stronger.
Also, repeating my request is not spamming, take this like peoples who protest in the street and repeat always the same thing.
I protest for what i want and thats my right too, it's a part of free speech.
This is spamming.
foijgdijgfdjgjd
I don't protest against your protest, i protest against you do it in every single thread not related to that.
And other admins/mods also protest against you attacking them as i think.
Well, formally yes, it's not spam, i just used conventional word here.
Formally i'd call that "offtopic garbage".
"Spam, obnoxious pictures, offtopic garbage".
Each good idea being repeated in hundreds of times in every thread could become spam or offtopic garbage is you prefer that word.
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iL... listen me... Your always asking everyone to give you a chance and try your way...
Please... you listen me.. im polite now... im good.. this time, for once, its your turn to let us a chance, try this way and close this client..
Just try it... Please, i beg you for this... please men... try it a week at least, just try it.....
I give you my word, we gonna see alot of players comming back if you do, believe me.
Name one person who quit because of the client with which you're obsessed.
he means indirectly I think because of the hacking
Name one person who quit because of "hackers."
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iL... listen me... Your always asking everyone to give you a chance and try your way...
Please... you listen me.. im polite now... im good.. this time, for once, its your turn to let us a chance, try this way and close this client..
Just try it... Please, i beg you for this... please men... try it a week at least, just try it.....
I give you my word, we gonna see alot of players comming back if you do, believe me.
Name one person who quit because of the client with which you're obsessed.
Nobody will leave about this because there not other server to play war2.
People dont talk because they dont want to be equinox2
The truth is how much gonna be confident to play after when they gonna know they can caught hacker for real? How much gonna take lose like a man and stop crying, how much gonna take this game seriously after.
Closed this client is a way to start from 0, it's a way to rewrite the war2 history, its a way to give a new philosophie to this game, its a way to let a chance at other people to make a name, all of this is fresh air.
Just try it and lets see what happen, i guarantee you it's only gonna be good news, if not, get your client back and i fucking will shut my mouth for ever, i give you my word right here.
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I don't like hacking and think the anti-hack is the most important project we have for this server. I don't think we need to do anything with this dang client you talk about all the time. It was a troubling discovery, now people are actually finding out about it and may use it, that is all bad, but an actual anti-hack will solve the problems better than closing the client would, because people can still hack with other versions of War2, and lots of users can't even log on with client checking enabled. I think your imaginary doctor was right about your obsessiveness. You should take your $1000 and donate it to iL for the software protection service he needs to hire to keep anyone from cracking the anti-hack.
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I'd say blocking the client is a simple and easy fix we should do if the client-checking process itself didn't stop dozens of users from being able to log on the server. But it does!
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I believe il has stated about 5 to 10 times that closing the client has caused problems for other users and that he is working on an anti hack.
Also, his work on it cannot be done as fast as he would like, as he stated himself many times, he needs to look after his wife,kids work and rest sometimes.
If that is not clear to anyone normal, then that someone needs to seek a therapy.
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Yes people can still hack with war2ru client, but they can get caught,,,, and we dont care if they hack when we can caught them.
We care if they hack and we cant caught them...
Your anti hack not gonna give us confident, because your anti hack not gonna tell us who get ban, and dont give us confident about our own evaluated.
Also your anti hack not gonna fix the latency probleme, and you exactly know about what i talk when i said its nightmare for pro player who try to get out peon out of gold mine.
Did your anti hack gonna fix this latency issue between these different client? I dont think so..
So why are you gonna work ten time harder for an anti hack and a latency fix when close this client take 5 minutes.
Closing this client is the fresh air that game need...
Just think about the fact we start from 0... and everyone have to make his reputation again from 0 without hacks... I bet there alot of players who suck now gonna be better then alot who are top10 right now.
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I'd say blocking the client is a simple and easy fix we should do if the client-checking process itself didn't stop dozens of users from being able to log on the server. But it does!
Every game of world have only 1 client and 1 patches.. did you ever play recent game from 2015... every month new game have updated, if you dont download it, you cant play it... there no different patches and no different client.
Your probably the only game i know where is free land, your the only game i know who absoluty want to use this method..
And your probably the only game i know with 30 players on a regular base since ten years.
People have to respect the work of this server, if they are to lazy to download the real client, a client who take 2 minutes to download, fuck all of them..
This game is free, no cd key, easy download, lighter then the orginal game, there no reason why they cant download this client.
