There are a lot of smurfs on the ladder which makes it hard to say who is who but lets see what we got to work with.
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Also u got to think about that we got alot of players which are very goodly in 2v2 better than most but dont like 1v1 games. ( doug, ywfn etc... )
Also some good 1v1 players which suck horrible in 2v2 games.
i played few games as teaboy, better change name teaboy to g3mini
I'd have to say Yamon did a pretty damn good job. I pretty much agree to what he says except the following:
Tier 1 to 2:
Startale
Tier 4 to 3:
xbremer1
BHC-HAWK
Allstar
DoritoeFU
Tk[As]
Tier 3 to 2:
Tyrus
Tier 5 to 4:
Evil~Korn
EDIT:
Teaboy is swagier? Looks like yes. Tier 4 to tier 2
Tora asked Yamon to build the tier system. Let me say that again.
TORA ASKED YAMON TO BUILD THE TIER SYSTEM.
So if you see some silly biased stuff in the tier system, you should veto it, saying it was built by Yamon.
Here is my list,It was Yamon suggested him in tier 4, maybe doesn't know him
Tier1
00kyle,
u8t3io3p
braviet
Shotgun
Startale
Alf-Attack
BHC-Jesk
Medivh
Viruz
00Joe
00Logan
Player
Knitterhemd
Sepi
Tier2
tyrus
Yamon
Greenagenda
Mystical
Spb
00steve
00Steph
ogremage
Mythical
-Koorb-
TWN-cancel
UNF0RG1VEN
Dugs[anz]
DoritoeFU
Allstar
$liCk
Ltfan
Tabac[Man]
Teaboy
^PaperBoy~SoL^
Ywfn
I' am 00Logan and for the poor performances ive shown the past few weeks Tier 2 should be a privalege lolol
9/10 times im on war2 going to bed would of been the wise decision. This game is just my relaxation for how ridiculous that sounds.
The reason why I do believe its better not to combine everyone together is because it will be the same 3-5 people winning every single time. If you I were to put you against braviet 1 tourney, then Medivh the next, then 00joe after that, and then some other tier 1 after that you will feel discouraged from entering future tournaments.
The reason why I do believe its better not to combine everyone together is because it will be the same 3-5 people winning every single time. If you I were to put you against braviet 1 tourney, then Medivh the next, then 00joe after that, and then some other tier 1 after that you will feel discouraged from entering future tournaments.
If you have a tier 1 that only consists of 10 people and you schedule for a tournament you are probably going to get 2 people total. Is that still considered a tournament? Or is it just going to be a prize match.
The list I posted is made up of all former tournament champions except 5-6 heavy hitters I decided to add in there. Everyone on the list I posted would beat down on your average Tora or Xurnt who are looking to join a casual tournament, you take away the tier 1 2 and 3 heavy hitters and then the gap in skill between everyone would be a lot closer for your average joe to have a chance. Then while you continue to bump up the winners of those "casual tournaments" your playerbase for "Tier Of Champions" expands while still giving the casuals hope to win one.
Im agree with xurnt on this one. Also can we get xurnt to cover these tournaments. He's the only one that constantly post replays on both twitch and youtube. I believe he brings greatest exposure to general audiences.
| Mage (StarTale) had set up back in the day. This system worked amazing. Instead of doing tournaments its more of a league. We can set up a point system for wins and losses and have a section of the forums to where tiers can report wins/losses. This way people dont all have to be on at the same time which should work much better than hosting a tournament for 1 day. Startale would be a great person to get information from because his league worked and worked well. |
Startale was telling me about that.
Yeah that would be great it would also make it easier for players to play since everyone lives on different time zones and what not.
Probably only good for tier 1-2 thou. I'm not sure the lower tiers would ever take it seriously.
Do you remember the link to the league.
Definitely talking about mages league. I remember he named them Heavyweight, welterweight, featherweight etc instead of using Tier 1, tier 2, tier 3. I will ask him the next time i see him if he has the link.
It's perfectly fine for tier 2s to play in a tier 1 tournament provided that there is room. I can assure you they all want play with the tier 1s.
The main issue here is preventing tier 1s from playing in tier 2 tournaments. And preventing tier 1s and tier 2s from playing in tier 3 and bellow tournaments.
Definitely talking about mages league. I remember he named them Heavyweight, welterweight, featherweight etc instead of using Tier 1, tier 2, tier 3. I will ask him the next time i see him if he has the link.
Ok pls show us the link.
Whatever here the proof we were using deadline in UWC.
[url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,877.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,877.0.html[/url])
Definitely talking about mages league. I remember he named them Heavyweight, welterweight, featherweight etc instead of using Tier 1, tier 2, tier 3. I will ask him the next time i see him if he has the link.
Ok pls show us the link.
Whatever here the proof we were using deadline in UWC.
[url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,877.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,877.0.html[/url])
[url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=225498&sid=f274cd05e3dfb3d32fb54b2764f7cba3[/url] ([url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=225498&sid=f274cd05e3dfb3d32fb54b2764f7cba3[/url])
The probleme was just about you, you were too selfish to let your weak tournament aside and help me in this bigger and funnier project.
The probleme was just about you, you were too selfish to let your weak tournament aside and help me in this bigger and funnier project.
He helped you make your tournaments when he gave you your own sub-forum you retard
Its not even about if its too much work. I'm very skeptical as to how many players would actually take an active roll in participating in something like this or reporting their wins and what not.
How about something like a month long tournament? For instance we could begin it on the 1st Sunday of every month. You guys can have 1 week to face your respective opponents. Here is an example of how the bracket would look,
[url]http://challonge.com/Tier1ro1[/url] ([url]http://challonge.com/Tier1ro1[/url])
After 1 week anyone that doesn't finish playing there opponent will either be moved up or auto Dq'ed
Forget to ignore you on this account,
Its not even about if its too much work. I'm very skeptical as to how many players would actually take an active roll in participating in something like this or reporting their wins and what not.
How about something like a month long tournament? For instance we could begin it on the 1st Sunday of every month. You guys can have 1 week to face your respective opponents. Here is an example of how the bracket would look,
[url]http://challonge.com/Tier1ro1[/url] ([url]http://challonge.com/Tier1ro1[/url])
After 1 week anyone that doesn't finish playing there opponent will either be moved up or auto Dq'ed
Its not even about if its too much work. I'm very skeptical as to how many players would actually take an active roll in participating in something like this or reporting their wins and what not.
How about something like a month long tournament? For instance we could begin it on the 1st Sunday of every month. You guys can have 1 week to face your respective opponents. Here is an example of how the bracket would look,
[url]http://challonge.com/Tier1ro1[/url] ([url]http://challonge.com/Tier1ro1[/url])
After 1 week anyone that doesn't finish playing there opponent will either be moved up or auto Dq'ed
Read the bold text EQ
U guys will never make "fair" tier list since we are playing most gow when this map is rlly inbalance.
In my opinion we should make tournaments with new maps, Tora can use generate map, it should be fair map [url]http://www.warmaker.net[/url] ([url]http://www.warmaker.net[/url]) and he will give to players 10 min before tour start to check map with editor
Here is where and how I believe Tiers should look:
This causes a bottleneck for a player to have to work harder to advance to the next tier
Tier 1:
Shotgun
Swazgier
Jesk
Viruz
00Steve
Startale
Alf
00Joe
Braviet
Foonat
Tier 2:
Knitterhemd
Player
00Logan
00Tony
Medivh
Yamon
Sepi
Mystical
Poscow
PB
Equinox
Teaboy
Tyrus
Tabac[Man]
JayHawkerz
Tier 3:
Donger
Koorb
SPB
Sparkz102
Ogremage
Jordan
Youngsta
TK
Dugs
ESN
YWFN
Slacher
Jynx
Harrywangs
Angel~Fire
$lick
Gleip~
Blid
Allstar
Max.X.OverKill
Let me know what you think, or should i say let the flaming begin!
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Good to see you too Nova. This list isnt anything set in stone and actually the more i think of it you would be a tier 2 player. I didnt know you had records like that vs those players.