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1) I haven't seen any demonstration of a latency problem caused by interaction between differing clients
2) Running client check prevents many people from being able to log onto the server
3) You can be confident in an anti-hack if people report and show that attempting to enable any hacks always fails and leads to disconnect
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so is this an official "Closing the client" thread? because i already see eq running his mouth about that. Please answer
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I'd say blocking the client is a simple and easy fix we should do if the client-checking process itself didn't stop dozens of users from being able to log on the server. But it does!
Every game of world have only 1 client and 1 patches.. did you ever play recent game from 2015... every month new game have updated, if you dont download it, you cant play it... there no different patches and no different client.
Your probably the only game i know where is free land, your the only game i know who absoluty want to use this method..
People have to respect the work of this server, if they are to lazy to download the real client, a client who take 2 minutes to download, fuck all of them..
This game is free, no cd key, easy download, lighter then the orginal game, there no reason why they cant download this client.
This makes sense, but I don't think this is the only problem with client checking. Maybe iL can confirm. I think there's plenty of people out there that still run War2 from the CD or a torrented download of CD and so on, and all these people, regardless of version, I don't think they can be auto-forced into "upgrading" to Combat. They would have to go and install it manually. Maybe that's OK? I am not sure. Anyway, I'm not sure if that's how it works either, iL knows how these things work and what the problems were of enabling client check more than I do. But client check wasn't even rejecting any versions, it was just logging their versions for the database, and it still caused problems with people.
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so is this an official "Closing the client" thread? because i already see eq running his mouth about that. Please answer
Dude if i get probleme is because of peoples like you who just complaint without have nothing good to said, just stfu if you cant speak brillant.
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Stop saying I said things I did not say. Don't use my name to fight ur battle.
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iL... listen me... Your always asking everyone to give you a chance and try your way...
Please... you listen me.. im polite now... im good.. this time, for once, its your turn to let us a chance, try this way and close this client..
Just try it... Please, i beg you for this... please men... try it a week at least, just try it.....
I give you my word, we gonna see alot of players comming back if you do, believe me.
Yes, you're polite now.
I already tried that as i wrote before: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,64.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,64.0.html)
What do you want to see?
I tried already and we got the problem: several germans wrote that they have a problem to connect.
Several others probably didn't wrote about the same problem. I can't see stats on who was not able to join.
how many people use the "hack client" still?
I don't have statistisc: my evaluation is about 10-15%.
My main care is several newbies trying to join using some non-combat war2 build or original version (i know at least 1 russian war2 build based on 2.0.2.1 with server.war2.ru gateway included). They will just click on the server, get an error and think the server is not working or w/e.
I don't want to loose possible new players because of possibly better compatibility with some kind of hack in quite specific mode.
I can add version information message into my future antihack if you want, that's quite possible.
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Ah, here's another key thing from iL's older post:
That means versioncheck at least will not work under new windows with UAC enabled when your war2 is installed into programs files, where any full version will be installed by default.
That's why i disabled versioncheck on the server and have no plans to enable it anymore.
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1) I haven't seen any demonstration of a latency problem caused by interaction between differing clients
2) Running client check prevents many people from being able to log onto the server
3) You can be confident in an anti-hack if people report and show that attempting to enable any hacks always fails and leads to disconnect
1: Came with me on game and im gonna show you what is the latency bug between different clients.
2: They cant log because they are lazy to download a client who take 2 minutes, they will download it when they will miss this game dont worry.
3: I can be confident on our actually anti hack we already have.
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3: I can be confident on our actually anti hack we already have.
Which is what? The other versions? People can hack with the other versions of the client easily. The only thing that catches them is being asked for ss, but even then, they can edit the ss. Lots of people have hacked with other versions of War2 I'm sure.
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iL... listen me... Your always asking everyone to give you a chance and try your way...
Please... you listen me.. im polite now... im good.. this time, for once, its your turn to let us a chance, try this way and close this client..
Just try it... Please, i beg you for this... please men... try it a week at least, just try it.....
I give you my word, we gonna see alot of players comming back if you do, believe me.
Yes, you're polite now.
I already tried that as i wrote before: [url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,64.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,64.0.html[/url])
What do you want to see?
I tried already and we got the problem: several germans wrote that they have a problem to connect.
Several others probably didn't wrote about the same problem. I can't see stats on who was not able to join.
how many people use the "hack client" still?
I don't have statistisc: my evaluation is about 10-15%.
My main care is several newbies trying to join using some non-combat war2 build or original version (i know at least 1 russian war2 build based on 2.0.2.1 with server.war2.ru gateway included). They will just click on the server, get an error and think the server is not working or w/e.