Here is my list,
Tier1
00kyle,
u8t3io3p
braviet
Shotgun
Startale
Alf-Attack
BHC-Jesk
Medivh
Viruz
00Joe
00Logan
Player
Knitterhemd
Sepi
00Steve
Tier2
tyrus
Yamon
Greenagenda
Mystical
Spb
ogremage
Mythical
-Koorb-
TWN-cancel
UNF0RG1VEN
Dugs[anz]
DoritoeFU
Allstar
$liCk
Ltfan
Tabac[Man]
Teaboy
^PaperBoy~SoL^
Ywfn
Sparkz102
afun use of tiers would be if you had 4 of them and then had a league where people formed teams of 1 person from each tier. tier 1 people could draft their teams. not sure theres enough activity for that these days but you could even do scoring in like a 2on2 series based on which tiered players were participating.
afun use of tiers would be if you had 4 of them and then had a league where people formed teams of 1 person from each tier. tier 1 people could draft their teams. not sure theres enough activity for that these days but you could even do scoring in like a 2on2 series based on which tiered players were participating.
Anyway, Never any of you in this staff will be able to do a league like that regulary, you way TOO FUCKING LAZY for that.
Rather than pre-defining tiers, why dont you have tournaments with a point system to initially define the tiers. Then you can have tourney based tiers after that where people will migrate to and from tiers depending on performance. If being in a tier is really important to players, they will play the tourneys.
I ofc give zero fucks. I only play 3 on 2s and comp stomps with Sandman00.
Also how exactly do determine points like that. For instance if swagier and jesk played each other and went 5-4 for swag. Would swag only get 1 point?
Essentially is it that the one who plays the most wins?
PB - taking the time to put in your bias and vendetta against me at every opportunity. The player you described isn't me - it's a combination of a few of the players you mentioned prior to me. Also, you listed a few newbs in your first list. Including Braviet, nerdy's side kick, and Nail.
Yeah tiers can be tricky depending on how active or motivated people are or if we’re referring to 1on1 or actual team play… I’m rating people on the highest level i’ve seen them play at, even though some may have fallen off or got real active when this game became essentially dead. I weigh team players higher than 1on1 play and deducted a little for players who’s only strat is pretty much fast lust.
Tier 1-
NeRzyMaN - Babe Ruth of war2, I would name my 1st born Nerzy if I could find a girl who would sleep with me -
Scrubbo- Tim Duncan of war2, very systematic and gave me some great completion through out the years with flashes of some great creativity! Micky Mantle
Jitter - Not your typical Asian, he’s can be a hilarious shit talker, he’s 1 of the best team mates i’ve ever had. Also, could own Tyrus with baby in hand! I could do pretty much any strat and he was smart enough to adapt even when I did something stupid. Scottie Pippen! very well rounded.
Ash- Great creative team player and awesome shit talker- Pistol Pete meets Rasheed Wallace!
Shotgun - Great at 1on1 and late game for team play, although he’s more likely to call me a }{orse faced faggot than actually adapt his strategy to mine lol - Pete Sampras of war2! Past his prime but he can still school ne1
Viruz- The man who needs no introduction, a modern wrecking machine. He’s so good at 1’st and so reliant on his freakish speed he sometimes throws common sense out the window and tries to rely solely on war2 athleticism.
Hybrid of Westbrook and Mike TYson - Will map and drop 81 if you Fuck up
Kanuks- Arthur was a cool dude but we spent most r time talking shit lol. was decent on F too!
Tracy Mcgrady - had a few good years then vanished into obscurity
Nalzyman- For his team play he knew how to keep opponents busy and wasting rez while letting your ally takes the map, He was a master as invading a town with 5 peons and shutting down duals. I remember one time when he 0 bagged shotgun twice in a row. wasn’t uncommon for him to go minutes with out mining while winning lol… He is the master of towers -
Robert Horry - His stats don’t say MVP but whoever on his team can guarantee victory if you play smart.
Braviet- Guys like him are part of the reason I kept playing this game, he wasn’t afraid to try suicide strats and always manages to innovate and keep you on your toes! Overall, a good sport too! for an Asian that is - Jacky Chan of war2 but when he’s }{ot the boy’s Linsanity
^Nail~SoL^- The only guy I ever trained that way able to surpass me, He was very creative with out neglecting basic mechanics. Absolute beast… Him vs Swift would be like Muhammad Ali vs George Foreman. Jordan vs Lebron in their primes, would be sick to see 1on1.
Lenny bias, died 2 young from a gun shot
**Swift - Obviously swift has an Aserrisk by his name, he should actually have multiple ******* but i’m not trying to develop carpel tunnel.
He’s a great 1on1 player but he doesn’t step out of the safe zone much(though he can he’ s just lazy). Always making the bare minimum to power and strike some soft target & power to lust and come on strong with a 1st wave. It’s effective but it’s also the most boring transition. Sure you can play survive for 10 mins or you can enjoy early and mid game. He takes it that seriously, when many of the top players have moved on or just play for fun. He’s still a beast to watch on F and 1on1 - he will never be remembered for team play but his 1’s are a gift to watch vs a good opponent. He’s the Barry bonds of war2 - Allen Iverson , plays in an easy era with mad help from Balco but still had mad hops. He's actually probably the 4th best i've seen on FFAs
Tier 2 -
Sc~Terror - Best FFA player ever-
Khb - Mackenrow- David Robinson
Nex-
Tony- took a 3on1 from 6! lol - Ken Griffy
Tabac - Worlds most polite war2 player and can get Jiggy with it - Tim Tebow
Dugs- Nalzy JR. but he can only go left, when u tower and hidden rax every game you become too predictiable, if he switched it up a little!
DICKS OUT FOR H ARAMBE!
Hotty- Creative ! Steph Curry with the POP BOY
Knitter
Pimster- Love how he would go all ogers and never DK, Arvitas Sabonnas
KgbAgent97- Under rated as shit, Dwayne Wade
Jesk
Jayhawkerz- Matt Barnes - Best known for stalking Nalzyman’s x GF
Dong3r
Poscow
Tyrus- some great performances but most his career he’s weird emo Johnny Manziel (also lost a retirement match to nalzyman, banished to Azkaban)
~Babypeon- Once slept with Ukpeon to make rent - Asian Anna korna Kova
Jungle
Valkrie** - Lance Armstrong, to this day he doesn't explicitly acknowledge his hacking, he alludes to it in obscure terms like admitting it to us some how makes it real - The day he was caught & KICKED the fuck of [24-7] by Pimster was probably the worst day of his life to this day. He makes me r0fl my Pants when the bad guy finally gets it! Isiah Thomas -Bill Lambeer
Kith-Kannin- Good play multiple maps well! Bo Jackson!
Azteca - possibly deported, PUIG
Lothar_zone - Top Human Player of an era (not all time) i’d say, knew how to really Mass knights and use healing and mages well - Wess Welker
ws- Warstar had some impressive late game - Tim Thomas - Ginobli
Yah`mon- Legend on Nwtr and Always brought it for team play - John Stockton
Tier 3 -
Startle - Has many tier 2 properties but can’t adapt well, too rigid in his understanding - Bipolarish , Charles Barkely when he’s being an Ass hole lol. =)
Prophecy- gives up too easily or he could be tier 2 - Paule Pierce in a wheel chair
Buzzbomb- Cal Ripken JR> Most games played in 3 months ever
AcidGangsta
Szwagier
Sparkz
Foonat
Tdawg
~Meat
Lothar
Tarquinnin
Watje
Guan-yu
yauyau
Steve
Viperblade
Krypt
DarkSol
Emo Faggots-
Koorb, Wulfgar, Htos, Mcwaldo , Ballsack
Honorable mentions for Oritentals
Fai
banana
OjPimpson
00Steve
The trolling is strong in claw, shotgun, and pb. Only startale and lux have made serious lists.who the fok are you anyway? I don't let random scrublords question my methods
The trolling is strong in claw, shotgun, and pb. Only startale and lux have made serious lists.who the fok are you anyway? I don't let random scrublords question my methods
The trolling is strong in claw, shotgun, and pb. Only startale and lux have made serious lists.who the fok are you anyway? I don't let random scrublords question my methods
Well I think we've gotten enough feed back on who belongs where. I'll draw up some official brackets either tonight or tomorrow night.
The trolling is strong in claw, shotgun, and pb. Only startale and lux have made serious lists.who the fok are you anyway? I don't let random scrublords question my methods
Im pretty sure benjamin is ganz the legend.