I don't want to loose possible new players because of possibly better compatibility with some kind of hack in quite specific mode.
I can add version information message into my future antihack if you want, that's quite possible.
We dont talk about version check, we talk about closing, this is sure they are not gonna join our server by orginal war2client, they gonna have to download the war2ru client like everyone, everyone at the same step.
This is what it suppose to be.. Im also pretty sure they can made their own patchess too... We dont talk about hacks now, its even worst then hacks...
Probably can modifie mpq or something by patchess because this client allow any patches.
Also, your not gonna see new player from war2original games, nobody sell this game anymore anyway, if you want to get people is all about how you do your promotion, is about the fact you need to affiliated war2ru with other games and other gaming forums to make publicity... Its a fair trade to everyone, we bring them our player they bring us their players.
Fair trade this is how promotion work... you cant hope to get new players if you dont accept to lose some.... Dont hope to get new player from an orginal dead game.
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3: I can be confident on our actually anti hack we already have.
Which is what? The other versions? People can hack with the other versions of the client easily. The only thing that catches them is being asked for ss, but even then, they can edit the ss. Lots of people have hacked with other versions of War2 I'm sure.
Dude edited an ss is a fucking legend, there nobody here who can edited a ss perfectly without get caught.
Stop this men.
Show me how you do if you think so, because this is only a legend, i garuantee you.
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so is this an official "Closing the client" thread? because i already see eq running his mouth about that. Please answer
alright, i believe it is. I dont want to see any equinox's "close the client" posts in other threads
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so is this an official "Closing the client" thread? because i already see eq running his mouth about that. Please answer
alright, i believe it is. I dont want to see any equinox's "close the client" posts in other threads
Right now the only garbages post i see as il said is you, dont com here if your not happy, there a thousand thread where you can waste your time.
Your also acting like the hacker who want to protect is little treasure.
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i can hack no matter the patch actually. sorry to disappoint
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claw seriously stfu and stop spamming this thread with nonsense. This thread has nothing to do with you.
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claw seriously stfu and stop spamming this thread with nonsense. This thread has nothing to do with you.
i just want to have it on record so any time i see the "close the client" blabber somewhere else, it will be a reasonable insta-report. Matter of days until eq gets banned anyway
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claw seriously stfu and stop spamming this thread with nonsense. This thread has nothing to do with you.
i just want to have it on record so any time i see the "close the client" blabber somewhere else, it will be a reasonable insta-report. Matter of days until eq gets banned anyway
You better keep your effort for this karma thing, because right now your just lookin bad.
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Stop saying I said things I did not say. Don't use my name to fight ur battle.
Equinox: Why did you left the other forum? Did you finally realise they kill the game?
Tk: mouseytopher is killing forum/game... and iL/blid are letting her do it
Your own words, be a man, assume it.
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i give offer to iL:
ip Ban eq from game
ip Ban eq from forums
and give any active player a temporary adminship in-game for the solely purpose of hunt and ban and new equinox's ips
i nominate claw for this task
should he accept he must provide daily reports
GG
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We dont talk about version check, we talk about closing
If we talk about closing then i think our talk should be over, because i see that as unreasonable caprice.
this is sure they are not gonna join our server by orginal war2client, they gonna have to download the war2ru client like everyone, everyone at the same step.
My gerenal line for the server is to let people use as many clients as they can to let them see the server is alive.
It's possible to let them download combat or any other versions if they want, but they should be at least sure that they can join with anything they have.
You feel free to setup your own server with any other ideas you want.
Also, your not gonna see new player from war2original games, nobody sell this game anymore anyway, if you want to get people is all about how you do your promotion, is about the fact you need to affiliated war2ru with other games and other gaming forums to make publicity... Its a fair trade to everyone, we bring them our player they bring us their players.
There's a lot of active players, casuals and newbies using non-combat versions now, so i don't see any reason to enforce them to use combat or w/e definite version.
1: Came with me on game and im gonna show you what is the latency bug between different clients.
That is not so obvious for me. Warlatency decreases latency from units for person who activated it, so they take advantage over others. But that doesn't look like something related to lagging in games as for me.
If you researched that question that really could be a good reason to let people select the same version (2.0.2.0), but need to check and prove that.
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We dont talk about version check, we talk about closing
If we talk about closing then i think our talk should be over, because i see that as unreasonable caprice.
The way I see it, the subject of client restriction has been given a fair hearing in this thread and the final word on the subject is: it will not be implemented at this time. So, what's it gonna be EQ? These are the terms of the peace treaty:
You stop to attack this server and forum staff and other members of community, and stop to spam topics by that request to "close that hacking client".
I ask other admins/mods to unban you.
The war is over, you continue posting and playing, we relax and continue our admin/mod job, everyone is happy.
Do you abide, or does the armistice end?
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We dont talk about version check, we talk about closing
If we talk about closing then i think our talk should be over, because i see that as unreasonable caprice.
this is sure they are not gonna join our server by orginal war2client, they gonna have to download the war2ru client like everyone, everyone at the same step.
My gerenal line for the server is to let people use as many clients as they can to let them see the server is alive.
It's possible to let them download combat or any other versions if they want, but they should be at least sure that they can join with anything they have.
You feel free to setup your own server with any other ideas you want.
Also, your not gonna see new player from war2original games, nobody sell this game anymore anyway, if you want to get people is all about how you do your promotion, is about the fact you need to affiliated war2ru with other games and other gaming forums to make publicity... Its a fair trade to everyone, we bring them our player they bring us their players.
There's a lot of active players, casuals and newbies using non-combat versions now, so i don't see any reason to enforce them to use combat or w/e definite version.
1: Came with me on game and im gonna show you what is the latency bug between different clients.
That is not so obvious for me. Warlatency decreases latency from units for person who activated it, so they take advantage over others. But that doesn't look like something related to lagging in games as for me.
If you researched that question that really could be a good reason to let people select the same version (2.0.2.0), but need to check and prove that.
You close other clients for ever, you put me as an admin wich i can take decision and i give you 500$
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We dont talk about version check, we talk about closing
If we talk about closing then i think our talk should be over, because i see that as unreasonable caprice.
this is sure they are not gonna join our server by orginal war2client, they gonna have to download the war2ru client like everyone, everyone at the same step.
My gerenal line for the server is to let people use as many clients as they can to let them see the server is alive.
It's possible to let them download combat or any other versions if they want, but they should be at least sure that they can join with anything they have.
You feel free to setup your own server with any other ideas you want.
Also, your not gonna see new player from war2original games, nobody sell this game anymore anyway, if you want to get people is all about how you do your promotion, is about the fact you need to affiliated war2ru with other games and other gaming forums to make publicity... Its a fair trade to everyone, we bring them our player they bring us their players.
There's a lot of active players, casuals and newbies using non-combat versions now, so i don't see any reason to enforce them to use combat or w/e definite version.
1: Came with me on game and im gonna show you what is the latency bug between different clients.
That is not so obvious for me. Warlatency decreases latency from units for person who activated it, so they take advantage over others. But that doesn't look like something related to lagging in games as for me.
If you researched that question that really could be a good reason to let people select the same version (2.0.2.0), but need to check and prove that.
You close this server for ever, you put me as an admin wich i can take decision and i give you 500$
since we're throwing unreasonable and pointless offers at each other, how about this one:
i give you 1$ if you leave war2 forever
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You close this server for ever, you put me as an admin wich i can take decision and i give you 500$
I don't think that's a good offer.
I have another one: you stop posting that offtopic garbage about closing clients and disliking war2ru admins in unrelated threads and you continue posting on the forum and playing on the server with your currently active accounts.
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i have another proposition for newbienox
you sign up for a mentally ill institution and institutionalize yourself for 8 months
scan and send us the signed approval of sanity in 8 months and then you get your ban lifted for 1 week only
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You close this server for ever, you put me as an admin wich i can take decision and i give you 500$
I don't think that's a good offer.
I have another one: you stop posting that offtopic garbage about closing clients and disliking war2ru admins in unrelated threads and you continue posting on the forum and playing on the server with your currently active accounts.
I support this offer. EQ, insult me all you want in the flame forum, or even in the regular forum if it's relevant to something, I don't really care. Talk about the hack client in appropriate threads, that's fine, but only in a few dedicated threads, not in all the other threads. Seems reasonable. If you can agree to this we should open your Equinox account for you to use here again. If you on the other hand don't do this, then we should keep you banned on the forum on the Equinox account and we should quickly ban any other account you create.
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i can hack no matter the patch actually. sorry to disappoint
claw seriously stfu and stop spamming this thread with nonsense. This thread has nothing to do with you.
Funny how the chicken fucker is allowed to spam w/o penalty huh?
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He has 550 fewer points than you. in general it's less what you post, ryu, than the volume of it.
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He has 550 fewer points than you. in general it's less what you post, ryu, than the volume of it.
I just post, i dont pay attention to my count. As i told smurfking, i use Tapatalk app, its just like texting...[emoji39]
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